STOP Leaks BEFORE they flood your house - NO Plumber required
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- NO plumber required. Never worry about your house flooding from a burst hose or water pipe. The first electronic valve that turns your water off when it detects a leak AUTOMATICALLY without anyone being there. Ingenius invention! I was not a fan of the Moen Flo or other devices that require a plumber can cost over $1000 and you are stuck with them, this is a very clever alternative.
Econet standard Bulldog: amzn.to/3R4HM15 (3 sensors included)
Econet ZWave Bulldog: amzn.to/49J97NB
Direct from Econet: www.econetshop.com/index.php/...
Econet sent me this valve at no charge, all opinions & tests are my own.
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I think this device is very clever & could save your house when you aren't home. What do you think? - Standard Kit: amzn.to/3R4HM15 - Direct: www.econetshop.com/index.php/products.html
can you still maually turn it off if power is out?
I’ve had the bulldog with about 15 sensors for about four years now. I can attest to the fact that’s it’s saved my bacon a couple of times. I have it hooked up to alexa who will notify me where the leak is. One time she announced” leak in kitchen sink, water main is off” so I was able to deal with the issue before it got worse.
Thats awesome feedback on this. Glad to hear its been working well for you.
Thanks for the feedback. We love to hear it.
I have a different brand but same concept. It is integrated into my smart home ecosystem. Another use is when I am working on plumbing somewhere else in the house I can remotely turn off the water, do the pluming work and then turn it back on from my phone all without asking help from someone else or running back and forth from my water shutoff.
One note: most of these require a ball valve as your shut off. If you have a gate valve you may need to get a different version (which I have not seen) or replace your main shut off with a ball valve.
Wow! I'm sold. My wife and I had a serious leak less than a month ago, after a plumbing project in which I had stupidly overtightened a PVC fitting. It held for two weeks, then cracked wide open as we slept. What a mess! Whatever this unit sells for, I don't care. I'm ordering one. Good video. Thanks, and cheers from British Columbia, Canada!
I did this exact same Bulldog valve on a Zwave network setup controlled by a Home Assistant linux server 3 years ago. Literally 2 weeks after I completed the install my hot water heater exploded and it saved me from catastrophic damage. I cleaned up a small puddle with a towel.
Your right on with this product! I've had Bulldog for about 3 years and it saved me from a toilet leak. I purchased the Zwave version over the WiFi version. It's worked great with Habitat, a smart home hub. So if WiFi goes down as long as my router has power it will still work. As you stated, it's very easy to install and customer service is excellent.
Always enjoy your videos
Thank you for sharing this and the nice words!
Thanks for the feedback - we love to hear “saved me” stories.
I’ve had the Bulldog in place for over a year. It saved me from a water leak at the kitchen sink. I have it tied into Apple HomeKit using Aqara sensors. Works great!
While this a good cheap idea, I spent a lot more for my "Moen Flo" which had to be installed by a plumber because its sense's the flow of water through the pipe, so you don't need sensors through-out the house. Again, this is a good low-cost alternative. Thx again for your very informative videos!
I trust actual sensors at hot spots more than an algorithm. Having said that I plan to install a Moen to work alongside my existing sensor based system some time next year. Each system has its pros and cons and I have been bitten by water damage enough times that I don't think I could have enough preventative measures.
I gotta tell you that it works too good! It’s installed in a summer house and there were times I forgot to switch it “home “‘mode and started to use too much water by washing my mower outside and it shut off because it thought it was a leak. Also forgot and flushed a toilet and it wouldn’t fill back up. 😅. That was when I first installed it so now I’m pretty used to it. But it definitely works well!
I like the sound of that. I would rather it be too cautious than miss a potential leak.@@paulattanasio3061
Moen Flo is a cool product but expensive, requires plumbing, doesn’t work without wifi. The Bulldog communicates locally and will still shut off water even if wifi is down. Battery backup also available.
