Headcannon: The rock and roll noise marines are how they start. How the Emperors Children noise marines originally looked like and how new noise marines decorate themselves when they first begin their song. The more horrific version is what they eventually become.
Honestly, it would make sense. Over time, when you become more addicted to sensory overload, it would make sense due that their appearances over time would warp and mutate.
I like it, similar to my head cannon... Rock and Roll are the OG Emperor's children and the Dubstep is the newer Slaneshi Marines like the scouts during the fall or the ones who were early in recruitment. Your head cannon is very concise though, I think I'll let it compete for head cannon top spot.
For me as a metalhead my headcannon is these guys are how "mainstream/popular" metal over the years, became much darker and heavier over the years/decades than in the 80s, it's nearly spot on lol
Whoever created the noise marines in 40K lore did ALL the psychedelic's they possibly could. Straight up astronaut in the writing room and loving every minute of it. I respect it! Another great vid Wes and I'll be grabbin a shirt for sure!
I love that the "apology" at the start of the video is that you say everything is your favorite. Your passion and joy for this universe is infectious, and these videos are a highlight for me
It also works in-lore too: they were, at first, more fancy and with guitars (30K) but after many years, they devolved into this horrific nightmare (40K)
I actually painted my noise marine based EC's to look like they're in between the two. Purpley Pink with a dark Ruddy gold and black accents. I use the guitar minis for the blast master models
Honestly, as an artist, I find the noise marines to be one of the most tragic factions in warhammer. It's so easy to see how Slaanesh could corrupt the dreams and ambitions of so many people
Absolutely. After learning about Fulgrim's upbringing on a world without art and culture, the importance to him of creating a society on Chemos where those things exist (and his success in doing so), and his love of art during his time as a true Primarch... it makes his fall even sadder. As a lifelong musician who was raised in a family of artists and musical folk, I feel for Fulgrim and those who have fallen to Slaanesh. I didn't ever think about this before, but: in a universe so dark and cruel, where countless human beings live in hunger and squalor without ever seeing the sun, where their only music is the sound of industry and food is purely a matter of survival, the solace of beauty, creativity, and pleasures of the senses sounds irresistible. The simple concept of things most people would never dream of; dreams that will be corrupted the second they take root... Slaanesh could not only corrupt the dreams and ambitions of so many people. In the world of humans in 40k, Slaanesh could take hold of people by simply introducing them to the idea of those dreams and ambitions. I recently learned that Trazyn the Infinite has a perfect clone of Fulgrim in his Museum. A clone with his mind and soul before he fell. Imagine what could happen were the Imperium to acquire him. Not just what that would do to the tabletop game, but how having a being with his qualities and love of the arts would affect the Imperium. Fulgrim quite literally preferred to rule through love, saw nobility in all humans, saw art in the Forge as much as he saw it in more classical places, taught Konrad Curze - a man spurned by nearly all his brothers - to read, and so much more.
@RexytheRexy I've lived and worked on farms my entire life, but all I've ever wanted to do is tell stories and make art, so that resonates an insane amount with me. I didn't know that about Fulgrim, but I agree, that really is painfully tragic. There's also a lot there about people who have been lost to drugs, alcohol, etc. How the level of what they need keeps getting ever higher, and they ultimately destroy everything and everyone they used to love simply because their need for feeling has resulted in them feeling nothing, without greater and greater highs. And in they end, they're left with nothing, not even an understanding of how they got to where they are, or where they're going. Just emptiness. It's indescribably awful to witness it happening to people Edit: I can tell by your use of language you're a musical person, and one who cares deeply for people. I hope you're able to achieve your dreams, without Slaanesh getting involved
Immediate thumbs up for Dr. Rockzo reference. 🤣 Edit: After watching the whole thing, I appreciate that you see the tragedy of their fall. I've found the novel "Fulgrim" to be the saddest of 40k fiction. Also, excellent reading of the Maraviglia passage.
Saddest? I liked the novel, was first book I read from WH40K and loved the opera in la fenice(forgot the name now) but how can you feel sorry for him, he's an arrogant, self righteous arsehole. I'm not arguing, everyone had different feelings etc, in just curious how you could feel sorry for him, fulgrim welcomed his downfall
Adeptus Ridiculous had an art contest a few months back (or maybe last year?). They asked the audience to draw an Imperial Knight and make up their own Knight Houses. One of the submissions was a Slaanesh corrupted pilot that took the Noise Marine concept to the next level by using his knight as a heavy metal stage complete with lights and lasers. One of the artworks of all time if you ask me^^ And btw, noise boise needed some dedicated attention for sure. Loremasters tend to overlook them.🤘☠🤘
The fact that the Emperors Children getting corrupted by Slaanesh has always seemed like the greatest form of irony. Like if you told Fulgrim and his purple bois they would fall to depraved corruption, they'd probably kill ya. Also the face in the dark with that sister is genuinely f*cking terrifying. Amazing vid as per usual Wes, ur deep dives give me life my guy!
@@g.c.4824 Space Marine heroes the blind box models not a TV series. So far they've mostly been loyalists but they did an awesome Death Guard set. That said, a emperors children centric series on Warhammer + would also be cool.
“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery. There were a few Emperor's Children that have achieved "perfection". It's sad that so many missed that mark.
@@Archon3960Oh, they are. They are so selfish, they cannot bare the thought of doing anything for the Gods. They truly do it for their own fun, for their own hatred of the species that gave them a purpose, and hated them for their purpose.
I think it would be cool if both types of noise marine canonically existed, and had their own internal conflict over aesthetic and "music" tastes just like the real-world rivalry between electronic music fans and nostalgic metal-heads
When I first heard (ha) about the Noise Marines, I honestly thought they were a meme faction created by the 40K community. As I dived into the wiki and realized not only are they canon, they are one of the most terrifying Chaos Marines I think exist
That was heavy. I actually just finished the Fulgrim novel depicting the nightmare concert and the description of it was truly mesmerizing and horrifying.
