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  • @weshammer
    @weshammer  2 роки тому +587

    What other factions characters or events do you think I should cover on this channel? Who should get the next deep dive? 🤔

    • @pogcoademon1601
      @pogcoademon1601 2 роки тому +18

      How about an in depth look at The Tau and Drukari, that story sounds like it would be really interesting to have a deeper look into.

    • @adamblue1220
      @adamblue1220 2 роки тому +24

      I’d be very interested to see a Long based video on the warp and things that inhabit it.

    • @Tito_Silva
      @Tito_Silva 2 роки тому +9

      I'd be really thankful if you were to cover some kind of Space Marines. They're my first ever army and i want to learn about them

    • @guywholikesmemes4993
      @guywholikesmemes4993 2 роки тому +15

      I would fucking love a full proper video on orks. Yes they have funny bits but when you look into them you get some seriously interesting shit: krorks, the beast(and his clones), ghazghknull, chaddest of all the orks? Hell gork and mork would be nice to look into as well as they actually show a lot about ork mentality. (Well most of them anyways.)

    • @dracmanmage2864
      @dracmanmage2864 2 роки тому +18

      Grey knight, with the release of chaos gate i think they need more lore vodeo.

  • @Historyfrek4ever
    @Historyfrek4ever 2 роки тому +2787

    Saddest part about the Custodes is that being warriors was never meant to be more than phase or slither of their existence. They were meant to be the exemplars of humanities future.

    • @denniswingo2004
      @denniswingo2004 2 роки тому +261

      Yea, almost seems like they were to rule the web way civilization the Emperor planned with him.

    • @ryanbowen4526
      @ryanbowen4526 2 роки тому +206

      "We were never soldiers"

    • @im2randomghgh
      @im2randomghgh 2 роки тому +465

      When people tell me Custodes aren't grimdark enough I usually point to this. Being made for a perfect future that never came, to be the companions of a dead god, being the only rational people in an irrational galaxy etc seems like a special form of hell!

    • @Samantha-jv6xu
      @Samantha-jv6xu 2 роки тому +66

      @@im2randomghgh Well, seems to me that the people you've mentioned are just in it for the grimderp

    • @boom350ph
      @boom350ph 2 роки тому +68

      i think their the only one that really dont worship the emperor becuase they know he just want the best for humanity with the promise of knowlage and inovations

  • @benrichardson5662
    @benrichardson5662 2 роки тому +891

    What I find oddly touching is that each Custodian is extraordinarily we'll schooled in the sciences, philosophy, mathematics, etc. Because the Emperor didn't only want peerless bodyguards but companions who he could talk to as friends.

    • @Chaotic42Kami
      @Chaotic42Kami 2 роки тому +102

      What's remarkable is that they keep doing this, even with the Emperor being a corpse in life support and, thus, unable to actually talk with them. No corruption, no cutting corners. Remarkable.

    • @SuperXD44
      @SuperXD44 2 роки тому +85

      @@Chaotic42Kami The thing is that big E actually telepathically talks to the companions from time to time in their dreams. Theres even one instance where one custodian gets a bit mad because Em didnt appear in his dreams recently.
      Also, he really cares about them as seen when he talks with Ra Endymion

    • @rabbitbobo4131
      @rabbitbobo4131 Рік тому

      The big E uses them as council before the heresy, even the big E needs information. Therefore they are the literally eyes and ears of the big E. Custodies consider the priamarch the sons of the emperor, but inferior to them. As each of them are educated to the extreme, and the primarch primitive as they was strip of their right to undergo the education. I remeber in the novel it was said their physical ability was the lease of their ability, what was treasured was their mental capability. It was after heresy that they were left as guards, before that, they were the emperors personal advisor, tacticians, strategist. The lore has flatten them to make the space marine and primarch in the spot light. In earlier edition lore, they were consider too precious and powerful, if they had the kept the lore the imperium would not be as chaotic and less fun.

    • @randombot449
      @randombot449 11 місяців тому

      Sounds even gay-er than a rainbow space marine 😂

    • @alcastro5767
      @alcastro5767 10 місяців тому +4

      Yea but he took out they’re feelings and basically made them autistic so that they wouldnt leave him like the perpetuals

  • @unsolved86
    @unsolved86 2 роки тому +5191

    I still can’t get over how a random guardsman can get a 10 ft tall, golden Demi-god as a best friend because that Demi-god thinks their going to do something cool one day.

    • @koymakilbahhd5593
      @koymakilbahhd5593 2 роки тому +420

      not rly when lets say , they kill the wanted person the Custodes leaves them , leaving them in an open place to be killed. They protect u til u do ur job then immediately leave

    • @kayvaanmcsharrowkyn6901
      @kayvaanmcsharrowkyn6901 2 роки тому +1

      He said it before I did! LOL
      Just imagine that you're like the provincial governor of a world and you are under custodis protection because you're supposed to do something or help someone do the thing that's going to save the thing from those things that are coming to kill the thing. The instant that is over, the golden boys are going to just be like Deuces and they're gone! Which means any enemies that you might have made or anybody that had some patience is now going to be all up in your ass. LOL so yeah it's cool for a little bit it's like yeah you get this Lamborghini for a month but then I'm taking it away and you have to drive this unicycle for the rest of your life.

    • @2guys1cliplol
      @2guys1cliplol 2 роки тому +147

      I feel like that would be a cool idea for a story. Maybe BL should get going on that book lol

    • @anthonymontague756
      @anthonymontague756 2 роки тому +108

      @@2guys1cliplol Yeah, that seems like such an obvious choice for a book. I'm surprised there isn't one already

    • @storytellerrex2537
      @storytellerrex2537 2 роки тому +4

      @@2guys1cliplol p

  • @vxm1917
    @vxm1917 2 роки тому +2567

    "The Custodes abandoned their birth names and take up a name fitting of a hero."
    Then truly,
    Kitten is a worthy name of a hero.

  • @amakaqueru33
    @amakaqueru33 2 роки тому +1894

    one of the funnies things in Warhammer 40k was reading about the Adepta Sororitas looking at a group of custodes for the first time. the Sororitas were almost kissing the floor where the custodes were walking, where on the other hand the custodes were like," those bitches be crazy"

    • @jasonmendoza3124
      @jasonmendoza3124 2 роки тому +32

      what book if i may ask?

    • @amakaqueru33
      @amakaqueru33 2 роки тому +204

      @@jasonmendoza3124 it was from "The Gate of Bones" from the "Dawn of Fire: Warhammer 40,000" series. if you like custodes, the book is really good.

    • @azrieldalusong5042
      @azrieldalusong5042 2 роки тому +159

      Can't say I'm surprised after learning they also simped on St. Celestine.

    • @hiti2473
      @hiti2473 2 роки тому +5

      @@azrieldalusong5042 z

    • @darthgorthaur258
      @darthgorthaur258 2 роки тому +2

      I'm surprised that didn't have them bend over for a "heresy" check of something like that...the sisters would of don't if with out question....

  • @cpl.targrein1793
    @cpl.targrein1793 2 роки тому +958

    You know, despite Custodes being real badasses, I feel like Thunder warrior primarch was right to pity them. Not only they are stripped of everything that makes us human, but great deads are already expected from them. If a Custodes were to throw himself at Horus instead of Ollanius Pius, it would not cause as much resonance within the Imperium and community.

    • @cpl.targrein1793
      @cpl.targrein1793 2 роки тому +125

      @oppai-sama humans with no goals, ambitions, ready to execute any order without even thinking about it... Doesn't look too different from being a servitor.