Moen flos usually give you a decent amount off of your insurance thus isn't on any of the lists for it so far that I know of cool product. I hope it is soon.
Excellent. I'm always uneasy about water issues especially after someone breaking the toilet tank upstairs. I figure it had been running about 5 mins. What a mess. Yet I felt lucky because if I hadn't come in just then, it could have so much worse.
We use the Bulldog to shut off the water at our vacation home and turn it on when guest/renters arrive. We have had several leaks over the years (dishwasher, laundry )and the bulldog has saved the day turning off the water before any damage could happen. IMHO, everyone should have one becasue sooner or later something is going to spring a leak in your house.
Absolutely fantastic idea! Having well water myself, I made something similar, only instead of turning a valve, it deactivates the power to the well pump. Before that, I suffered from too much water damage from multiple leaks over many years.
What a great product! Simple and non-invasive. I don’t own a home yet, but this is something I will consider if I ever get the chance to.
I like it. I have a cabin in the white mountains, and this could give me peace of mind when I let others stay and they forget to turn off the water.
Neat product Chris! I’m that guy that simply turns off the valve when I go away.
This is an amazing video! I recently had a flood in my basement. This device is so smart!
I had setting one of these up with sensors and a valve in home assistant on my list for a while, a turnkey system that still allows integration sounds even better, thanks for sharing
Wow, great find. Definitely a worthwhile insurance policy. Thank you sir!
Thank you so much my brother has had a leak in his house for so long & needed a way to find it & turn the water off.
That is fantastic.
Thankyou very much for sharing kind Sir. 👍🏼🙂👍🏼❤️
finally, one product I knew about before you! Bulldog is great and interfaces with my Home Assistant smart home
This is incredible!
Thank you. I've been researching for a system to install in my parents home but they all either need to be wifi connected, have a subscription service, or need a smart phone app. My father uses a flip phone and I just wanted something as simple and non-invasive as possible. I'll check this out!
Thank you I agree. I looked at the Moen Flo when it came out, now a year later many of them have failed, they use AI, and foolishness to determine leaks. Plus they must be plumbed in. Not good, this is so much more straightforward and doesn't cost you monthly.
Great video, short and to the point. Earned my sub!
Wow pretty awesome stuff - Thank You 🙏
great video
I would exercise that unit once a month. Those ball valves can be hard to turn if not used for a long time.
Same thoughts. If it gets rusted and stuck, the bulldog wont be able to operate it. Just self destructs from straining the motor and gears.
Hey, it's Chad from EcoNet. There are a lot of cheap products out there that will burn up or not drive a valve to fully closed.
No hyperbole, we hear too many customer horror stories about houses flooding because some tiny cheap motor didn't fully close their valve or burned out in the moment of need.
We have the toughest product, hands down. Our Bulldog has a super tough chassis, all metal gearing, and it will reliably produce in excess of 11ft/lbs of torque. I've tried to slow it down, and it doesn't care that you're there!
We're comfortable, if you're able to move the valve, it's going to move it easily. We've also tested it on valves to 100,000 cycles with not a speck of wear. We actually only stopped it so the R&D guys could have some peace and quiet.
All that said, we think it's an excellent idea to cycle the Bulldog once a month, especially if you have hard water or a tough valve. It certainly can't hurt. You can even setup a routine to automate this. I was entertained by the suggestion and just added a Google Home routine to my Bulldog system to close every Monday at 3am, wait 1 minute, and reopen the valve. It's easy to do this with all of the smart versions we sell.
Cheers
@@chadsquizzato7039 Thanks for that comforting info, strong product and r&d. I want to get one for my old 1918 home with galvanized pipes, I just have to hire a plumber to change my gate valve to a ball valve. Silver Cymbal really did a good job of showing the product.
Excellent product. Keep up the awesome videos you do
Than you, I really appreciate the nice words
I like this. I had a use for this a while back. Luckily, it was during the pandemic and I was home, I saw the leak on my security camera. But had I not been home, it would have been catastrophic. So I am interested in things like this.