Noise Marines were the reasons I started Warhammer at all, many years ago. I'm obsessed with them (and Slaanesh in general). There is nothing I didn't already know about them in the video, but I'm grateful that you not only touched every aspect that other UA-camrs missed, but at the end, were I was about to declare your video a good one even for a hard fan like me, you ended up reading my favourite scene in all Warhammer books. I'm touched, fantastic video.
I'm not huge into WH40k, but the Noise Marines have been a chapter that's bounced around in my mind for years. I really really appreciate this deep dive! The origin of the Noise Marines, the real-world cultural influences, and their tragic dedication that warps them are all really cool. The Myth of Perfection section was a really cool watch and listen. I would love to see you make more content about them - especially considering your wicked new merch!
8:38 Noise marines from the other chaos gods actually makes a lot of sense. Nurgle often infects with sad corrupting songs and bells are part of his motif, tzeench’s would be casting many spells and speaking in warping tongues, their weapons would release a chorus of whispering blaspheming voices that consume swaths of the battlefield in warp fire and change, and khorn followers are often described are screaming louder than their bolters and deafening those nearby with their bellow and stuff, so his noise marines would just shout out loud barks and yells that manifest as concussive waves of force that smash everything before them.
I LOVE the Kakophoni of the Emperors Children, Marius Vairosean is my favorite, he embodies the Noise Marines and their horror more than anyone in my opinion 🔥
@@venerablebrothergoriate5844 Isn't he the one who ran into radioactive fire to save an apothecary, said "I think I'll die now", and keeled over instantly?
That last quote you read, maybe it's just me, but it almost felt like in his final moments, Elian tapped into his humanity one last time. Not for hedonism, or desire or addiction, but for his brothers. Yes, he's a monster for slaanesh but something within him was still a man, a man with love, compassion and a desire to help and support. He outwardly was a monster, but internally, in his last moments he found peace in his OWN song. And i think maybe thats why the demons almost bid him farewell, maybe they felt sympathy for him and comforted him in death for being a loyal servant and for blessing them with a song of his own. Almost like Hades in the story of Orpheus, who cried when he heard Orpheus play a song about Eurydice, because for the first time in his existence he understood human emotion and love in a way a immortal being could never understand.
The Emperor's Children's pursuit of perfection is like the math concept of an asymptote. A line that a curve approaches, but can never reach. The further along the line you go, the closer the curve gets, but never touches.
I've watched this 3 times and gotta say love the dedication you put into your work Wes, genuinely love to see it as most other either seem to take it as a joke which is okay or be as dark and serious as the series, you find that sweet spot in-between and even though you seem to get a bit or a rough patch here and there in life glad to always see a upload from you as it always makes bad weeks better so just wanna say thank you for being the king of 40k lore cant wait for the other projects in the works
Such a great analysis and video. Slaanesh and the Noise Marines weren’t subjects I knew much about but I feel I know so much more after this video. Keep up the great work!
Finally, I've been waiting to hear about these suckers for so long. While not my favorite chaos legion, I have a special place in my heart for those that use sound as weapons.
@@alastor8091 Plague Marines. While most people could sum them up as space zombies, the fact that they are attrition fighters as well as embody my fear of "The Thing" levels of body horror is what puts them at the top for me.
The theatre scene is one of my favorite moments from the Heresy. I can only imagine how hard it would be to translate that to live action or animation, should we ever get something like that. I love the Emperor's Children, sick fucks.
@@KillerOrca you don't know anything there's a lot of excessive things you can do after you capture the biggest booties in an entire sector of a galaxy
@@BovineIntervention The sheer size required to appeal to a devotee of She Who Thirsts would require flesh of gravity distorting levels, thar which no mortal can maintain. Normal human booty is simply not enough
Honestly I have always identified with a lot of parts of the Noise Marine's story. I have struggled with addiction in the past and can empathize with getting addicted to the pursuit of excess and also understand the dulling of sensations that used to excite and the seeking out of "more", even to ones own detriment. I know I am glad to be free of the insanity of addiction and seeking the "perfect" high or rush. I am much better nowadays and have been for a long time but I still have to put work in with keeping myself in check once in awhile. Warhammer lore actually has helped get me throw some really tough times in the past tbh. It's a very deep universe and can be very encompassing. Videos like this have literally helped me get through difficult periods of withdrawal in the past for example. Great video! Thanks for sharing.
Used to imagine sound being a legit weapon. I was already a 40K fan and didnt dive that deep into factions I wasn't playing. Got the audio book of the first 5 HH novels and when I heard this was already a realized item HOLY CRAP I knew I had to have at least one of these! Still have yet to paint the official model but he is on my desk
This, this is actually very intense; as it should be. The ending kind of makes you think, I want to believe that the Noise Marine went on to his paradise, and was taken into the Song itself. Also at least generally speaking at least with my version, Marius is pronouced "Marry us".
The current noise marines are disturbing, they're genuinely the only space marine unit that I hate to look at. That's exactly the point and the fact I have that gut reaction is incredible. The og noise marines though look absolutely incredible and have it be one of my favourite designs in 40k. I think both should exist but maybe there can be some sort distinction between them.
Honestly man I’d watch more deep dives of all the primarchs/their legions. I don’t play the table top and just read the books so I get some of these larger than life characters that I’d really love to know more about. As always it’s a pleasure to watch your videos and i appreciate all that you do.
What an amazing video, your videos have gotten me into the lore of 40k more than any other. I'm a fairly new fan but have watched every deep dive, lore, and horror story videos you've made
For how you fight an enemy like that, you'd have to aim to sever tendons and muscles or land a killing blow rather quickly. While they may enjoy having tendons severed, that doesn't mean they'll be able to move them.
