Thanks for the info; we're picking up our R1S in a few days (to replace our minivan). Our rooftop solar will cover both our ev's and heating/ cooling with mini- supplies. It's great to have your own power plant!
I’m a current Tesla owner and I’m looking into getting an R1S with almost the same specs as yours. Coming from a Tesla, you kind of get used to the lack of Apple CarPlay and the absence of a texting feature. For ambitious car companies like Tesla and Rivian, which aim to create their own ecosystems, the last thing they’ll do is open up their closed operating systems. With that said, they’re unlikely to ever adopt Apple CarPlay
I’d agree with that, it’s not necessarily that I want CarPlay- but give me something. Some kind of texting capability- anything! Make sure if you do buy a Rivian, to use someone’s referral code! Mines ADAM1421923- just in case you can’t find someone else’s 😜
R1T owner. Agree if you have Carplay and now you don't, It is tough not to have it. Although Rivian never promised Carplay and they will never have it based on the fact that they want to control the software stack so they can integrate whatever they want to add from a software standpoint with faster, leaner, controllable in house infrastructure. They are continuing to roll out fantastic software upgrades that allow for a richer and more value add experience that their competitors other than Tesla, who also controls their stack. Hopefully they will be integrating a texting solution sometime within the next half a year or year. The new upcoming release with allow for tri-venting of the A/C-heat-fans. The thing I am most looking forward to in this release is the ability to see motion cam on the app. Game changer. Love my Gen1 R1T!
Isn't the lower end system worse though? Also I've heard that future software updates would make the audio better. How did you decide between being locked in to the lower quality audio which likely has hardware limitations vs a system which probably has decent hardware that can be turned with software in the future? I agree from my one-time experience, the premium sound didn't sound anything like how a premium system should sound.
Must be an R1S thing. The premium R1T audio system is hands down the best I've ever heard. Granted, I bought the truck with the latest update already installed so I haven't heard what others have complained about for so long.
It was primarily because after buying 2 other EVs, I just don’t feel like range is something of value to my family. Especially with the base battery being an LFP, the useable percentage is 100%, no worrying about only having access to 60-80% of the battery. As soon as I heard the standard battery was an LFP I was wrestling over buying a gen1 or waiting for a gen2, but the gen2 came out so fast I just decided to go with the standard. Useable daily range is better, it should be more durable and I only charge a couple of times a week even with the smaller battery.
The suspension auto mode thing is an EPA requirement at the moment. Because it was tested with auto suspension, Rivian is forced to have that as the "key up" or default setting. I don't think there's anything that says the user cannot select a setting to disable this, so if Rivian can, I'm sure they will introduce that option. Also, Rivian is working on texting integration.
What kind of true range do you get? I’m test driving this week and am very interested in leasing one but I do drive about 115 miles one way pretty frequently but can charge in between the return trip.
Depends on drive, but the worst I ever got was around 175 or so in some extreme heat in freeway driving. Typically I’d say I get very close to full range because I do mostly round town driving and it loves that consumption wise. If I had to put a number on a consistent guaranteed range that I can be sure of, it’d be 230. Obviously you can get the bigger battery pack, but I personally think LFP is the way to go.
What is the expected range? My Tesla said 348 miles but actually it's 260 to 275 miles. 3 miles per Kw on a 100kw battery which now holds only 96kw after 2 years and 30k miles
@ Good question and the answers will vary widely depending on what kind of driving you’re doing. I went on a trip yesterday up over the mountains to the desert, drove around and came back, about 5-6 hrs driving and averaged 2.3 miles/kwh (actually calculated, not just the computer read out). This is a standard pack so that would work out to 211 miles if I actually used 100%. I personally get 200-230 miles on most trips I do, which is great as far as I’m concerned. It’s supposed to be 259 miles according to EPA, but I’ve never gotten anything like what the EPA thinks I should with any car. The standard pack is the LFP so I charge it to 100% as recommended. If you want comparable range to what your teslas getting, definitely go for a bigger pack. I don’t do long drives all that often, so I’m fine with the smaller pack and would rather have LFP chemistry.