    • @jonathanathor117
      @jonathanathor117 2 роки тому +40

      @@cpl.targrein1793 that's indoctrination in a nutshell.

    • @AnshumanKantiBose
      @AnshumanKantiBose 2 роки тому +62

      @@cpl.targrein1793 I made the same point on r/40klore.
      Got downvoted by salty banana boi fans. 🤪

    •  2 роки тому +17

      @@cpl.targrein1793 I'm not sure about not thinking about it part. They don't doubt the E's motives, value the big picture more, and have no fear of dying if there is no other way to accomplish their task safe in their belief that their lives wouldn't be wasted thoughtlessly by the Emperor.

    • @Zay_Kuma
      @Zay_Kuma 2 роки тому +13

      There is a story of monkeys who thought it wise to save fish from drowning in a flood.

  • @guywholikesmemes4993
    @guywholikesmemes4993 2 роки тому +649

    Honestly my fav custodes was the guy who beat one of the chaos gods at cards. Children's cards to be precise.

    • @nathandutton2860
      @nathandutton2860 2 роки тому +96

      Ah your talking about little kitten

    • @Hinokassaudifan1
      @Hinokassaudifan1 2 роки тому +62

      well, plot armor does exist in yu-gi-oh. so it's only fair the imperium gets double of that. you know, overpowered and all.

    • @guywholikesmemes4993
      @guywholikesmemes4993 2 роки тому +27

      @@nathandutton2860 indeed! I am saddened as much as brother santodes when kitten fell in what is (as I type this, please let ep 30 not be the) last episode of tts.

    • @guywholikesmemes4993
      @guywholikesmemes4993 2 роки тому +8

      @@Hinokassaudifan1 ahahahahahahah.....
      Seriously the way the imperium stopped the war of the beast was quite BS lmao.

    • @Hinokassaudifan1
      @Hinokassaudifan1 2 роки тому +6

      @@guywholikesmemes4993 plot armor man. star wars taught us that.

  • @vitevius
    @vitevius 2 роки тому +421

    25:39
    "What are you named?" The custodian asked,
    "Arasmus Crowl, the Ordo Hereticus."
    "What do you know of [---]."
    "Nothing at all." Crowl took up his rosette and fixed the golden giant with a defiant glare.
    "But if you do then you are bound by the authority this mark to disclose it."
    There was something like a laugh then rumbling up from the heart of that rococo armor, a deep and fleeting amusement at the audacity of it echoing from the fluting lines of the crafted vox grill,
    "I am bound by no authority but the throne."
    Excerpt from,
    Carrion Throne; Chapter Eight - 2017, by Chris Wraight

    • @Jamhael1
      @Jamhael1 2 роки тому +90

      Inquisitor: "FEAR ME!"
      Custodes: "How cute..."

    • @hisnotsolonely2961
      @hisnotsolonely2961 2 роки тому +42

      Custodian:Hahaha....NO.

    • @marseldagistani1989
      @marseldagistani1989 2 роки тому +36

      @@Jamhael1 Inquisitor: Respect mah Authoritah!

    • @Jamhael1
      @Jamhael1 2 роки тому +35

      @@marseldagistani1989 Custodes: *weakly pimp-slap the Inquisitor*
      Inquisitor: *after a few stunned seconds, begun to dramatically cry for its mom*

    • @ghostwood9174
      @ghostwood9174 2 роки тому +4

      🤘

  • @FormerGovernmentHuman
    @FormerGovernmentHuman 2 роки тому +487

    You mention that despite being tools the Emperor seems to care for his custodes.
    Honestly The Emperor seems to have feelings for alot of his “tools”, it doesn’t stop him from using them as he should, and as he sees fit however, he seems to actually care about them.
    From custodes to random guardsman we see the Emperor enraged at their death, as if he truly loves humanity.

    • @HorusHeretic
      @HorusHeretic 2 роки тому +42

      take good care of your things and they will look after you back. its maintenance 101

    • @FormerGovernmentHuman
      @FormerGovernmentHuman 2 роки тому +84

      @@HorusHeretic true, but at times you see that mask of pragmatism fall and his compassion shows.
      I don’t think he cares about individual humans, but he can’t stand wasting potential, and he loves mankind.
      Like the random guardsman that charged Horus at the end of the heresy? How many theories have sprung up from that one display of emotion. A seemingly worthless pawn riled Big E up more than the loss of one of his favored sons.

    • @omarbradelyjr5334
      @omarbradelyjr5334 2 роки тому +30

      ​@@FormerGovernmentHuman Look at Ra Endymion. The Emperor very much cared about him, so much so that he gave him personal visions because He knew that Ra would have to be sacrificed to Drach'nyen.

    • @YeremiaSiahaan
      @YeremiaSiahaan Рік тому +19

      that's right, The Big E stated that Horus is still His 'son', and the Chaos Gods didn't know Horus better than Him

    • @jinametarasu5117
      @jinametarasu5117 Рік тому +28

      @@FormerGovernmentHuman This is what makes the emperor a great character/leader imo. He was hesitant to kill Horus his son he had hope that his son can still be saved, but once Horus killed the lowly guardsman that courageously charged a demi god that is where the Emperor knew his son is lost. Maybe the emperor sees humans as his children aswell? The emperor is an actual god not just because of his power or status but also his morality and reason are godly in that no man can comprehend him.

  • @sinistrality7883
    @sinistrality7883 Рік тому +104

    I think one of the main things that made the Custodes interesting for me is that they see the emperor not as a Father, not a God, and not a ruler of an empire, but a close friend and leader, like these guys aren't just warriors, they are philosophers, Military strategists, scientists, they fought with him to unite Terra and literally see the construction of the Imperium, they are privy on the most personal and human view of the emperor and most of all they are suppose to be exemplars of humanity, the emperor himself would come to them for Ideas, opinions, strategies etc, like imagine that? it's like a Primarch asking one lone Guardsman on battle tactics and ideas.

    • @rabbitbobo4131
      @rabbitbobo4131 Рік тому +10

      The emperor didn’t consider him self superior, the imperium did. And he never said he was all knowing or demigod. The original lore, consider him to be a great leader of man, and man of great power. He is like most king, take council from the elite and he just take it to the extreme, he breed and educated his own council. At the end of the unification war, he was not alone, he banned human of his own ideal and created the army, and fought, and turn to making thunder warrior, he just lived so long that only malcadore and him was left. At the later stage, I think he was incredible lay lonely, considering he has to breed his council.

    • @wernerwernerowy8761
      @wernerwernerowy8761 8 місяців тому

      Adeptus Custodes banda tchórzy i ciot którzy zabardzo bali się wojowników Gromu by stanąć z nimi w otwartym polu nic więcej. Glorią of Thunder Wariors

  • @abuzzsiren8655
    @abuzzsiren8655 2 роки тому +274

    That last part about that Thunder Warrior Primarch and Valdor makes me wonder Where Valdor has went to. They say some believe he serves the Emperor still. Mabey the memory of that vision shook him more than he would have thought.

    • @ton44048
      @ton44048 2 роки тому +23

      This is just a theory, but maybe he try to find his name just to remind Emp who he was. From all the worship, he may be loose himself and need a reminder.
      I can't think of any possible way for custodian to betrayed the Emp.

    • @jonathanathor117
      @jonathanathor117 2 роки тому

      @oppai-sama It's Obama's last name.

    • @danpsyker6122
      @danpsyker6122 2 роки тому +4

      @oppai-sama Wasn't it revealed (but not 100% confirmed) in the book 'Penitent', Book 2 of the Bequin Series by Dan Abnett? Unless the book you're referring to came out after that? If so I'd love to read that too.
      Book 3 shouldn't be too much longer now hopefully, so that should tell us more as whether it is in fact Valdor or not, and also what he's up to.

