Also same people who are all about forced birth. Makes sense. Without forced birth, you wouldn't have all those babies on hand to drown. For goodness and glory. I guess
@@jwsanders1214 According to the story, multiple entire civilizations existed at the time. I assume some of the entire population drowned were infants.
@@ShroudoftheLogos Do you have any idea how many alleged "last words" have been attributed to Voltaire? I always thought the more famous "now is the not the time for making new enemies" was a little too neat and convenient to be true. The more desperately blatantly biased one you presented is somehow _even less_ convincing.
@@ShroudoftheLogos False, like so many such 'last words' fabricated by theists. But let's say it's true, it merely condemns this so called god even more 🤣
Always remember that rationality, logic, and skepticism are not character traits, they’re actions. People sometimes do rationality and skepticism, and sometimes they don’t. I just wish they’d do it for religion more.
How can these fundies not simply plainly look at the ridiculousness, and clearly evil nature of what they are accepting as fact? They must be trained and conditioned from an early age, being raised with and surrounded by this nonsense, then get weekly reinforcement with repetitive slogans, mental tricks, and traps meant to ward off logic...Oh, right…typical...never mind.
If they could be rational, they would be rational. I reasoned away religion at about 9 years old. He is past middle age. If he was capable of critical thinking, it would have happened by now.
An easier question you should have asked: Hosts: "Did God regret making the people, so he drowned them to start over?" Caller: Yes Hosts: "So you're alleging that God is either not all-knowing, that he couldn't see far enough into the future to predict that he would need to start over, or you're alleging that he's not all-powerful, because he wasn't able to create better conditions (since he sets the conditions and the rules) for the world that didn't require a flood from the get-go? Caller: 🤡
That's not true. They clearly were not innocent if God had to resist to such drastic measures. Read more about the days of and before the flood and you'll see why. Humanity and nearly all creatures of the earth became corrupted at a genetic level by the watchers ( fallen angles)
It is also specious to think there were not at least ONE other family who were still righteous enough to give YHWH a woody. Those kinds of brownosing lickspittles are EVERYWHERE and EVERYWHEN. I recommend the sitcom "Everyone Else Burns" to those who have cast out the Stupid in their Hearts to see if they recognize any of their relation in the story.
Whoa! I never thought of that. Yeah, if I'm gonna do some big killing, I want to be sure that I get proper results. Also, if god can see all things, including the past and the future, would he not have seen that humans would be unchanged by the flood? The Babble is full of wickedness, sorta like today. So god killed millions just for shits and giggles. Sick fuk.
@@lnsflare1eh poor example. "Were you there?" _"No"_ "Exactly so how can you say-" _"Were you there?"_ But questions that are open ended are often phrased by Christians as closed questions. Eg. "well if god exists then sin is real so do you think sin is bad?" This sounds like a yes or no question but it's not it's got 3 premises that the answerer has to answer.
Especially if what you posit is unmitigated evil. Q: "What did the baby do that warranted being drowned?" A:..."well, I know it sounds awful, but..." It sounds awful because it is, and you know it. Of course you know. Everyone knows it's completely, heartbreakingly, indefensibly awful.
Andrea Yates didn’t drown her kids so that she would go to heaven, she drowned them so that they would go to heaven. It was supposed to be an act of sacrifice. But really that’s just an indictment of Christianity, because if the system is true then Andrea is a hero.
@@Leith_Crowther Yeah, but as the things look like, she basically unalived her 5 kids because of a fairy tale story that has hundreds of debunked claims and hundreds of contradictions/inconsistencies that she could not figure out somehow!
My elementary school buddy and his younger sister were both drowned by their Christian mother for similar reasons. Then she unalived herself. So, yeah, it makes sense on a theological level. I'm just glad the mom didn't off all of us who were at the birthday party earlier that day. Small miracles 😂
I'll never understand why people would get their 'science' 'knowledge' from a pastor who's never received a science degree. (and probably never took a science class past 8th grade).
I think this is a problem that doesn't quite as much exist over the pond. Priests and ministers here all go to university to get that role... All legit universities. Not a shack with a cross painted onto it
@@williamwatson4354 Thanos is not only less compassionate, but also a fool, he killed a gazillion sentient beings for no reason. Although it is clear, that his character was written by an uneducated scribbler, who described his own way to thinking.
@@iridios6127 how is it possible to have less compassion then a being that inflicts infinite suffering on people for merely not believing in impossible absurdities by questionable sources for no, and against all reason?
@@williamwatson4354 Well, we don't know how painful that death was. Although for metahumans with a healing factor, it was definitely painful (poor Spidey). I was 😢😢 I would be horrified at the sight of my body crumbling to dust. Not to mention the bodycount going beyond all comprehension.
God: Can turn one woman into a pillar of salt for turning around Also God: Can't be bothered to smite the evuls, guess I'll drown innocents /oldmanshrug
He's been indoctrinated to believe that he does. That's good enough for him. He doesn't care about how insane he sounds to the rest of the world. My parents are the same way, and it makes me sad, every day.
Wouldn't it be fun to just be able to make up bullshit and run your mouth with no conscience? We should probably get the Austin Atheist community to do a spoof series hosted by Reverend Mammon who picks anything in the bible and takes off, building an entire mythology in improv. Really great comedy material. Planet Kolob. Planet Joseph Smith. The Church of the Wholly Profit.
I guess the real question is "What made the bugs?" You'll get no answers here though. These guys only discredit, disparage and denigrate anyone who dares to believe they have an answer.
So let me get this straight. The omnipotent and omniscient Christian God drowned a whole world full of "sinful" people to include pregnant women and innocent children, only to replace them with people who are even MORE sinful? 🤔 This deity is not very bright, is it? 😂😂😂😂
On the coutrary, this deity is superbright! He knew there would be a magical apple in the world. That magical Apple created iPhone... and so God knowing fully well that there's going to be iPhone in the world, was the first to create an app for it. It was called iSin .... and not only that, God created version control..... because the first version of it failed, so he made a virus to the app called Noah's Flood, and the virus would clear the first version so he could place in fresh installment of iSin 2.0 which includes modern human. Fkn brilliant I say!
@ZERO_O7X yeah it's always free will til you point out how that makes no sense, then all of a sudden it's "God's plan" "maybe he has something better in store"
"They're feeding you lies With calculating smiles Enslavement of the human mind As long as you kneel to their authority Religion, it's what makes you blind They'll treat all you as mindless fools They use you as obedient tools It's time to set your spirit free" 'Slaves of Fear' by Amon Amarth
How would Noah feed every different species on Earth for an entire year? --Some species only eat other animals --One adult lion eats 10-25 pounds of meat in one day (10 x 365 = 3650 pounds of meat on the low end) --Some species only eat very specific diets found only in certain parts of the world How would Noah know how to medically care for every species on Earth? Did Noah get his degree in veterinary medicine from God? If the flood killed everything besides the animals on the boat, what would these animals eat when they get off the boat? How did animals from all over the Earth get to the ark? How did species that only exist on mountain tops cross oceans to get to the ark? How did these species get back to where they came from after leaving the ark when there was nothing to eat during their journey?
