Starbreeze Nerfed Our Payday 3 Weapons Without Telling Us

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  • Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
  • DLC weapons for Payday with majorly nerfed in the last update, and nobody knew. We're pretty unhappy.
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  • @gilby_6543
    @gilby_6543 Місяць тому +16

    Starbreeze attempting the 'mention every change in the patch notes challenge'. They've been failing since at least update 240 for Payday 2

  • @Bonelord69
    @Bonelord69 Місяць тому +25

    Its 2024 and devs still think that they can stealth nerf anything without people noticing. In a post Smash 4 era, people have proven to be professional digital archeologists without fail.

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  Місяць тому +3

      I don't get it. It isn't doing anybody any favors

  • @PeaseMakerYT
    @PeaseMakerYT Місяць тому +14

    Tbh this was probably more of a fix, as since release these mag mods had wonky pickup rates. Still wish it was a visable stat/patchnotes would show more changes.

    • @TMSWizard
      @TMSWizard Місяць тому

      There are spreadsheets/data that have been posted over on Reddit and other forums about pick up rates. It's a consistent bullet amount but it's different per weapon. Hence the outrage for the sneaky nerf

  • @sprin02
    @sprin02 Місяць тому +12

    They can pull up the scummy strat to drop a DLC weapon pack and after updates gets shadow nerfed.
    I expect the LMG is to get overdhadowed by DLC weapon knowing that they will drop at the same time.
    The ignite animations which arent ingame are in the game files. I dont understand how things are delivered because the animation is clesrly finished even I tested it.
    I feel like shit daranining but i know it will keep informed.
    I have problem with modifiers that half of it doesnt feel like well thought such as the hostage one because it forces you to bring manipulayor skills or the AP that makes fortitude a must have.

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  Місяць тому

      It was the same cycle in 2014-2017 Payday 2 where they'd release DLC that was great and then nerf it a few weeks later. It was gross there too but at least people knew it happened

  • @lizardhero
    @lizardhero Місяць тому +7

    I noticed the war wasn't holding up well on cook off, honestly kinda felt like the damage was nerfed too but that might just be due to the cutting shot nerf.

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  Місяць тому +1

      That appears to be it. From what we can tell the only nerfs were for the ammo types

  • @kriegthepsycko5587
    @kriegthepsycko5587 Місяць тому +6

    At this point i feel like having paid weapons is a terrible idea. if at any point one of these weapons get a change or comes out too strong or too weak, it's gonna cause a shit storm, and rightfully so. Why the hell are we locking any sort of gameplay effecting mechanics behind a paywall? Heists and cosmetics i get, but anything else will just cause this problem to happen again and again.

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  Місяць тому +1

      I'm not inherently opposed to paid or DLC weapons. They just need to be up front about changes and why. I think the best way to do weapon DLC is have them be side-grades and not just straight up better than the defaults, though

  • @skippi99r32
    @skippi99r32 Місяць тому

    I remember someone telling me about this before the update, maybe a month ago

  • @xthijsbos6811
    @xthijsbos6811 Місяць тому +10

    They just nerfed the ammo pick up rate

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  Місяць тому +8

      That's correct. The issue is that these weapons are now borderline un-useable, and that nobody was told. There's a right way and a wrong way to nerf things and this one was bungled

    • @user-ip2zj9jv8u
      @user-ip2zj9jv8u Місяць тому

      I noticed I was running out of ammo a lot more often, I guess I’m glad they didn’t nerf the weapon itself but it still makes the weapons much less sustainable

    • @xthijsbos6811
      @xthijsbos6811 Місяць тому

      @@user-ip2zj9jv8u yes its very annoying now

    • @xthijsbos6811
      @xthijsbos6811 Місяць тому

      @@RustyChains yea 🥲

    • @TheKknowley
      @TheKknowley Місяць тому +1

      @@RustyChains I'm not sure I agree they're now borderline un-useable. I'm not for the changes particularly, but all 3 weapons are still solid. I feel like this is the sort of situation where we as partners should bring it up highlighting it as an issue, not drive speculation on the purpose of shadow nerfs.

  • @Amokeus
    @Amokeus Місяць тому +2

    Justice for my WAR!

  • @Jebbydafry
    @Jebbydafry Місяць тому +1

    They need to add the judge shotgun my favorite gun in payday 2 and big bank it would be nice

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  Місяць тому

      Both would be fantastic to have

  • @tomt55
    @tomt55 Місяць тому

    I definitely noticed this nerf on the paid auto shotgun. I was playing on Cook-Off and I was unable to keep using my auto shotgun as a primary, as ammo was not sustainable. I found myself being forced to switch to my secondary much more and scampering around to try pick up ammo. And I have the ammo funnel skill selected. Its super noticeable. For Starbreeze not to tell us about this is lame and unacceptable. So the skill to recover ammo automatically on this skill line is now useless? Super unhappy about this...