    • @bigbangrafa8435
      @bigbangrafa8435 2 роки тому +9

      @@danpsyker6122 I believe that this moment will be eventually tied to whatever Valdor is doing as the King in Yellow, the indication that something inside him started to change. I don't know, the entire scene of him answering the thunder warrior screams like a Marvel post-credit scene, like "Alright, I'm doing It myself" kind of thing.

    • @argeltalthecustodiankiller6552
      @argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 2 роки тому

      @@danpsyker6122 haha gal vorbak

  • @jackbales7023
    @jackbales7023 2 роки тому +125

    I love how this little tabletop game made in my home town in someone's garden shed has such a deep lore and I'm constantly impressed every day how much of a fandom this game has

    • @joenobody5913
      @joenobody5913 2 роки тому +5

      Someone in your hometown created Dune in a garden shed? Incredible!

    • @TSotP
      @TSotP 2 роки тому +11

      I love all properties with deep lore. But it's the lore I love, not necessarily the product.
      I've little interest in buying miniatures or playing tabletop, but damn do I love the lore.
      Same goes for most of the comic book heros. I don't want to buy any of them, or even read them, but hearing about the backstory and 80years of Superman history is enthralling.

    • @joenobody5913
      @joenobody5913 2 роки тому +2

      @@TSotP You ain't alone. While I do enjoy some comics/graphic novels and a lot of regular books, I usually spend my free time reading lore about all kinds of different "fandoms". I don't care for anime at all, yet I really like reading wikis for different anime shows

  • @kccustodes2618
    @kccustodes2618 2 роки тому +673

    Your short stuff was interesting and entertaining but it never compared with other Lore Masters. Now though, you sir, are honestly on par with my other favorite Lore Masters. This video was truly excellent on my favorite 40k topic. Also, I believe that around 12k years is likely the accurate time for 1st true Custodes. Amara Astardes says that the Emperor moved and risked entire armies to get Valdor and that Valdor may have been 1st true Custodes. So that makes me think she may have been around before Valdor or have come along so recently after that event that she knew it. Also, you talk of Valdor's vision from Birth of an Empire, Valdor still alive and performing his duty. This really adds weight to the theories of the King in Yellow. Much luv and respect.
    Bravo, Wes. Well done, Kudos.

    • @BestJust_Steve
      @BestJust_Steve 2 роки тому +12

      I just dropped a comment commending him on his work before seeing this one. I completely agree this put him on the same level as the other high caliber Lore Masters.

    • @bmorebread8993
      @bmorebread8993 2 роки тому +5

      *Erda Astartes

    • @evelelf
      @evelelf 2 роки тому

      And they succeeded! They kill ALL OF THEM and not even by their hands! By a bunch a crazy primitives and ONE just-born demon. So much for "One-Man-Army"... Golden Boyz are FAKE! A useful myth but nothing more. Since NO ONE can ACTUALLY testify them.

    • @nathanlittle9048
      @nathanlittle9048 2 роки тому +1

      Totally agree. The deep dives are great.

    • @Tommybotham
      @Tommybotham 2 роки тому +5

      He's better imo. The other guys expect me to watch a 1hr+ video of them droning on and on and on. This guy (Wes) talks in a riveting manner that makes me imagine being in the 40K universe.

  • @gatogato3748
    @gatogato3748 2 роки тому +133

    Horus: "the emperor plans to abandon us and ascend to godhood"
    Thunder Dudes: "first time?"

  • @jonathanathor117
    @jonathanathor117 2 роки тому +288

    Now I feel bad for the thunder warriors. They may be crude but it's actually pretty harsh for them to just die like that.

    • @thedevourer.
      @thedevourer. 2 роки тому +46

      Some were still alive a while into the heresy, tbh it was more a mercy killing as they were very unstable genetically developing cancers and all sorts of psychological problems due to the rushed effort

    • @jonathanathor117
      @jonathanathor117 2 роки тому +28

      @@thedevourer. yeah but still. Big E could try to fix them. Like round up every warrior like cattle but put them in cryo stasis.

    • @pillcosby9854
      @pillcosby9854 2 роки тому +22

      @@jonathanathor117 the little e uses and discards, the only person I think he ever truly cared for was malcador lol

    • @jonathanathor117
      @jonathanathor117 2 роки тому

      @@pillcosby9854 I see potential in the thunder warriors. Gene seed that can be implanted in grown adults. I mean it may have its flaws but the idea could be ironed out. An extra heart and lung isn't a bad thing for an adult to have.

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin 2 роки тому

      @@jonathanathor117 That is because the Emperor is a tyrannical sociopath, who cast out his own humanity and regards the human race as nothing more than slaves to bow and scrape before him and all who serve him, even his own sons are just expendable tools to be tossed aside as soon as he is done with them.

  • @beanosbeanos956
    @beanosbeanos956 2 роки тому +481

    Hadn’t heard about them being like, genetically unable to betray the emperor before. I think it’d be really cool to have a story where through all that education and such the custodes go through one of them comes to the conclusion that this imperium business is a bunch of nonsense but he’s just like physically incapable of doing anything about it and is forced to just keep on serving. I think it’d be a really interesting source of internal conflict.

    • @Shadow952013
      @Shadow952013 2 роки тому +91

      Fun tidbit, they already have had that thought... or something similar.
      I'd have to find the book again, but it's said that the Custodes (as a faction) have become disillusioned and disgusted with the Imperium. They view it as a rotten and corrupted carcass of the Emperor's once great dream.
      If they could, they would leave the Imperium to it's fate at the hands of the evils of the universe. But instead they follow the will of the Emperor.

    • @conor-smith572
      @conor-smith572 2 роки тому +126

      I've read the books. The custodian are really cool from a distance, but the stories told from their point of view reveal the truth.
      One book describes the custodians minds as a mass of manias and obsessions. They cannot rest. Every moment they spend not actively serving the emperor, they instead spend it training. The authors do a really good job at basically making them machines. They don't take much joy in their prowess. They rarely seem actually angry at their enemies. The closest they get to emotion is shame when they feel they've failed somehow. Like in The Master of Mankind where a custodian is using his downtime to practice blade strokes, and chastises himself for being off by a millimetre. Or the custodian dreadnought who feels shame at the fact that he fell in battle and had to be put in a dreadnought.
      Honestly, the way they are now is terrifying enough. A demon outright states that the stars would burn out before one of them could be turned.

    • @jonathanathor117
      @jonathanathor117 2 роки тому +27

      Maybe deep down underneath all the armor, weapons and demigod super soldier physique, the custodes are technically slaves. They're just not fully aware of it yet. Even if they were they can't do shit about it.

    • @carlos84815
      @carlos84815 2 роки тому +41

      "The kingdom of the Emperor is not more than a ruin and a stinking of overcrowded worlds that dive on their own ignorance and fear. It is a infected dump wich they are burning from one side to another, they dont deserver the Emperor, They do not deserve us, But nothing will change the fact that we have to fulfill our duty..."
      -Telchor, Custode Guard
      Codex: Adeptus Custodes (8ª Edition)
      I translated into english due that i read it on spanish xD (or atleast i tryed)

    • @jonathanathor117
      @jonathanathor117 2 роки тому +28

      @@carlos84815 remember when earth had governments, oceans and countries. Man I miss those day.
      - some scientist before shit hit the fan -

  • @zeroalpha9713
    @zeroalpha9713 2 роки тому +234

    Holy terra this was amazingly done, the tone, the pace, the details, absolutely incredible it went right to my soul

  • @Joseph-mw2rl
    @Joseph-mw2rl Рік тому +248

    Custodes: You can't hurt the emperor, we are the custodes
    Chaos warrior: The emperor is a shitty father
    Custodes: Dammit we failed

    • @mrnohax5436
      @mrnohax5436 Рік тому +12

      Horus: *LMAO*

    • @17Scumdog
      @17Scumdog Рік тому +5

      It's not often I get an actual laugh from a comment. Thanks for that!