The issue with the vents is a weird self own. It shouldn't be a problem. Just keep it on all the time like cars have been doing for decades. Pretty much every issue I have with Rivian is the stuff they copy from Tesla. Tesla has made everyone in the industry over-think and over-complicate basic car UX. The AC is an amazing stat. That should shut up the EV haters lol
Thank you for this review. Have you tried using "Hey Siri, text my wife...." or "Hey Siri play...."? If the phone is paired and connected to the car's Bluetooth, there is good chance it works. Please confirm, thank you!
I have tried that and if I’m using my watch it’s ok, or if I have my AirPods in it’s the best solution I’ve found so far. Just want Rivian to come up with something, no matter how basic, to tell me who’s texting me and let me respond if needed.
Yes and I appreciate that, but when a used Nissan Leaf has a capability- there’s no excuse for a brand new premium brand vehicle not to have that capability as well. It doesn’t have to be CarPlay, but there’s just no excuse for not having a text dictation system of some kind. In house or not, I don’t care it just needs to be resolved.
Thanks for sharing. My wife and I have had our Model Y Performance for about a year and a half and though we like it we really want an R1S or R1T. There hasn't been a lot of content or impressions of the dual standard configuration though, which is a shame since it seems like a pretty killer combo. I think people worry far too much about range. In road tripping pure range honestly doesn't matter much unless you have to make a big jump that doesn't have chargers in between which with Tesla charger access is pretty unlikely. The charging curve is very poor for most EVs once you go past 50% (some even less than that) that if you want to optimize a road trip for less time spent charging it often means more charging stops in that prime zone of your specific car's charging curve. In which case anything 200+ miles will likely be perfectly fine, especially if it has access to the Tesla chargers. For the price you can get in the dual standard it's really compelling and honestly if it was around when we were purchasing (and Rivian had Tesla charger access at that point) would easily would've have gone with a Rivian. Also based on the early tests by Out of Spec it really seems like the dual motor setup (now being custom built Rivian motors) are more efficient especially with the auto disconnect for the rear motor (that's manual in the quad via Conserve mode) then with the standard LFP pack they seem to be getting better charging curves as well. Those charging curves could really improve road tripping. It really might be the best Rivian configuration for most people despite being the cheapest.
I would totally agree. I have a really hard time explaining to non EV drivers that range is a borderline scam. It’s so hyper focused on, but it’s really not the most important or even one of the top 3 most important factors for me buying an EV… we have loved our dual standard so far. Good luck in your journeys- hopefully you’ll be behind the wheel of an R1 soon! Make sure you use someone’s referral code, even if it’s not mine, definitely find someone’s and take advantage of the free gear or charging!
Android Auto would be slick, or some texting/messaging capability for sure. Also wish Audible/Spotify apps could download content for offline use. Wouldn't matter if it had the phone compatability but given Amazon it's unlikely.
Good review - but had the information of a 15 minute video especially with no images of the actual features described. Some basic gaps about range need to be included. I know of no EV buyer that would purchase a vehicle without that clear knowledge and in comparison with other similar vehicles.
Agreed, this video is an improvement I hope: SUPER COMPILATION! 5 months and 5k miles of life with a Rivian! My ownership- unpaid, honest review. ua-cam.com/video/BzYmN1syfTs/v-deo.html
@@True_Dad Oh dang 1.6, you must drive fast... That vehicle is supposed to be 2.6 and has been proved at highway speeds of 70mph. Surprised it's so low for you.
@@darinbrazil5496 it’s done a lot of freeway and mountain driving at 75mph in standard height, I never use auto or low. Plus I’ve towed with it and always have it loaded up with family. On top of that it spends a lot of time with pet mode on for my doggo or to stay cool on the hot days so that when I get back to the car in the parking lot it’s not too hot. Basically whatever any car is supposed to get for it’s minimum mpg or energy consumption, my typical uses will always crush it below that, unfortunately.