There are 6.5 million species of land dwelling animals. It's physically impossible, even with all our modern technology to create a boat that size even today. Not to mention that if the only people on that boat were all related that we'd all be inbred. 😂 Logic and religion can't exist in the same brain and people like Rob prove it.
Okay, you have to STOP IT with this math, science, logic, reality thing! Dang! Don't you know the Book of Insanity, Batshittery, Lies and Equivocations is EVERY WORD TRUE!?!?! I mean, I live in Oklahoma and we have snakes and I'm SURE if I asked one, he could tell me about his ancestor in the book! We have donkeys, and I'm SURE that they tell the people who keep them what they want to eat and give solid advice on the good treatment of other animals! I mean, you just have to BELIEVE! 🙄😂
I have never encountered "they", or anybody else that wanted me to believe a thing. I have to do that myself if I want to believe something. Like I tell the scam callers, "If I want anything, I'll call YOU".
Chinese historical records for example, go back about 8000 years[before the time of Noah's flood]. They have no record of their country being underwater. Maybe some of them built a raft then Noah came across them and helped them onto his arc. Yeh, that's what must have happened.
Funny how the 3 pieces of "evidence" he presented were about geology and plays tectonics, not evolution. In this battle of wits, he definitely came unarmed.
The best (or worst) part is that if a global flood happened, then all aquatic life got killed by god thanks to all the fresh water being mixed with salt water.
I believe that the assumption is that the Noah's flood story is all true, the world got covered by water, the clams living in the water made it up to the top of a mountain whilst it was still under water, then died there and got fossilized after the water receded. So they point to the clams as proof of the flood story.
@@kanidd1 Elevations changed . The mountains were once sea floor . Yes , Mount Everest has sea shell fossils at the summit . It's not that mt Everest existed at the time of the Genesis Flood , but it was pushed up after the flood by Tectonic Plate collision . I live in Colorado and have an excavation business and have dug up clam shells high in the Rocky Mountains in Shale which is rock layer formed by underwater volcanic activity . Yes the flood is true
@@kanidd1 Earth that used to be at the bottom of the ocean being pused up and turned into mountains via tectonic plates, thus showing fossilized clams at the top of mountains makes more sense than a supposed global flood. People who told stories about a flood covering the entire world didn't kn ow much about the world while living near floodplaines, making them think thatt everything got flooded.
@@neversayxever Yea, well! I have no objective morals, so I can ask questions like that. I guess. I hope I didn't offend anyone now. Said in honor of Dave ¨No bullshit¨ Warnock!
@@Leith_CrowtherPeople that want to hurt people for immutable qualities that harm no one really are in fact bad people and should be contributed with contempt, I don't know if you know this, but bigotry is not a good thing LOL
@@jwsanders1214 fair enough, there's a lot of common indoctrination speak in churches, granted it's been 15 years I ever stepped foot in a church and Sunday school as a Catholic/Christian.
Proposed Rule: Whenever anyone claims that "they" found/proved/discovered something, that person needs to cite who exactly "they" are. A little extra work, I know; but important information, I think.
So clams were found to have been burried alive, fossilized on the top of a mountain. Were they: A. From when the mountain was a sea bed and the mountain grew to its current height? B. Living on top of a mountain for a year durring a magic flood that covered the earth and burried them as it receeded?
Rob's hypothesis about the clams on Mt Everest refutes itself. He thinks they couldn't have risen up along with the mountain because once they died they would have opened. Obviously, the clams are not alive nowadays, yet they are closed.
@@jwsanders1214 You have access to more information in your pocket than all of humanity has ever had access to, and you’re still willingly ignorant of the sciences. I pity you.
@@jwsanders1214 The land on top of Mt Everest was once submerged. Did you know that? The Himalayas are still growing, thrown up when the Indian subcontinent slammed into south-central Asia millions of years ago.
@@jwsanders1214 "but I'm not saying that the flood waters reached 28000 feet" So you admit the Bible is lying about the flood waters covering all the earth. Good, a person would have to be really stupid to believe the flood.
You all should consider the Kali Gandaki river gorge in the Himalayas. This is likely to have been formed by the the river that flowed into the sea before the collision of the Indian sub continent with the Asia plate. The river still flows out of the high plateau, through the mountains and on to the Ganges.
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion" Steven Weinberg.
@@Steve-sg3uz There are schools of philosophy without theology. Maybe you should give them a read. Though seeing your track record, you probably won't and just keep trolling.
@@Steve-sg3uz In this context, the objective harm caused to others. The fact that Rob is happy to defend the supposed mass genocide committed by his "pro life" and "all loving God", is a fairly good testament to how religiosity can make otherwise good people accept and or do bad things that they themselves would never normally do or condone on their own accord.
@@Steve-sg3uz Well, I called it. You really are just going to make some logical fallacies and run away from a proper discussion and intelligence too it seems. How about this, read some introductory paragraphs from the wikipedia page of: Secular Humanism Existentialism Stoicism Logical Positivism Empiricism Pragmatism Analytic Philosophy Deconstruction Utilitarianism Phenomenology And then you come back with what you learned. Not that difficult is it? I'm sure even 12th graders can do that. Go go feed that lump of fat in your craneum.
@@Steve-sg3uz You sound like a presuppositionalist... I hope not, they are among the most dishonest people Ive ever come across. First off, as far as I am aware, there is not such thing as "divinity", its a abstract construct only. Secondly, this is really simple: do you want to be punched in the face or murdered? No.... then they are "bad" things and you shouldnt do them to others. You dont want someone to steal your stuff, then dont steal someone elses' stuff. And the list of things you dont want to happen to you, and that better society in general, goes on. Its that simple, I dont know why its so hard for you to understand... "Harm" is not part of the "evolutionary process", your comment clearly indicates that you do not comprehend the Theory of Evolution. As far as anyone knows, there is no such thing as "Hell", so why would I ever worry about it? Do you worry about Naraka, the Hindu version of "Hell"? I bet you dont, and I feel the same way about the Christian "Hell".