  • @thecommentguy9380
    @thecommentguy9380 2 роки тому +265

    it was lucky of the traitors that the emperor never considered keeping some thunder warriors to find a way to stabilize their gene flaws to one day serve again, because during that fight between valdor and ushotan, ushotan just cleaved through space marines like nothing
    and to compare the space marines to thunder warriors and custodes, even the primaris never stood a chance, yet it was a stalemate for valdor and ushotan for a good while

    • @ardabaser1349
      @ardabaser1349 2 роки тому +57

      I think it was the design of the thunder warriors all along. The emperor probably just invested everything into power and the result lacked any sort of stability. If the heresy never happened, I am pretty sure the emperor could create mass-produced soldiers way better than the primaris.

    • @ekulerudamuru
      @ekulerudamuru 2 роки тому +17

      @@ardabaser1349 nah, the crusades was at it's last leg no use for Astartes, the emperor wants everyone to be like a custodes

    • @nexuslord6831
      @nexuslord6831 2 роки тому +26

      @@ekulerudamuru The Emperor wanted Man’s Kingdom to be ruled by regular humans, not gene-crafted super soldiers.

    • @pugchi5352
      @pugchi5352 2 роки тому +10

      @@nexuslord6831 Yeah The Emps wanted everyone to be like him or something
      edit* humans only ofc no xenos and demons allowed

    • @S3verusMyG
      @S3verusMyG 2 роки тому +38

      @@pugchi5352 he was fine with xenos being with the imperium, they just didn’t rule

  • @ericpaz4171
    @ericpaz4171 2 роки тому +161

    1 mistake at 18:38 If a custodes falls to 99.9% efficiency, he hands in his war gear and becomes an eye of the emperor, since he has declined in his performance a hair of a fraction

    • @argeltalthecustodiankiller6552
      @argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 2 роки тому +1

      Haha gal vorbak

    • @rogaldorn3643
      @rogaldorn3643 2 роки тому +22

      Sorry about late reply. But Wes wasn't refering to custodes actually dropping permanently but waning from from lack of rest and or food.

    • @Obsidian-Nebula
      @Obsidian-Nebula Рік тому

      How do they count the performance ?

    • @erickellar5867
      @erickellar5867 Рік тому

      @@Obsidian-Nebula I believe space marines are capable of manipulating there organs/metabolisms or controlling the hormones in there bodies. So I can imagine that the custodes being even superior can likely feel quite keenly all aspects of there being. They can likely feel that say there nerves have had a 0,01% decay which would then make them unfit for service. Same for other things they can probably accurately feel there thinking speeds or thoughts and memories and feel/know instantly if there is even the slightest decay.
      I believe the custodes are not truly immortal anything that decays is not immortal. Even if after 10,000 years they only have 0,01% DECAY and once decay starts it tends to speed up or accumulate faster and faster. Though for custodes its probably not as quick as a normal mans

    • @Justarandomriceenjoyer
      @Justarandomriceenjoyer 10 місяців тому

      @@Obsidian-Nebulatests

  • @pogcoademon1601
    @pogcoademon1601 2 роки тому +121

    I've enjoyed your videos a tonne in the past few months, seeing how you deliver this insane universe is what got me into Warhammer. I recently bought the 9th edition core rulebook and it's got so much cool lore and amazing art.

  • @hyukin56ace50
    @hyukin56ace50 2 роки тому +61

    Bro!!!! Please! Please make more long videos like these deep dives!! You give such a good pace of knowledge into 40k! As long as you make them, I will remain loyal like a custodian!

  • @EVER_PRINCE
    @EVER_PRINCE 2 роки тому +400

    Custodes, the glorious golden boys. Or, in other words, a whole army of Henry Cavil lol. My favourite part about Custodes is that if they think even for a second that their skills have decreased by even less than 1%, they instantly retire, and not because it’s funny but because it seriously shows how Insanely they care about their duty. Also, I haven’t finished the Video yet; but in case you don’t, the HH book - The First Heretic - really shows how insane the Custodes are, especially with the *spoilers* -
    The fact entire company needs to coordinate to assassinate the Custodes assigned to their legion.

    • @velstadtvonausterlitz2338
      @velstadtvonausterlitz2338 2 роки тому +9

      🙄🙄

    • @frankthetank8050
      @frankthetank8050 2 роки тому +6

      However a single Imperial assassin can even kill a Custodes without any much effort.

    • @EVER_PRINCE
      @EVER_PRINCE 2 роки тому +56

      @@frankthetank8050 lmao clearly he lied in his bi-millennium performance review lol

    • @Scorpionwincheater88
      @Scorpionwincheater88 2 роки тому +8

      Lol what. First Heretic showed custodes as absolute amateurs and imbeciles

    • @thomas8752
      @thomas8752 2 роки тому

      That's a cool piece of info!
      I always wondered what happened to most of the custodes assigned to these traitor legions. Do you know of any other excerpts of this happening? Surely some of the custodes saw it coming..

  • @martinshen4551
    @martinshen4551 2 роки тому +119

    For me the best explanation why custodies never Corrupted by dark Gods is because “if a man has already been corrupted (by the E) how could he be corrupted a second time”!

    • @ryan1000011
      @ryan1000011 2 роки тому +13

      Demon's of the god of none belief and apathy..... would explain why they like sitting in one place for so long 🤔

    • @Integritys_Sum
      @Integritys_Sum Рік тому

      ​@@ryan1000011Is there a god of that? i feel like any candidates would find it too much work?

    • @ryan1000011
      @ryan1000011 Рік тому +4

      @@Integritys_Sum it's theorised that is what big E is becoming doesn't really track for me as ol' papa nurgle is already entropy which is basically the same but it's still a theory that exists

  • @ezequielmorales4221
    @ezequielmorales4221 2 роки тому +259

    "A custodian would never antagonize an ally" Tell that to the primaris that tried to defend their point and got slaughtered.

    • @rolandcaters7258
      @rolandcaters7258 2 роки тому +84

      If you defy the custodes, you are no longer an ally, you are now a corpse

    • @ezequielmorales4221
      @ezequielmorales4221 2 роки тому +78

      @@rolandcaters7258 They didn't defy shit, they were trying to explain the situation and were slaughtered.

    • @Alex-jz2hk
      @Alex-jz2hk 2 роки тому +31

      @@ezequielmorales4221 sounds like a Skill Issue to me fr fr

    • @goldenseal640
      @goldenseal640 2 роки тому +47

      That story had same logic as naked khorne berserker punching hole in custodian

    • @josephukpong2287
      @josephukpong2287 2 роки тому +37

      @@goldenseal640 yep..... The same illogical writing trash by some of these GW authors

  • @muneirovalibas6194
    @muneirovalibas6194 2 роки тому +35

    Its quite something to note that the Custodes designs are more similar to Eldar, especially the helmets, compared to the rest of Imperium's forces.

