this isn't really in the same ballpark as barb damage, I think he was being facetious. Decently geared andariels rogues do like 300-400m a tick and they are live right now...and they aren't doing barb damage. Just shows how truly abysmal of a state sorc is in rn
@@Onabosslikeaboati play andy rogue and i get around 1B a tick if the boss is tanky enough to last it but on normal bosses (pit 101) its an avrg of 400M, my god this puncture rogue is strong asf and verry fun
@@bubblegumpop078 I swapped from sorc to andy rogue, and yeah it's extremely strong. I honestly never get to focus on damage numbers in pits above 125, but yeah when im farming 101 i see 400-450m ticks
I theory-cooked a very similar build but with a couple of changes. 1. FireBolt and FrostBolt Enchantments (so we apply bur and chill) and we have a ton of multiplicative damage to Burning/Chilled/Crowd-Controled 2. Tyrael's Might chest - to DR, Max Resistances, and some extra damage with every swing 3. Using this new Wildbolt Aspect (but don't know if it is working) - "Every 2s you pull in distant enemies" - so no need to use Teleport enchant and Raiment. What do you think?
1. I need to play around with arc lash more. I really don’t want firebolt over tp enchant its way more damage, I just needed the enemy grouping. Not frostbolt, I don’t spec into crowd control damage in this game. Bosses exist. 2. Tyraels was underwhelming 3. I will try the new chest pull aspect today, but from what I’ve heard it pulls like 1 enemy
@@Lurkin17 1. Yes, bosses exist but with ArcLash you stagger them quite quickly. 2. Sad news but in terms of DR it looks really good. 3. Yeah, it all depends on how good this works. If similar to Raiment's teleport pull then all should be fine. 4. They will nerf everything outside Barb - as always.
Thanks for being the Sorc whisperer, lol. Glad you know the mechanics as well as you do, to be able to come up with somethig. The only thing that's a downer is Arc Lash was the build for S3, for Gauntlet runs, and that's all I used. At least this Arc Lash is on steroids, lol.
@Lurkin17 For sure. We're in a really bad place. I really liked Arc Lash, this build seems really good. Loved your ending comment, what does Blizzard not do, nerf Barb. 🤣
Stuck w/ Rainment not being able to attack enemies; bug since open beta (not Rainment specific, just makes it easier to repro). Have never seen them acknowledge it.
Duuude. I' ve been waiting for this build since Ive seen the sword. Posting on reddit and comenting on sorcs streams and youtube to see if someone would test it (i play ps5 unfortunately). Thank you! I knew this sword would be cool with arc lash and it seemed like the most promising build to me
My biggest question would be: how did you get these two items (Helmet and Sword). I just can't farm them. The second thing is that they will nerf it to the ground so you play Barblo IV or you don't play at all.
Well if it really did the second part of the effect to increase resource cost, it should be mana draining enough to balance it otherwise it will be nerfed because it is too OP for basic skills
@AlanAshes I would say that it's not barb broken but blizzard clearly has a favoritism and when any of the other classes is able to compete in end game activities they get nerf to underperformed and not surpass the barbs performance. So far barb has been top every season, it's ridiculous that my barb can fortity in 1 hit for vastly more than the entirety of my sorceress HP pool , yet sorceress is stuck using only 2 enchantments same shit firebolt enchantment, boss damage trash and barriers get depleted in split second forcing sorceress players to strife for only one build with perfect roll gear to get perma flame shield so they won't die . We can all say blizzard does not play sorceress or blizzard team is stupid. Sorceress needs needs buff, needs 1 or 2 extra enchantment slot and extra ring slot to make it balanced with barb performance, same with druid , they can let druid put aspects on back throphys or put two aspects on two handed weapons for druid or something
Nice build. I have not found most of the gear to make it work. In fact none of the uniques so far. I have the pants that they give you. Kind of makes me feel ill that we have to hit for 32 million damage to be decent now. Hail the almighty power creep.
Hi mate my main concern are uniques having wide aspect range rolls like 100%-300%. I've never seen something like it in any ARPG I don't understand philosophy behind it and it makes no sens since GA's were introduced. So now when unique drops there will be zero dopamine no excitement because there is a big chance for shitty rolls. What makes H&S great is the fact that you are having chance for upgrade all the time any time u roll the dice and just imagine u already have this sword with 300% aspect on it and when you drop same item with 3 GA's with the lowest possible roll how that will make u feel... It's just insane how much rng there will be to get an upgrade.