THINGS WILL GET LOUD NOW. Seriously though they’ve always been one of my favorite units from the setting, they embody the bonkers over the top aspect of the setting in general and Slaanesh in particular. Equal parts silly and horrifying, that’s 40k baby!
When you said 'join the noise marines as they tour the galaxy...' I thought it was going to have a list on the back like 'Isstvan 3 March 3rd 005.M31' (or however the dates work in 40K).
Great Vid! Fun Fact: The sperm whale is the loudest creature on earth able to generate sounds at 230dB (ear dumbs burst at ~150dB) and it is thought that a sustained sound from one at close proximity could in fact vibrate a person to death.
I love learning about the "lesser known" factions. I wonder if there's enough lore to do a dive into the T'au faux marines? It also makes me wonder if other species have also looted astartes battlefields and made their own version
I do love the faux marines but I'm pretty sure the lore ends at "they made drone astartes from leftover armor". The tau have pretty much written off ever converting space marines to the greater good.
I love 80' glam metal noise maines, but I also think other desings based on diffrent style would be fire. Like eg. Imagine demonic orchestra, hundreds of demonic musicans playing disonant but powerful tuttis. Imagine avangard like winds, warp enchanted brasses, being destruction to enemies and new power to deregned allows, roaring timpanis, strings bringing nightmarish feeling of anguish playing togheter abhorrent symphony of excess and pain, that driffted sobfar from classical beauty...
i've said it before but, as someone who knows nothing and has never played ... I love your videos. Seeing 40k though your eyes is a wonderful experience, making something that seems both ominous and daunting (not merely because the story is 'dark' but because there is so much of said story) - bizarrely delightful. maybe you're just that compelling a story teller! (Because... while you do explain a lot, I think that the thing that keeps me coming back is the way you tell the story of it all) . Regardless Thank you, and I hope you keep making videos for a long time to come.
Awesome video, I think it’s good to point of that the vast majority of Emperors Children aren’t Noise Marines but are “just” chaos space marines. Still horribly mutated, terrifying and deadly but not noise marines Most Emperors children view Noise marines with respect, suspicion or caution and they’re often isolated away from the rest of the Warband like in the Fabius Bile trilogy Most emperors children are standard Chaos space marines who are mutated and mutilated and obsessed with certain things such as pain, pleasure, drugs, art etc and take it to the extreme. A few named examples of “normal” Emperors Children are Oleander Koh, Flavius Alkenex, Merix, Narvo Quin, Lidonius and Gulos Palatides but the vast majority of the 12th compnay were standard emperors children chaos marines
This video pretty much singlehandedly got me through my first few weeks of my current and first job. I would listen to this in my earphones like 5 times during a work day because it brought me so much comfort. You really helped me through a really drastic and stressful part of my life. Thank you
0:17 that's crazy he used a photo of steel panther, I literally just saw them live last weekend and now I'm getting into tabletop 40k and wanna play the emperor's children so I'm watching lore lmao
It's a representative of slanesh that isn't inspired by H.R. Geiger and/ or censored to hell. They show another interesting aspect of slanesh in how pleasure and excess can be weaponized without instantly saying "drugs." Of course I like the noise marines, I wish we had more creative units like them.
It's always a good day when Wes posts a video! I love your content man, your passion has drawn mw into the 40K universe and I haven't regretted it since ^_^ the amount of effort and love for your craft really shows, I salute you sir!!
Wes! As you know I have been on a year long search to find a faction that speaks to me. I was thinking 1000 Sons, but in real life I probably find my Heretical soul with Slanesh. Great Video Wes! Thank you kind soul, I have found my people :)
Love that you're self sponsoring! I also love that just about everything you've covered is "one of your favorite parts of 40k" it's really wholesome. A lot of fandoms struggle with creators always posting "500 things I hate about _____". Keep on favoriting everything you like buddy!
Only Wes can make a video about f***ing space marines the most chewed up lore topic ever and I be like "wait, why don't I know anything of these guys??? How... what? Okay have to watch rn."
Holy shit! I've just discovered these guys like 4 days ago but didn't have the time to read up on their lore. It was one of the worst weeks of my life and this video just fills me with so much serotonin, I can't help but feel like smiling like a retard. Impeccable timing Wes, and amazing video as always!
I dig the side-topic of mentioning real world music trends with the association to Warhammer. Tying in music to a unit associated with earsplitting sounds seems like a no-brainer but it's pulled off so well in the models, especially the "guitar sonic blasters" and their whole color scheme.
Weirdly, something very similar to this actually happened in a 40k role-playing game I was part of. We were an inquisition warband and we had captured a Slaanesh cultist called Barry (don't ask.) We discussed how to interrogate him for a bit, and eventually my character came up with the idea of torturing Barry by locking him in a totally featureless grey room and reading a huge Administratum ledger of the last 200 years' tax returns in a monotone voice over the vox speakers.
In the Fabius book, he talks about how they're one of the most dangerously destructive forces he knows of, their true potential unknown. But ripping apart entire voidships is known, destroying whole celestial bodies, not impossible.
Fun fact: The First Noise Marine, Marius Vairosean, was killed by a deaf Iron Hands terminator. Vairosean: *[uses sonic scream attack, kills a couple iron hands]* Ignatius Numen, deaf Iron Hand: *[TANKS THE HIT, CHARGES VOLKITE CANNON]* “WHAT?! I DIDN’T QUITE CATCH THAT!” *[REDUCES VAIROSEAN TO HIS COMPONENT ATOMS]* This happened in the book Angel Exterminatus.
@@ThirdCydonian yeah. Like, I’m not a huge fan of the Raven Guard, but Lucius got absolutely bitched on by Sharro’Kyn, and I loved every second of that duel.