  • @donovanthedbzlover576
    @donovanthedbzlover576 2 роки тому +18

    The custodians is basically a bunch of 40k main characters put in a group and given op weapons

  • @devonchin94
    @devonchin94 Рік тому +14

    A pretty neat tidbit of information I haven't seen anyone pick up on yet, is that the 300 Companions who closely bodyguard the Emperor, is a direct analogue to Alexander the Great and his 300 Companion Cavalry. They weren't bodyguards per-se, but they were his elite unit that he personally rode into battle with. They were the Hammer to the rest of his army's Anvil (as Alexander used to call that tactic). Regarded as the worlds first Shock Cavalry. I love the reference, it's very fitting.

  • @heerathandi9938
    @heerathandi9938 2 роки тому +7

    dude i'm honestly thankful, you decided to do full videos, if i had to watch one more majorkill video i was gonna rip my ears off my head

  • @alangreene5776
    @alangreene5776 2 роки тому +21

    During the Horus Heresy, tons of "SCP"s escaped the dark cells. Theyre now roaming the galaxy, god knows what theyre doing. And keep in mind, some of them was captured by the emperor himself due to no one else can fight or comprehend

    • @bluewingedknight7762
      @bluewingedknight7762 2 роки тому

      Are we talking about the Void Dragon of Mars, aka the rouge C’Tan shard?

    • @alangreene5776
      @alangreene5776 2 роки тому

      @@bluewingedknight7762 Its still on mars, im talking about incomrehensible reality bending anomalies and such.

    • @kaisersloth5524
      @kaisersloth5524 19 днів тому

      @@alangreene5776such as ?

  • @ivylt1274
    @ivylt1274 2 роки тому +36

    The dark prison cells underneath the palace houses the most dangerous of beings in the universe. Sounds like a place Trayzn would see as a treasure trove.

    • @battlemole8233
      @battlemole8233 Місяць тому +1

      Trazyn gigling like child sneaking trough the prison humming mission imposible theme

    • @thejanusproject32
      @thejanusproject32 Місяць тому

      Couldn't they just kill them? i mean, keeping them sounds...painful.

  • @calebcollins5887
    @calebcollins5887 2 роки тому +27

    Valdors insight is truly sad as it left me feeling like he still has his emotions to a degree, but blunted, or at least the understanding of what he should be feeling. He has some emotions but he seems trapped. I hope this gets explored more as the Custodies have honor and rage too, it seems that they are the emperors most horrendous accomplishment as they lose a lot of what makes them human.

  • @khylerbane4523
    @khylerbane4523 2 роки тому +13

    “No one can tell them what to do.”
    Not for the High Lords, Ecclesiarchy, the inquisitions and even (to an extent) Robutes lack of trying.

  • @rhealitystudios
    @rhealitystudios 5 місяців тому +3

    omg that picture of the two Custodies playing video games with the Emps corpse. Brilliant.

  • @omarbradely6134
    @omarbradely6134 2 роки тому +51

    @Weshammer
    A small lore error is this video from 14:00 to 14:07 you talk about a specific verse from 'Watchers of the Throne: The Golden Legion' from Chapter 2 (Valerian).
    Alexei Lev Tieron was the Cancellarius Senatorum Imperialis (Chancellor of the Council of the High Lords of Terra/Chancellor of the Imperial Council) was NOT a High Lord of Terra. The position simply oversaw the Council, the Cancellarius Senatorum Imperialis did NOT hold the authority of vote nor engage in any other duties or enjoy privillages such as a High Lord of Terra, he simply was a bureaucrat, the chief bureaucrat actually of the Senatorum Imperialis.
    Another example to wrap this around someone's head would be, that the Speaker of a Legislative Assembly is NOT a member of that legislation assembly he is an appointee for overseeing the assembly.

  • @BigLu5741
    @BigLu5741 2 роки тому +6

    You have to do a part 2. Your telling of the lore has made me full deep dive into all aspects of 40k. Thank you for content. It's helped me alot through tough times recently

  • @PresidentFunnyValentine
    @PresidentFunnyValentine 2 роки тому +98

    I want to see more about the Sisters of Silence next!
    Like, why are they always portrayed alongside the Custodies!

    • @waynegoddard4065
      @waynegoddard4065 2 роки тому +31

      They fight with them because they create a psychic shield due to them being blanks/pariahs.

    • @ting4758
      @ting4758 2 роки тому +5

      Also because of fanfiction

    • @thedevourer.
      @thedevourer. 2 роки тому +22

      They fought beside the custodes before the fan fiction stuff.
      There is a reason Valdor is creating an army of blanks , its one of the.most effective weapons against chaos

    • @omarbradely6134
      @omarbradely6134 2 роки тому +24

      The Anathema Psykana (Sisters of Silence) and the Adeptus Custodes form the an organization called the Talons of the Emperor.
      Now the Anathema Psykana does operate in a manner that no member of the public is to see them (Example: Watchers of the Throne: The Golden Legion, Chapter 3 and 6 ' Aleya') , whereas the Custodian Guard are not mandated by any form of directive regarding such in a decent number of circumstances. (Example: Watchers of the Throne: The Golden Legion, Chapter 8 'Valerian').
      The Custodian Guard form the apical (highest) defense mechanism of the Imperial Palace as one of their duties. Though they do have a moderate degree of psychic resistance, they are incapable of truly making a difference against major and moderate psychic players. The Anathema Psykana forming of women with the Pariah Gene effectively blank out psychic powers around them. They by themselves are not fully capable of protecting the Throne in terms of physical capability. So the Talons of the Emperor are effectively a coalition in that behalf, where the Custodian Guard act as the primary defenders while the Sisters of Silence offering psychic shielding (which is exteremly deadly against daemons or any immaterum spawn for that matter) and as a secondary force.
      Some other trivia, the Anathema Psykana also mans the dreaded black ships that take away psykers to be sacrificed to keep the Astronomicon and the Golden Throne running.

    • @waynegoddard4065
      @waynegoddard4065 2 роки тому

      @@omarbradely6134 yeah man.

  • @chriscr21
    @chriscr21 Рік тому +6

    The Grey Nights were designed based on the Custodes, but just for Deamon Hunters, loyalty to the Emperor, and Man-Kind, is a pretty massive trait. This is why the originals were chosen so carefully by Malcador, from both loyal and Traitor Legions. Great video breakdown.

  • @chrisrodgers855
    @chrisrodgers855 2 роки тому +10

    The custodian was feeling the blessing of Khorne that would corrupt any living thing into a blood rage. It is those who control it with martial prowess and honor that climb the ladder in Khorne’s hierarchy. But the Custodies are immune to this and unaware of this aura of chaos. Those confused him what the feeling was.

  • @M4TTISM
    @M4TTISM 2 роки тому +12

    Great video, and loved that you mentioned the blood games.
    To add to how much of a badass Valdor is, he has 1932 names
    Can't wait for him to fully return

  • @wiggy5209
    @wiggy5209 2 роки тому +4

    This was a great deep dive, no put on voices or slow speaking and pauses....sounds just like someone chatting to you down the local store, subscribed

  • @Demothones
    @Demothones 2 роки тому +65

    I think that deep down Valdor regretted having to kill the Primarch. It’s not something he would ever acknowledge, even to himself but I think it was there. There is a great deal of conflict between the Emperor’s words and deeds. Guilliman recognizes this but he doesn’t have thousands of years of indoctrination to suppress it. Valdor has to see it too but he does have the indoctrination. It’s a kind of enforced cognitive dissonance and I think it troubles Valdor at some level.

    • @marley_1267
      @marley_1267 2 роки тому

      I would love to see Cossie come back and beat up Mortarion, absolutely devestate that moth...