Shard of Verathiel from diablo immortal that is twin sword and use by Leader of angel name Verathiel who fight against army of hell and sacrifice herself for shard seekers to escape diablo soul....and yeahh hope this item good in next update hahhaa lov it
I think its funny how they said they wanted to make less must use items and then cooked up the Lucion helm... like what build isnt going to try to squeeze that in. Same with the 1h sword for a lot of builds (ofc the Druid basic attack build will never compete). These items have way too much power on them.
No rasha. No 4 elements. Starless is 50%, needed the crit chance from starless. Needed crit chance and attack speed from legendary ring with adaptability. Didn’t need the cooldown reduction so Tal Rasha got booted
Lurkin, not sure you're aware but now in the PTR version... Under Options you can select the type of dmg numbers you want to see... You can literally just select crit dmg and overpower dmg 😊
@@Lurkin17 yeah ur right, just cooked something up, slightly different using hectic and oe with spark spawning CE. it actually works pretty good. even using the no def multi. Testing was very positive. Watch the baskenator(german dude if u cant follow it, hes hitting for 20m with aspect procc, and its not even close to optimized) youtube video, seems we really underestimated the aspect. and that is probably even better then Lash, since u can play it completely ranged. ua-cam.com/video/OkoWgGQDmLo/v-deo.html
I don't expect the pants/Lucion bug combo to make it into the game. the combo would work in the PTR tho. but without the bug you don't want the axial pants. you want arc lash rank pants. Axial has a value of 22,000 to proc, it's literally a single second of an andariels proc. they are garbage
Pls make a Andariels chainlightning Build… its strong like hell on the Rouge and its based on lucky hits so it will work with chainligthning.. 🙏 I mean to farm higher Pits easy …
@Lurkin17 True. I still think it's hilarious that the helm has the most absurd resource cost reduction stat ever ... that it has one at all actually 😆. If this lands on the live server I'll loose all my faith in Blizzard 😅
seems like this will be s5 only viable sorc build, i dont get blizzards fetish with basic attacks, all these basic attack x%s in the hundreds make other builds meaningless in comparison, it just doesnt fit sorc thematically
Um it’s not bugged to my knowledge besides the interaction between axial and lucion. I am not wearing axials. It’s overtuned. I normally hit for 2-3M with arc lash. Now I have 50% starless. 4.5M. 125% helm. 10M. Then 180% sword. 28M. Math checks out chief. That’s not bugged. It’s highly tuned
@@Lurkin17 oh my bad when I read “cooking” in all caps, I assumed you were doing higher DPS with it. Sounds like ur build might actually make it out of the PTR
Helmet and sword will 100% be nerfed before making it to live
13:11 Nvm
It's going to be nerf to oblivion and it might as well be a basic legendary unique
When they nerf it , it's going to be a regular basic unique I guaranteed it
I hope this stays this way
Both need their %'s cut by a minimum of half. Lucion should only work with CORE skills or NON basic if they want to try and make ults relevant.
Saying things like “Damage as good as a barb” means it’s going to get nerfed. Blizzard hates us.
this isn't really in the same ballpark as barb damage, I think he was being facetious. Decently geared andariels rogues do like 300-400m a tick and they are live right now...and they aren't doing barb damage. Just shows how truly abysmal of a state sorc is in rn
They can't nerf this build without nerfing Barb as well because Barb uses the same items ;)
It’s not barb damage. It was more out of sarcasm. But it’s approaching somewhat respectable damage if we can slap around for 50M hits.
@@Onabosslikeaboati play andy rogue and i get around 1B a tick if the boss is tanky enough to last it but on normal bosses (pit 101) its an avrg of 400M, my god this puncture rogue is strong asf and verry fun
@@bubblegumpop078 I swapped from sorc to andy rogue, and yeah it's extremely strong. I honestly never get to focus on damage numbers in pits above 125, but yeah when im farming 101 i see 400-450m ticks
The sad thing is that this is still not even close to whirlwind walking through in 70 seconds.
🥲
I theory-cooked a very similar build but with a couple of changes.
1. FireBolt and FrostBolt Enchantments (so we apply bur and chill) and we have a ton of multiplicative damage to Burning/Chilled/Crowd-Controled
2. Tyrael's Might chest - to DR, Max Resistances, and some extra damage with every swing
3. Using this new Wildbolt Aspect (but don't know if it is working) - "Every 2s you pull in distant enemies" - so no need to use Teleport enchant and Raiment.
What do you think?
1. I need to play around with arc lash more. I really don’t want firebolt over tp enchant its way more damage, I just needed the enemy grouping. Not frostbolt, I don’t spec into crowd control damage in this game. Bosses exist.