@@Steve-sg3uz "philosophies of the great atheist leaders, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot?" Thats called a Straw man fallacy, which clearly shows that you're a troll or an uneducated fool who isnt worth wasting time on. Your comments about "divinity", "evolutionary process" and "Hell", seem to also indicate that you're a troll or just really uneducated, so again, a waste of time. Go back to high school and try to get a basic education, then come back and maybe you can carry on a proper adult conversation.
@@dma8657 You are fixing to see something worse than the Genesis Flood , but God has promised to remove all the innocents before he pours out his wrath , I believe he did the same thing before the flood
They'll hold on to their belief so tightly they'll throw away reason, dismiss anything that opposes them but accept anything that backs them up, even if that thing is proven wrong by everyone else!
My comeback on shells found on top of mount Everest is simple.... if it were to rain and increase the water levels to cover mountains what make you think the shells left the sea bed and floated 5 miles high in the water then got trapped when the water receded. Go check the sea bed when its raining and see if the shell start floating
Rob's response trying to connect his brain with his morals .... "...what was evil, what, what,...there were pregnant animals too... you're, you're, you're..." and then his morals died literally on a cross.
Why don't you guys point out that if there was a global flood all sea life and freshwater life would die because of the brackish water. Did Noah have fish tanks?
Because there wouldn't be brackish water? I think you think of the world at that time as it appears today. The whole of continents sunk due to water coming from beneath. The amount of fresh water from the deep, plus the water from the heavens, would leave the earth's small oceans filled with fresh water. We did not have large oceans until after the flood.
The trees passing through multiple layers thing is real. Polystrate fossils. It has only ever been seen with trees though, and trees are arguably unique in that they can remain standing for potentially centuries after they die, which gives plenty of time for seasonal deposition to occur around them and build up in the right circumstances.
Steve is arguing that abortion is murder. Murder: "The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another." Since abortion is legal it is by definition, not murder. Time to drop that argument.
Speaking as someone who is pro-choice, I would say that the semantics of it doesn't matter. Their point is that it SHOULD be murder because it is just as malicious as murder with the only difference being that it is lawful.
Which means that it will be classified as murder once it becomes illegal. Word games are always just word games, it never works as an argument. Same if you tried to say that a fetus isn't an human. I'm pro choice, but for me someone trying to use word games to defend their position is a red flag showing they don't have any other arguments. Word games will never convince anyone, at best they will replace "murder" by "sacrificing an human life" for the rest of the argument
How did Noah keep the animal predators from eating the prey on the ark? Where were the bugs and mosquitoes hanging out? Noah was righteous from God’s eyes, but what about his children? Were they perfect souls too? What did the family eat if only one of each animal was on board and they couldn’t grow crops? No refrigeration back then, so how did they keep the food fresh?
@@jodytrees Exactly. Such a nonsense story. God was also disappointed with Adam and Eve. Why did he not eliminate them in the beginning and start over again with more obedient humans?
@@susankievman642 is what gets me about this story is humanity is still really evil. Crimes happen every day. So the flood really didn't solve that. I don't see why more people can't see this
@@susankievman642It's amazing just how many problems there are with the bible. Ever since I deconverted, I'd been asking these types of questions, which are much less obvious than other things like fate and free will, the problem of suffering, the problem with Eden, heck even heaven is a problem.
There were dinosaurs because Adam and Eve told Yahweh that the walk to church was too far and they wanted something to ride. He sent them a T Rex, which was very thoughtful because they were able to park anywhere they wanted without being hassled.
First thing that Forrest should have said after the caller stated his "evidence" being contrary to evolution is that nothing that the caller said had anything to do with evolution. Sometimes theists call everything scientific as being evolution.
13:32 that actually is a leading factor to why insect sizes blew up, I don’t remember what happened, maybe algae? But something had taken over and created a shit ton of oxygen as a by product and it allowed the insects to grow in size
So even a child, who can read is able to fact check the claims of the creationinsts and they have the audacity to lie in the light of solid facts. How demented one have to be to willingly put on the hat of a liar? Seriously, what kind of mental state required to live like that?
Yeah… giant insects and Dino’s were 70 million years apart. Didn’t happen! This guy is so far down the rabbit hole, he must not sleep at night, always worried about hell. What did he do that was so bad, he might go to hell?
Why have none of the pyramids had water damage? Knowing it took decades and 100 of thousands of people to build just one. and only 8 people on the ark.
The point these people miss is it wouldn't matter if evolution was disproved. It still doesn't mean a god did it. That's a false dichotomy. There could be a third explanation, a fourth, and so on.
If a god was able to create everything and realized that his creation was flawed he should be tough enough to admit it was his fault he didn't have to kill all his creation another crazy story from the Bible
I find it fascinating that otherwise intelligent people so easily cast aside facts, logic, reason, and basic common sense when it comes to the supernatural......
I've yet to meet a layman who disputes Evolution because he's impartial and weighed the evidence. To a man, everyone I've encountered who does so, does because he's wedded to a literal interpretation of a Bronze Age Creation myth that he's decided is revealed truth.
An easier question you should have asked: Hosts: "Did God regret making the people, so he drowned them to start over?" Caller: Yes Hosts: "So you're alleging that God is either not all-knowing, that he couldn't see far enough into the future to predict that he would need to start over, or you're alleging that he's not all-powerful, because he wasn't able to create better conditions (since he sets the conditions and the rules) for the world that didn't require a flood from the get-go? Caller: 🤡
And apologists will say it's because of free will. If you point out gratuitous evil, then it's gonna be evil or satan at play. Because it's always reassuring to invent an imagery enemy than to admit that their god is fundamentally wrong, before pivoting to saying atheists have no objective moral standards to say god is evil.
@@brandonng2883I would point out that there is no free will, because God has a plan for everyone, and he is directly intervening in human affairs, which destroys any free will. You can't have free will and fate at the same time.
@@infinitedeath1384 hmm, I've used that argument too that predestination and free will simply can't coexist as it defeats the omniscience of god. However, I've read how they reply and it's not good. They'll say free will exists and that human decides their own fate and that's why evil exists because people stray from teaching of god. If free will doesn't exist, it would mean evil people are inherently evil and that would includes babies. That means, in an atheistic worldview, it is okay to delete evil babies/teens/adults.
@@tonydarcy1606 I don’t believe in the bible but what he’s saying is that the flood waters carried the clams to the mountains. If you don’t grasp what he’s saying then you are stupider than he is.
"Babies Dying In Noah's Flood Was A Good Thing!"
These are the same people who ask you : "If you are an atheist, where does YOUR morality come from?"
Also same people who are all about forced birth.