Neat gadget! Wish I had this a year ago for the flood in my house!! 😂
Sounds like an interesting product.
I been wanting to order one!
I did the same kind of build with zwave devices and home assistant. It was pretty cheap to setup but requires some
Knowledge about computers and joining together different kinds of devices with home assistant. To be clear I’m not saying it’s impossible for any determined person. Seeing an all-in-one system like this is great! A co-worker of mine lost his house due to a pipe burst on the top level of his house while he was traveling.
I did the same because I like the control it offers you. For example on my washing machine I have it set to not only turn off the water, but also kill the power to the machine so it stops pumping water onto the floor if that drain tube pops out again, in addition to sending me text and email alerts. I found Node-Red to be easier to program the logic flow than the YAML configs that Home Assistant uses.
@@sathivv950 I did something along the same lines but I bought a stainless steel electro-mechanical ball valve from US Solid, then wired that up to a Zooz 700 Series Z-Wave Relay ZEN17 which is then controlled through Home Assistant via Z-Wave. I put a water-leak sensor under each sink and toilet and then others next to my water heater, refrigerator, and in the laundry.
I set it up for a few situations:
1) water on/off setup: turn on or off, depending on what you're trying to do: the water main, the water heater, dish washer, washing machine. In addition, open/close a water drain. This is so that when the water is turned off all of the water in the pipes will drain so there's no pressure in the pipes. Send a notification that the water is on/off
2) Leak detection: if a leak is detected anywhere, turn the water off. Send a notification that a leak was detected.
3) out of town: If I travel > 100mi away, turn the water off
I have a Flume 2 monitoring the flow, which works pretty well. I could put some tiggers on this but haven't yet. I could see situations where I'd want the water flowing at a high rate for a period of time if I'm watering the lawn, doing laundry, etc. (granted, some of these toggle on/off like laundry/dish washer). It does allow me to see that there is no flow if I get a leak alert. Its a nice way of checking that everything is off.
This is really cool
Great video, I find this concept superior to the Moen flo as the price point is better and it’s a DIY install. Additionally this can taken with you if you move and it allows for traditional ball valves which are more reliable than Moens integrated valve.
Now I just need to replace my main house shutoff valve to be a quarter turn ball valve. :)
I was an electrician and frequently did work for a flood and fire restoration company. The biggest cause of burst pipes is people turning down the heat when they are on vacation. When you set the thermostat to 50°, that is the temperature where the t-stat is it can be below freezing in your basement.
I have seen houses with ice coming out from under the garage door.
Water is worse than a fire, everything is junk.
Great point about setting t-stat low. For a week I left 25* weather for an 85* Cancun and set my t-stat to 62*. I have an Ecobee smart t-stat in living room and a remote sensor in basement. I was worried about the basement getting too cold since all my pipes are exposed but luckily the basement sensor only got down to 58*. I don’t think I’d set it below 60* for vacation. Old 1918 house with galvanized pipes and needs replacing, I do want to get this Bulldog device for protection.
@@Campos2011 Turning off the water before going on vacation might sound paranoid, but if you have seen the damage that I have... $50-100k easy.
If your shutoff valve doesn't work well, have a plumber install a 1/4 ball valve.
Does this work with a tankless water heater? Great video! Always enjoy them.
they really need an outdoor version. in texas most shutoffs are outside the home.
They actually have an outdoor one, I can't vouch for it. as I didn't get to work with that model but they list it on their site.
I have been looking for a wired solution for years . And its under 2k, great!
I like this device for it's simplicity but I don't like battery operated wireless sensors in such a critical application. It's not true that this is the first device capable of automatically shutting off the main water when leaks are detected. There are several on the market. I've had the Phyn plus for a couple of years now. It provides detailed water usage monitoring as well as auto shutoff capability based on evolving AI. There's also the Moen Flo and a couple of other lesser known options but they do all require invasive installation best left to a plumber.
