How Strong Is End of Z Goku?
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- In this video, I go over just how strong Son Goku is at the end of Dragon Ball when he realizes his dream and faces off against Uub for the first time! He is notoriously an enigma in alternate media that seems to be above everyone, but we may've just found he's a lot stronger than we originally thought. Enjoy!
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probably should've uploaded this earlier this month... awkward.
Cya next December I guess?
Haven’t soon you in a bit
I've wanted someone to do this for the last 2 months you should do an updated 100 years goku now
Goku vs Superman lol
@@juggsasuke failed ratio
This takes "but can they beat Goku tho" to a whole new level.
Casually drops The Scarlet King from the SCP lore on Goku. Even Zeno is shook at that point.
Never understood why scp folks debate scp character with anime.
@@AdeloctissZeg Because the SCP characters are still scalable to other characters in other universes. I happen to be a fan of Dragonball. In fact, it is my favorite anime of all time. I also enjoy SCP among many other storys including unique stories I created myself.
and gets slammed by normal dbs goku @@lanceknightmare
@@AdeloctissZeg multi vs multi battle. It's a casual thing in the scaling community
Great video man. Loved the Arale effect you did to introduce her. Crazy to think how much an old gag character can shake up the scaling for DB after so long.
Hell yeah u broke the dragon ball powerscaling of goku with that arale meta video
The goat
Putting Goku above arale is retarded
Amazing
And to think it been there so long
Hopefully one day we can get an official post Z goku with uub storyline
End of Z Goku deserves to be the strongest. I love that gi.
He is and GT Goku GI means he's stronger too
@@omnijonn277super goku 1 shots ssj4
@@MrEAW56Honestly depends on his version, superman's weaker versions could be fucked up by goku and milkman super man could solo fiction.
@@JasWinnin-gi2jbin his dreams
@@KiraYami1412 nah it’s only a little bit stronger than ssj3 and he can barley lift a building the same person that was able to lift the z sword which is the weight of 2 Jupiter size planets
That Arale bit is pure gold 😂
Final goku probably was retconned when you consider how old bulma looks there, now there's the whole thing where bulma uses the dragon to stay younger
There's still time before the EoZ so they can easily fix that by making Dr. Hedo mess up on skincare and making her look older or something
@@TheSuperGooberEoZ has to be rewritten. After Super Hero, it's basically at the 10 year time skip. BOG was four years after Buu, and the rest of Super and the movies take a few years too. You can track Super by Pans age. If Bulma claimed to have not seen Goku in five years and Vegeta is back living at home. The last ten years of new content just can't fit into the previous ending
@@richborn6700to be honest considering the fact that the last time Bulma had seen Goku is when Goku and Vegeywere about to leave to travel to granolah's planet , which is stated to be around age 781, where's the end of z stated to take place around age 784, three years before Goku met Bulma again. So the only thing that is gonna retcon is the age meeting between Goku and Bulma and possibly her age(although this could be fixed as like the first guy said)
Plus if toriyama says it's canon to the end of z, then it is canon, he's the literal author and creator
@@RagingBlazeBloodBaka Tbf, last time Goku met Bulma in person was at the end of the Moro Arc. Maybe they can say "I haven't seen you in 4 years"
@@richborn6700 EoZ should be rewritten. It's better to write-off Super Hero as non-canon for having VIOLATED the original continuity.
I'm all for the writers forgetting about the old ending with Goku leaving everyone with Uub. They stepped on there own toes by ending Z like that in my opinion.
I absolutely agree that ending was chalked.
at this point it would just be silly for them to stick to end of z with super. If anything id be cool if they had a super-ized end of z arc tho.
i consider end of Z as gt continuity tbh
@@poopooman-q7rthat sounds right tbh
I mean, Goku has teleportation and is fast as shit
Rip to the goat. Wish we could've gotten to see end of z Goku
New chapter just came out end of z goku sucks this one is better
@@JasWinnin-gi2jb 🤡prolly 8 years old
@@AshuraG5 36
You 36!!!!! @@JasWinnin-gi2jb
@@JasWinnin-gi2jb Thats embarassing, grow up lmao
I still think that Goku gets his end of Z Gi from either Whis or the Grand Priest for getting on the angel-level.
Probably
Do you think if we go by arale scaling is GT Kid Goku in SS1 strong enough to make Base Super Hero Goku sweat
Doesn't really make much sense... Since that gi is the same as his very first gi in the first saga, before he entered the 21st Martial Arts Tournament
I don't think Whis or Beerus was even a concept back then.
