As a Belgian I always love to see our MR80/AM80 design in Morocco. Unlike the Belgians, directly ordered with three carriages and with airconditioning!
As a Moroccan i like the Belgium MR80 but they will not stay for so long because Morocco will buy and make 168 new train's 18 of them are high speed trains and 12 are purchased from the French company Alstom TGV M
the thing an airplane does do is allow two distant locations to become one in terms of the ability of a person to work in both... this can be achieved with HSR but not really with medium speed trains (the distance you can go for a "daytrip" vs the distance you need a few days stay) - efficient cheap capsule-hotel style sleepers also help with this, if you can really get a good sleep and arrive somewhere in the early morning then return to the station late at night sleep on the train and be fresh for whatever you do at home, that really is better than an airplane in many ways. I used sleeper trains a lot in Asia, and am glad to see they are coming back into fashion in cross-European trips. really need that kind of service in our lives!
It’s true that sometimes the distance and slow trains make people choose for the plane, by having a girlfriend originally from Taiwan I fully understand and I choose to fly as well (although I’ve been to China in the past by train). I think it’s not always bad to fly, but we should really think before we board a plane. It’s like alcohol. I love a good glass of wine, but I don’t want to be drunk every weekend.
Please music volume down and your voice volume up. If I have good volume for music, I can't hear you. If I increase volume to hear your voice, then music is too loud.
on longer distance low traffic route, if you consider the impact of construction and sustaining a railway and the energy generation/loss for wiring in electric railways, an airplane can become comparatively sustainable (even though I still would prefer a train if I have the time for it)...
I did research on this and actually that’s nog quite true. On longer distance the airplane takes more weight for fuel so especially the first section of the route is using more energy. What is a thing for flying is that pollution on a higher altitude (this is already the case if you travel by car in the mountains) causes more environmental damage than on a lower altitude (on the other hand, less air resistance so flying high makes more sense eventually I guess). If planes will slow down a bit, this makes a BIG impact for long haul flights, this way ticket prices can be a bit lower and airlines can also make a bit more profit (only winners I guess). It’s an interesting topic for sure.
@@Trainviking longer distance is definitely more efficient than short haul flights, or at least should be unless you do something very wrong... what I meant is, there are even some shorter haul routes where a plane can be more efficient, in very specific circumstances... basically, to take a route which either only needs to take less then 50 people a day, or maybe a few hundred people a day but at a frequency meaning you need to carry only a couple of dozen people at a time if there is no sane way to make these two locations part of train lines linking other destinations, the ecological impact and cost to just connect two such communities would be prohibitive, however, an airplane can provide a link which due to still carrying a reasonable density of people for it's size, may operate with considerable efficiency (obviously, a bus might cost less, but the discomfort of that mode of transport should keep it out of the game, since it's not an equal category of travel modes as a train or airplane, and it still has a very significant ecological impact)
the really sustainable way to go however is Ferries... especially sailing ships. have you ever considered trying to find a way onto one of these? I know for a fact there are occasional ticketed sail-ships between Morocco and the UK, not sure about other parts of Europe. I mean, you would not be carbon zero, since you do Motor-sail for a short distance around the harbor, and possibly some part of the distance is on mixed power if the wind is lower, but that's still a quarter or less of the impact of an average train journey of thesame distance.
Agree ferries are in general a very sustainable way of transport. Not like a cruise (people often see this as the same thing). I noticed one ferry between the UK and France with real sailing ships, I love to take that as well. On ferries the number of pollution is pretty often very mixed, because they also take goods (trucks, etc) and that’s maybe the most important part for ferries you can get very different outcomes for polition. I actually want to make a kind of a documentary series about this where I go more in depth on this topic. I want to use examples on different parts of the world, like for example my girlfriend is from Taiwan. It’s a small country where east and west are divided by a big mountain range, so in a way I understand short haul flights on some routes. However there are many flights to small islands around Taiwan where you also find ferries. I like to know the differences for the environment on those routes. Another example, this is not a ferry but an ocean liner, between Europe and America there’s an ocean liner. Great experience however that one only takes passengers and the pollution is therefore twice per passenger compared to flying. It’s a very interesting topic where there’s not a lot of general knowledge about and you can’t say 1 on 1 that ferries are more sustainable either.