I moved to Florida from PA about 4 years ago. Not a great water system. My shutoff is in the front yard in a sunken box with a metal lid. They fill up with sand (the entire freaking state is made of sand. If you have dirt, it was shipped in). So you have to clear the debris and use a tool to turn it. If I had any idea where it entered the house I’d cut in a new shut off. Not great.
Really cool device, could use something like this on my stop tap cause its hidden behind a washing machine 😢
"No plumbing required".
Mr. gate valve has entered the comments.
Wish I would have had this.
Amazing invention. One issue I see though is that the motor that moves the valve lever must have electricity, so the device would have to be installed at the water main inside the house? Some older houses, such as mine only has a water main cutoff at the street.
They also run on batteries
my main water shut off valve is on the outside wall of the garage, do i need to have a shut off valve inside if i want to use the hardwired option? Also, if it's a false positive, is it easy to manually turn on the valve?
I like this. I live in earthquake area. Do you know of any earthquake sensing water shutoff system?
Wish they had something like this for RVs.
Hey, it's Chad from EcoNet.
We've had many customers use the Bulldog in their RV's. If your RV has a 90º ball valve in it, or if you can put one in, there's no reason you couldn't install this system.
We have a "Just Works" system that is direct paired to it's water sensors and doesn't require an internet connection to detect and stop a leak.
We also have a Professional version with batteries that can be configured to run standalone or as a backup if there are power outages. Our support team is happy to help you determine what system is best for you.
I have a house with galvanized pipes that need to be replaced but we're not quite ready yet. Since I'm always worrying about water leaks this is almost an impulse buy. I have some zigbee water sensors connected to a Hubitat to let me know about leaks, but it looks like the Z-wave version of this product will let me connect it to Hubitat and make those sensors actually do something about it.
Hi, it's Chad from EcoNet. We have a Hubitat system at our factory. Our Z-Wave model (EVC200) works perfectly with it.
Curious on torque and the one point of contact on the pipe. My valve is 20+ years old and takes some effort to turn . I like the way the zooz titan brand mounts but the bulldog has more sensors included. Always like your videos full of great info
They may have specs on how much torque can be applied. The valve definitely needs to be able to turn but these have a lot of force. They are clever since they only exert force on the valve and not the pipe. since if they did it that way potentially they could damage the pipe. But if you can turn it by hand it should be able to do it even if its tight. The valve on the PVC at the end of the video almost needs two hands to turn since it 1" and brand new but not loose like normal 3/4" ones and it turned that without a problem.
Hi, it's Chad from EcoNet. Our design mounts to the valve, not the pipe, so there's no risk to the plumbing connection. The torque rating is 11ft/lbs minimum, which is enough torque to turn the most difficult ball valves up to 2 inch in size.
Do you recommend turning off water main when leaving the house for vacation? I have gotten answers on both sides. Some say, it’s not good for your water heater. Of course, I’m assuming prior installing a device like the auto shut off system.
Turning off the water is super risky and you heard correct. Water heaters and boilers can blow up, have a fire etc with lack of water and often people forget about them. You are safer to turn off the power and water to ensure nothing can happen but then you may lose your alarm and other systems. It's risky unless you really know all your hot water consuming appliances
@@SilverCymbalWhen I am gone overnight or vacation I always turn my water off and turn off my electric water heater at the breaker box.
@@brittblanton8342 Yes if you do that you should be fine, but I think a lot of people don't think it through and 99% of time it wouldn't matter but it can be serious if forgotten. Even I keep a few checklists for switching to generator, etc. Could be 2am and I am getting older myself too.
I’ve read that leaving water in heater while turned off extended amount of time is not a good idea, that the sitting water could build bacteria. My water heater has a “vacation mode” which I guess keeps it warm enough to not do that, but I have yet to use that setting.
Unfortunately this device would not work for me as i dont have a lever ball shut off. I have the one you have to turn to the right several times before tbe water service is off. Looks like the valve handle on a hose bib spiguit. Do they make a device to shut these tupe valves off?