2. Tyraels was underwhelming
3. I will try the new chest pull aspect today, but from what I’ve heard it pulls like 1 enemy
@@Lurkin17 1. Yes, bosses exist but with ArcLash you stagger them quite quickly.
2. Sad news but in terms of DR it looks really good.
3. Yeah, it all depends on how good this works. If similar to Raiment's teleport pull then all should be fine.
4. They will nerf everything outside Barb - as always.
Thanks for being the Sorc whisperer, lol. Glad you know the mechanics as well as you do, to be able to come up with somethig. The only thing that's a downer is Arc Lash was the build for S3, for Gauntlet runs, and that's all I used. At least this Arc Lash is on steroids, lol.
I feel that. I’ll take what I can get right now
@Lurkin17 For sure. We're in a really bad place. I really liked Arc Lash, this build seems really good. Loved your ending comment, what does Blizzard not do, nerf Barb. 🤣
Stuck w/ Rainment not being able to attack enemies; bug since open beta (not Rainment specific, just makes it easier to repro). Have never seen them acknowledge it.
yup its why I usually never use raiment, because it bothers me so much
Actually a video with the Crown of Lucion transmog activated! Thank you...
Duuude. I' ve been waiting for this build since Ive seen the sword. Posting on reddit and comenting on sorcs streams and youtube to see if someone would test it (i play ps5 unfortunately). Thank you! I knew this sword would be cool with arc lash and it seemed like the most promising build to me
Let’s hope it doesn’t get gutted. Its all we have
Up vote for barb ending commentary
barbablo
@@Lurkin17 can u make a frozen orb blizzard build for season 5 please
Barblo 4
Damn respect that you not using flame shield
I haven’t ran it the entire ptr. I’m liking my setup
@@Lurkin17how are you surviving 1shot mechs/high/lethal dmg situations?
My biggest question would be: how did you get these two items (Helmet and Sword). I just can't farm them.
The second thing is that they will nerf it to the ground so you play Barblo IV or you don't play at all.
Yo that helmet is not going to stay that way xD
Well if it really did the second part of the effect to increase resource cost, it should be mana draining enough to balance it otherwise it will be nerfed because it is too OP for basic skills
Now rob gonna take a screenshot and Will Say it's bugged.
ofc, barb isnt broken all seasons in a roll..
@AlanAshes I would say that it's not barb broken but blizzard clearly has a favoritism and when any of the other classes is able to compete in end game activities they get nerf to underperformed and not surpass the barbs performance.
So far barb has been top every season, it's ridiculous that my barb can fortity in 1 hit for vastly more than the entirety of my sorceress HP pool , yet sorceress is stuck using only 2 enchantments same shit firebolt enchantment, boss damage trash and barriers get depleted in split second forcing sorceress players to strife for only one build with perfect roll gear to get perma flame shield so they won't die .
We can all say blizzard does not play sorceress or blizzard team is stupid. Sorceress needs needs buff, needs 1 or 2 extra enchantment slot and extra ring slot to make it balanced with barb performance, same with druid , they can let druid put aspects on back throphys or put two aspects on two handed weapons for druid or something
i love that moment when you say "Blizzard doesn't nerf the barb"!
Nice build. I have not found most of the gear to make it work. In fact none of the uniques so far. I have the pants that they give you. Kind of makes me feel ill that we have to hit for 32 million damage to be decent now. Hail the almighty power creep.
the new pants arent very good. the damage value is too low. they are bugged right now and only good with lucion helm
This looks awesome. Very cool lightning fantasy here.
Can you combine those multipliers with Firebolt Enchantment and Aspect of Creeping Death?
maybe. i wasn't too keen on creeping death.
thanks for posting it, here is the kicker, barb bash can use the same unique and scale harder then sorc
I know they can, but we have some decent damage for once and I am happy
Omg wow. NO ONE knew about this. Thanks for sharing man.