Makes sense. Without forced birth, you wouldn't have all those babies on hand to drown. For goodness and glory. I guess
@@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral"BuT wE hAvE tO hAvE bAbIeS bEcAuSe Of ThE aLrEaDy RiDiCuLoUsLy HiGh PoPuLaTiOn"
@@Not_An_EV This man is speaking the language of God 😱
Why do you think there were Babies who died in the Genesis flood ?
@@jwsanders1214 According to the story, multiple entire civilizations existed at the time. I assume some of the entire population drowned were infants.
_“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”_
― Voltaire
Voltaire's dying words.
“I am abandoned by God and man! I shall go to hell!
O Christ, O Jesus Christ!”
@@ShroudoftheLogos Do you have any idea how many alleged "last words" have been attributed to Voltaire? I always thought the more famous "now is the not the time for making new enemies" was a little too neat and convenient to be true. The more desperately blatantly biased one you presented is somehow _even less_ convincing.
@@ShroudoftheLogos False, like so many such 'last words' fabricated by theists. But let's say it's true, it merely condemns this so called god even more 🤣
@@freakishuproar1168 I like the new enemies one. That is clever.
@@outermarker5801 Not sure how you arrive at that conclusion.
It’s depressing just what religious indoctrination can do to what could be a rational human being.
Always remember that rationality, logic, and skepticism are not character traits, they’re actions. People sometimes do rationality and skepticism, and sometimes they don’t. I just wish they’d do it for religion more.
How can these fundies not simply plainly look at the ridiculousness, and clearly evil nature of what they are accepting as fact? They must be trained and conditioned from an early age, being raised with and surrounded by this nonsense, then get weekly reinforcement with repetitive slogans, mental tricks, and traps meant to ward off logic...Oh, right…typical...never mind.
If they could be rational, they would be rational. I reasoned away religion at about 9 years old. He is past middle age. If he was capable of critical thinking, it would have happened by now.
Aaaamennnn!
@@Facetiously.EsotericIf he wasn’t capable of critical thinking, he’d be dead by now.
The Christians that came up with God being all-powerful and all-knowing really backed future Christians into a corner.
Well they needed that clause to make people take their religion seriously. The competition is tough
An easier question you should have asked:
Hosts: "Did God regret making the people, so he drowned them to start over?"
Caller: Yes
Hosts: "So you're alleging that God is either not all-knowing, that he couldn't see far enough into the future to predict that he would need to start over, or you're alleging that he's not all-powerful, because he wasn't able to create better conditions (since he sets the conditions and the rules) for the world that didn't require a flood from the get-go?
Caller: 🤡
@@neversayxever They should've never have competed with the god of wine, parties and orgy. Why did they think mass was a good substitute?
@@pshayes I doubt you'll get a yes or no answer for a yes or no question
@@pshayes Exactly 😂👍
F*ck your god, Rob. My favorite line.
Read something besides the dumb holy book, Rob.
Slow clap
Brilliant.
F*ck god and rob.
“He has a doctorate, just not in one of YOUR schools”
Dude, he made his doctorate in a shed, what are you talking about.
Lol a PhD in the School of Hard Knocks 😂
Wait, do we have schools? Are those OURS? Why didn't anyone tell me? Hehe
@@SerranoSalazarwish I knew that before I pay'd back my student loans.
Not a shed. A trailer.
@@SerranoSalazar When you are a Creation Cretin REALITY is your enemy and schools that make an effort to teach it are EVIL...
Billions of innocent animals and humans died in noahs flood, glad it never happened.
This tale evolved from Osiris getting a piece of ass.
That's not true. They clearly were not innocent if God had to resist to such drastic measures. Read more about the days of and before the flood and you'll see why. Humanity and nearly all creatures of the earth became corrupted at a genetic level by the watchers ( fallen angles)
@@harveywabbit9541Oh, who's cheeks did he clap?
It is also specious to think there were not at least ONE other family who were still righteous enough to give YHWH a woody.
Those kinds of brownosing lickspittles are EVERYWHERE and EVERYWHEN.
I recommend the sitcom "Everyone Else Burns" to those who have cast out the Stupid in their Hearts to see if they recognize any of their relation in the story.
The fact that humans are still as wicked after gods flood kinda defeats his purpose 🤔
I've seen some very naughty clams too. A flood should have teach them a lesson too.
Whoa! I never thought of that.
Yeah, if I'm gonna do some big killing, I want to be sure that I get proper results. Also, if god can see all things, including the past and the future, would he not have seen that humans would be unchanged by the flood? The Babble is full of wickedness, sorta like today. So god killed millions just for shits and giggles. Sick fuk.
Not really. People are still sinners by birth.
@@frankfurter63an underdeveloped brain and body is a sinner for being born against its will ….sure bud
@@frankfurter63 that's my point 🙄 jezo
Here’s the rule: if you vomit up 30 seconds of mouth noise in answer to a yes or no question, your cred is toast.
To be fair, sometimes yes or no questions can be worded in such a way as to be extremely misleading, like the Creationist "Were you there?" schtick.
@@lnsflare1eh poor example.
"Were you there?"
_"No"_
"Exactly so how can you say-"
_"Were you there?"_
But questions that are open ended are often phrased by Christians as closed questions.
Eg.
"well if god exists then sin is real so do you think sin is bad?" This sounds like a yes or no question but it's not it's got 3 premises that the answerer has to answer.
Especially if what you posit is unmitigated evil.
Q: "What did the baby do that warranted being drowned?"
A:..."well, I know it sounds awful, but..."
It sounds awful because it is, and you know it. Of course you know. Everyone knows it's completely, heartbreakingly, indefensibly awful.
Also, if you cite Kent Hovind as a source then your argument is lost.
Rob is the kind of person who could be convinced to drown babies so he will goes to heaven.
Andrea Yates didn’t drown her kids so that she would go to heaven, she drowned them so that they would go to heaven. It was supposed to be an act of sacrifice. But really that’s just an indictment of Christianity, because if the system is true then Andrea is a hero.
@@Leith_Crowther Yeah, but as the things look like, she basically unalived her 5 kids because of a fairy tale story that has hundreds of debunked claims and hundreds of contradictions/inconsistencies that she could not figure out somehow!
We’re all going to hell, no one is worthy of a heaven, if there was one.
@@Leith_CrowtherI *do* consider her a Christian hero. That's the point, and why I am an atheist now.
My elementary school buddy and his younger sister were both drowned by their Christian mother for similar reasons. Then she unalived herself.
So, yeah, it makes sense on a theological level.
I'm just glad the mom didn't off all of us who were at the birthday party earlier that day. Small miracles 😂
I'll never understand why people would get their 'science' 'knowledge' from a pastor who's never received a science degree. (and probably never took a science class past 8th grade).
because they are determined to ignore the truth about reality, and will latch on to any counter-argument someone presents, no matter how ridiculous.