(As someone who is still not very familiar with WH40K despite watching a couple dozen Weshammer videos) I’d love to see a group of loyalist Noise Marines that exclusively play SABATON style power-metal songs and have armor that is themed accordingly.
So, I watch most videos at 2X speed because ADHD and other such reasons, and this video fits so well with being played at 2X speed that I only noticed it was when I was almost 40 minutes in.
I haven't been into Warhammer 40k for that long, but every time I think it can't get any more brutal and horrific, something like these guys comes along.
Imperial guardsmen and Astartes that are stationed: no warband can defeat us Noise marines: *we are no warband, we.... ARE A MUSIC BAND. HIT IT!* **mickey mouse clubhouse theme song starts playing**
perfectionism is an addiction in that you'll need an ever increasing dose for same effect. All the while increasing the dose become more and more difficult
Great video Wes. I really liked your bit about perfection, I always found that part of Slaanesh a little bit baffling; in my experience perfectionists tend to lead an almost ascetic lifestyle, which goes against the whole hedonistic excess thing of Slaanesh. But as you say there are also plenty of people who become obsessed with perfection and pursue it relentlessly which in turn leads to their ruin. The Emperor's Children really hammer home that one Voltaire quote "perfect is the enemy of good".
That intro was poetic. I should add that every noise marine lore session i go through has me re-evaluate my habits of metal music consumption, to little avail.
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I like the shirt but it's a missed opportunity to put their show locations on the back starting with istvann and ending with holy Terra
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Dude the synthwave style is epic af!!! Hope your break from youtube was good Wes, love to see ya back!
Welcome back Wes
These guys are taking the term warBAND to a whole new level
To the GIRLband level
You gave me mound and blade ptsd
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I didn't know I needed an hour of Noise Marine lore but now I know better
Same here. I was obviously in error.
You guys are too funny
We all need more insight into the "silly" lore of 40k
Don't worry we've all been there at one point or another in our lives but we all get on the right path eventually.
I just clicked this video not knowing how long this video is until 5 min in I see this comment. We’ll I’m stuck now. 😂 😭
Headcannon: The rock and roll noise marines are how they start. How the Emperors Children noise marines originally looked like and how new noise marines decorate themselves when they first begin their song. The more horrific version is what they eventually become.
Honestly, it would make sense. Over time, when you become more addicted to sensory overload, it would make sense due that their appearances over time would warp and mutate.
I like it, similar to my head cannon... Rock and Roll are the OG Emperor's children and the Dubstep is the newer Slaneshi Marines like the scouts during the fall or the ones who were early in recruitment.
Your head cannon is very concise though, I think I'll let it compete for head cannon top spot.
@@hykeaux ........ and the Song of Slaanesh is literally the Music of the Spheres.
Why do i feel like theyve got a bunch of Keith Richards biographies amongst their most treasured items in their archive.
For me as a metalhead my headcannon is these guys are how "mainstream/popular" metal over the years, became much darker and heavier over the years/decades than in the 80s, it's nearly spot on lol
Whoever created the noise marines in 40K lore did ALL the psychedelic's they possibly could. Straight up astronaut in the writing room and loving every minute of it. I respect it! Another great vid Wes and I'll be grabbin a shirt for sure!
Having fried my brain on various hallucinogens I can assure you they did not. There’s no way you’d be able to create shit like this tripping balls
I love that the "apology" at the start of the video is that you say everything is your favorite. Your passion and joy for this universe is infectious, and these videos are a highlight for me
It also works in-lore too: they were, at first, more fancy and with guitars (30K) but after many years, they devolved into this horrific nightmare (40K)
They started heavy metal and devolved into dubstep
Imagine if or when they find out about pop lol
@@worri3db3arthe only thing pop-ish or popular would be Gregorian chants to synth organs otherwise it’s heresy
In year 30k, guitars are classical, traditional instruments.
I actually painted my noise marine based EC's to look like they're in between the two. Purpley Pink with a dark Ruddy gold and black accents. I use the guitar minis for the blast master models
Honestly, as an artist, I find the noise marines to be one of the most tragic factions in warhammer. It's so easy to see how Slaanesh could corrupt the dreams and ambitions of so many people
Goddess just made them into godlike industrial musicians, that's perfection
So, Slaanesh is very much like an executive at a record company from the 80's..... That makes too much sense now.
@ryanspalding875 oh god, you're right
Absolutely. After learning about Fulgrim's upbringing on a world without art and culture, the importance to him of creating a society on Chemos where those things exist (and his success in doing so), and his love of art during his time as a true Primarch... it makes his fall even sadder.
As a lifelong musician who was raised in a family of artists and musical folk, I feel for Fulgrim and those who have fallen to Slaanesh.
I didn't ever think about this before, but:
in a universe so dark and cruel, where countless human beings live in hunger and squalor without ever seeing the sun, where their only music is the sound of industry and food is purely a matter of survival,
the solace of beauty, creativity, and pleasures of the senses sounds irresistible. The simple concept of things most people would never dream of; dreams that will be corrupted the second they take root... Slaanesh could not only corrupt the dreams and ambitions of so many people. In the world of humans in 40k, Slaanesh could take hold of people by simply introducing them to the idea of those dreams and ambitions.
I recently learned that Trazyn the Infinite has a perfect clone of Fulgrim in his Museum. A clone with his mind and soul before he fell.
Imagine what could happen were the Imperium to acquire him. Not just what that would do to the tabletop game, but how having a being with his qualities and love of the arts would affect the Imperium. Fulgrim quite literally preferred to rule through love, saw nobility in all humans, saw art in the Forge as much as he saw it in more classical places, taught Konrad Curze - a man spurned by nearly all his brothers - to read, and so much more.
@RexytheRexy I've lived and worked on farms my entire life, but all I've ever wanted to do is tell stories and make art, so that resonates an insane amount with me.