@@Trainviking a ferry would have to be very empty and be used very inefficiently to become worse than a plane on energy use, however, yes, these machines travel through a delicate biosphere that is the ocean environment, it has many ways to pollute in ways that are not directly propulsion related (or at least nothing to do with the energy consumption) and also ships can be rather old... they do not have thesame pollution control measures as we do on modern airplanes or cars(same can be true with some older trains in some parts of the world, though this to a lesser degree)
@@Trainviking Trans-Atlantic, I would actually recommend using a passenger carrying container ship, Maersk used to allow a few passengers on many of their ships... not a 5-star experience to be sure, but it is quicker and cheaper than taking a cruise-ship like ocean-liner if you want to try the route...
As a Belgian I always love to see our MR80/AM80 design in Morocco. Unlike the Belgians, directly ordered with three carriages and with airconditioning!
It’s a very special thing to see indeed.
Great video!
Great video, I knew about the Moroccan AM80's but never saw their interior
Actually when I was looking for videos like this, I couldn’t find any, while the internet is full of trip reports on the Al Atlas and Al Boraq trains.
Interesting 👍 thanks
I want to go back to Morocco and take more trains! Love the culture and food!
Excellent video thanks
Thank you :)
nice! I really wanted to take more trains in Morocco
Thank you, Morocco is very doable by train indeed.
wild seeing a Belgian train in Casablanca
As a Moroccan i like the Belgium MR80 but they will not stay for so long because Morocco will buy and make 168 new train's
18 of them are high speed trains and 12 are purchased from the French company Alstom TGV M
I also think it’s time to retire these trains to be honest.
@@Trainviking yep you right , but I hope they can take all MR80 models to the countryside to work
6:38 it's not MS80 but MR80M 😅
Oops , thanks for letting me know. It’s really a pity I can’t change this once a video has been uploaded.
@@Trainviking no problem
MS80!! 😮
Haha yes, I didn’t expect this either. So funny to see this somewhere you won’t expect it.
the thing an airplane does do is allow two distant locations to become one in terms of the ability of a person to work in both... this can be achieved with HSR but not really with medium speed trains (the distance you can go for a "daytrip" vs the distance you need a few days stay) - efficient cheap capsule-hotel style sleepers also help with this, if you can really get a good sleep and arrive somewhere in the early morning then return to the station late at night sleep on the train and be fresh for whatever you do at home, that really is better than an airplane in many ways.
I used sleeper trains a lot in Asia, and am glad to see they are coming back into fashion in cross-European trips. really need that kind of service in our lives!
It’s true that sometimes the distance and slow trains make people choose for the plane, by having a girlfriend originally from Taiwan I fully understand and I choose to fly as well (although I’ve been to China in the past by train).
I think it’s not always bad to fly, but we should really think before we board a plane. It’s like alcohol. I love a good glass of wine, but I don’t want to be drunk every weekend.
Please music volume down and your voice volume up. If I have good volume for music, I can't hear you. If I increase volume to hear your voice, then music is too loud.
Thanks for the feedback
on longer distance low traffic route, if you consider the impact of construction and sustaining a railway and the energy generation/loss for wiring in electric railways, an airplane can become comparatively sustainable (even though I still would prefer a train if I have the time for it)...
I did research on this and actually that’s nog quite true. On longer distance the airplane takes more weight for fuel so especially the first section of the route is using more energy. What is a thing for flying is that pollution on a higher altitude (this is already the case if you travel by car in the mountains) causes more environmental damage than on a lower altitude (on the other hand, less air resistance so flying high makes more sense eventually I guess). If planes will slow down a bit, this makes a BIG impact for long haul flights, this way ticket prices can be a bit lower and airlines can also make a bit more profit (only winners I guess).