Cause it gives them justification for their nonsensical beliefs, staying ignorant allows them to continue believing their bullshit
Pssst… it’s because they’re stupid
I think this is a problem that doesn't quite as much exist over the pond.
Priests and ministers here all go to university to get that role... All legit universities.
Not a shack with a cross painted onto it
I wonder if they would also be OK with getting their religious knowledge from a science teacher?
I've said it before and I'll repeat myself. When Thanos the Titan is more compassionate than the all loving God, something is fundamentally wrong.
@@williamwatson4354
Thanos is not only less compassionate, but also a fool, he killed a gazillion sentient beings for no reason. Although it is clear, that his character was written by an uneducated scribbler, who described his own way to thinking.
@@iridios6127 I'm not supporting Thanos but killing people with a snap is far kinder than killing the 🌎 by flooding
@@iridios6127 how is it possible to have less compassion then a being that inflicts infinite suffering on people for merely not believing in impossible absurdities by questionable sources for no, and against all reason?
@@williamwatson4354
Well, we don't know how painful that death was. Although for metahumans with a healing factor, it was definitely painful (poor Spidey). I was 😢😢
I would be horrified at the sight of my body crumbling to dust. Not to mention the bodycount going beyond all comprehension.
You mean like your God? Your God literally slaughtered an entire planet so actually no Thanos is still much less evil@@iridios6127
Wow....I've never, in my life, heard someone try to justify drowning babies...that was a wild ride.
Just awful, disgusting how do these people live with themselves 🤮
God: Can turn one woman into a pillar of salt for turning around
Also God: Can't be bothered to smite the evuls, guess I'll drown innocents /oldmanshrug
Cameron voice
Rob clearly doesn't understand any science from biology to plate tectonic
Sssssss.
Plate techtonicsssssss.
He's been indoctrinated to believe that he does. That's good enough for him. He doesn't care about how insane he sounds to the rest of the world. My parents are the same way, and it makes me sad, every day.
I've noticed that when Canadians go anti-science and/or MAGAt, they go HARD.
To Rob, those are all the same thing
Wouldn't it be fun to just be able to make up bullshit and run your mouth with no conscience? We should probably get the Austin Atheist community to do a spoof series hosted by Reverend Mammon who picks anything in the bible and takes off, building an entire mythology in improv. Really great comedy material. Planet Kolob. Planet Joseph Smith. The Church of the Wholly Profit.
When it comes to religion,all logic and morals go out the window 😢
A light didn’t make bugs, it just attracts them. Religion is a light bulb for psychos.
I guess the real question is "What made the bugs?" You'll get no answers here though. These guys only discredit, disparage and denigrate anyone who dares to believe they have an answer.
Bugs are Arthropoda so they had a bilaterian ancestor
A theist's brain has two sides: the left and the right.
On the left side, there is nothing right.
On the right side, there is nothing left.
Dang this is good. Im going to use this.
Heh, nice
So let me get this straight. The omnipotent and omniscient Christian God drowned a whole world full of "sinful" people to include pregnant women and innocent children, only to replace them with people who are even MORE sinful? 🤔 This deity is not very bright, is it? 😂😂😂😂
hes a mysterious guy...you just dont get it.
iT's HiS pLaN!1!
On the coutrary, this deity is superbright!
He knew there would be a magical apple in the world. That magical Apple created iPhone... and so God knowing fully well that there's going to be iPhone in the world, was the first to create an app for it. It was called iSin .... and not only that, God created version control..... because the first version of it failed, so he made a virus to the app called Noah's Flood, and the virus would clear the first version so he could place in fresh installment of iSin 2.0 which includes modern human.
Fkn brilliant I say!
Right. Even if I believed this stuff. Why on earth would I WORSHIP this idiotic, sociopathic deity?
@ZERO_O7X yeah it's always free will til you point out how that makes no sense, then all of a sudden it's "God's plan" "maybe he has something better in store"
"They're feeding you lies
With calculating smiles
Enslavement of the human mind
As long as you kneel to their authority
Religion, it's what makes you blind
They'll treat all you as mindless fools
They use you as obedient tools
It's time to set your spirit free"
'Slaves of Fear' by Amon Amarth
Never heard that, pretty cool poem! 🖖
Atheism: The religion that binds you into despair and suffering more than any other religion.
Bet you are a democrat who voted to kill babies in the womb , correct ? why do atheist hate life ?
And this is what religion does to your brain....
It's possible his brain was already fried in such a way that all that crap he said makes perfect sense to him.
Forrest is incredible and absolutely highly intelligent with his knowledge 👍
How would Noah feed every different species on Earth for an entire year?
--Some species only eat other animals
--One adult lion eats 10-25 pounds of meat in one day (10 x 365 = 3650 pounds of meat on the low end)
--Some species only eat very specific diets found only in certain parts of the world
How would Noah know how to medically care for every species on Earth? Did Noah get his degree in veterinary medicine from God?
If the flood killed everything besides the animals on the boat, what would these animals eat when they get off the boat?
How did animals from all over the Earth get to the ark? How did species that only exist on mountain tops cross oceans to get to the ark? How did these species get back to where they came from after leaving the ark when there was nothing to eat during their journey?
Who hosted the Guinea Worm? It only has human hosts.
And lots of diseases are human only.
There are 6.5 million species of land dwelling animals. It's physically impossible, even with all our modern technology to create a boat that size even today. Not to mention that if the only people on that boat were all related that we'd all be inbred. 😂 Logic and religion can't exist in the same brain and people like Rob prove it.
Okay, you have to STOP IT with this math, science, logic, reality thing! Dang! Don't you know the Book of Insanity, Batshittery, Lies and Equivocations is EVERY WORD TRUE!?!?! I mean, I live in Oklahoma and we have snakes and I'm SURE if I asked one, he could tell me about his ancestor in the book! We have donkeys, and I'm SURE that they tell the people who keep them what they want to eat and give solid advice on the good treatment of other animals! I mean, you just have to BELIEVE! 🙄😂
Have you considered magic is the answer?
@@Glasstable2011 Oh I've considered it. But, when their answer is magic then they have lost the debate
As soon as a caller says "they are finding...." They? They who? Citations needed.
My favorite is when they say “evolutionists”
@@ejflor1313 "evilutionists"*
"That's what they want you to believe, yeah"
A sign to end any conversation
I have never encountered "they", or anybody else that wanted me to believe a thing. I have to do that myself if I want to believe something. Like I tell the scam callers, "If I want anything, I'll call YOU".
So his justifications for global flood is that the world was too wicked and he had to do something. What did god do during ww2 then ?