I've put about 1,000 miles on our 2025 Dual Max with the 20" AS tires and I'm seeing between 2.1 and 2.5mi/kWh between charges. Definitely worse at 75+ on the highway.
The premium is able to play Dolby atmos and Spatial Audio from Apple Music. The standard is a 12 speaker 600 watt system, the premium is an 18 speaker 960 watt system.
@@True_Dad Sorry. I meant what is the real world experience difference in the premium audio? I can't find any reviews on it and my spec currently has it applied. I've read the same specs you posted on their website but it's very difficult to find anyone to comment on the audible difference yet. Highs, lows, mids, etc? Did they find it worth the extra premium, etc. Were you able to test out the Premium audio prior to purchasing your standard Rivian Audio?
@@thedcgod Ah gotcha- I have only experienced the Meridian system for Gen 1 vehicles and the Standard audio system from Gen 2s. In my honest opinion I think the standard stacks up to the Meridian’s performance, I really do. As far as how that stacks up to the new Rivian upgraded system, I have no direct experience. I would assume it’s just better all around. The standard system sounds relatively well balanced but a little low biased and missing some of the mids and highs. As far as stock car audio systems go it sounds great to me, I’m not an audiophile but I do enjoy blasting music from time to time when there’s no kids in the car. It’s better than the Jeep Wagoneers Alpine system by a long way. The Wagoneer sounds sort of Hollow, I don’t know if that’s high mids lows or a bad setting. Rivian’s standard is much better than stock Toyota Highlander systems for the current models and on par with the Mustang Mach Es B+O system or better, depending on your preferences. The B+O system isn’t as loud and is a more high biased system with really great clarity but misses some lows. My daughter’s Nissan Leaf has the Bose system with a sub and I’d say the stock Rivian system has more base than that, despite not having a sub. The Bose system is good, but the Rivian’s is my favorite of all the above mentioned systems. That’s about all my personal experiences with recent manufacturers systems, but hope that helps! All that said, I’m a partially hearing impaired combat vet, so take it all with a pinch of salt😂
Just got my 2025 R1S the other day. I'm no audiophile but the standard audio is pretty terrible. It sounds muffled and is painful to listen to for longer periods. No offense but it is pretty idiotic to say it is a safety risk to not be able to text via speech when you openly admit to being a distracted driver by texts. This is the problem with drivers these days, all easily distracted by phones. Doesn't matter if you have to look at a phone or not, the phone is absolutely taking attention away from the road.
that is not the definition of "efficiency", efficiency is the amount of miles you can drive with a fixed amount of energy. if you can drive 350 miles with 75 kw of energy, likes a model Y, then your vehicle is efficient. But if you must use at least 100kw of energy to drive 350 then your vehicle is NOT efficient compared wiith other EV's. you are talking about convenience and not using mineral fuels to power your vehicles. A gas car could be more effficient than your rivian if it could drive 600 miles when spending only 5 gallons of gas. So yeah, completely wrong word and expression to use.
Incorrect. Comparing a model Y to a Rivian isn’t reasonable. Comparing a Rivian to anything in its class is reasonable, and yes, it is comparatively efficient. An R1S is exponentially more efficient than a Land Cruiser or Tahoe. An R1S and model Y do different things. I did not say that “the R1S is the most efficient vehicle.” I said it’s extremely efficient. It is, regardless of there are more efficient vehicles.
@True_Dad @True_Dad dude you need to rewatch your own video. In the video, starting at 23:28, You claimed that because you can charge your 3 evs at home using solar panels and so your rivian is super efficient. That's what I was referring to, when I say that is not called efficiency, that is called convenience. The model y example was just to shown you how the word ***efficiency*** is supposed to be used. Not to claim that a model y is more or less efficient than an r1s. You missed the point completely. Your r1s is NOT efficient just because you can charge it from your solar production. That's just convenience and cost savings.