It’s an interesting topic for sure.
@@Trainviking longer distance is definitely more efficient than short haul flights, or at least should be unless you do something very wrong...
what I meant is, there are even some shorter haul routes where a plane can be more efficient, in very specific circumstances... basically, to take a route which either only needs to take less then 50 people a day, or maybe a few hundred people a day but at a frequency meaning you need to carry only a couple of dozen people at a time
if there is no sane way to make these two locations part of train lines linking other destinations, the ecological impact and cost to just connect two such communities would be prohibitive, however, an airplane can provide a link which due to still carrying a reasonable density of people for it's size, may operate with considerable efficiency
(obviously, a bus might cost less, but the discomfort of that mode of transport should keep it out of the game, since it's not an equal category of travel modes as a train or airplane, and it still has a very significant ecological impact)
the really sustainable way to go however is Ferries... especially sailing ships.
have you ever considered trying to find a way onto one of these? I know for a fact there are occasional ticketed sail-ships between Morocco and the UK, not sure about other parts of Europe.
I mean, you would not be carbon zero, since you do Motor-sail for a short distance around the harbor, and possibly some part of the distance is on mixed power if the wind is lower, but that's still a quarter or less of the impact of an average train journey of thesame distance.
Agree ferries are in general a very sustainable way of transport. Not like a cruise (people often see this as the same thing). I noticed one ferry between the UK and France with real sailing ships, I love to take that as well. On ferries the number of pollution is pretty often very mixed, because they also take goods (trucks, etc) and that’s maybe the most important part for ferries you can get very different outcomes for polition. I actually want to make a kind of a documentary series about this where I go more in depth on this topic. I want to use examples on different parts of the world, like for example my girlfriend is from Taiwan. It’s a small country where east and west are divided by a big mountain range, so in a way I understand short haul flights on some routes. However there are many flights to small islands around Taiwan where you also find ferries. I like to know the differences for the environment on those routes.
Another example, this is not a ferry but an ocean liner, between Europe and America there’s an ocean liner. Great experience however that one only takes passengers and the pollution is therefore twice per passenger compared to flying.
It’s a very interesting topic where there’s not a lot of general knowledge about and you can’t say 1 on 1 that ferries are more sustainable either.
@@Trainviking a ferry would have to be very empty and be used very inefficiently to become worse than a plane on energy use, however, yes, these machines travel through a delicate biosphere that is the ocean environment, it has many ways to pollute in ways that are not directly propulsion related (or at least nothing to do with the energy consumption) and also ships can be rather old... they do not have thesame pollution control measures as we do on modern airplanes or cars(same can be true with some older trains in some parts of the world, though this to a lesser degree)
@@Trainviking Trans-Atlantic, I would actually recommend using a passenger carrying container ship, Maersk used to allow a few passengers on many of their ships... not a 5-star experience to be sure, but it is quicker and cheaper than taking a cruise-ship like ocean-liner if you want to try the route...
When you arrive in Casablanca with train from airport, what type of vehicle you need to go to next station, for example my hotel?
This depends where you booked your hotel.
Muhamed square
Épinay-sur-Seine
de belgische break
Ja, ik had dit ook niet verwacht. Grappig hè.
Funny how i'd get this video recommended litteraly when i'm sitting in the belgian version of this
Hahaha so funny. I have to say the Belgian versions are a bit better.
Here’s looking at you kid
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@ a quote from the movie Casablanca
that train in Morocco is the same train in Belgium 👉🏻👉🏻 ua-cam.com/video/S08US7SDXiw/v-deo.htmlsi=YiTC-xgdPZeZjxcT
I know.
Excellent video thanks
Thank you