Sat back and watched with a bucket of popcorn IF he existed.
Well, you know, the Wehrmacht had "gott mit uns" on their belts, so.....
But can you blame God? They had iron chariots.
Yes , the world is worse now than in the time of Noah , and yes it will be fire this time , repent
Maybe it was gods nap time?
I love listening to Forrest, but his level of knowledge makes me feel I was handed a useless brain! 🤣
Can I join the club brother? 🤷♂️
The fact that you recognize Forrest’s knowledge and appreciate it shows your brain is just fine.
An intellect devourer would walk right past Rob 😂
😂
Having a brain like his should be classed as having a super power.
Chinese historical records for example, go back about 8000 years[before the time of Noah's flood]. They have no record of their country being underwater. Maybe some of them built a raft then Noah came across them and helped them onto his arc. Yeh, that's what must have happened.
Ancient Egypt too.
Also look up Cheddar Man. That guy is older than the planet as well. Not to mention the city of Damascus.
The fact that Rob exists and he votes scares the hell out of me
And then for one of the most influential people on the planet. Much more than just scary. A non-American.
Ha Ha loser , we won ! Bet you voted to kill babies in the womb , no doubt
Funny how the 3 pieces of "evidence" he presented were about geology and plays tectonics, not evolution. In this battle of wits, he definitely came unarmed.
The clam drowned - lol
I guess clams hate water in the firmament!
They were mountain clams.
@@stephenolan5539 Are they related to mountain oysters? 😜
@@EricDellinger-t2h cousins
Fresh water mixing with sea water = no more aquatic life. Thanks for nothing, god!
I have found Clam shells in the Rocky Mountains that were 3 ft across buried in shale rock which forms after an underwater eruption
😂😂😂😂This was a hilariously educational conversation.
"You're emphasizing babies only" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
A clam, which lived underwater, was buried by a flood?
I assume they think the flood would have been so violent it disturbed ass tons of land.
The best (or worst) part is that if a global flood happened, then all aquatic life got killed by god thanks to all the fresh water being mixed with salt water.
I believe that the assumption is that the Noah's flood story is all true, the world got covered by water, the clams living in the water made it up to the top of a mountain whilst it was still under water, then died there and got fossilized after the water receded. So they point to the clams as proof of the flood story.
@@kanidd1 Elevations changed . The mountains were once sea floor . Yes , Mount Everest has sea shell fossils at the summit . It's not that mt Everest existed at the time of the Genesis Flood , but it was pushed up after the flood by Tectonic Plate collision .
I live in Colorado and have an excavation business and have dug up clam shells high in the Rocky Mountains in Shale which is rock layer formed by underwater volcanic activity . Yes the flood is true
@@kanidd1 Earth that used to be at the bottom of the ocean being pused up and turned into mountains via tectonic plates, thus showing fossilized clams at the top of mountains makes more sense than a supposed global flood.
People who told stories about a flood covering the entire world didn't kn ow much about the world while living near floodplaines, making them think thatt everything got flooded.
How is Dave doing now adays? I'm kind of worried about him. He is in my mind every now and then.
Iirc, he quit because the disease was making it more and more difficult for him to do the show. Hopefully he’s not suffering too much.
@@user-vx9jy7jl2l disease?
@@user-vx9jy7jl2l Thank you for the update.
I wanted to ask but felt bad
@@neversayxever Yea, well! I have no objective morals, so I can ask questions like that. I guess. I hope I didn't offend anyone now. Said in honor of Dave ¨No bullshit¨ Warnock!
Perhaps you should start each of these conversations by asking the caller what shape the earth is.
Rob is the kind of person who thinks that the moon landing(s) are fake and giants are real.
I got his degree from Dunning-Kruger U.
Go Dunning-Kruger U!!!
@@paulboger7377”Gimme a ‘D’!….’
This is the prefect example of what the belief in these books
can do to the Brain...
And people say we should keep religion around because "it gives people comfort." Yeah, sure. So comforting...
Haven’t seen Forrest really angry in a long time, this should be good.
Awe! Forrest didn’t go crazy ape shit angry on the guy?
Must have something to do with never having a bad day.
The caller didn’t say anything bad about trans people this time.
@@Leith_Crowther
That’s only because the topic never came up!
@@Leith_CrowtherPeople that want to hurt people for immutable qualities that harm no one really are in fact bad people and should be contributed with contempt, I don't know if you know this, but bigotry is not a good thing LOL
I am Canadian and I know we learned about plate tectonics around grade 6-8.
I love Forrest! He reminds me of my favorite teacher growing up. FYI that teacher was while I was in a catholic school.
What the hell did I just hear from this caller? OMG! What he's saying is beyond nutty.
Any former Christians here remember this in church?
"Religion will lift the veil put over one's eyes"
when it's actually the one putting on the veil.
Nope
@@jwsanders1214 You are forner christian?
@@jwsanders1214 fair enough, there's a lot of common indoctrination speak in churches, granted it's been 15 years I ever stepped foot in a church and Sunday school as a Catholic/Christian.
Proposed Rule: Whenever anyone claims that "they" found/proved/discovered something, that person needs to cite who exactly "they" are.
A little extra work, I know; but important information, I think.
So clams were found to have been burried alive, fossilized on the top of a mountain. Were they:
A. From when the mountain was a sea bed and the mountain grew to its current height?
B. Living on top of a mountain for a year durring a magic flood that covered the earth and burried them as it receeded?
C. Planted by alien space bats to fuck with human minds?
@@bradmathis8196 as equally as plausible as B.
@@bradmathis8196 Have these space bats written a book so I can properly worship them? :P
Rob's hypothesis about the clams on Mt Everest refutes itself. He thinks they couldn't have risen up along with the mountain because once they died they would have opened. Obviously, the clams are not alive nowadays, yet they are closed.
thinking there was a global flood 4000 years ago is literaly crazier than thinking the earth is flat
There are clam shells fossils on top of Everest , but I'm not saying that the flood waters reached 28000 feet
@@jwsanders1214 There was no flood, you're just ignorant who doesn't know how mountains formed.
@@jwsanders1214
You have access to more information in your pocket than all of humanity has ever had access to, and you’re still willingly ignorant of the sciences.
I pity you.
@@jwsanders1214
The land on top of Mt Everest was once submerged. Did you know that? The Himalayas are still growing, thrown up when the Indian subcontinent slammed into south-central Asia millions of years ago.
@@jwsanders1214 "but I'm not saying that the flood waters reached 28000 feet"
So you admit the Bible is lying about the flood waters covering all the earth. Good, a person would have to be really stupid to believe the flood.
