DEAD EYES Bonus Video: The Band Of Brothers scene featuring Private Zielinski
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2020
- The much-discussed scene from episode 5 of Band Of Brothers featuring Adam Sims as Private Zielinski. Also starring Damian Lewis, Ron Livingston & Stephen McCole!
I'd love to see Ron Livingston and Damian Lewis work together again, their chemistry is just great.
Certainly Is!
An Office Space/Billions mash up.
I agree. Billionare meets Office Space? :P
Something I just realized, the dialogue in BoB is so natural. Aside from the dramatic speeches and monologues, it feels almost non-scripted. Really helps enhance the realization that these were real people with realistic bonds with each other and authentic reactions to real life occurrences (be it bland paperwork or shelling in your face).
Agree, compare this to "Pacific" or whatever the war in the Pacific version is called. Maybe its because I was younger when I saw Band of Brothers, or maybe its because I had read the books "Pacific" is loosely based on many moons ago but Pacific just came across as melodramatic and whiny. Felt it did a disservice to both the Marines and the Helmet For My Pillow author. I never got that with "Brothers"
@@dwhip49 I love Band of Brothers but for reasons I can't even explain, The Pacific is unwatchable to me, I mean I just don't care about any of the characters, there's no bond between character and viewer like there was in Band of Brothers.
@@mattnar3865 I think a lot of is the acting, and maybe the large source of info from the men. I liked Pacific, but it doesn't hold a candle to BoB. BoB.. Winters and a large number of the men were still alive for in person interviews, follow up, etc when BoB was produced. This was not the case for Pacific as I believe most of the men had passed by the time it was produced. The acting in BoB, was also way way better. You really "got to know" the men, etc... and I think many felt a more personal connection with them because of the superb acting.
David Schwimmer for example... I caught part of the Friends reunion.. and remember just having some disdain for Schwimmer. I wasn't a huge fan of Friends, but just watched it because it was on, but I just couldn't shake the feeling that Schwimmer was a douche. I realized I was probably associating him more with Sobel, who was just completely unlikable in BoB. I remember a few times seeing Frank Hughes as a guest on Law and Order, and my first thought was always, "There's the guy who played Bill Guarnere".. had no idea what the actors name was until about 10min ago when I Google'd it.
That's when you know an actor really sold a character.
The main difference between Band of Brothers and The Pacific is the source material.
BoB was based on a single book that told the story of an entire unit from it's early days in training all the way to the end of the war. Even though it featured many different individuals, their stories were always told in the context of the unit.
On the other hand, there was no single "The Pacific" book to draw upon, and so there wasn't the same sense of connectedness between the stories being told. They had to use different sources and then find a way join them together into one television series.
@@OptimusWombat While true, I dont buy it as an explanation. I think Ken 0201 is closer to the mark. The Acting comes across as, well, Acting. And I put that at the directors door. Band of Brothers movie was an act of love for that generation and it shows. Pacific comes across as an exercise in accounting. BoB = $ therefore Pacific =+$. Since they made author of Helmet for My Pillow a main character there was no need to piece things together. The producers failed to invest themselves in the project and it comes across as a cash grab.
Whoever plays Zielinksi really steals the scene. His eyes are just so lively. Props to whoever made the casting decisions!
Just a hint of sarcasm 😅
hahaha
Hot coffee and bacon sandwich.. reminds me of that scene in Saving Private Ryan when we meet Upham
Rumor has it Nixon never got his bacon sandwich....which is a god damn shame if you ask me
Dude had to gulp his Vat69 alone
It's a shame
@@dhaawalshivhare2098 that bacon sandwich would’ve hit the spot after a good buzz going
Moose didn’t get his either, and Nixon never got his coffee. Zalinsky was a crappy orderly.
@@MrGruffteddybear little coffee...little whiskey. That bacon sandwich would have been fire! Fucking Zalinski
@@jefferyk5203 Well like Bob Sink said
'It's a crying ass shame.'
Does anyone else feel Zielinski has really lively eyes, or is it just me?
he will win the war in Ukraine for sure √
What does that even mean? Because he looks like a whipped dog, eyes-wise. Is that what people call "lively"?
Its sad to see an officer like Winters being promoted higher up the chain while all he wanted was to be the best front line leader.