Can you name the brand of wired sensor that is compatible with this unit. Excellent video I am researching purchasing this unit for my home.
Chad from EcoNet here. We sell wired leak sensors and wired rope sensors, but any sensor that has a 2.5mm headphone style jack connector can be plugged into the Bulldog control module. We can even provide extension cables if needed.
i have a well. Got me thinking that killing power to pump would (using Z-Wave switch and sensors) do the same...
Is there a way to quickly disengage the gearbox and actuate the handle manually? Sometimes you may want to without having to completely remove the bulldog.
Yes I should have mentioned that. There is a little button on the back, you just push it in and the valve turns manually. These guys seemed to think of everything with this one
Does the app alert you when the wireless sensors are low on battery?
I now have a water heater in the attic. I have a hard time getting used to it being up there. This device would certainly be cheaper than moving the water heater. Why were they put up there to begin with?
Question, for my main water valve it's a circular shut off valve, but I notice that the cold water shut off valve for my hot water heater is the correct valve, should I put it on there instead, would that work just as well?
Since a leak could come from the cold or hot lines, you really want to shut off the source for both as close to your water main entrance as possible.
The Bulldog only works on 90º ball valves. There are two options.
1. You can have your street main turned off and replace the gate valve with a new ball valve.
2. Many people in your situation close their existing gate valve and install a ball valve just after it. The gate valve is then opened back up and a Bulldog is mounted to the new ball valve, effectively able to shut off the homes main water source.
Hope this helps!
It looks like that would only work for a ball valve. Do they have alternatives for gate valves / stop valves?
If you have a primary water supply through a gate valve would highly recommend changing for a ball valve
I agree with @briancnc here.
If there's not great way to accomplish this in the near term, many people in your situation close their existing gate valve and install a ball valve just after it. The gate valve is then opened back up and a Bulldog is mounted to the new ball valve, effectively able to shut off the homes main water source.
It's a second choice but better odds of a dry house than not doing anything.
Hope this helps!
I have one
I'm surprised that the whole thing has a motor. Wouldn't it be easier to have it be spring-actuated, with a solenoid that releases the spring to close the valve, and requiring manual action to reopen?
Any chance this could break loose a bad solder joint on the valve to the pipe with the torque being applied?
Fortunately no, I asked that same question. It holds only onto the valve itself and it doesn't brace against the pipe, so that should not ever happen
Yeah that's neat. I just turn off the water when I go on a trip.
I had a friend that did that, until his boiler blew up. You must be 1000% sure you have no appliances running that can use water, like a boiler. If you don't that is a free and easy solution.
the api being open source should mean you are able to write your own interfaces and if you are an expert enough in programming you can spot and report any security vulnerabilities.
proprietary systems are very closed and finding security vulnerabilities can be tricky as you can be charged with hacking if you reverse engineer just to find the vulnerabilities and you cant even develop for the device without very expensive development kits and even then it is still difficult as there are non disclosure agreements.
Potential for discount on homeowners insurance with this installed as well.
I like the YoLink ecosystem more, but they're about the same price but YoLink doesn't use WiFi to connect to the sensors
Do they have a water resistant option? My water shutoff valve is a ball valve that is outdoors.
Yes, they do have an outdoor version. I couldn't vouch for it as I couldn't test it but it claims to be able to remain and operate outdoors 24/7
@@SilverCymbalAwesome! I will be considering purchasing one for myself. This is especially useful in the mobile home we live in which has CPVC plumbing which is prone to leakage.
A lot of houses use gate valves. Will it work with those?
Sadly no. It must be a 90º ball valve type. There are two options.
1. You can have your street main turned off and replace the gate valve with a new ball valve.
2. Many people in your situation close their existing gate valve and install a ball valve just after it. The gate valve is then opened back up and a Bulldog is mounted to the new ball valve, effectively able to shut off the homes main water source.