@@johnmtb5888I literally at no point said “efficiency is using solar to charge or offset my energy use.” I said my favorite thing was its efficiency. As a result of that efficiency, its energy consumption is covered by my existing solar panels. Not sure why you’re so hyperfocused on the semantics of that one specific word. I make it pretty clear that it’s amazing that the vehicle is so efficient that its use is covered by my panels, that was a surprise to me. I expected to be using a lot more energy. It is efficient, therefore I don’t use more energy than my panels create.
@@True_Dad OP is correct. No hate, but you're using the term "efficient" incorrectly. No hate. I'm a Rivian fan boy. If my ICE car gets free gasoline, doesn't make it efficient. Just makes the gas free.
@@jinushaunI agree, that what you guys are saying about the definition of efficiency is true. I didn’t say it’s efficient because of the solar panels. My point is that because it is efficient, my panels cover its use. I’m sorry I didn’t make that clear.
lol the worst thing about the Rivian is the unsafe condition yuo ingage in lol. You want safe? stop looking at your phone when your driving. By the way you can turn on feature in settings that will let others know you are driving based on you movement speed.
I have a Tesla and want a Rivian. I really dislike the seat comfort in Teslas (at least my Model Y Performance). During the test drive it seemed fine but then I really started to realize some serious comfort issues (not helped by the Model Y Performance's brutal ride, but the seats alone aren't great IMHO, even in the test rides the R1S seats felt so much better).
Thanks for the info; we're picking up our R1S in a few days (to replace our minivan). Our rooftop solar will cover both our ev's and heating/ cooling with mini- supplies. It's great to have your own power plant!
Super cool, congratulations and enjoy it! They’re amazing machines!
I’m a current Tesla owner and I’m looking into getting an R1S with almost the same specs as yours. Coming from a Tesla, you kind of get used to the lack of Apple CarPlay and the absence of a texting feature. For ambitious car companies like Tesla and Rivian, which aim to create their own ecosystems, the last thing they’ll do is open up their closed operating systems. With that said, they’re unlikely to ever adopt Apple CarPlay
I’d agree with that, it’s not necessarily that I want CarPlay- but give me something. Some kind of texting capability- anything! Make sure if you do buy a Rivian, to use someone’s referral code! Mines ADAM1421923- just in case you can’t find someone else’s 😜
Those bumps on 52 are because the highway goes over an old land fill that keeps moving. Good video.
Yep, constantly under reconstruction, wild!
R1T owner. Agree if you have Carplay and now you don't, It is tough not to have it. Although Rivian never promised Carplay and they will never have it based on the fact that they want to control the software stack so they can integrate whatever they want to add from a software standpoint with faster, leaner, controllable in house infrastructure. They are continuing to roll out fantastic software upgrades that allow for a richer and more value add experience that their competitors other than Tesla, who also controls their stack. Hopefully they will be integrating a texting solution sometime within the next half a year or year. The new upcoming release with allow for tri-venting of the A/C-heat-fans. The thing I am most looking forward to in this release is the ability to see motion cam on the app. Game changer. Love my Gen1 R1T!
To be honest as a R1S owner the premium audio system isn’t great so I wouldn’t upgrade.
Isn't the lower end system worse though? Also I've heard that future software updates would make the audio better. How did you decide between being locked in to the lower quality audio which likely has hardware limitations vs a system which probably has decent hardware that can be turned with software in the future? I agree from my one-time experience, the premium sound didn't sound anything like how a premium system should sound.
Must be an R1S thing. The premium R1T audio system is hands down the best I've ever heard. Granted, I bought the truck with the latest update already installed so I haven't heard what others have complained about for so long.
How did you base your decision on going with standard battery over large/max? Was it solely on cost?