Welcome to the world of almost everything. It's generally, but not in this case, called the Peter principle.
@@robertcolvin3182 As you said, this doesn't really apply here. The Peter principle refers to people, who are continiously promoted to the point, where they no longer have any competence or clue in their new position. Winters is not incompetent in being a high-ranking desk-job officer. He just doesn't like it very much. At least not at first, because he got used to it eventually, as the series shows.
I work in a company that is growing extremely fast, and has some turnover. This causes a lot of promotions. We put people in a team lead first to see if they fit, if it doesn't work out, there is an easy off ramp.
Those are the best type of Leaders
Freaking Jon Snow of WW2
It took me time to realize Nixon was in fact a great intelligence Officer. Gave the other officers a run down of the plan once Winters was able to pinpoint the exact location of the invasion with LT. Meehem using the compass. Then he was able to bring armor from Omaha to where Winters had just taken out a battery of German guns, in here he is pretty confident of the Intel on the Red Devils situation that tells Winters to ask LT.Moose when they get back about how the mission goes.. Nix was indeed a great friend and a true soldier.
He was so great he was demoted from the job.
That was because of his drinking
@@mikemorgan8895 oh, that makes it ok!
@@stevenobrien557 I didn’t say it makes it ok. He was demoted by his superiors for drinking too much. Never said that was ok.
@@mikemorgan8895 you said that as a rebuttal as though he was not bad at his job.
Legend has it Zielinski is still looking for that bacon sandwich.
Now that's what I call a pair of not dead eyes!
Best mini series ever. My dad was a WWII vet I'm glad he lived long enough to watch it.
Aww man, he really does care about them a whole bunch
Look at how alive his eyes were
Idk why, but that bacon sandwich sound so good in the context of the show.
Sounds good right now
Those eyes really tell a story.
The sharpness, curtness and thinly disguised sarcastic jibes of the dialogue, which would have seemed like mutual disrespect among these men in other circumstances, serves to bring out that they were about to cross into the jaws of death on the far side of the river Rhine and they all knew it. Their dialogue was a way of avoiding 'talking about it'.
Excellent series this was.
Can’t believe one of the actors is Scottish! Excellent American accent.
Dude, Damien Lewis didnt lose his accent for Billions till he left US
Joe Loebggot was played by a Scot
@@callumrae5769 Now that was an amazing acting job. He sounded authentic.
Most of the actors were British
The person who plays winters is British
I have had bacon, I have had sandwiches. But I have never thought of having a bacon sandwich.
Great history lesson.
His eyes don’t look dead at all. Connor Radliff brought me here
beautiful winters
I personally think that is one of the best scenes in band of brothers, imagine knowing that you are sending men to their death, I couldn’t do it
My dad missed it by one year. I am so certain that he would have been pleased to see it. He ended up quite near where the 501st did, doing occupation duty in Austria. May have even crossed paths with some of those men.
Winter's response to the upcoming kickoff of Operation Pegasus reminds me of the old retired Fire Horses rising their ears and snorting in expectation when they heard the alarm bell, expectedly awaiting the harness team to come running toward them.
Waiting for someone to add the dialogue recorded in the podcast to the original video..
Thank you for your service. 🤷♂️
A bacon sammich, some black coffee and a shot of whiskey for desert. Sounds like supper.
2:16 is no time to make a proper bacon sandwich
not toasted no problem.
legend has it that Zielinski inspired Simon & Garfunkel's 'Bright Eyes' song
the actor Tom Hanks referred to as "dead eyes" was Connor Ratliff, the actor here playing Zielinski is Adam Sims.
I'm just now suspecting after a decade that the coffee order was real but the bacon sandwich was a joke (as everyone knew there was no bacon available).
I don't know, there were generally better supplies for the officers than for the enlisted men, so bread and bacon would not be that uncommon.
Spam!
2 decades!
Truly, subtlety is lost on some.
"Get lost for a few minutes, Private, the officers don't want you around."
Some folks never get the hints.
It wasn't for him it was for winters. He was being a friend.
Now I want a bacon sandwich. . .
The orderly never made the coffee for Captain Nixon.
Never got the bacon sandwiches for Moose or Nixon either.