Toriyama always said he wanted their base forms to be their ultimate forms, hence SsjG looking almost base form aside from the red hair. The ending of DBZ with Goku in the same gi as original DB and in base form only is a foreshadowing of this I believe. It would be really cool to see the saiyans really break the requirement for new, stupid scaling forms
This is amazing. End of Z Goku was always the strongest version in my eye, and I have been wanting Super not to retcon that. Your explanation and theories just makes me so, so happy. I'm hyped for End of Z in Super now. This is my new personal headcanon.
Unless super goes beyond end of Z final Goku is the strongest
@@ellisp276if end of z goku is cannon to super imagine what his ui looks like and if he has mastered all his stuff would that mean ssj4
I mean Super is its own timeline/continuity anyway
no it would just be that ultra instinct would be his new base form@@DOGEIDK
Super is stronger
Great video. Definitely some uncoventional scaling not really talked about. Good job to you and Ryu.
jesus loves you
I wonder if it's possible that Goku's dream was about finding another fighter with that much potential but little experience? If I was the writer, that's the angle I'd take it.
I wonder if Uub would train with Broly...
Goku becoming a teacher does soumd like a fitting end. After defending eaeth for so long he keeps doing it in his own way
Seth always delivers when it comes to power levels
dawg what@@koz3ris252
The man is back
Absolutely
Also when it comes to being a sociopath, can't forget that.
@@maximusstorm1215 yea but he is still here
Glad you coming back. Keep dropping heat Seth.
people cant even fuking support anymore, holy@@Syx174
That’s why he was gone
Glad to see you back in action Seth 👌
damn he’s ACTUALLY actually back, im so glad 😭
dude i know!!!! this doesnt feel real!
Seth got debunked by drip sauce
With tanked views and overrated takes? wooow what a comeback the kiddy diddler should’ve stayed in whatever cave he wormed his way out of💀
Cringe. Lol he shouldn't be
@@edot7266 his videos lowkey entertaining tho
Nice video. Never really thought of this scaling even for Goku. Wonder how a composite Goku involving all of GT, Super and Heroes’ abilities would be in terms of strength. Good editing with the Arale part too.
Also, I do want to say character-wise, Frieza did start to understand Goku’s feelings as if he didn’t he would’ve just blown up Namek and Goku called him out on it. There’s also Piccolo (Jr.) Vegeta and Cell who also, to some extent, understand Goku’s feelings (at least in terms of combat) so I think that Daizenshuu 2 statement that “Goku’s feelings are only understood by his fellow strongest” is more of a general line referring to his strongest foes. But that’s just my opinion.
Good vid overall 👍
That's beyond Broken
@@JakeRider-wc6kewell he is son wukong broken is his thing lol
too strong:
i was under the impression that "his fellow strongest" might be referring to vegeta, who seemed to understand goku more in the buu arc, whereas he was "only" a rival before that arc and didn't fully understand goku (which in a way led to him being majinized)
If gt were Canon and it truly took place after the events of super by reasoning of end of z coming, then it would make sense that gokus body in ssj4 would be able to move on its own and also compensate for the next round after being hit by a technique.
Plus we really need a Canon wrap up to the loose end of goku and vegeta losing their tails, which is a big source of their true saiyan potential.
I could imagine goku gaining his tail back somehow then combining his saiyan pride to create his own personal mastery over ultra instinct to create the og ssj5 look.
Vegeta with ssj4 and ultra ego would also work very well.
The thing I found interesting is that gokus ssj4 form, basically allowed him to have unlimited potential, when he fought syn shenron, he absorbed a huge portion of saiyan power from. Gohan, trunks and goten and called it ultra full power saiyan 4, to do that he had to surpass his bodily limits to the point it could have killed him but it didn't. So super needs to have them get their tails back, at the moment they are incomplete saiyans trying to learn div techniques without their full potential available to them.
And heroes is another animal entirely but it was awesome seeing so many different combinations and forms we never thought we'd see from toei officially. The fact ssj4 LB goku could fight head to head against omen CC goku with just brute force and speed shows he's beyond anything in power we saw in the top. (Obvious I know but I'm just trying to point out, toei owns db iirc, these may be ideas they want to see if and when super ever returns or maybe daima will start to show evolutions for them in a different way)
Can't stop thinking about Arele being in the Universe Survival Saga.