    • @kaspersalomonssonlundin7843
      @kaspersalomonssonlundin7843 Рік тому +2

      Sorry to burst your bubble but he doesn’t regret it at all. The custodes are pretty much biologically incapable of feeling emotion like a sociopath but 10 ft tall with golden armor

    • @theophrastusbombastus1359
      @theophrastusbombastus1359 Рік тому +1

      ​@@kaspersalomonssonlundin7843 Incapable of doubt or regret

  • @cowboy83ful
    @cowboy83ful 2 роки тому +40

    Wasn't a fan of the flashy shorts, but this long format dive into a faction -- fleshing them out and giving their lore an enticing worldview for people entering the Universe.. mm. Magnificent.
    Great work dude, looking forward to more!

    • @g0dzilla_au
      @g0dzilla_au 2 роки тому

      Hey he's just keeping up with the times and promoting his channel in the most effective way. I'm grateful to find that he actually does longform content too.

    • @Integritys_Sum
      @Integritys_Sum Рік тому

      Both, both are good

  • @gwilym1991
    @gwilym1991 2 роки тому +5

    Always found it funny that in Argel Tal's metaphor he picks the ONE big cat species that famously hunts in groups in regards to the solitary nature of the Custodes. Tiger was right there.

  • @alexpaul4144
    @alexpaul4144 Рік тому +2

    Rat’s story is always my fav an really showed the emperor did care. Those conversations on foresight are some of my fav in any serises

  • @chainsawboy2388
    @chainsawboy2388 Рік тому +8

    As someone brand new the the universe of 40k before this video I saw the Custodes as just big boys in golden armor who are the best of the best of the best of humanity, after this video I feel way more emotion than I ever would’ve thought, that final confrontation between Valdor and Ushotan was really depressing and paints the emperor in a who new light negative light other than the whole bad dad thing.

    • @huntercurts9998
      @huntercurts9998 Рік тому +1

      Big E is a complicated character and that’s why I really like his character

    • @Integritys_Sum
      @Integritys_Sum Рік тому

      ​@@huntercurts9998I don't see how he is "Complicated" ?

    • @huntercurts9998
      @huntercurts9998 Рік тому +2

      @@Integritys_Sum despite coming off often cold and often uncaring, however he has shown that he does genuinely care about some people and humanity as a whole at least in his own way. He has shown he be just as caring as he is cold. He is reflection of humanity, capable of great kindness just as he is capable of great cruelty. To describe him as good or evil is futile as like humanity as species he isn’t good or bad he simply is.

  • @Lepas_Lepinhas
    @Lepas_Lepinhas 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you dude, u are responsable for me getting into Warhammer 40K Universe thanks to your short videos and now I'm here, great job and Keep with the good work!

  • @elbidaloca1391
    @elbidaloca1391 2 роки тому +4

    I love your longer videos. That last part really gave me the chills, congrats!

  • @kingofwhispers
    @kingofwhispers Рік тому

    I love how your disassemble every inch of warhammer 40k, its very soothing and i'd urge you keep up the good work

  • @MrInzombia
    @MrInzombia 2 роки тому +59

    I mean theres nothing the custodes could do. A chaos powered Horus was knocking at the door. Even sanguinius lost his life tryna stop him. Only the emperor at that point could save himself.

  • @siikaiz
    @siikaiz 2 роки тому +3

    1:48 Guarding a corpse eh? well, you wouldn't mind me giving the Inquisition a call eh?

  • @SSC604
    @SSC604 Рік тому +7

    First time I heard about the Custodians in Warhammer 40K I thought "Oh they have a branch of janitor space marines", then I learned that they are the strongest fighting force for mankind. In my mind Ill always think of them as the janitor space marines though...

  • @goliathead
    @goliathead Рік тому +1

    You do a great job breaking down all of the minutae of the universe while keeping the upbeat vibe that manges to keep the narration outside of the realm of monotone narration. Keep it up man.

  • @animemanXLK
    @animemanXLK Рік тому +3

    One part I always loved about the custodes is while their in the imperial webway fighting back the endless hordes of chaos daemons trying to breach into the throne room. They literally fight for weeks on end . Like never stopping to rest eat or anything just hundreds of hours of non stop killing and their spears described as whirling like rotor blades and when they finally get a brief respite from the fighting some of them are described as having ruined faces. in some cases is just a bit of brain and eyeball with the skull beig long since destroyed and these guys are still able to fight for hours or possibly even days before their injuries finally catch up with them.

  • @iloveplayingpr
    @iloveplayingpr 2 роки тому +6

    'God-Emperor? Calling him a god was how all this mess started.' -Bjorn the Fell-Handed

  • @ohamatchhams
    @ohamatchhams 2 роки тому +27

    Thunder Warriors conversation with Custodes is one of the most humanist and anti-nihilistic side of Warhammer 40K, it's too bad that it's difficult to expand further with current limitations of Wargaming platforms, or maybe it's just better the presentations stays in Codex prints and black library, well as long as they keep having higher-grade writers in GW products, nonetheless I wonder how "the end times" will be done in 40K, will it be like Age of Sigmar? Will it be worse? or will it be better?

  • @BestJust_Steve
    @BestJust_Steve 2 роки тому +3

    I haven’t finished listening to the video yet, but this maybe your best work yet. Incredibly well researched, thoughtfully scripted with a vocal execution that drives home the absolute amazement that is the Adeptus Custodes. In my opinion this appears as a heartily crafted labor of love. Well done, I look forward to your next entry regardless of the subject.

  • @firewarrior5828
    @firewarrior5828 2 роки тому +20

    To become a Space Marine is to become Greater than yourself, to be become a Grey Knight is to become a Legend of the Imperium, to become a Custodes Is to become something of Myth among all mankind.

  • @razorsrequiem
    @razorsrequiem 7 місяців тому +2

    "Even Chapter Masters would have to bend a knee. . ."
    Logan Grimnar: "Boy, hold my Mjod."

  • @Aervida
    @Aervida 2 роки тому +13

    Really well written, great narration and your voice is perfectly suited for this kind of story telling. I love these long videos, keep them coming :)

  • @jaywatkins7680
    @jaywatkins7680 3 місяці тому +1

    The depth of scale of 40k is what draws me in, never played a single 40k game or even cared about it till the space marine 2 trailer and I’m like “oh yeah I’m finna buy that” and have been learning up. Definitely not disappointed in the lore🙏🏾

  • @miguelperez9906
    @miguelperez9906 2 роки тому +8

    I really think some of the eyes of the emperor (custodes who are even just a second slower just a touch weaker abd have to quit there guard roll) should become part of the personal guard of Dante. It would fit multiple goals for the emperor. 1) it would strengthen the bulwark holding back the enemy’s of man kind in nihilis kept at bat by the warden of nihilis through physical aid and the vast knoledge the custodes have. 2) it would work as a fail safe in case Dante would ever get any heretical traitorous ideas (yea I know Dante would never be a traitor under any circumstance but the custodes distrust space marines) . 3 they would serve as a direct link between the dark half of the imperium and the throne world itself guaranteeing that nihilis is always working in lock step twords the goals of the emperor. Plus it fits with the lore perfectly.

  • @SmilayBros
    @SmilayBros 2 роки тому +2

    Hey, Wes! I love these longer videos bro. Keep em coming. I listen to these while I try to sleep (not that they're boring, but it's so calming and chill for some reason lol).

  • @udp1073
    @udp1073 2 роки тому +4

    The best line from Valerian, that put the Custodian in a very interesting perspective, it is that they, the Custodian, have been built with a prey in mind.. the Custodes are, as you said, an Apex Predator, designed to predate upon an "herd", even a very dangerous one, the Space Marines (it is in the second book eith Valerian and Aleya if I am not wrong)..