  • @cookiedou3
    @cookiedou3 Місяць тому

    It's disappointing just how often Starbreeze can really do "one step forward, 2 steps backwards".

  • @Notor01
    @Notor01 Місяць тому

    You gotta use the scar an one tap heavy heads

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  Місяць тому +1

      I'd prefer options than just use the Scar. The War-45 was fun, I have an entire build devoted to the FSA-12. Both are less viable now

    • @Notor01
      @Notor01 Місяць тому

      @@RustyChains I know I was rocking the ak with no attachments one tapping with cutting edge now I'm stuck using the scar im with ya

  • @MilesFox92
    @MilesFox92 Місяць тому

    Even more reasons for people to stick back to SCAR and M308. Cool. Thanks Starbreeze. Thanks Mio.

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  Місяць тому +1

      Three games, three dominant reigns for the M308. Some things never change

  • @Only_FLUSHABLES_Get_You_clean
    @Only_FLUSHABLES_Get_You_clean Місяць тому

    I agree with you

  • @Virtualsinner
    @Virtualsinner Місяць тому

    why don't they test the weapons beforehand? They should have realized that you go minus against heavy units. I don't own the dlc but this still angers me

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  Місяць тому

      We have no reason to believe they don't test. The issue is that without this being in patch notes or acknowledged by Starbreeze, we don't know what their intent with these changes are. We can't see why or how they came to the conclusion that this was the best course of action

  • @aslightlydisappointingsala9481
    @aslightlydisappointingsala9481 Місяць тому

    I think payday 3 suffers from a similar issue as helldivers 2 in terms of balance, attempting to balance things that do not need balance and making the game LESS FUN to play. I know people are saying payday 3 is easier than ever but for non hardcore players or players without all the skill points and unlocks it feels genuinely hard to play. perks keep changing, unlocks dont work, progression is totally different, no gun feels fun to use, armor is still a chore, it feels impossible to keep up. I'm trying to give payday 3 another chance but they sure dont make it easy.

  • @stretchmtsa5106
    @stretchmtsa5106 Місяць тому

    This is why the game will die sooner rather than later. Every update the devs make is underwhelming at best while usually take multiple steps backwards in most other areas of the game. The devs are their own worst enemies in this and will be the leading reason for the game's demise.

  • @faaskee7071
    @faaskee7071 Місяць тому

    Use Ziv

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  Місяць тому

      For SMG's I prefer the Lycan preset or the War-45. I just don't particularly like the feel of the Ziv so I'm not thrilled about having to fall back on it

  • @PeterPiper777
    @PeterPiper777 Місяць тому

    Do people actually still play this game

  • @arbert....8654p
    @arbert....8654p Місяць тому +2

    No mater what you say my friend I can tell you one thing ...
    With this update 7
    Finally PD3 is back 💪🔥

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  Місяць тому +1

      As I said in my last video, I think Payday 3 is getting much better and this update was largely a good step in the right direction

  • @max_1733
    @max_1733 Місяць тому +2

    This is a pve game, why are you crying about nerfs?

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  Місяць тому +2

      Because PVE vs PVP doesn't particularly matter in this case. PVE games have even more room than PVP to experiment and allow for more fun with wacky builds. With these nerfs, the viability and fun of some of those options is deminished

    • @max_1733
      @max_1733 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@RustyChains I get it, but you can still play with this guns, it's just less ammo. I mean they could give info about changes, but they now have bigger problems in thier game, and it's not like COD update where it's important that you play meta guns.

  • @Alex85_u
    @Alex85_u Місяць тому

    Who cares? Game is garbadge

    • @Notor01
      @Notor01 Місяць тому +1

      Games fun play it

    • @kelesbeta
      @kelesbeta Місяць тому

      why are you on this video then nerd?

    • @mokey3067
      @mokey3067 Місяць тому +1

      @@Notor01complete downgrade in nearly every way when compared to payday2

    • @Notor01
      @Notor01 Місяць тому

      @@mokey3067 yeah definitely but it's still not bad hopefully one day it can be just as good as pd2

    • @RustyChains
      @RustyChains  Місяць тому +1

      I disagree! I've been very hard on this game but I really think it's been getting better. I don't even think its a "bad" game anymore, but this in particular is a major bump in the road.