Crazy thing is Goku Black might’ve killed Future Arale when he started life wiping the timeline. If Black didn’t/couldn’t do it then Infinite Zamasu likely destroyed her along with the rest of humanity. And if that didn’t do it then Zeno most definitely did
@@TheUncivilizedNation ngl Penguin Village existing in the background while all this is happening is a huge plot hole. You mention Goku Black but the original future timeline is the same issue. Penguin Village would've heard of the Cell Games too, plus they could've taken care of the Majin Buu crisis easily, and so on
I'm tired of the drama, I'm just happy Seth's back.
Same here
Drama for you, personal life experiences for someone else. You people are way too self centered
@@CrispyCousy Is it selfish to not want to deal with people we've come to trust get accused every god damn day? Cause I don't know about you, but I'm quite tired of the accusations tossed around on Twitter, discord, reddit, and other such sites every day, false or otherwise. I mean the amount of people who've been accused as pedophiles is enough to tick me off, from Revie way back then to Ninjamuffin now, it's all so tiresome. I just want to enjoy the distractions I have, and I'm happy Seth is back to making videos. I want people to stop, but I know they're not going to, and there's jack shit I can do about it. I'll just enjoy what I can before it's gone for good.
@@Lord_Seraph You want people to stop accusing him of doing shit he openly admitted to doing?????
@@CrispyCousy Maybe I'm a bit more forgiving than the average person, but Seth admitted and apologized for what he did. As well as the fact that some people were going out of their way to make him seem worse than he actually was instead of covering the topic and then cutting ties with him. It's been god knows how long since the last controversy, and by now I'm fairly certain seth has learnt and grown as a person. Others like Kinger's VA, Revie and Ninjamuffin were either falsely accused and/or have done nothing wrong and people are just stirring shit up to get them in hot water. Frankly, I'd rather NOT live a life where almost everyone is a hot piece of shit or is accused to be one, and that's not the life I'm getting, so I'm just going to forgive and forget when someone has shown their willingness to change and grow, rather than banish any and all who even remotely do anything wrong. It's fucked up, cruel, and frankly disheartening. I'm not saying Seth shouldn't have been punished for what he did, that much is true, but I'm willing to see past the mistakes and the drama's and give people the chance to turn things around, something Seth has been trying to do for a while and has only recently come back because of it.
I can't believe bro still beat the allegations his power level is wild
I’m shocked he hasn’t been terminated yet. He’s gotta be the protagonist or something
I guess UA-cam don't give a fuck anymore 💀
@@Powerclock35 bro got Goku levels of plot armor
@@PeterEgbuna-ne9bp He’s got plot armor instinct
@@Powerclock35 fr. The writers want him to thrive lol
i cant even see goku running at piccolo normally anymore XD
So now it's confirmed by large UA-camrs that Son Goku is high hyper - outer now. Glad to know that power-scaling UA-camrs are making a change in Son Goku's scaling.
Arale doesnt even scale higher thab complex multi
This is End Of Z Goku though. Super Goku is only low multi-low complex multiversal
Man. If we're going with this scaling then Jesus Christ.
@@heyman373arale is straight up outer.
@@villain9482 stop using Jesus name in vain
2 SETH VIDEOS IN LESS THAN A WEEK! THE PROGRAMMER IS COOKING SOMETHING AMAZING!
Nah he said he was going to post this early December, but forgot.
😊 look as I've enjoyed the new people who have arrived to do power scaling and as I hope Seth has healed and hopefully came back a better person I'm either way glad that he's dropping videos
SethTheProGROOMER445 is back at it again with more cupcakes!
I am baffled he actually came back.
Yall will believe literally anything huh? Seth ain't no gr00mer bro
@@BasedChadcope
@@BasedChadhe quite literally admitted to it on a livestream. You're braindead
Now I wanna sub
Seth's back to making videos consistently now? Nice
What happened to bro?
@@Reallyjoyboyfr drama and allegations
@@ReallyjoyboyfrHe was deal with his mental health, he wasn't in good place. From the looks he seem to be doing better now
Yes.🔥
@@Reallyjoyboyfrallegations were grooming and sexting with minors 💀
Must’ve been one hell of a training arc, my boy is back
Missed you man, great video i hope you're doing better life is all about getting better and im rooting for you.