I didn't know that about Fulgrim, but I agree, that really is painfully tragic. There's also a lot there about people who have been lost to drugs, alcohol, etc. How the level of what they need keeps getting ever higher, and they ultimately destroy everything and everyone they used to love simply because their need for feeling has resulted in them feeling nothing, without greater and greater highs. And in they end, they're left with nothing, not even an understanding of how they got to where they are, or where they're going. Just emptiness. It's indescribably awful to witness it happening to people
Edit: I can tell by your use of language you're a musical person, and one who cares deeply for people. I hope you're able to achieve your dreams, without Slaanesh getting involved
Everything is by far my favorite thing in warhammer. -Weshammer every episode
With good reason.
Immediate thumbs up for Dr. Rockzo reference. 🤣 Edit: After watching the whole thing, I appreciate that you see the tragedy of their fall. I've found the novel "Fulgrim" to be the saddest of 40k fiction. Also, excellent reading of the Maraviglia passage.
Saddest? I liked the novel, was first book I read from WH40K and loved the opera in la fenice(forgot the name now) but how can you feel sorry for him, he's an arrogant, self righteous arsehole. I'm not arguing, everyone had different feelings etc, in just curious how you could feel sorry for him, fulgrim welcomed his downfall
"I do cocaine... "
@@hideousruin I bet your mom's proud, well done
It’s a reference to Dr. Rockso from Metalocalypse
@@hideousruin "Don't tell nobody"
Adeptus Ridiculous had an art contest a few months back (or maybe last year?). They asked the audience to draw an Imperial Knight and make up their own Knight Houses.
One of the submissions was a Slaanesh corrupted pilot that took the Noise Marine concept to the next level by using his knight as a heavy metal stage complete with lights and lasers.
One of the artworks of all time if you ask me^^
And btw, noise boise needed some dedicated attention for sure. Loremasters tend to overlook them.🤘☠🤘
WIRED WERE THE EYES ON THE HORSE OF A JET PILOT ONE THAT SMILED WHEN HE FLEW OVER THE BAY!
@@privateinformation2960 Great song from a great band.
The thought of Dr. Rockso as a Noise Marine will live in my head rent free now haha
The fact that the Emperors Children getting corrupted by Slaanesh has always seemed like the greatest form of irony. Like if you told Fulgrim and his purple bois they would fall to depraved corruption, they'd probably kill ya. Also the face in the dark with that sister is genuinely f*cking terrifying. Amazing vid as per usual Wes, ur deep dives give me life my guy!
GW absolutely needs to do a series of Space Marine heroes that are Emperor's Children. Get a bands worth of Noise Marines.
^^^^ This right here
Agreed, I'd buy an entire set of Emperor's Children Heroes
Oh yeah, because that's absolutely not going to be an episode of the eclipse from berserk in each episode
They probably will when the EC codex drops later in 10th
@@g.c.4824 Space Marine heroes the blind box models not a TV series. So far they've mostly been loyalists but they did an awesome Death Guard set. That said, a emperors children centric series on Warhammer + would also be cool.
Little known fact: The Noise Marines can be defeated by requesting they play "Smoke on the Water" or "Stairway to Heaven".
“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery. There were a few Emperor's Children that have achieved "perfection". It's sad that so many missed that mark.
Saul tarvitz, ancient rylanor! Absolute chads! Perfection! And loyal to the end! ❤️
La perfección es relativa..
LIKE too you Sire....
Comissar: "What's that noise?"
"That would be the band, commissar"
C: "You mean a war band or a music band?"
"Yes!"
Requesting a Night Lord shirt that says "I was Chaotic before it was cool" with Kurze looking like Peter Steele
I would buy that in 2 seconds!
I need one of Ignatius Numen, the deaf Iron Hand who killed the first noise marine yelling “WHAT?!?!”
Except the Night Lords aren't that kind of chaotic. :/
@@Archon3960Oh, they are. They are so selfish, they cannot bare the thought of doing anything for the Gods. They truly do it for their own fun, for their own hatred of the species that gave them a purpose, and hated them for their purpose.
I think it would be cool if both types of noise marine canonically existed, and had their own internal conflict over aesthetic and "music" tastes
just like the real-world rivalry between electronic music fans and nostalgic metal-heads
half a dozen legionnaires that enjoy nickelback vs the rest of the known universe.
and guess whose day it is to choose the music in the cafeteria
When I first heard (ha) about the Noise Marines, I honestly thought they were a meme faction created by the 40K community. As I dived into the wiki and realized not only are they canon, they are one of the most terrifying Chaos Marines I think exist
Noise Marines are simply badass. One of the most entertaining concepts from good old Slaanesh. My favourite Chaos subfaction by far.
Pah! Gods?!
Fabius created the wall of sound.
My boy straight dropping an hour long Noise marine video.
AND POPS A ROCKSO THE ROCK AND ROLL CLOWN REFERENCE.
Underrated GOAT.
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i do cocaine.
That was heavy. I actually just finished the Fulgrim novel depicting the nightmare concert and the description of it was truly mesmerizing and horrifying.
I'm actually working my way through the Fabius Bile Omnibus and I love the noise marines. They're so well written.
Have you heard them voiced in the audiobook version?
Creepy and so well done.
Surprisingly, baldermort has one of the best showings of Noise Marines, in one of his Thaddeus and Tarquinus, lore tidbits.
I've never thought about "perfection" in that way and I gotta admit... that explanation is God tier level self awareness.
Noise Marines were the reasons I started Warhammer at all, many years ago. I'm obsessed with them (and Slaanesh in general).
There is nothing I didn't already know about them in the video, but I'm grateful that you not only touched every aspect that other UA-camrs missed, but at the end, were I was about to declare your video a good one even for a hard fan like me, you ended up reading my favourite scene in all Warhammer books.