Hope this helps!
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I bought one almost two years ago but looks identical. The puck sensor that is less than 75 feet from the control unit in my basement is not strong enough and will not trigger the valve to close. I have to keep it 15 feet away from my washing machine for it to have a 50 foot straight run to the control unit for it to work correctly. They just don’t reach 1500 feet away. I did speak to the company (they are very nice) and they sent me replacement pucks that didn’t make a difference. BTW my wireless house alarm basement door remote has no problem reaching much further and two floors up. A bit disappointed
Interesting, in my new place we have a strange signal issue where something similar happens. I think its the insulkation in the basement which is foil backed. Seriously its like a tin foil hat, but I have seen some signal degradation with other products. I had to put a access point down there just so we could make cell calls too.
@@SilverCymbal My basement is unfinished and pretty empty except a few shelving racks on one of the walls. I just would feel more comfortable if the puck was right next to the washing machine but I guess this is still better 15 feet away than nothing. Keep up the excellent videos. I look forward to them.
Will this work over intranet if the internet is down but your network is still up?
Yes, the network is not required for operation at all. It is only used to send you a notification or for manual control. You can never connect it to wifi and you still have full operation
Can you manipulate the valve manually with this installed?
Yes, very easily. There is a little button on the back of the valve, when you push that in the valve can be turned manually.
How strong is that motor? I can't turn one of my shutoffs with two hands and a 48" pipe wrench.
It is extremely strong, I expected an RC servo, but its like 100x that. However from what you are describing it wont be able to do it. It can do a tight valve but it must be able to be turned by hand.
This is awesome. Wish the wireless sensors could be plugged into a wall, though (instead of only being able to do batteries or wire all the way back to the main unit).
That's a great idea, hopefully they will see your comment and consider making a version like that too
Hey, it's Chad from EcoNet. Although we recommend checking the leak sensors once per year, you can typically expect the sensor batteries to last around 3 years. We're constantly innovating. Appreciate the idea which we've added it to the whiteboard.
@@chadsquizzato7039Does the YoLink kit use your valve or is it not the same?
With this unit attached, can you still turn the valve manually?
Hi, Chad from EcoNet here. Yes you can. There is a clutch button on the bottom of the valve robot. If you need to move the valve manually, simply depress the clutch button and the drivetrain is disengaged freeing both the robots control arm and the valve handle. You're then free to move the valve to whatever position you desire.
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This could put insurance companies outta business in the flood repair industry😂 I think in 80-100 years I could see devices like these being mandatory in newly built housing for California.
Why not just shut off the main if you are leaving your house for an extended period of time?
Hi, Chad from EcoNet here. There are a few ways look at question.
1. Closing you main valve when your not home is indeed a good idea.
a. I've always turned my main off when leaving on vacation and still do.
b. Forgot to close the valve before you left? You can remotely close it.
c. Remotely open the valve while you're away, for a friend or renters coming to your cottage.
d. It's really helpful if your valve is in a tricky spot like a crawlspace or an outdoor enclosure, and things that are easy to do get done more often.
2. Sometimes it's not feasible to close the valve when you go.
a. You could have older kids who stay back for school or work periodically like my wife and I.
b. Many people have a cottage they rent out and it's too far away.
c. Perhaps you have a house siter, gardener or a cleaning service and shutting the water off is not an option.
d. You could have a leak while at work or just out getting groceries.
3. You could be home and not even notice you have a leak happening. While you're asleep or watching a movie for example.
The beauty of this system is you don't have to be there, be awake, or trust anyone to notice. It just works!
Is this thing able to receive control commands from a phone device remotely?
Yes it can, that shot of the app allows you to open or close the valve. I used it on my sprinkler valve to turn it off and on as needed. Not sure I would only buy one for that purpose but it can save having another person somewhere or if you want to get rid of those squatters!
@@SilverCymbalThank you and have a blessed day! I will look into getting this device for the house.