Hi mate my main concern are uniques having wide aspect range rolls like 100%-300%. I've never seen something like it in any ARPG I don't understand philosophy behind it and it makes no sens since GA's were introduced. So now when unique drops there will be zero dopamine no excitement because there is a big chance for shitty rolls. What makes H&S great is the fact that you are having chance for upgrade all the time any time u roll the dice and just imagine u already have this sword with 300% aspect on it and when you drop same item with 3 GA's with the lowest possible roll how that will make u feel... It's just insane how much rng there will be to get an upgrade.
lotta work, lotta rng, for a seasonal game. shits wild
Shard of Verathiel from diablo immortal that is twin sword and use by Leader of angel name Verathiel who fight against army of hell and sacrifice herself for shard seekers to escape diablo soul....and yeahh hope this item good in next update hahhaa lov it
they are great items. the issue is barb can use them and just increase their damage the same as us and deal way more
You can filter out different damage types in settings now
I think its funny how they said they wanted to make less must use items and then cooked up the Lucion helm... like what build isnt going to try to squeeze that in. Same with the 1h sword for a lot of builds (ofc the Druid basic attack build will never compete). These items have way too much power on them.
@Lurkin, yessss so glad you tried this this looks fun :D
Does the new sword and the new basic attack aspect make it so it cost 100mana per basic attack? (25mana x4 with aspect?)
Sorry I meant 25mana + the 25% increase? Not x4 or doesn’t effect the basic skills 25 resource cost
i have no idea how the mana works with it. I just know i am keeping up with my mana in the PTR. will evaluate live
Where is your tal rasha and 4 element stacking?
No rasha. No 4 elements. Starless is 50%, needed the crit chance from starless. Needed crit chance and attack speed from legendary ring with adaptability. Didn’t need the cooldown reduction so Tal Rasha got booted
New helm > Dmg will probably go down to like half and core skills could get buffed in return
where drop crown of lucion??????
Hope for sorcs in s5! Ty king
we pray the sword and lucion make it to S5 in their current state. its our only hope
Lurkin, not sure you're aware but now in the PTR version... Under Options you can select the type of dmg numbers you want to see... You can literally just select crit dmg and overpower dmg 😊
i had normal ones on because i was testing paingorgers
@@Lurkin17 was this reply meant for someone else? 🤔
The ending pun tho, u win hahahahaha, wear whatever barbs can wear so it wont get nerfed
Definitely not barb dmg but it’s amazing for sorc lol, good stuff man. Hopefully it doesn’t get nerfed to the ground like frozen orb
I hope so too
can u do a pure LS build next, would like to see whats possible when optimized with that changed aspect:) thanks in advance.
pure LS? doesn't exist. you would run ball lightning with critical strike damage tempers, LS and ice blade enchant and take splintering
@@Lurkin17 yeah ur right, just cooked something up, slightly different using hectic and oe with spark spawning CE. it actually works pretty good. even using the no def multi. Testing was very positive. Watch the baskenator(german dude if u cant follow it, hes hitting for 20m with aspect procc, and its not even close to optimized) youtube video, seems we really underestimated the aspect. and that is probably even better then Lash, since u can play it completely ranged. ua-cam.com/video/OkoWgGQDmLo/v-deo.html
Hello, could you tell me where to farm this " Shard of Verathiel" please ?
Horde mode. Very low drop rate. The left 25 cost chest that drops an item. Helluva PTR
What about using paingorgers?
i tried pain gorg. damage didn't scale well
where are from all the conjurations ? i mean why so much conjurations spawns? from where?
6 ice blades and lightning spears from unstable currents
I am going to play this build. Seems very satisfying 😀
Use Wildbolt Aspect on a Legendary Chest maybe better than Raiment
i didnt even realize this existed. i will definintely try this so i can run firebolt ice blade. I hate raiment
does helmet -75% +125% mana cost make your 25mana basic cost ~15?
i have no idea what the helmet does with the mana exactly, all i know is the mana feels good so its fine
Oo!
Arclash can be quite fun!
Hm…. Now if we could add the vain lightning to it….
Yeah, good stuff. This one looks like it’s more possible to pass.
Build looks fun! Hoping they don’t nerf it into the ground.
The helm is bugged. It's going to be patched
they will nerf the helmet and pants combo for sorc but i think they will let it go with some major increase just not that much
Where were you lucky enough to get the Verathial Sword to drop? Farm?
horde. but a friend game it to me so i can test
Best not nerf. This is what we need
thanks for the build, but I still hope that my fractured winterglass + multi-headed hydra will be playable in S5
I'm running it with the new amulet for the crit and crit damage since I'm never below 50%
I have not gotten a good amulet so I haven’t been using it. I want the conj mastery ranks and UC temper anyway
Isnt Lucion bugged?
lucion doesn't seem bugged. its just overtuned. its bugged with AXIAL pants. thats the bug. the two together. i dont have the pants on
Is the build link updated?
yes. the planner is just scuffed so some items are missing, I made notes
This is about as effective as heartseeker rogue currently so that's good
So the pants wouldn’t work with this too?