I'm touched, fantastic video.
Nobody asked bro chill
@@SaraSara-oe6ilwhat a useless comment. Do you even know where you are, kid?
@SaraSara-oe6il nobody asked you either. Chill ffs.
@@Arguments_only u his boyfriend?
@@SaraSara-oe6il you his embittered ex, venting?
Should have listed their concert tour locations on the back with HolyTerra as the last stop
I'm not huge into WH40k, but the Noise Marines have been a chapter that's bounced around in my mind for years. I really really appreciate this deep dive! The origin of the Noise Marines, the real-world cultural influences, and their tragic dedication that warps them are all really cool. The Myth of Perfection section was a really cool watch and listen. I would love to see you make more content about them - especially considering your wicked new merch!
8:38 Noise marines from the other chaos gods actually makes a lot of sense. Nurgle often infects with sad corrupting songs and bells are part of his motif, tzeench’s would be casting many spells and speaking in warping tongues, their weapons would release a chorus of whispering blaspheming voices that consume swaths of the battlefield in warp fire and change, and khorn followers are often described are screaming louder than their bolters and deafening those nearby with their bellow and stuff, so his noise marines would just shout out loud barks and yells that manifest as concussive waves of force that smash everything before them.
I LOVE the Kakophoni of the Emperors Children, Marius Vairosean is my favorite, he embodies the Noise Marines and their horror more than anyone in my opinion 🔥
He got killed by a deaf Iron Hands terminator too. RIP Ignatius Numen, you crazy bastard.
yes he truly was the goat also his name spoken in the german audiobook sounds so fucking epic for some reason
@@venerablebrothergoriate5844 that moment was hilarious
"Come again?" As he shot him
@@venerablebrothergoriate5844 Isn't he the one who ran into radioactive fire to save an apothecary, said "I think I'll die now", and keeled over instantly?
@@judeblack4360 exactly. Fuckin madlad
That last quote you read, maybe it's just me, but it almost felt like in his final moments, Elian tapped into his humanity one last time. Not for hedonism, or desire or addiction, but for his brothers.
Yes, he's a monster for slaanesh but something within him was still a man, a man with love, compassion and a desire to help and support. He outwardly was a monster, but internally, in his last moments he found peace in his OWN song.
And i think maybe thats why the demons almost bid him farewell, maybe they felt sympathy for him and comforted him in death for being a loyal servant and for blessing them with a song of his own. Almost like Hades in the story of Orpheus, who cried when he heard Orpheus play a song about Eurydice, because for the first time in his existence he understood human emotion and love in a way a immortal being could never understand.
Amazing deep dive Wes.
Thanks for all your hard work putting this one together.
Your excerpts from Fulgrim really bring this deep dive to life.
The Emperor's Children's pursuit of perfection is like the math concept of an asymptote. A line that a curve approaches, but can never reach. The further along the line you go, the closer the curve gets, but never touches.
aha! I have an asymptotic sex life!
thank you for explaining this word to me. i feel like part of my life makes more sense now.
Your long-form episodes keep getting better, Bro. Keep it up!
I've watched this 3 times and gotta say love the dedication you put into your work Wes, genuinely love to see it as most other either seem to take it as a joke which is okay or be as dark and serious as the series, you find that sweet spot in-between and even though you seem to get a bit or a rough patch here and there in life glad to always see a upload from you as it always makes bad weeks better so just wanna say thank you for being the king of 40k lore cant wait for the other projects in the works
Dr roxo the rock and roll clown in power armor poweres by cocaine... is probably the most accurate description of a noise marine ive ever heard
Such a great analysis and video. Slaanesh and the Noise Marines weren’t subjects I knew much about but I feel I know so much more after this video. Keep up the great work!
Finally, I've been waiting to hear about these suckers for so long. While not my favorite chaos legion, I have a special place in my heart for those that use sound as weapons.
Yeah that trope has always been cool in my opinion
I have a similar love for all lightning/thunder based things in fiction.
What's your favorite?
@@alastor8091 Plague Marines. While most people could sum them up as space zombies, the fact that they are attrition fighters as well as embody my fear of "The Thing" levels of body horror is what puts them at the top for me.
Ignatius Numen, Deaf Iron Hands Terminator: “WHAT?!?!”
The theatre scene is one of my favorite moments from the Heresy. I can only imagine how hard it would be to translate that to live action or animation, should we ever get something like that. I love the Emperor's Children, sick fucks.
Id be more into a warband that targets planets specifically for women with the biggest booties
@@BovineInterventionNot excessive enough, posterior thickness is for mortals.
@@KillerOrca you don't know anything there's a lot of excessive things you can do after you capture the biggest booties in an entire sector of a galaxy
@@BovineIntervention The sheer size required to appeal to a devotee of She Who Thirsts would require flesh of gravity distorting levels, thar which no mortal can maintain.
Normal human booty is simply not enough
@@KillerOrca you don't know
Great video as usual Wes, I recently finished the Fabius Bile trilogy and I really enjoyed the depiction of noise marines in the books
Very happy to see a noise marine video! Can't wait for the Emperor's Children refresh
Honestly I have always identified with a lot of parts of the Noise Marine's story. I have struggled with addiction in the past and can empathize with getting addicted to the pursuit of excess and also understand the dulling of sensations that used to excite and the seeking out of "more", even to ones own detriment. I know I am glad to be free of the insanity of addiction and seeking the "perfect" high or rush. I am much better nowadays and have been for a long time but I still have to put work in with keeping myself in check once in awhile. Warhammer lore actually has helped get me throw some really tough times in the past tbh. It's a very deep universe and can be very encompassing. Videos like this have literally helped me get through difficult periods of withdrawal in the past for example. Great video! Thanks for sharing.