  • @theradthadd7522
    @theradthadd7522 Рік тому +1

    The Legio/Adeptus Custodes are my all-time favorite faction/army/lore of all Warhammer 40K. Recently, I've started collecting models. Slowly painting them as if I am hand-crafting them myself. I've also gone as far as beginning to name each non-named piece and to document them in a little book I have. Each time I play a miniwar game with them, and if one falls, I'm sure I will feel regret, pain, and maybe a tiny fraction of what the Emperor feels when he utilizes them for battle/defense. I love your content, Wes. I've followed you from TikTok, and you are fantastic at describing the accounts and giving us your take and thoughts on them.

  • @NoSoulJoel177
    @NoSoulJoel177 2 роки тому +27

    Question 1: Do you think the Imperator Somnium is still operational and not destroyed? because it was never stated that the Emperor's flagship was destroyed just bombarded by multiple of Horus' ships and it's ultimate fate unknown. If Big-E's flagship is still functional where would you think it would be? And what do you think about it in general as it is a continent sized? I'd say Africa sized
    Question 2: With Dan Abnett talking about something huge that is going to happen in the Eisenhorn series, and the fact that Valdor was name dropped and there's the King in Yellow who is accompanied by Custodes, Astartes, and Blanks whose goal is to discover the Emperor's True Name, and has been implied to be Valdor or Dorn(mostly by Valrak) what do you think is going to happen?
    I'm open to any replies because I am thoroughly confuzzled by these questions

    • @dwaynewrighton8547
      @dwaynewrighton8547 2 роки тому +2

      I like to think the imperator somnium was grounded to terra; and has gone on to form an extension to the imperial Palace (or maybe even IS the imperial palace; an emporer in the height of the golden age of technology would surely travel in a mobile fortress)

    • @NoSoulJoel177
      @NoSoulJoel177 2 роки тому

      @@dwaynewrighton8547 makes sense the Emperator Somnium was basically just the Sanctum Imperialis but for space travel

    • @valentinblue1952
      @valentinblue1952 2 роки тому +1

      Its destroyed. The Siege of Terra book where the Dark Angels under Corswain reach Terra states it. The Custodes on the ship decided to sacrifice it to enable the DA to retake the Astronomican. Just as they landed the Ship exploded due to the fire of several Battleships

    • @NoSoulJoel177
      @NoSoulJoel177 2 роки тому +1

      @@valentinblue1952 aight cool, thanks for replying😁

    • @jbird3214
      @jbird3214 2 роки тому +1

      king in yellow I valdor.....he's creating an army ;)

  • @jakkobraamse7131
    @jakkobraamse7131 7 місяців тому +1

    i really like hearing these storys. Being in my fortys i dont think i will ever fully get the whole 40K universe but listning to this like an audiobook atleast gives me some insight into the vast universe

  • @goldenseal640
    @goldenseal640 2 роки тому +5

    Ngl nobody has done custode lore this good except majorkill but he is memer

  • @eddmacatbag2219
    @eddmacatbag2219 2 роки тому +1

    Man, the ending for the video is POETIC. I've been enjoying the short reels but watched this video and I am hooked

  • @korhanaydemir8366
    @korhanaydemir8366 2 роки тому +6

    Dude, your the best loretuber. I love your perspective.

  • @amazinggman4353
    @amazinggman4353 2 роки тому

    Here from a short I just watched. I swear I never started caring about warhammer till started coming onto your shorts and you make it so interesting.

  • @Zenphoshen
    @Zenphoshen 2 роки тому +12

    These longer videos are great. The lore, the way you tell it, adding your own flair. Making it something digestible and incredibly thought provoking.
    All of your content from shorts to the longer form are great.
    Each video is incredibly enjoyable and I often come back and rewatch numerous videos just because they are enjoyable to watch.
    Keep up the great work my dude. Seeing a notification that you posted a new video always brings a smile to my face.
    I really love the Grey Knights, the Blood Angels and The Sisters of Battle.
    My favorite Primarch of course being Golden Boi Sanguinius.
    I am still holding out hope that Sanguinius will make a return when the Big E himself fully ascends to Godhood or at least is shown in that form.
    We have a character like Saint Celestine who is a Living Saint that has come back from death numerous times.
    She's also a favorite. Something about Angels and smiting the ever loving hell out shit just tickles a fancy.

  • @c-lo_g446
    @c-lo_g446 2 роки тому +1

    I'm subbed.
    Your long form videos are actually so much more exciting than the small bites!
    Thank your for taking the time for both!

  • @henryheavy8044
    @henryheavy8044 2 роки тому +19

    12:23 and yet somehow the guy never saw his sons screwing over him coming in the first place or that maybe perhaps using people as tools and discarding them when they’ve served their purpose may have made them bitter and resentful towards him

    • @licensed_beheader
      @licensed_beheader 2 роки тому +1

      Chaos was the wrench that screwed up everything he could mind bomb three entire legions and primarchs with minimum effort it's just that the mark of chaos was protecting the traitors and the effort for keeping the webway closed was eating at him , malcador wasn't even a quarter as powerful as the emperor yet he nearly killed pre chaos horus with minimum effort jaghatai had to beg malcador to stop Vader choking horus . Chaos messed everything up .

    • @henryheavy8044
      @henryheavy8044 2 роки тому

      @@licensed_beheader sounds a lot like gw writing fuckups and excuses rather then actual lore exploration

  • @MasterChiefNumberOnE
    @MasterChiefNumberOnE Рік тому

    Wow! Your music is always on point, especially at the end when Valdor confirms to the dying man that there is nothing there for him. At that moment, the music is both crushing and emotional, so I sat in my chair pondering for a few moments.

  • @adriancooper78
    @adriancooper78 2 роки тому +4

    I'm in to the lore. AND you've read some of book that are associated with the lore and the game of WH40K. Thank you for your hard work. This is really really good explaination of the lore. And your down to earth style of delivery is extraordinary.
    Also, YOU have your own style and the world need to see it. I remember that story about with Constantine Valor yeah I was moved by that too...

  • @ericbrown-yq2ey
    @ericbrown-yq2ey 2 роки тому +4

    Guarded by the strongest armor of all...
    Solid Plotonium

  • @SeeJay804
    @SeeJay804 2 роки тому +1

    Probably the best Custodes lore vid I've seen on UA-cam, and I've watched a lot lol.

  • @abdulhaseebsaggu683
    @abdulhaseebsaggu683 2 роки тому +7

    Please do one on Thunder Warriors, please. They sound dope.

  • @erickramos9762
    @erickramos9762 15 днів тому

    Hey just wanted to say your deep dives even from two years ago are great!!! Always looking forward to more 💪

  • @norscout3031
    @norscout3031 6 місяців тому +19

    Bro there's always been female custodes, I can't believe you didn't mention them in this smh

  • @devilmaycry265
    @devilmaycry265 Рік тому

    Listening to this puting together my first custodes combat patrol! I appreciate you!

  • @SecretSource80
    @SecretSource80 2 роки тому +26

    Henry Cavil brought me here

  • @landisdeathly1305
    @landisdeathly1305 2 роки тому +2

    Bro you should do audio books you've got the voice and the last part of this video proved that.
    Beautiful video man keep up the great work.

  • @EdBurke37
    @EdBurke37 2 роки тому +24

    I can't remember where I read this quote but I it really hits the difference between Astartes and Custodes:
    "The Astartes fight like wolves. The Custodes fight like lions."