I don't expect the pants/Lucion bug combo to make it into the game. the combo would work in the PTR tho. but without the bug you don't want the axial pants. you want arc lash rank pants. Axial has a value of 22,000 to proc, it's literally a single second of an andariels proc. they are garbage
Why is this not bugged?
I thought it's the helmet with the insane damage bug
with axial. not by itself
If this makes it to live then maybe im sold on season 5.
Why not put adaptability on neck so u always have 120x moonrise drops off
I’ll re read em. My brain is mush from this game. I think the moonrise damage is always active. It’s just the attack speed that waxes and wanes
IT looks like S5 will be all about lightning builds for Sorc. I wonder how much they nerfed Blizzard.
Pls make a Andariels chainlightning Build… its strong like hell on the Rouge and its based on lucky hits so it will work with chainligthning.. 🙏 I mean to farm higher Pits easy …
Yeah it’s ok. I actually have andariels in my previous cl video and the pants as a whole are underwhelming
@@Lurkin17Sounds like it‘s also not that strong 😢. Ok sounds like also no option for a real strong sorc again. 😢
It really is unfortunate that Sorc basically plays as a melee class all the time.
U know what, barb can also use these two uniques, and can have 3 more
That was the irony. We have base barb damage now before they even get these toys
No bugs is a bold claim 😅. The helm itself has at least one bug with the resource scaling and the sword is just a mess as well 🙈
Well damage bugs is my concern. I’ll always solve mana through conj mastery so that’s irrelevant. The damage checks out ish
@Lurkin17 True. I still think it's hilarious that the helm has the most absurd resource cost reduction stat ever ... that it has one at all actually 😆. If this lands on the live server I'll loose all my faith in Blizzard 😅
you can turnoff the basic numbers and just show crit have a look into settings
Looks like alot of fun but blizz wont let us have that when it goes live.
Can anyone help me with Lilith please?
Yeah the quadrillion damage makes it certain the helmet is gonna be nerfed to the ground.
i mean thats a bugged interaction between axial and lucion. the helmet is just overtuned. not bugged. that interaction is the bug.
I really hope this not another Basic Skills season .... Basic skill builds is so boring...and I hate they do the most damage then all other skills
its looking like it.
The helm is definitely bugged…
the helm is giving me 125% damage as stated. it's bugged with axials
@@Lurkin17 ahh okay thank you, I hope they don’t make any changes to it for season 5 then.
seems like this will be s5 only viable sorc build, i dont get blizzards fetish with basic attacks, all these basic attack x%s in the hundreds make other builds meaningless in comparison, it just doesnt fit sorc thematically
ok but there is another 99 lvls of PiT. :). But looks great
yeah go play a rogue or barb for that tbh
No bug but these two uniques are 100% getting nerf
Overtuned forsure
I always have to backtrack and kill every single mob
Yeah this ptr has been asscheeks
Dont show this to blizzard they gonna buff barbs and nerf sorcs again!
Sorc wil be nerf and back at 0 dmg (compare to barb) before season 5 start
Bro we will never be strong they nerf everything
I don't like balancing the class around the items - should be other way around IMHO.
Melee sorc ftw
Survival issues but that's fine...... softcore mindset for sure
Yerp. Softcore always for this game. I already waste my time playing it. Not losing characters to lag or one shot mechanics
I refuse to use arc lash, not ever again
good news. it works well with spark
thanks
13:16 its so sad to know that you gotta use basically a barb unique since we all know barb is not ever gonna be addressed in a correct way
“No bugs” is completely wrong lol what is the title… the new uniques are certainly bugged for all classes rn bud
Um it’s not bugged to my knowledge besides the interaction between axial and lucion. I am not wearing axials. It’s overtuned. I normally hit for 2-3M with arc lash. Now I have 50% starless. 4.5M. 125% helm. 10M. Then 180% sword. 28M. Math checks out chief. That’s not bugged. It’s highly tuned
@@Lurkin17 oh my bad when I read “cooking” in all caps, I assumed you were doing higher DPS with it. Sounds like ur build might actually make it out of the PTR
@Lurkin Did anyone tell you that you looked like Zelensky? :P
Nah but I use to get Elijah wood all the time on my teens. Harry Potter a lot as pre teen
oh cool more basic attacks snoooooze
Dude I know. It’s unfortunate
Ugh. I hate basic skill builds SOOOOOO MUCH.
These new uniques are garbage. They are WAY overtuned.
we all hate basic builds
trash build, no too good for pit high lvl or lilith uber
lol ok. go play a barb dude