Used to imagine sound being a legit weapon. I was already a 40K fan and didnt dive that deep into factions I wasn't playing. Got the audio book of the first 5 HH novels and when I heard this was already a realized item HOLY CRAP I knew I had to have at least one of these! Still have yet to paint the official model but he is on my desk
Damn... That was an awesome video 😂. Noise Marines are amazing and so are you WesHammer 👍
This, this is actually very intense; as it should be. The ending kind of makes you think, I want to believe that the Noise Marine went on to his paradise, and was taken into the Song itself.
Also at least generally speaking at least with my version, Marius is pronouced "Marry us".
The current noise marines are disturbing, they're genuinely the only space marine unit that I hate to look at. That's exactly the point and the fact I have that gut reaction is incredible.
The og noise marines though look absolutely incredible and have it be one of my favourite designs in 40k. I think both should exist but maybe there can be some sort distinction between them.
Ones who grew to worship music itself V.S. those who worship Slaanesh perhaps?
Very nice video! I always liked the Noise Marines in the first Fabius Bile book.
Honestly man I’d watch more deep dives of all the primarchs/their legions. I don’t play the table top and just read the books so I get some of these larger than life characters that I’d really love to know more about. As always it’s a pleasure to watch your videos and i appreciate all that you do.
Me when i open 10 different songs at full volume while playing games at full volume
What an amazing video, your videos have gotten me into the lore of 40k more than any other. I'm a fairly new fan but have watched every deep dive, lore, and horror story videos you've made
“There is no sound in space.”
“THAT IS WHY I PUT THIS VOICE BOX IN MY FACE!”
For how you fight an enemy like that, you'd have to aim to sever tendons and muscles or land a killing blow rather quickly. While they may enjoy having tendons severed, that doesn't mean they'll be able to move them.
These guys would be my particular nightmare. I'm so sensitive to noise and so easily startled.
THINGS WILL GET LOUD NOW. Seriously though they’ve always been one of my favorite units from the setting, they embody the bonkers over the top aspect of the setting in general and Slaanesh in particular. Equal parts silly and horrifying, that’s 40k baby!
When you said 'join the noise marines as they tour the galaxy...' I thought it was going to have a list on the back like 'Isstvan 3 March 3rd 005.M31' (or however the dates work in 40K).
"All sounds will end in silence, but the silence never dies..." ~Samuel Miller H. In his poem "The sound"
Just started, but already impressed by the number of great pictures. Well chosen.
I wish GW would make more marines, like to me there is so much potential with noise marines like instruments wise
Great Vid! Fun Fact: The sperm whale is the loudest creature on earth able to generate sounds at 230dB (ear dumbs burst at ~150dB) and it is thought that a sustained sound from one at close proximity could in fact vibrate a person to death.
theyre also why the sea is so salty.
true story.
I love learning about the "lesser known" factions. I wonder if there's enough lore to do a dive into the T'au faux marines? It also makes me wonder if other species have also looted astartes battlefields and made their own version
I do love the faux marines but I'm pretty sure the lore ends at "they made drone astartes from leftover armor". The tau have pretty much written off ever converting space marines to the greater good.
I love 80' glam metal noise maines, but I also think other desings based on diffrent style would be fire.
Like eg. Imagine demonic orchestra, hundreds of demonic musicans playing disonant but powerful tuttis. Imagine avangard like winds, warp enchanted brasses, being destruction to enemies and new power to deregned allows, roaring timpanis, strings bringing nightmarish feeling of anguish playing togheter abhorrent symphony of excess and pain, that driffted sobfar from classical beauty...
im just imagining Arthur Brown setting his head on fire and Keith Emerson completely destroying a hammond organ
i've said it before but, as someone who knows nothing and has never played ... I love your videos. Seeing 40k though your eyes is a wonderful experience, making something that seems both ominous and daunting (not merely because the story is 'dark' but because there is so much of said story) - bizarrely delightful. maybe you're just that compelling a story teller!
(Because... while you do explain a lot, I think that the thing that keeps me coming back is the way you tell the story of it all) . Regardless Thank you, and I hope you keep making videos for a long time to come.
Thank you 🥲
The way you talked about the myth of perfection was amazing, very well worded! Great video, perfect to listen to while indulging in my own excesses...
Awesome video, I think it’s good to point of that the vast majority of Emperors Children aren’t Noise Marines but are “just” chaos space marines. Still horribly mutated, terrifying and deadly but not noise marines
Most Emperors children view Noise marines with respect, suspicion or caution and they’re often isolated away from the rest of the Warband like in the Fabius Bile trilogy
Most emperors children are standard Chaos space marines who are mutated and mutilated and obsessed with certain things such as pain, pleasure, drugs, art etc and take it to the extreme. A few named examples of “normal” Emperors Children are Oleander Koh, Flavius Alkenex, Merix, Narvo Quin, Lidonius and Gulos Palatides but the vast majority of the 12th compnay were standard emperors children chaos marines
This video pretty much singlehandedly got me through my first few weeks of my current and first job. I would listen to this in my earphones like 5 times during a work day because it brought me so much comfort. You really helped me through a really drastic and stressful part of my life. Thank you
Hellraiser meets Dark Eldar. I love it
ALWAYS excited to see a new Weshammer video. This was very insightful! Thank you again sir!
0:17 that's crazy he used a photo of steel panther, I literally just saw them live last weekend and now I'm getting into tabletop 40k and wanna play the emperor's children so I'm watching lore lmao
My thoughts were coked up metal rocker and he showed Steel Panther.. Checks out 😂
God I love that image of the Noise marine motioning a Shush. The darkness around, the vibe it has. I love it
I just cannot ignore the Sister at the forefront though. 😢
It's a representative of slanesh that isn't inspired by H.R. Geiger and/ or censored to hell. They show another interesting aspect of slanesh in how pleasure and excess can be weaponized without instantly saying "drugs." Of course I like the noise marines, I wish we had more creative units like them.