You all should consider the Kali Gandaki river gorge in the Himalayas. This is likely to have been formed by the the river that flowed into the sea before the collision of the Indian sub continent with the Asia plate. The river still flows out of the high plateau, through the mountains and on to the Ganges.
Kent Hovind's "doctorate" was printed on the back of a Chinese takeout menu. 🤣
@@christopheraaron8299 Didn’t even have to eat all the caramel popcorn first…
Those mountains are also made of limestone which forms in shallow marine environments.
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion"
Steven Weinberg.
@@Steve-sg3uz There are schools of philosophy without theology. Maybe you should give them a read. Though seeing your track record, you probably won't and just keep trolling.
@@Steve-sg3uz
In this context, the objective harm caused to others.
The fact that Rob is happy to defend the supposed mass genocide committed by his "pro life" and "all loving God", is a fairly good testament to how religiosity can make otherwise good people accept and or do bad things that they themselves would never normally do or condone on their own accord.
@@Steve-sg3uz Well, I called it. You really are just going to make some logical fallacies and run away from a proper discussion and intelligence too it seems.
How about this, read some introductory paragraphs from the wikipedia page of:
Secular Humanism
Existentialism
Stoicism
Logical Positivism
Empiricism
Pragmatism
Analytic Philosophy
Deconstruction
Utilitarianism
Phenomenology
And then you come back with what you learned. Not that difficult is it? I'm sure even 12th graders can do that.
Go go feed that lump of fat in your craneum.
@@Steve-sg3uz
You sound like a presuppositionalist... I hope not, they are among the most dishonest people Ive ever come across.
First off, as far as I am aware, there is not such thing as "divinity", its a abstract construct only.
Secondly, this is really simple: do you want to be punched in the face or murdered? No.... then they are "bad" things and you shouldnt do them to others.
You dont want someone to steal your stuff, then dont steal someone elses' stuff.
And the list of things you dont want to happen to you, and that better society in general, goes on.
Its that simple, I dont know why its so hard for you to understand...
"Harm" is not part of the "evolutionary process", your comment clearly indicates that you do not comprehend the Theory of Evolution.
As far as anyone knows, there is no such thing as "Hell", so why would I ever worry about it?
Do you worry about Naraka, the Hindu version of "Hell"? I bet you dont, and I feel the same way about the Christian "Hell".
@@Steve-sg3uz
"philosophies of the great atheist leaders, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot?"
Thats called a Straw man fallacy, which clearly shows that you're a troll or an uneducated fool who isnt worth wasting time on.
Your comments about "divinity", "evolutionary process" and "Hell", seem to also indicate that you're a troll or just really uneducated, so again, a waste of time.
Go back to high school and try to get a basic education, then come back and maybe you can carry on a proper adult conversation.
My personal favorite response to clams being found on the top of mount Everest is "Where are the Brachiosaurs?"
You guys don't get it. Those evil babies were wearing mixed fabrics and eating shellfish, so they had to be destroyed.
Why do you think that babies perished in the Genesis Flood ?
@@jwsanders1214 Little babies aren’t really known for their swimming ability
@@aAtom596 Yes the name Moses means " A child saved from drowning " in Egyptian . All the baby boys were thrown in the river
@@jwsanders1214 Why would they not have?
@@dma8657 You are fixing to see something worse than the Genesis Flood , but God has promised to remove all the innocents before he pours out his wrath , I believe he did the same thing before the flood
They'll hold on to their belief so tightly they'll throw away reason, dismiss anything that opposes them but accept anything that backs them up, even if that thing is proven wrong by everyone else!
Next week Rob explains the general theory of relativity to Albert Einstein's reanimated corpse.
My comeback on shells found on top of mount Everest is simple.... if it were to rain and increase the water levels to cover mountains what make you think the shells left the sea bed and floated 5 miles high in the water then got trapped when the water receded. Go check the sea bed when its raining and see if the shell start floating
Thank you for the video
9:45 Rob comes out as a sick sociopath that's OK with the slaughter of children.
Rob's response trying to connect his brain with his morals .... "...what was evil, what, what,...there were pregnant animals too... you're, you're, you're..." and then his morals died literally on a cross.
I don't know what happened to Rob. I got a good public education in Canada. I gave up religion after my first year of high school.
These stories smack of the mentality of those times
The solution to a timeless, omnipotent god in those days is not to fix the problem but to destroy, destroy, destroy!
The very telling statement proving the caller wants to remain ignorant was "that's what it looked like to me."
.....if god knows the future, how could he possible regret doing something?
Just tells you how evil people are , we create life by having careless sex and then destroy the innocent children
Shhhhhhhh! He'll hear you....
Just an aside to all this: Forrest, you are goddamn GORGEOUS!
Why don't you guys point out that if there was a global flood all sea life and freshwater life would die because of the brackish water. Did Noah have fish tanks?
Fresh water and salt water don't immediately mix . the water from the fountains of the deep had minerals
Because there wouldn't be brackish water?
I think you think of the world at that time as it appears today. The whole of continents sunk due to water coming from beneath. The amount of fresh water from the deep, plus the water from the heavens, would leave the earth's small oceans filled with fresh water. We did not have large oceans until after the flood.
The trees passing through multiple layers thing is real. Polystrate fossils. It has only ever been seen with trees though, and trees are arguably unique in that they can remain standing for potentially centuries after they die, which gives plenty of time for seasonal deposition to occur around them and build up in the right circumstances.
caller clearly said trees going through MILLIONS of strata.
Big fucken trees!
"Dr." Carl Baugh at the "Creation Evidences Museum" out of Glen Rose Texas. Has similar qualifications to Hovind.
I was always under the impression that evidence was a word that also denotes a plural. Why would it need an "s"?
basic physics says if you put more pressure on an animal, it will be compressed, not bigger
Well magic says otherwise, so there. 🤣
Steve is arguing that abortion is murder.
Murder: "The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another."
Since abortion is legal it is by definition, not murder. Time to drop that argument.
Speaking as someone who is pro-choice, I would say that the semantics of it doesn't matter. Their point is that it SHOULD be murder because it is just as malicious as murder with the only difference being that it is lawful.
Which means that it will be classified as murder once it becomes illegal. Word games are always just word games, it never works as an argument. Same if you tried to say that a fetus isn't an human. I'm pro choice, but for me someone trying to use word games to defend their position is a red flag showing they don't have any other arguments. Word games will never convince anyone, at best they will replace "murder" by "sacrificing an human life" for the rest of the argument
@@Steve-sg3uz Neither of those are considered lawful now.
@@Steve-sg3uz Only if you consider not giving an organ to someone who needs it murder.
@@Steve-sg3uz The babies were killed after being born. Not the same thing.
