Really grade 8 bolts? I could see possibly grade 5, but they’re supposed to be shear bolts so they break under stress. Every time I’ve done this I’ve messed something else up worse. I would not recommend using grade 8 bolts!
My impeller shear pin is off, but my impeller doesn’t move free from the shaft like yours does on 0:50. The whole thing acts like impeller pin is in place, but it isn’t. What could that indicate?
Theres single stage and 2 stage blowers make sure you know what the difference is. Also it could be because its been rusted or maybe a piece of the bolt is still in there. I just had my pins break today and quickly figured out what it was. Then went to UA-cam to confirm it and I was right. Just use common sense and look things over extremely well. You can fix anything at home most times if you put some effort into it.
If one of these bolts broke could it ever end up behind that wall as a bolt was found when I upended the snowblower and took that back plate off sitting right there below a belt ?
You can stick your hand in when not running, pull the start pin/key out, turn off gas and if you need another layer of safety pull the spark plug wire, as you can tell it's not running, in the book it tells you what one can do or not & how. I have a Toro snowblower, I've worked on it for simple things like this.
His title is wrong, those are not shear bolts back their. Impellers do not use shear bolts, only the augers do, they are not indended to break back their. The majority of blowers use roll pins (coil rolls) for the impeller, their not designed to break. Some snowblowers use keyed shafts and lock nuts, others bolts, but the impeller is not designed to break free on a snowblower.
His Toro is the same model as mine. It uses shear bolts as per parts manual they look like brass bolts. I just has to replace both of them as both were broken. Part number 321-44. Using a grade 8 bolt is way to strong and will damage that gear box next time this happens. My toro does not have roll pins.i was lucky both bolts Had fallen out.
Apparently the answer to my question is can you either take the pins and sharpen one edge with a grinder. Or you squeeze it smaller with a pliers. That will allow it to get in and push the remains of the old out as you hammer it. A small screwdriver, or a nail that will fit inside the roll pin can be used to hold the hole on the impeller lined up with the hole on the shaft.
Wait, what? My HS928 seems to only have ONE hole for a bolt in the area shown in the video. I assume this varies by unit? Actually, I have one on each end of the shaft, not 2 close together like shown.
GRADE 8 BOLTS !!!..Next time you hit somethig you could ripe the whole shaft apart?,,That's why they're called SHEAR PINS,,,Also you were using a Nye-Loc nut. Not a lock washer
Its not, the impeller is not designed to shear on a snowblower, only the augers. The majority of blowers use roll pins (coil rolls), some use a keyed shaft and lock nuts, a few bolts, but the impeller is not supposed to be breaking away. Title is wrong. He's using the right bolts, roll pins would be even better, take all the slop out.
Please don't do as this guy is doing! You NEVER replace sheer pins with bolts! If you do and the need come to play that ice jams the auger or impeller those bolts will NOT break and it will destroy the auger shafts and the impeller! All ways use sheer bolts not anything else!
Thank you...this was quick, clear and so very helpful... You saved me great aggravation... blessings upon you.
Same here!!!
Excellent - Just what we needed in a pinch on Xmas Eve day in the middle of a big snowstorm!
Thanks. Was what I needed to find on here.
Me too 😅
Thx. This is just what I was looking for.
Really grade 8 bolts? I could see possibly grade 5, but they’re supposed to be shear bolts so they break under stress. Every time I’ve done this I’ve messed something else up worse. I would not recommend using grade 8 bolts!
Higher grade steel sheers wile lower grade bends
My impeller shear pin is off, but my impeller doesn’t move free from the shaft like yours does on 0:50. The whole thing acts like impeller pin is in place, but it isn’t. What could that indicate?
Theres single stage and 2 stage blowers make sure you know what the difference is. Also it could be because its been rusted or maybe a piece of the bolt is still in there. I just had my pins break today and quickly figured out what it was. Then went to UA-cam to confirm it and I was right. Just use common sense and look things over extremely well. You can fix anything at home most times if you put some effort into it.
If one of these bolts broke could it ever end up behind that wall as a bolt was found when I upended the snowblower and took that back plate off sitting right there below a belt ?