It's always a good day when Wes posts a video! I love your content man, your passion has drawn mw into the 40K universe and I haven't regretted it since ^_^ the amount of effort and love for your craft really shows, I salute you sir!!
Wes! As you know I have been on a year long search to find a faction that speaks to me.
I was thinking 1000 Sons, but in real life I probably find my Heretical soul with Slanesh.
Great Video Wes!
Thank you kind soul, I have found my people :)
Love that you're self sponsoring! I also love that just about everything you've covered is "one of your favorite parts of 40k" it's really wholesome. A lot of fandoms struggle with creators always posting "500 things I hate about _____". Keep on favoriting everything you like buddy!
Only Wes can make a video about f***ing space marines the most chewed up lore topic ever and I be like "wait, why don't I know anything of these guys??? How... what? Okay have to watch rn."
Noise marines were what got me into 40k! Thanks so much for making a vid on my fav faction!
Holy shit! I've just discovered these guys like 4 days ago but didn't have the time to read up on their lore. It was one of the worst weeks of my life and this video just fills me with so much serotonin, I can't help but feel like smiling like a retard. Impeccable timing Wes, and amazing video as always!
Happy to help 🙂
be careful that is slanesh corruption at her finest
Ty for your lore bro!!! Now i know alot more about warhammer and hopefully you can do khorne berzerkers, plague marines and rubric marines
Do a video on Kaldor Draigo, he's so badass!
I dig the side-topic of mentioning real world music trends with the association to Warhammer. Tying in music to a unit associated with earsplitting sounds seems like a no-brainer but it's pulled off so well in the models, especially the "guitar sonic blasters" and their whole color scheme.
We just need Black Bolt to be hired as a vocalist and NOW we have a BAND!! ..P.S. Good morning Wes, I hope you have a great day!
After my debts, this Shirt is on my Buy-List!
And its delightful to hear and see that you are a Noise Marine Fan too :)
Imagine a noise marine in a sensory deprivation tank.
It would be torture for them
Weirdly, something very similar to this actually happened in a 40k role-playing game I was part of. We were an inquisition warband and we had captured a Slaanesh cultist called Barry (don't ask.) We discussed how to interrogate him for a bit, and eventually my character came up with the idea of torturing Barry by locking him in a totally featureless grey room and reading a huge Administratum ledger of the last 200 years' tax returns in a monotone voice over the vox speakers.
this channel is the best lore channel i know
Wes you beast an hour if joy. And a heavy metal bliss we all need ❤
In the Fabius book, he talks about how they're one of the most dangerously destructive forces he knows of, their true potential unknown. But ripping apart entire voidships is known, destroying whole celestial bodies, not impossible.
Thank the Emperor.
I think you meant to say "Thank the prince of darkness"
@fandaeckert1915 I'm just glad Wes finally decided to upload
Holyshit the lack of sponsorship an immediate noise Marine tour shirt immediately made these videos 30% better
Fun fact: The First Noise Marine, Marius Vairosean, was killed by a deaf Iron Hands terminator.
Vairosean: *[uses sonic scream attack, kills a couple iron hands]*
Ignatius Numen, deaf Iron Hand: *[TANKS THE HIT, CHARGES VOLKITE CANNON]*
“WHAT?! I DIDN’T QUITE CATCH THAT!”
*[REDUCES VAIROSEAN TO HIS COMPONENT ATOMS]*
This happened in the book Angel Exterminatus.
It’s also where Lucius gets his ass handed to him. Love it.
@@ThirdCydonian yeah. Like, I’m not a huge fan of the Raven Guard, but Lucius got absolutely bitched on by Sharro’Kyn, and I loved every second of that duel.
(As someone who is still not very familiar with WH40K despite watching a couple dozen Weshammer videos) I’d love to see a group of loyalist Noise Marines that exclusively play SABATON style power-metal songs and have armor that is themed accordingly.
Gonna be honest, really hope to see them soon released by GW for 10th. They really just need to let loose and let the memes roll.
Totally worth the wait Wes. Was awesome!
So, I watch most videos at 2X speed because ADHD and other such reasons, and this video fits so well with being played at 2X speed that I only noticed it was when I was almost 40 minutes in.
You and me both, also because adhd! I even edit them at 2x speed so in a sense, that is the speed they are ment to be listened to 😅
I haven't been into Warhammer 40k for that long, but every time I think it can't get any more brutal and horrific, something like these guys comes along.
Imperial guardsmen and Astartes that are stationed: no warband can defeat us
Noise marines: *we are no warband, we.... ARE A MUSIC BAND. HIT IT!*
**mickey mouse clubhouse theme song starts playing**
Ignatius Numen, Deaf Iron Hands Veteran Terminator: “WHAT?! I DIDN’T QUITE CATCH THAT!”
*[FIRES VOLKITE CANNON]*
perfectionism is an addiction in that you'll need an ever increasing dose for same effect. All the while increasing the dose become more and more difficult
Great video Wes. I really liked your bit about perfection, I always found that part of Slaanesh a little bit baffling; in my experience perfectionists tend to lead an almost ascetic lifestyle, which goes against the whole hedonistic excess thing of Slaanesh. But as you say there are also plenty of people who become obsessed with perfection and pursue it relentlessly which in turn leads to their ruin. The Emperor's Children really hammer home that one Voltaire quote "perfect is the enemy of good".
That intro was poetic. I should add that every noise marine lore session i go through has me re-evaluate my habits of metal music consumption, to little avail.
I’ve always had a model idea to make a group of noise marines painted like KISS members.
After searching and searching, i think i finally found my Marines. I understand these creatures on a deep level and see myself in them. 🖤💜🖤