It was primarily because after buying 2 other EVs, I just don’t feel like range is something of value to my family. Especially with the base battery being an LFP, the useable percentage is 100%, no worrying about only having access to 60-80% of the battery. As soon as I heard the standard battery was an LFP I was wrestling over buying a gen1 or waiting for a gen2, but the gen2 came out so fast I just decided to go with the standard. Useable daily range is better, it should be more durable and I only charge a couple of times a week even with the smaller battery.
The suspension auto mode thing is an EPA requirement at the moment. Because it was tested with auto suspension, Rivian is forced to have that as the "key up" or default setting. I don't think there's anything that says the user cannot select a setting to disable this, so if Rivian can, I'm sure they will introduce that option. Also, Rivian is working on texting integration.
Both good to know- thanks!
What kind of true range do you get? I’m test driving this week and am very interested in leasing one but I do drive about 115 miles one way pretty frequently but can charge in between the return trip.
Depends on drive, but the worst I ever got was around 175 or so in some extreme heat in freeway driving. Typically I’d say I get very close to full range because I do mostly round town driving and it loves that consumption wise. If I had to put a number on a consistent guaranteed range that I can be sure of, it’d be 230. Obviously you can get the bigger battery pack, but I personally think LFP is the way to go.
What is the expected range? My Tesla said 348 miles but actually it's 260 to 275 miles.
3 miles per Kw on a 100kw battery which now holds only 96kw after 2 years and 30k miles
@ Good question and the answers will vary widely depending on what kind of driving you’re doing. I went on a trip yesterday up over the mountains to the desert, drove around and came back, about 5-6 hrs driving and averaged 2.3 miles/kwh (actually calculated, not just the computer read out). This is a standard pack so that would work out to 211 miles if I actually used 100%. I personally get 200-230 miles on most trips I do, which is great as far as I’m concerned. It’s supposed to be 259 miles according to EPA, but I’ve never gotten anything like what the EPA thinks I should with any car. The standard pack is the LFP so I charge it to 100% as recommended. If you want comparable range to what your teslas getting, definitely go for a bigger pack. I don’t do long drives all that often, so I’m fine with the smaller pack and would rather have LFP chemistry.
The issue with the vents is a weird self own. It shouldn't be a problem. Just keep it on all the time like cars have been doing for decades. Pretty much every issue I have with Rivian is the stuff they copy from Tesla. Tesla has made everyone in the industry over-think and over-complicate basic car UX.
The AC is an amazing stat. That should shut up the EV haters lol
Thank you for this review. Have you tried using "Hey Siri, text my wife...." or "Hey Siri play...."? If the phone is paired and connected to the car's Bluetooth, there is good chance it works. Please confirm, thank you!
I have tried that and if I’m using my watch it’s ok, or if I have my AirPods in it’s the best solution I’ve found so far. Just want Rivian to come up with something, no matter how basic, to tell me who’s texting me and let me respond if needed.
There is a feature on your iPhone that detects when you are driving and will auto-respond back that you are driving after receiving a text message.
Yes and I appreciate that, but when a used Nissan Leaf has a capability- there’s no excuse for a brand new premium brand vehicle not to have that capability as well. It doesn’t have to be CarPlay, but there’s just no excuse for not having a text dictation system of some kind. In house or not, I don’t care it just needs to be resolved.
Thanks for sharing. My wife and I have had our Model Y Performance for about a year and a half and though we like it we really want an R1S or R1T. There hasn't been a lot of content or impressions of the dual standard configuration though, which is a shame since it seems like a pretty killer combo. I think people worry far too much about range. In road tripping pure range honestly doesn't matter much unless you have to make a big jump that doesn't have chargers in between which with Tesla charger access is pretty unlikely. The charging curve is very poor for most EVs once you go past 50% (some even less than that) that if you want to optimize a road trip for less time spent charging it often means more charging stops in that prime zone of your specific car's charging curve. In which case anything 200+ miles will likely be perfectly fine, especially if it has access to the Tesla chargers.