What I really want is for them to redo the GT time period in canon but this time really focus on Goku as a mentor to Uub and Pan, with Uub and Pan being the protagonists and having Goku train them to become his successors.
by the special ep Pan wont become a successor. Id love for them to focus on that new kid, his grand grand son
Most of GT is poorly written garbage, but it does have a lot of really cool character designs and individual plot elements. I'd like to see it reimagined, unbound from the original writing. A good place to start would be for Goku to not be turned back into a kid, and for Goten to take his place in the ship, along with Uub. That would make it a pretty good "next generation" series starring Goten, Trunks, Pan, and Uub. Lots of potential for cool stuff to happen like Super Saiyan Pan, Super Saiyan 4 Goten and Trunks, etc. The whole Black Star Balls thing would need to be altered too if Goku's not being reverted back to a kid, but that's not really too difficult. Just have Pilaf accidentally wish for something else instead.
@@Crow_RisingNo more poorly written garbage than Super tho
I think eventually they might go that direction in a way, i wanna see it done much differently as well, though instead of Goku SSJ4 make Broly go SSJ4 since he has the ozaru form in him
I believe after the end of all of this ''Goku solo your verse'' etc not even a joke anymore lol
Never was a joke
Cant lie, you’re the first power scaler i’ve watched and have great points, glad your back brother.
No he doesn’t, but okay
@@YouDontLikeMe-fi1zh each his own🤷🏾♂️
@@YouDontLikeMe-fi1zh each his own🤷🏾♂️
@@YouDontLikeMe-fi1zh goku coper
SETH IS BACKKK
Two videos in a row!!
Seeing you recover from previous issues you had is a blessing. Peace to you. Please take care and never stop uploading PEAK CONTENT. you're the goat. Thank you!
Seth you're still easily my favourite power scaler so keep it up❤🎉
Hopefully he doesn't delete this because this won't get as many views as it would have prior to drama if he uploads consistently i think he can reach where he was and even further beyond
but should he?
@@sagaciouskeh if Sniper wolf can't get canceled then it should be fine
@@sagaciousk not saying what he did was right but he certainly isn't irredeemable
@@Dat_Doggolol he said should not could he. But I see what your saying
@@dantesinferno5420I see, I'm not sure he is ever reaching that level again though
Arale edit was fire 🔥
EoZ Goku's gi alone makes him OP! 🔥
GT kid Goku base vs Super Hero Base Goku
@@omnijonn277super hero absolutely violates gt
It’s all fun and games until Seth does a video on 100 year timeskip goku
Good to have you back
My glorious king posting agin 😩😩😩
Would love to see you do some Air Gear power scaling - the end of that manga is sick
Seth might just be my favorite UA-camr atleast when it comes to content like this
Keep going, keep making videos.🔥🔥
I like how you can tell end of Z Goku is a master now that he switches to his blue gi
Keep doing your thing Seth the real OG 🔥
@@Cannabeknowny’all been on his meat for the longest. And the funniest shit is you gonna keep watching his videos loser 🤡🤔🤣💪🏼
Shoutout my son Seth real ones KNOW.
Bro bro still dickriding smh @johnjacob6381
@Aigle662frileux just mad that you can't mouth that meat while he's riding it
More like the real PG required. 😂
Anyone gonna talk about how Goku Black managed to kill aralle?
Due to her being a gag character toriyama can just say she didn't exist in trunks timeline or she wasn't on planet like she's been before
there were some mortals alive in that saga, so we could say that the future saga happens before black goes to arale's town
@@Lux77899 once Goku black and zamasu become primordial zamasu and envelope the earth he kills every living being on the planet mate, which would include aralle (trunks confirms it when he says every life he could sense before is gone)
@toonamis2639 arale is an android, im supposing he cant sense her, but well since thats infinite zamasu we can actually assume that he beat her and that could justify why zeno had to appear, plus a mere beerus hakai deleted that one guy, so im just assuming that zamasu got so strong that he could bypass her toonforce,this going by hack nullification theory
@@Lux77899Arale isn't really an artificial human or "android" like most of Red Ribbon's creations. She's a robot. There are certain differences.
I'm glad about the consistent upload after many months of break. Hope more videos come soon.
Welcome back sir
Bro please try to upload more frequently if possible. We missed your content.
Awesome video, Seth. Good to see you back and doing well. Hopefully you and SSJRyu1 can collab more.
You really are the dragon ball UA-camr GOAT Seth. ❤❤❤
Im glad you're coming back. I hope your mind state is much better
Another banger post🗣
So glad you are uploading again
when bro pulled the calculations yall know its gon be a treat
Finally he’s back!
