As someone whose introduction to early music was the Hilliard Ensemble's Josquin nearly too perfect recording just shy of 40 years ago.... this is gorgeous. This is what early music needs to be today: historically informed but not a slave to the past; musically adventurous and wonderful.
@@MusicaAnticaRotherhithe Indeed! The all-too-polished interpretation of Hilliard, Tallis and so on is more indebted to contemporary, mainly British understanding of smooth sound blending than to a really informed interpretation of late 15th-century polyphony, where, for instance, free, extemporized melismatic embellishments of higher parts must have been likely, all the more so in the strophic 'formes fixes', with their several repetitions of same textual-musical units, even if this is not the case here.
No, this is Josquin, not an indoctrinated idea of what is when kept locked away in a box: some precious adornment to what people think entertainment is, or high art, or refinement. The first time I could cry, deeply, to hear what it really expresses. After all these years.....
Now I'm in love with your voices!!! I am a contralto by passion...and after this version of Nymphes Des Bois, I am waiting for you to give me Lugebat David Absalon (Nicolas Gombert)
I love the way they are shown brushing off the hairs and fiddling with curls. Real human beings can make the most ethereal sounds.Absolutely wonderful.
This performance is between life, death and afterlife. I am still not sure what or how or when. Beyond words and keeps me mindblown. Omnibus gratias. Amen. Thank you all.
I’m very intrigued by everything here. The tempo is slow but what control and intensity! The graces and falls add a deeply personal and visceral quality to the tragedy. Something all too often missing from performances of this music.
Qué belleza, las voces son una joya, me encantan especilmente los contratenores, se mueven con gran dulzura y sentimiento, sin aspavientos ni exageraciones.
I love this so much, the fluidity and expressiveness are unparalleled. However, I do wish it would be possible to hear the strings more clearly. Their work is almost invisible.
"Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio: a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy: he hath borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is! my gorge rims at it. Here hung those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft. Where be your gibes now? your gambols? your songs? your flashes of merriment, that were wont to set the table on a roar? Not one now, to mock your own grinning? quite chap-fallen? Now get you to my lady's chamber, and tell her, let her paint an inch thick, to this favour she must come; make her laugh at that. Prithee, Horatio, tell me one thing."
Very touching performance, however maybe somewhat too slow. The music seems to fall apart, f.i. in the sequence of the second part where the composers are mentioned. Anyway, an astonishing interpretation!
Slow was also my initial response , but since then I feel a slower tempo here is justified. The series of descending thirds in the melody there represent to me falling tears and echo the story in the text. It can't be hastened without risking losing that impact.
You can see why this was not the take released(I’m assuming by the Bootleg title it wasn’t, and I know the other version on UA-cam) Almost by definition a dirge needs a tactus of some kind. Even if it’s internal. Still amazing to see part of the process, to see how they work. This is about as abstract as they get isn’t it. Terrifying standard of singing. You could use all of that take if it was in the end the artistic choice you wanted to take.
Good Choral singing is a team sport. No room for soloists hogging the light.........Nor any need for vibrato.. acting as it always does to both blur the line as well being a flashing ambulance light drawing attention from the group
@@constantinagomez Agreed -- the near loss of the melodic line is compensated for by the resulting emphasis on the interactions of the voices and the dramatic tension that arises.
Listening to this sacred music written by Josquin Desprez means, that heaven opens up. I am deeply moved by these sacred sounds 💫
As someone whose introduction to early music was the Hilliard Ensemble's Josquin nearly too perfect recording just shy of 40 years ago.... this is gorgeous. This is what early music needs to be today: historically informed but not a slave to the past; musically adventurous and wonderful.
..somehow the same way our identity changes, our perception of God ....
I humbly correct; a slave to what we think of as the past.
Some would argue this is closer to what might have been heard!
@@MusicaAnticaRotherhithe Indeed! The all-too-polished interpretation of Hilliard, Tallis and so on is more indebted to contemporary, mainly British understanding of smooth sound blending than to a really informed interpretation of late 15th-century polyphony, where, for instance, free, extemporized melismatic embellishments of higher parts must have been likely, all the more so in the strophic 'formes fixes', with their several repetitions of same textual-musical units, even if this is not the case here.
З
I don’t know how many time I’ve watched this by now. It is absolute perfection and I’m moved to tears every time. Thank you so much.
same by me.. same by me..
No, this is Josquin, not an indoctrinated idea of what is when kept locked away in a box: some precious adornment to what people think entertainment is, or high art, or refinement. The first time I could cry, deeply, to hear what it really expresses. After all these years.....
En accord parfait!...
Now I'm in love with your voices!!!
I am a contralto by passion...and after this version of Nymphes Des Bois, I am waiting for you to give me Lugebat David Absalon (Nicolas Gombert)
I love the way they are shown brushing off the hairs and fiddling with curls. Real human beings can make the most ethereal sounds.Absolutely wonderful.
After listening to this version, one could die peacefully
❤
This performance is between life, death and afterlife. I am still not sure what or how or when. Beyond words and keeps me mindblown. Omnibus gratias. Amen. Thank you all.