    • @EdBurke37
      @EdBurke37 2 роки тому

      @Bjornen av Vest Thank you

  • @dominicchetcuti5704
    @dominicchetcuti5704 2 роки тому +1

    Mate I’m loving these long-form videos.
    You have made me want to start collecting and playing. I’ve narrowed the choice of army that I will collect down to four, would love a video on them to help me decide.
    1. Thousand Sons (I think the psychic stuff is really cool).
    2. Dark Angels (love the look of the hoods)
    3. Space Wolves (big fan of the show Vikings)
    4. Grey Knights
    Keep up the great work!

  • @OrbitStrike
    @OrbitStrike Рік тому +3

    As someone who loves long-form lore videos, you are the very best creator! I love your positivity, great tempo and everything is interesting with no filler! Great job Wes! much love from the UK 🇬🇧

  • @GilgameshGDLK
    @GilgameshGDLK Рік тому

    I don't play WH but spent years selling the merch in 2 separate LGSes ... and I LOVE the lore. Finding this stuff on UA-cam is always exciting.

  • @Junglehunter677
    @Junglehunter677 Рік тому +4

    The reason the custodes were mourning, was because they failed to protect the Emperor adequately during the final battle of the Horus Heresy which lead to the Emperor being mortally wounded

  • @ZJtraylor
    @ZJtraylor 2 роки тому +2

    Your description of the Custodes reminds me of my grand father who was a combat vet in the Green Berets and became a very successful forensic scientist after. I see him as super bad ass for the same reasons lol.

  • @dc-101
    @dc-101 2 роки тому +5

    My abs are quivering with exitement

  • @JoshdaKnight
    @JoshdaKnight 2 роки тому +1

    Honestly, Wes, nobody conveys the emotion of 40k like you do.

  • @im2randomghgh
    @im2randomghgh 2 роки тому +7

    As far as your armour question, Custodes armour does seem to be better than Primarch armour! Primarchs generally have heavily upgraded and modified space marine gear, whereas Custodes armour seem to be packed with DAoT tech. Valdor's novel shows that their armour doesn't require a black carapace, that it enmeshes with them at a deeper level than power armour, that it increases the strength of the weather directly rather than using pistons and that the helmet had advanced targetting systems that shows trajectories of incoming rounds, sees through walls, assesses threat levels etc.

    • @ronanchristiana.belleza9270
      @ronanchristiana.belleza9270 2 роки тому +1

      can you explain more Simple? Sorry for my Low Understanding

    • @im2randomghgh
      @im2randomghgh 2 роки тому +3

      @@ronanchristiana.belleza9270 Primarch armour is like space marine armour. It connects with huge metal plugs. Custodes armour connects perfectly without that. It also lets them see through walls, see where their bullets will land, and tells them how dangerous their enemies are. Is that clear?

  • @ryanrose9786
    @ryanrose9786 2 роки тому +2

    If, and only if, I was depressed enough to start this faction. (Night Lord's is the closest I'll get to anything in power armor).
    There is only one way to go.
    Replace all weapons with mops. Helmets with buckets (googly eyes for added character).
    The janitorial custodes.
    Battle cry
    We'll mop the floor with ya!

  • @xstera3728
    @xstera3728 2 роки тому +3

    All of the primarchs either are using artificer/mastercrafted/auramite Suit of armor that was made by another primarch or by themselves. They have the authority to have as much auramite as they need and had access to the emporers forge to make their own stuff.

  • @andrewbaer2820
    @andrewbaer2820 11 місяців тому

    I always loved that Ushotan was able to hold his own against the greatest Custodian to ever live and that I think Valdor liked and respected him

  • @robfeatch2621
    @robfeatch2621 2 роки тому +16

    Quick question I have looked online and have found no information about the subject , the question being why did the emperor need thunder warriors if he had the custodes, if like you said weshammer a custodes is 100 X the worth of a space marine and assuming they where at 10000 strong at the time of the unification wars the emperor had effectively 10 legions so why would he bother with thunder warriors if in the end he's gonna murder them and waste so much time and effort ?

    • @weshammer
      @weshammer  2 роки тому +20

      From what I understand the custodians were not enough. They were incredibly powerful of course but it took an incredibly long time to produce a single one. He needed something that was powerful and efficient and could be created much faster. You could probably create a thousand thunder Warriors in the time it took you to make one custodian.
      Additionally, they were the precursors to the Space Marines and this is really important. They were a stepping stone to get to the astartes we know today. The emperor always had plans for conquering the entire galaxy. So he was putting things into motion to make that happen thousands of years before the grand crusade even began to materialize. So he was working on these Mass produced super soldiers not only to aid in the unification wars but more importantly, their numbers would be needed for uniting all of the human worlds under the Imperium's banners

    • @robfeatch2621
      @robfeatch2621 2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the reply weshammer appreciate it

    • @thedevourer.
      @thedevourer. 2 роки тому +3

      Back when the emperor made the thunder warriors the custodes never even had power armour and it took ages to make one custodes.
      By my understanding he needed a shock troops and fast hence why their genes were really unstable cause they were rushed prototypes designed to bring terra to heel while he worked on the astrates who were designed to bring the galaxy to heel

    • @omarbradely6134
      @omarbradely6134 2 роки тому +3

      Rob when Wes makes that metaphor "A Custodian is worth a Hundred Astartes who are worth a Hundred Soldiers each" it meant to be rhetorical and not lore accurate. It is like.. Filler conversation for the lack of a better word.
      Can the warriors of Golden Legion match up against a squad of Astartes? Yes and no. There are examples of both in the lore. If you look at Chapter 2 'Valerian' from Watchers of the Throne: The Golden Legion, Valerian clearly admits that when fighting against space marines, their kind i.e. the Custodian Guard had to be careful, especially against Chaos Astartes who had powers of the Immaterium as well as being from the origin of real space.
      Could you deploy a shield company of custodes to capture a planet? Yes. But that would heavily drain the Imperium if the Golden Legion was deployed en masse. Even producing a Custodes and his upkeep was a massive task with segments of the Imperial Palace dedicated to training, living, studying, and recruitment.
      It was decided that it was a much better idea logistically and economically, to send in millions of Imperial Guardsmen complemented by a Company or more of Astartes. And deploy legions en masse in dire circumstances such as those of Gyros-Tharavian.
      In a 100 v 1000 battle of standard Custodiand and Veteran Astartes, the Astartes would win simply due to their firepower. Both the Adeptus Astartes and then the Legio Custodes (in whatever offensive aspect required) were meant for tactical and and swift strikes, retrievals and missions. They were NOT meant for wars of attrition. A great example is the War in the Webway, which lasted about 5 years (which is measely by war hammer standards) and drained the Custodian Guard from its estimated numbers of Ten Thousand to about One Thousand.
      The thunder warriors were meant to be slightly weaker but much cheaper to produce by several orders of magnitude. There were many stages in the Unification Wars which came down to who could throw in more firepower and expend more warriors.

    • @ShadowGhost0117
      @ShadowGhost0117 2 роки тому +1

      Because the Custodes were never designed to be used as a conquering army. They were everything but soldiers (yes they were taught warfare but they were bodyguards, scholars, poets, artists, politicians, philosophers, etc, anything except soldiers).
      Now I know that this definition sounds like what Roman legionaries were like (and to a point that’s true) but the job of conquering like the Thunder Warriors and Space Marines did was the one task that the Emperor never intended his Custodes to do.

  • @PHEONYX79
    @PHEONYX79 2 роки тому +1

    Exceptionally well made video my friend, as exceptional as the custodes themselves

  • @TheTribunate
    @TheTribunate 2 роки тому +7

    You mention that a Custodian would be sensitive enough to not anger or upset an inquisitor, except this is exactly what the custodian in the book "Carrion Throne" did to the main inquisitor character, he laughed in his face when the inquisitor attempted to wield "the will of the throne" against him.