It went from, they found A clam to it was a bunch of clams 😂😂 great way to push that goal post further and further away.
Christians: “God is perfect.”
God in the first book of the Bible: “I fucked up.”
"Hi - I'm really ignorant but I've managed to remember a couple of really silly facts on a complex subject and therefore, I'm an expert."
" Man's mind is his basic means of survival, his only means of getting knowledge. "
-Ayn Rand-
How did Noah keep the animal predators from eating the prey on the ark? Where were the bugs and mosquitoes hanging out? Noah was righteous from God’s eyes, but what about his children? Were they perfect souls too? What did the family eat if only one of each animal was on board and they couldn’t grow crops? No refrigeration back then, so how did they keep the food fresh?
@@susankievman642 that's exactly why it's nothing more than a fairy tale
@@jodytrees Exactly. Such a nonsense story. God was also disappointed with Adam and Eve. Why did he not eliminate them in the beginning and start over again with more obedient humans?
@@susankievman642 is what gets me about this story is humanity is still really evil. Crimes happen every day. So the flood really didn't solve that. I don't see why more people can't see this
@susankievman642 that is such a great point in all my years I have never thought about that
@@susankievman642It's amazing just how many problems there are with the bible. Ever since I deconverted, I'd been asking these types of questions, which are much less obvious than other things like fate and free will, the problem of suffering, the problem with Eden, heck even heaven is a problem.
There were dinosaurs because Adam and Eve told Yahweh that the walk to church was too far and they wanted something to ride. He sent them a T Rex, which was very thoughtful because they were able to park anywhere they wanted without being hassled.
Dingleberry ALREADY got his comment taken down? Seems like the mods aren't playing games anymore.
He's got one under his Edith persona about 7 hours ago, or was there another one?
@@Beacon80 That got taken down, I think.
@@ApatheticFish3667No. It's still there. It's under his Edith account. Sort by newest and you should see it. Unless Jimdith blocked you.
Amazes me how easy you can prove to some people something they already want to believe.
"This is a lot of clams."
That’s the new “Ruin the Tour” phrase.
Forrest's intelligence is very inspirational
First thing that Forrest should have said after the caller stated his "evidence" being contrary to evolution is that nothing that the caller said had anything to do with evolution. Sometimes theists call everything scientific as being evolution.
Anything they don’t understand or agree with gets thrown in with atheism for some weird reason.
@@tonyclements1147 It's easy to target a loose group with no formal institution. When was the last time you visited a church of Atheism?
Holy shit this guy is beyond help and any common sense…wow…
13:32 that actually is a leading factor to why insect sizes blew up, I don’t remember what happened, maybe algae? But something had taken over and created a shit ton of oxygen as a by product and it allowed the insects to grow in size
So even a child, who can read is able to fact check the claims of the creationinsts and they have the audacity to lie in the light of solid facts. How demented one have to be to willingly put on the hat of a liar? Seriously, what kind of mental state required to live like that?
Absolutely. Impossible to understand for us.
@@PauloBarreto15041964 "Thank God" I can not understand them. LOL
Clams can even be steamed and not open. At which point, they are better not eaten.
So many have fallen so far down the rabbit hole. And religion is the biggest cause.
,he was so confident he was right he never questioned it, even when faced with a biologyst who knows more about biology than he does.
Yeah… giant insects and Dino’s were 70 million years apart. Didn’t happen!
This guy is so far down the rabbit hole, he must not sleep at night, always worried about hell. What did he do that was so bad, he might go to hell?
He's just indoctrinated, and lacks any logical thought.
Why have none of the pyramids had water damage? Knowing it took decades and 100 of thousands of people to build just one. and only 8 people on the ark.
No, Rob
Just...no
"This is a lotta clams. We're not talking just 1 or 2"
The point these people miss is it wouldn't matter if evolution was disproved. It still doesn't mean a god did it. That's a false dichotomy. There could be a third explanation, a fourth, and so on.
If a god was able to create everything and realized that his creation was flawed he should be tough enough to admit it was his fault he didn't have to kill all his creation another crazy story from the Bible
I find it fascinating that otherwise intelligent people so easily cast aside facts, logic, reason, and basic common sense when it comes to the supernatural......
The clams swam to the top of Mount Everest during the flood because salt water floats in fresh water! My pastor told me this! 😂😂😂
I've yet to meet a layman who disputes Evolution because he's impartial and weighed the evidence. To a man, everyone I've encountered who does so, does because he's wedded to a literal interpretation of a Bronze Age Creation myth that he's decided is revealed truth.
"Creationists posit supernatural assertions regardless of evidence, based instead on assumed conclusions, subjective impressions, perceived commitment to community, arbitrary desires, emotional dependency, and faith." (Aron Ra)
An easier question you should have asked:
Hosts: "Did God regret making the people, so he drowned them to start over?"
Caller: Yes
Hosts: "So you're alleging that God is either not all-knowing, that he couldn't see far enough into the future to predict that he would need to start over, or you're alleging that he's not all-powerful, because he wasn't able to create better conditions (since he sets the conditions and the rules) for the world that didn't require a flood from the get-go?
Caller: 🤡
And apologists will say it's because of free will. If you point out gratuitous evil, then it's gonna be evil or satan at play. Because it's always reassuring to invent an imagery enemy than to admit that their god is fundamentally wrong, before pivoting to saying atheists have no objective moral standards to say god is evil.
@@brandonng2883I would point out that there is no free will, because God has a plan for everyone, and he is directly intervening in human affairs, which destroys any free will. You can't have free will and fate at the same time.
@@infinitedeath1384 hmm, I've used that argument too that predestination and free will simply can't coexist as it defeats the omniscience of god. However, I've read how they reply and it's not good.
They'll say free will exists and that human decides their own fate and that's why evil exists because people stray from teaching of god. If free will doesn't exist, it would mean evil people are inherently evil and that would includes babies. That means, in an atheistic worldview, it is okay to delete evil babies/teens/adults.
As a Canadian, knowing that our educational system is one of the best in the world, Bob's ignorance is a embarrassment.
So the clams lived 8 miles up in the Himalayas before the flood then ?
Could you clarify what it is you're trying to say?
@@tonydarcy1606 I don’t believe in the bible but what he’s saying is that the flood waters carried the clams to the mountains. If you don’t grasp what he’s saying then you are stupider than he is.
I was wondering that too. I don't believe in the flood, I'm legit asking how'd they get up there? I'm sure there's a scientific explanation.
@@donnakeferlis1649 they absolutely answered that in the video
@@donnakeferlis1649 Tectonic plate movement. Previously ocean floor gets pushed up.