So my issue is getting my old pins out that part is not showing at all in this video
For better balance the bolt ends should have been staggered 180 degrees apart
Excellent video. Thanks very much.
Thank you so much! this helped alot.
How to do this safetly if you aren't supposed to stick your hand in a snowblower?????
You can stick your hand in when not running, pull the start pin/key out, turn off gas and if you need another layer of safety pull the spark plug wire, as you can tell it's not running, in the book it tells you what one can do or not & how.
I have a Toro snowblower, I've worked on it for simple things like this.
DId you measure the distance in inches between the auger collar and back end of gear box? I would like to not have to search for the hole. thanks,
I measured measured a similar model as mine as about 4 3/4" distance on showroom floor. that was about what mine was, FYI.
It appears after tightening that your impeller moves freely; mine no longer moves at all - any suggestions?
What if the bolts don't want to go in
Fine if you're in a pinch, but please don't use regular bolts, folks. Shear pins/bolts are cheap and plentiful.
His title is wrong, those are not shear bolts back their.
Impellers do not use shear bolts, only the augers do, they are not indended to break back their. The majority of blowers use roll pins (coil rolls) for the impeller, their not designed to break. Some snowblowers use keyed shafts and lock nuts, others bolts, but the impeller is not designed to break free on a snowblower.
Especially grade 8 bolts, you will do some real damage
He left out the most important step. Like how you get the old broken pins out.
His Toro is the same model as mine. It uses shear bolts as per parts manual they look like brass bolts. I just has to replace both of them as both were broken. Part number 321-44. Using a grade 8 bolt is way to strong and will damage that gear box next time this happens. My toro does not have roll pins.i was lucky both bolts
Had fallen out.
Apparently the answer to my question is can you either take the pins and sharpen one edge with a grinder. Or you squeeze it smaller with a pliers. That will allow it to get in and push the remains of the old out as you hammer it.
A small screwdriver, or a nail that will fit inside the roll pin can be used to hold the hole on the impeller lined up with the hole on the shaft.
Have you ever gotten one of these to go in, but not the second?
No, I would make sure none of the old one broke off.
What if the shear pin is busted but still in the shaft?
Get a nail, or something smaller than the diameter of the shear pin and spin auger until it’s lined up and use nail to push it out.
What he said 👆
You're actually using a nylon locknut, not a washer.
Wait, what? My HS928 seems to only have ONE hole for a bolt in the area shown in the video. I assume this varies by unit? Actually, I have one on each end of the shaft, not 2 close together like shown.
Different machine, different design.
Be aware the can impeller can slide in and out with some force if needed. Mine didn't at first and needed some force then I could align the holes.
Whats the oem bolt that go there
I bought mine from the dealer. The dealer said they were 8 grade.
@@Maxsimic do u have the parts number ?
Part number 321-44
Go to toro online ..look up your model number and down load parts manual and look up the part number. That's what I did
@@rookieTL oh! I thought it was a honda
GRADE 8 BOLTS !!!..Next time you hit somethig you could ripe the whole shaft apart?,,That's why they're called SHEAR PINS,,,Also you were using a Nye-Loc nut. Not a lock washer
Awesome 👌
Thanks man
sure doesn't look like a shear pin/bolt that would break as designed...
Bought them from the dealer.
Its not, the impeller is not designed to shear on a snowblower, only the augers. The majority of blowers use roll pins (coil rolls), some use a keyed shaft and lock nuts, a few bolts, but the impeller is not supposed to be breaking away. Title is wrong. He's using the right bolts, roll pins would be even better, take all the slop out.
@@Maxsimic what size bolts are they?
@@aidangregg 8 Grade 1/4 inch by 2 inches
Bolts should not be used even in a pinch get a shovel save yourself a few hundred in other repairs..
Please don't do as this guy is doing! You NEVER replace sheer pins with bolts! If you do and the need come to play that ice jams the auger or impeller those bolts will NOT break and it will destroy the auger shafts and the impeller! All ways use sheer bolts not anything else!
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Not using shear bolts , that’s asking for trouble. Use shear bolts people
Guy, this is bad info! Get an actual shear pin that will break as designed!
this is not it
For better balance the 2 nuts should have been 180 degrees apart