Why does it have to be a thing that turns a giant valve instead of just an electronically controlled valve?
There are many products like that available, but for most folks they need to be professionally installed and costs can be over $1200. This is a way to get the same result for about 1/4th the cost
@@SilverCymbal *how* is the bulky turning motor stuff supposed to be cheaper than an electronic valve?
There's no reason to expect a big cost gap in electronic controls, so when it comes to parts, one would think the bigger thing would be a lot more.
I'm not saying it's useless or that other solutions aren't too expensive, so much as I'm perplexed by how *this* particular solution came to be in this area with how bulky it is
I have a knob. No go.
The "doesn't require plumbing work" is a bit misleading as most homes don't have this type of shut off valve unless you specifically install one or are on a well. Almost all homes attached to city water have a single, in ground shut off that uses a "water key" that this won't work on
Depends on where you live. I've lived all over the US, and many homes on city water with a crawl space or basement have a shutoff within the house (if you count those spaces as within) as well as the meter shutoff. It's very unusual to have an interior shutoff with a slab, although one particularly over-engineered house I toured in Texas did (as well as chase access to the back of all plumbing walls for ease of repairs).
Currently unavailable at Amazon.
This link should work: amzn.to/3R4HM15
@@SilverCymbal Links work. The item is either sold out or no longer available. "Currently unavailable."
this looks like a bad idea for in house fire sprinkler systems it's a good idea to separate those from this valve or you're screwed when your house catches fire
Imagine having a water leak and a fire all in the same day! What a bad day that would be. May just want to just end it all at that point. 😂
@@fern9234 I'm talking about the fore sprinkler system it would obviously make the floor wet the thing would just shut the valve off and make things worse
@@dragonfireproductions790 Oh, I see! That's a very good point. It would sense the water and turn off the fire suppression system during a fire. That would definitely be a problem. Good catch
@@fern9234 yea my firefighter sense tingled when i saw it
why do you keep cakking it redodIo?
Wish I could get a home insurance discount for having this.
Many of them offer that and it can make the device almost free. It varies carrier to carrier but Safety Insurance out here does
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Wireless ? Like i never heard of a wireless system getting hacked. Bummer
You don't have to connect it to Wifi. You can keep it all local.
I enjoy a lot of your videos, but ones like this feel like a long advertisement. You say things all about the product that can be read off of a spec sheet, but you don’t indicate any type of testing done by you, nor take it apart to show what might be inside, etc.
Thanks
I see your point, but I don’t feel that way . He does the research, tells us about it and that saves me hours.
Grohe has offered a product like this for years. This isn’t new and those little alarms are not the only thing you could do until now. Great product and everyone should have something like this but it’s hardly novel.
Grohe has a model that sells for $600 and needs to be cut into your water main and the sensors are $70 each additionalyl. So most are looking at about $1300 in total installed with 3 sensors. This is $299 and can be installed yourself. It's different
Why not just turn the water off when you're not home
Hi, Chad from EcoNet here. There are a few ways look at question.
1. Closing you main valve when your not home is indeed a good idea.
a. I've always turned my main off when leaving on vacation and still do.
b. Forgot to close the valve before you left? You can remotely close it.
c. Remotely open the valve while you're away, for a friend or renters coming to your cottage.
d. It's really helpful if your valve is in a tricky spot like a crawlspace or an outdoor enclosure, and things that are easy to do get done more often.
2. Sometimes it's not feasible to close the valve when you go.
a. You could have older kids who stay back for school or work periodically like my wife and I.
b. Many people have a cottage they rent out and it's too far away.
c. Perhaps you have a house siter, gardener or a cleaning service and shutting the water off is not an option.
d. You could have a leak while at work or just out getting groceries.
3. You could be home and not even notice you have a leak happening. While you're asleep or watching a movie for example.
The beauty of this system is you don't have to be there, be awake, or trust anyone to notice. It just works!
LMAO "Affordable" God damn 400 Dollars .