Saab utilized the dkw design too, the early two strokes were a licensed dkw design. Saab also had the overhang issue, and never really solved it. It wasn’t much of an issue with the two design, but the cast iron ford motor wasn’t great for performance. Thanks for the informative video!
@@BSport320 very much looking forward to that! Very interesting stuff. But maybe you will need to up your visuals to become more mainstream. But content is on point. And I love, that videos are so short and right to the point.
Great video! I haven’t got my driver’s license yet so I’ve been playing around with electric RC cars. I bought an Audi Quattro rallye body, and when fitting it onto the chassis I also noticed that the front overhang was so long that I needed a much larger urethane piece to act as bumper, otherwise it would end up badly even just after one crash (my chassis was mid engined though). Never really went deeper to contemplate why. Thanks for your thorough analysis!!
Ngl it would look better if it had bmw overhang but dont think it would stand out as much. Subarus have the same problem with the gearbox and engine position and they understeer
What a great story and well told. I found the images useful, as well as the details on dimensions. A quick comment on why/ how DKW merged into Auto Union may help and I think you referred to BMW buying Porsche?
Thanks for the video, amazing information. I now amaze at how they succeeded in putting a diesel V10 in front of the front wheels in the Phæton. Incredible.
Thanks! Check out my video about the history of mid-engined cars to know how they got there: ua-cam.com/video/xrBPBlmSe-s/v-deo.html And yes, the Phaeton V10 was a Piech leaving gift😅
Great video, it aged like a good wine. I always had the impression that Citroën Traction Avant was the first mass produced front wheel drive but it came 3 years later. Now I am really disappointed by Audi, when you remember that their motto is "progress through technology". They have the aluminium platform for A8 and other fancy stuff, but still, this is bad, really bad.
Porsche started with the Panamera from scratch, so they didn't have limitations. They positioned the engine on the front axle like BMW and Mercedes instead of in front of it like Audi.
I think before the DKW became an Audi the Car and Fabric were sold to Volkswagen. They wanted the production capacity of the production plant. With that deal, they also got their hands on the car and engine and produced it under the name Audi. Fun fact is that Audi as brand would not exist without that car. They had just no other use for the brand at this time and it was just coincident that this happened. I think there was also some funny coincident with the engine design in the car. Something like one of the Porsche Family designed it for Mercedes and later with Audi it became the competition. I can`t remember that exactly. There are very interesting interviews with old bosses, designers, race drivers, and engineers on a Channel called "Die alte Schule" (the old School) which should work with auto-translation. They tell all that stories there. Could be a good source. ua-cam.com/users/Gelee-deluxevideos - Great Video again! Loved it!
Audi are great road cars but not good at all on tracks where you need to push the grip level to the limit of the tires. That's where Audi's nose heavy set up shows its ugly head. On the road, the A4 and higher still uses multi-link (double wishbone) suspension in front. The very good suspension combined with the extra weight makes makes the initial response from the steering really good. This is true even on slippery/snowy surface. You can easily pass the moose test as shown on the link here. ua-cam.com/video/ShabL8eXLoM/v-deo.html
My only gripe about Audi is that they absorbed NSU and left no trace of them... Every German car is an overcomplex upscale nightmare of expensive fixes and parts... How much unlike the wonderful little old NSU prinz!!!
Saab utilized the dkw design too, the early two strokes were a licensed dkw design. Saab also had the overhang issue, and never really solved it. It wasn’t much of an issue with the two design, but the cast iron ford motor wasn’t great for performance. Thanks for the informative video!
Post 9000 they went transverse right?
I could not believe, that your channel is this small, when I saw and heard the videos. Great stuff and I am glad, that I am here so soon.
Thank you very much! I just started and there is a lot more to come!
@@BSport320 very much looking forward to that! Very interesting stuff. But maybe you will need to up your visuals to become more mainstream. But content is on point. And I love, that videos are so short and right to the point.
@@7medo7 Thanks! I'm still improving :)
Thank you for this! I am a long time Audi fan and enjoyed the comprehensive history! Cheers!