@@MrGruffteddybear Lol...that's right.
damn i wonder why Axelrod acts that way in billions he's been through ww2
Yeah. I can remember when I was in High School Jr. ROTC and got promoted to Staff. I'd been a Platoon commander before that - working with the younger kids every day trying to teach them the ropes - then they took my Platoon Away From Me ...
There was nothing to do on Staff in a High School Jr. ROTC unit. NOTHING. Absolutely ... nothing ...
But - it gave the guy who came after me in commanding the Platoon - something real to do and a chance to learn something. I'd had my turn. I couldn't begrudge him that - but - I missed having something real to do.
Of course - for Staff Officers in the Real Military - there is A LOT for them to do on Staff. Staff Officers are on at least the Battalion Level - below that you have Companies and Platoons - and the Headquarters for those units is pretty much the CO, XO and a few other people. With a thousand people to look after on the Battalion Level - there is all kinds of stuff that needs to be done to see that they get fed, have the equipment they need and detailed plans on what the individual parts of the Battalion are going to do.
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True dead eyes example
Case in Point: Captain Winters
A natural combat leader shifted over to the role of executive officer, AKA deskwork
They didn't wait for their sandwich
Fully understand his thoughts, was elite forces nco in the field, sometimes intelligence can be off, was deployed post 2000s
Damn, now I want a sandwich too
I got a sudden craving for a bacon sandwich!
This is what a lot of modern cinema is missing. Portays of professionell grown ups who do thier job even though they don't like it. Could it had been more subtly written? Maybe. But I just can't stand all those supposedly "experienced leaders" (Like Galadriel in Rings of Power or basically all the characters in Casa del Plata, etc.) who behave like 16 year olds as soon something doesn't sit right with them. It's such a vital skill to have and many people do that in the real world, but still Hollywood shows them griefing, shouting, simply being childish if the world doesn't treat them they're supposed to be treated. Winters would have all the excuses to be bad at his job, which he hates, but because he's a responsible grown up, he let's people correct him, even taunt him, puts his head down and gives it his all. Refreshing to see and an actual role model!
Connor,your Dad is right.
I agree!
I agree!
my dad? Dude it was always my younger brother calling me a deadeye nonhuman piece of shit.
Came here to see if anyone else thinks this. Guy absolutely has to be much shorter for this to work.
Zeilinsky went to go get a coffee for Nix but he was gone by the time he got back with the coffee.
Subtlety is lost on some.
The actors became soldiers. I became a soldier (E6, O5) for 20 years. Maybe I was an actor too.
Was this scene removed? I don’t remember seeing this.
it's from crossroads around the half-way point
It's Ross Perot!
Poor Richard....worried sick about his boys.
:( Especially after the sh¡tshow that was Market Garden.
What the hell are people talking about with Zielinski's "lively eyes"? I have no Idea what everyone is talking about, could not find anything eye related about the actor Adam Sims either, what's this joke everyone seems to know about?
I always thought that Nixon was a little hard on Winters. It wasn't Winters fault that he was where he was at.
I don’t see it that way. They were friends and the majority was just teasing. When he got on him for micro-managing that was a good thing as it was no longer his job.
And, remember, he hires Winters for a lifetime job right after the war. He knew just what he was getting.
What? They were best friends. Probably should re watch it
That is just two great friends being real with each other. I'd expect my very best friend to act the same way around me.
Am I the only one wants to know whether Nixon eventually had encountered the bacon sandwich?
Rumour has it they give secret accent lessons instead of math and science at Eaton, to give these guys a flying start once they get jobs as actors...
Wait. Was that his only scene? There was more right?
I had no idea what scene the title was referring to. If you called it "The bacon sandwich scene", I (and I believe most fans of the show) would have known right away.
He handled it pretty well but ya can tell Winters hated moving up in ranks like that...felt like he was losing his men in a way not bring in the trenches and out in the field as much. What hated about military, lot of time they don't care if ya want the promotion of not they give it to ya anyway.
Obligatory I hear Private Zielinski is still trying to find a black coffee no sugar and a bacon sandwich to this day.
Private zielinski still alive? How old is he?
Hey there
Sergeant John D. Zelinski (HQ Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th PIR) survived the war and passed away on March 14, 1980.
@@jamesdarnell8568 that sounds too young.
And thus “if you come across any bacon sandwiches do the same” became a nice way of telling someone to kiss off
That's not what Nixon was saying. What he was saying was, "Of course, I'll do that, Dick, relax, and let Moose and I do our jobs."