I’m very intrigued by everything here. The tempo is slow but what control and intensity! The graces and falls add a deeply personal and visceral quality to the tragedy. Something all too often missing from performances of this music.
Stupefiant de beauté ! Envoûtant.... Je peux l'écouter des heures et je pourrais donner tout Mozart contre une telle merveille !
Qué maravilla !!!! Creo que hasta el propio Josquin se emocionaría.
OMG ... I am in love! ❤ 😮
This is just immensely beautiful.
Piękne
A profoundly emotional performance of a profoundly emotional piece. The tempo is perfect too, you lose a lot in rushing counterpoint this gorgeous.
che meraviglia
Absolutamente conmovedora....
Evoca un bosque lluvioso del sur de 🇨🇱..!!!
Speechless.
Subscribed.
Einfach überirdisch schön
Exquisite.
Amazing dream version of this masterpiece!
Wonderful
Inmejorable!!!!, sencillamente una ejecución maravillosa de una hermosa pieza de Desprez, que vuelvo a escuchar por enésima vez
Divine!
Overwhelmed by a murderous beauty 😇
OMFG you guys. Unreal.
Excellent interpretation, the slower paces leaves more room to interpret the contribution of each voice. Real grain de la voix.
Qué belleza, las voces son una joya, me encantan especilmente los contratenores, se mueven con gran dulzura y sentimiento, sin aspavientos ni exageraciones.
Très belles images. Une réalisation vraiment nouvelle de cette oeuvre très enregistrée. Bravo !
c'est incroyable! Bravo
Mais quelle merveille! 😍😍
Sublime
У меня пробились слезы. Я почувствовал их намерение сделать это тонко и чувственно.
Very intense. The slower speed adds a new perspective
They cross the border of what is comprehensible, they tear away the veil of mystery, they reach the depths of inadequacy!
Que Maravilla 🥰
Maravilloso.
Excellent sound here as always and ethereal vibes! 🔥🧡 Bless you!
Brilliant!!!
outstanding!
Sin palabras...
Immensi ❤
¡Joder, qué pasada!
¡Bello!! Muchas Gracias
NO WORDS!
Amazing singers! I would love to hear you singing Walter Frye Missa flos regalis!
¡Dios, qué maravilla! 💘
Phenomenal...
Astonishing
Brutal !!!
Magistraal! Oorstrelend!
I love this so much, the fluidity and expressiveness are unparalleled. However, I do wish it would be possible to hear the strings more clearly. Their work is almost invisible.
❤️🔥
❤
"Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio: a fellow
of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy: he hath
borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how
abhorred in my imagination it is! my gorge rims at
it. Here hung those lips that I have kissed I know
not how oft. Where be your gibes now? your
gambols? your songs? your flashes of merriment,
that were wont to set the table on a roar? Not one
now, to mock your own grinning? quite chap-fallen?
Now get you to my lady's chamber, and tell her, let
her paint an inch thick, to this favour she must
come; make her laugh at that. Prithee, Horatio, tell
me one thing."
😍
C'est en quelle langue??? JE ne comprends Rien!!!!Donc, c'est trop lent!
Français de la Renaissance
👂👀
Mysticism practiced
i like how slow this rendition is.
Iet ies very beutiful
Very touching performance, however maybe somewhat too slow. The music seems to fall apart, f.i. in the sequence of the second part where the composers are mentioned. Anyway, an astonishing interpretation!
Their rendition from a previous album may be more to your taste: ua-cam.com/video/bTvYwoGdD8Y/v-deo.html
@@lux514 It is, thank you!
I think it is precisely the almost "falling apart" aspect that gives this version its dramatic tension.
Slow was also my initial response , but since then I feel a slower tempo here is justified. The series of descending thirds in the melody there represent to me falling tears and echo the story in the text. It can't be hastened without risking losing that impact.
Cadences at 7:42 and 7:53…. Without the accompaniment… Jesus Christ…..🥹
You can see why this was not the take released(I’m assuming by the Bootleg title it wasn’t, and I know the other version on UA-cam)
Almost by definition a dirge needs a tactus of some kind. Even if it’s internal.
Still amazing to see part of the process, to see how they work. This is about as abstract as they get isn’t it. Terrifying standard of singing. You could use all of that take if it was in the end the artistic choice you wanted to take.
Magnífico. Pero la introducción sobra
Es un ensayo. Y una cuarta toma según oímos decir al director.
Wonderful - but too close miked. Detailed yes, but it coarsens texture. This delicate music needs air, not fake reverb.
Good Choral singing is a team sport. No room for soloists hogging the light.........Nor any need for vibrato.. acting as it always does to both blur the line as well being a flashing ambulance light drawing attention from the group
Definitively too slow paced. They loose the melodic line of this piece which is Josquin's trademark.
almost falling apart which provokes an enormous tension, I just love to be on the edge of listening in that way
@@constantinagomez Agreed -- the near loss of the melodic line is compensated for by the resulting emphasis on the interactions of the voices and the dramatic tension that arises.
Как здорово!
Serafico