Just stumbled upon this great video! It is especially fascinating to see all the connections to other cars and how far back the design originates.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video! I haven’t got my driver’s license yet so I’ve been playing around with electric RC cars. I bought an Audi Quattro rallye body, and when fitting it onto the chassis I also noticed that the front overhang was so long that I needed a much larger urethane piece to act as bumper, otherwise it would end up badly even just after one crash (my chassis was mid engined though). Never really went deeper to contemplate why. Thanks for your thorough analysis!!
That's a very good way of noticing it! RC cars create the best engineers!
Great video!
I am binge watching all of your auto tech videos now. You got a bright future ahead!
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
I can't imagine the Audi Sport Quattro with short front overhang, it would look weird
That's true, it's part of the identity already. Just weird to still see it on their EV's
@@BSport320 i never noticed that the modern audis front overhangs were too long, i guess they mastered the visual design
Ngl it would look better if it had bmw overhang but dont think it would stand out as much. Subarus have the same problem with the gearbox and engine position and they understeer
Love these longer form videos
This was a fantastic discovery for me personally. Great video and explanation.
Happy to hear! Thanks!
I had no idea! This is fascinating stuff.
What a great story and well told. I found the images useful, as well as the details on dimensions. A quick comment on why/ how DKW merged into Auto Union may help and I think you referred to BMW buying Porsche?
Thanks! I will create more videos about this prewar time and no, BMW did not buy Porsche
VW/Audi acquired Porsche. The story of how that happened is very interesting.
Thanks for the video, amazing information. I now amaze at how they succeeded in putting a diesel V10 in front of the front wheels in the Phæton. Incredible.
Thanks! Check out my video about the history of mid-engined cars to know how they got there: ua-cam.com/video/xrBPBlmSe-s/v-deo.html
And yes, the Phaeton V10 was a Piech leaving gift😅
1:31 and because of the thermosiphon circulation of cooling fluid.
Great video, it aged like a good wine. I always had the impression that Citroën Traction Avant was the first mass produced front wheel drive but it came 3 years later. Now I am really disappointed by Audi, when you remember that their motto is "progress through technology". They have the aluminium platform for A8 and other fancy stuff, but still, this is bad, really bad.
great vid
Ditto.
The Conti GT was the first car with the clutch and differential position swapped.
Brilliant!
The RS3 should have the inline 5 mounted longitudinally, like they used to.
Very nice story
How did the Panamera Package solve the Problem?
Porsche started with the Panamera from scratch, so they didn't have limitations. They positioned the engine on the front axle like BMW and Mercedes instead of in front of it like Audi.
Very cool!
I think before the DKW became an Audi the Car and Fabric were sold to Volkswagen. They wanted the production capacity of the production plant. With that deal, they also got their hands on the car and engine and produced it under the name Audi. Fun fact is that Audi as brand would not exist without that car. They had just no other use for the brand at this time and it was just coincident that this happened. I think there was also some funny coincident with the engine design in the car. Something like one of the Porsche Family designed it for Mercedes and later with Audi it became the competition. I can`t remember that exactly. There are very interesting interviews with old bosses, designers, race drivers, and engineers on a Channel called "Die alte Schule" (the old School) which should work with auto-translation. They tell all that stories there. Could be a good source. ua-cam.com/users/Gelee-deluxevideos - Great Video again! Loved it!
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Audi are great road cars but not good at all on tracks where you need to push the grip level to the limit of the tires. That's where Audi's nose heavy set up shows its ugly head.
On the road, the A4 and higher still uses multi-link (double wishbone) suspension in front. The very good suspension combined with the extra weight makes makes the initial response from the steering really good. This is true even on slippery/snowy surface. You can easily pass the moose test as shown on the link here. ua-cam.com/video/ShabL8eXLoM/v-deo.html
My only gripe about Audi is that they absorbed NSU and left no trace of them... Every German car is an overcomplex upscale nightmare of expensive fixes and parts... How much unlike the wonderful little old NSU prinz!!!
I did like your story! To bad car manufacturers are bending to political agenda.😥