They'd been through combat together, and Winters was, by virtue of office, Nixon's superior officer (Battalion XO). They were also friends - Nixon wasn't being churlish at all, he was telling the XO to let people have some breathing room, overly close supervision is detrimental to success.
@@JESL_TheOnlyOne I concur but we are talking of two different comments. I have been a Bn S3 and XO and after BoB came out my buddies and I adopted the "bacon sandwich" as meaning, "im busy doing my job but I'll get to your request eventually", "Must be nice in the rear with life's little luxuries" or usually just "kiss off and let me do my job"
@Kevin Holeman I'm just analyzing dialogue. The corporal knew the score. He probably went for a smoke.
later on Zielinski comes back with coffee and bacon sandwiches.
So they went for a guy so small he likely would never have made it as an airborne soldier.
And when Zielinski comes back into the room he hasn’t even brought the coffee!
This was my first podcast I’ve ever listened to and the bar is too high now, I can’t listen to any other podcast because nothing will be as good as Dead Eyes.
Now I want to know if the bacon sandwich ever turned up?
Listen to the post-credits scene in episode 20 of the Dead Eyes podcast and you might find the answers you are seeking... 💀👁👁
You know what I think it was probably the height thing
Did he ever get his bacon sandwich? we all wanna know.
Yo not cool man, you don't give an Aide a request and not be there for its delivery.
Band of Brothers was so good. They did something weird in the Pacific. Battle scenes were amazing in the Pacific, but too much fluff too.
Freaking Jon Snow of WW2
Where's the bacon sandwich? I want a bacon sandwich dammit!
It’s odd that the casting notice said “slightly overweight” and this guy is rail thin. He looks kinda like half Adam Goldley and half Michael Jeter
Did they ever get their bacon sandwiches?
Unknown! I hope they got their bacon sandwiches but the truth of it has been lost to History, I'm afraid...
@@deadeyespodcast5911 Tomb of the Unknown Bacon Sandwich.
Why was this scene much-discussed?
Google "dead eyes podcast"
@@connorratliff Oh, derp, I guess you're right -- it's much-discussed there. I thought they meant in general amongst BoB fans and I was like, I don't even remember this scene on my first watchthrough.
@@vickenator Yeah, I am not sure this scene has EVER been discussed in any other context, anywhere! 💀👁👁
@@connorratliff Well, shit. My apologies, sir. Now I must go subscribe to your podcast. I hadn't heard of it until this popped up in my recommendations after a lengthy BoB YT bingefest. Might I comment, and you likely already touched upon this so I hope I'm repeating the obvious, that having 'dead eyes' in a wartime scenario seems like it would be a hearty touch of realism considering the thousand-yard stare and all. Plus, you look like Eion Bailey's brother, so Hanks obviously screwed the pooch on this one!
@@vickenator Truly, no apologies necessary! Thank you in advance for subscribing to the podcast!
In the movie; "A Bridge Too Far", that boat operation led by none other than Bob Redford and Ryan O'Neal was portrayed as a costly, bloody and ultimately unnecessary action.
All those guys rowed little canvas boats across the Rhine and got picked off by German artillery, snipers and machine guns . . just the mere fact that those stupid canvas boats didn't sink when shoved in the water is incredible enough.
Half of them died, as eloquently described by Redford when trying to get the British to move their collective ass.
Ultimately making the entire sacrifice a tragedy.
It’s not the same operation. The one a A Bridge Too Far is about the 82nd crossing a river when the Allies had the initiative at the beginning of Market Garden, this one is about Operation Pegasus, a rescue mission trying to evacuate around 130 people, most of them British paratroopers. It was done during the night, with no combat and no casualties and was a success
@@FranciscoOyola94 Very well.
Be good to run into a bacon sandwich.
WTF? Characters Description went from: Slightly Over Weight Private to Anorexic Malnourished Gollum Type...
Leader ship delegation and shit
Zelensky the orderly.
Click bait crap
We got your click
@@connorratliff no shit sherlock
@@scrappydoo7887 and now you are fully engaged, congrats scrappy and thank you so much for these clicks
What were you expecting?
Dick Winters. A leader a Hero.
But what about those TPS reports Nix?