This is hilarious I’m gonna love throwing this on other scalers who like to use narrative arguments
Good to see you're back. Always like your perspective on this stuff!
Arale = "Original Deadpool"
Thanks for more great content 👏
The goat is back
final goku is soooo hack that even vegeta simply gave up challenging him.
When did Vegeta give up challenging him?
in GT@@Shaneo0oo
You're such a chad, seth. I'm so glad that you're back.
Happy to see u hope u change we still love you and your content 100
Omg a Seth video welcome back favorite UA-cam power scaler
CC Goku and Xeno Goku : *yawning*
Oh we are so back!!!
As for the 5 years thing when was the last time goku and bulma have actually been on panel together i feel like broly was the last true time, they didn’t in moro, granolah or superhero so i think that statement still applies
nice video seth
Ay yo you're back.
Good to see you upload again.
For a second I thought Seth was going to do another daily Content dump like that one time for like a week straight
Keep going Seth your one of the OG's
The writing in this video is tight and very well done
Arale has toon force. She's basically the writer's apostle
Happy to see you back brother.
Glad to see that you don't misinterpret Beerus as being stronger than Arale. So many fans who don't understand Arale as a character get this wrong. And this was at a point in the story where Beerus has too look threatening.
Beerus was supposed to be stronger than arale and he is ,every anime content is directly under the toriyama guidance no toyotaro interference.
Goku Black killed Arale
@@TheUncivilizedNationproof??
@@gregkareem9824 Goku Black was stated to have life wiped all of Universe 7 except Earth. And on Earth there’s a group of survivors called the Earth Resistance and they’re the last people alive after Black’s rampage. Future Arale was not seen amongst the Resistance. Black wiped out half of Earth’s population in the first day of him being there. He probably killed Arale day 1. Even if she somehow survived Black she absolutely did not survive Infinite Zamasu destroying all life on Earth. In a roundabout way Goku Black still killed Arale
@@TheUncivilizedNation Arale > zeno > infinite zamasu lol
Taking a Mexican magazine as valid info is actually crazy, big W
It’s not a Mexican magazine, it’s a Spanish magazine that released in Spain.
Imagine how strong GT Goku would be by the End if he was canon? Hoooooly jeez
The reality is: Toriyama doesn't remember his own cannon and doesn't really care if things are canonical or if there's retcons/mistakes.
Yessir Seth’s back our fav powerscaler
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 wish i had some bud to blaze with this got to re-watch when i re-up
End of Z goku is still my favorite design.
The “the binding of Isaac” music caught me the hell off guard during the speculation phase
Love this guy keep up the consistency ❤
Oh no, it's the smell is Superman's W fading out of existence
@Seth that was some pretty neat editing on 14:11 ! Appreciate to see there’s more effort being put into your vid’s!
Uub is basically if kid Buu calmed down and trained.
Now I want a video on 100 year timeskip Goku.
He is the god of dragon ball
Binding of isaac music in the background?? Based.
It would be crazy for the next arc to be black frieza and at the beginning goku leaves with uub and black frieza comes around so vegeta gohan and piccolo gotta fight him
Nah man vegeta deserves that solo kill
@@aka-fusion8909 Frieza is not gonna die again whether you like it or not.
@@ryukishi07thecreator70 yes ik that u dingus, I’m just saying if ANYONE deserves the kill it’s vegeta. If u looked at comments I made on other videos I’ve said that they prolly won’t kill off frieza for marketing purposes and ur basing what I say off of one comment when we never even spoke before 😂
Ur a loser
The goat has returned to us 🙌🏾‼️
That opening was fire
The goat is back (again)
at this point is it really canon anymore, super goku could be stronger than whis by the time he fights Uub its so stupid man the story has lost the plot completely.
Hush bot
@@NateBullock-ow6on you like basic power level sht that lacks critical thinking skills huh
@@NateBullock-ow6on I don't see how this is a bot....
Lets goooooooo we're so back.
They foreshadowed Goku using 100% ultra instatinct in base right? What if end of Z base goku is infact his Prime
That would be boring, I still like seeing transformations and stuff. Maybe he goes back to early Z where he only uses the kaioken technique which would be cool
dude, Arale has god tier reality manipulating abilities based on what she can do alone she’s guaranteed to be the strongest fictional thing to exist and if Goku is stronger than her than holy shit, Goku is quite literally the most overpowered anime character ever and quite literally solos all of fiction
Jesus Christ. Arale comes w/ the default package of a jojos final boss superpower
Good to have you back Seth