For the price you can get in the dual standard it's really compelling and honestly if it was around when we were purchasing (and Rivian had Tesla charger access at that point) would easily would've have gone with a Rivian.
Also based on the early tests by Out of Spec it really seems like the dual motor setup (now being custom built Rivian motors) are more efficient especially with the auto disconnect for the rear motor (that's manual in the quad via Conserve mode) then with the standard LFP pack they seem to be getting better charging curves as well. Those charging curves could really improve road tripping. It really might be the best Rivian configuration for most people despite being the cheapest.
I would totally agree. I have a really hard time explaining to non EV drivers that range is a borderline scam. It’s so hyper focused on, but it’s really not the most important or even one of the top 3 most important factors for me buying an EV… we have loved our dual standard so far. Good luck in your journeys- hopefully you’ll be behind the wheel of an R1 soon! Make sure you use someone’s referral code, even if it’s not mine, definitely find someone’s and take advantage of the free gear or charging!
"I dont she's comfortable anywhere anyway" in referring to pregnant wife's situation is a war starter comment.
Android Auto would be slick, or some texting/messaging capability for sure. Also wish Audible/Spotify apps could download content for offline use. Wouldn't matter if it had the phone compatability but given Amazon it's unlikely.
I cannot imagine nor understand the purchase of any vehicle with no CarPlay - especially at $100K?
Voice to text is coming, just FYI, but also, you can just say Hey Siri, send a text. Works fine for me when my phone is on the charger.
Sending a text isn’t my issue, it’s knowing who sent one to me without taking my eyes off the road.
@@True_Dad Ah, got it. I don't read texts while driving. To me, if its important, you will call. If not, then it can wait.
@@True_Dad I got a mount that sits right beside the steering wheel. I use it for Waze too.
Good review - but had the information of a 15 minute video especially with no images of the actual features described. Some basic gaps about range need to be included. I know of no EV buyer that would purchase a vehicle without that clear knowledge and in comparison with other similar vehicles.
Agreed, this video is an improvement I hope: SUPER COMPILATION! 5 months and 5k miles of life with a Rivian! My ownership- unpaid, honest review.
ua-cam.com/video/BzYmN1syfTs/v-deo.html
What is your lifetime miles per kilowatt hour average so far over the 3600 miles you have driven?
It’s pretty low for an EV, at 1.6 mi/kwh, so approximately 64 mpge- which is amazing for a vehicle like this
@@True_Dad Oh dang 1.6, you must drive fast... That vehicle is supposed to be 2.6 and has been proved at highway speeds of 70mph. Surprised it's so low for you.
@@darinbrazil5496 it’s done a lot of freeway and mountain driving at 75mph in standard height, I never use auto or low. Plus I’ve towed with it and always have it loaded up with family. On top of that it spends a lot of time with pet mode on for my doggo or to stay cool on the hot days so that when I get back to the car in the parking lot it’s not too hot. Basically whatever any car is supposed to get for it’s minimum mpg or energy consumption, my typical uses will always crush it below that, unfortunately.
@@True_Dad ah ya it's probably the dog mode and idle AC use driving down your efficiency. Enjoyed your review.
I've put about 1,000 miles on our 2025 Dual Max with the 20" AS tires and I'm seeing between 2.1 and 2.5mi/kWh between charges. Definitely worse at 75+ on the highway.
What is the difference in the Premium vs Standard Rivian Audio?
The premium is able to play Dolby atmos and Spatial Audio from Apple Music. The standard is a 12 speaker 600 watt system, the premium is an 18 speaker 960 watt system.
@@True_Dad Sorry. I meant what is the real world experience difference in the premium audio? I can't find any reviews on it and my spec currently has it applied. I've read the same specs you posted on their website but it's very difficult to find anyone to comment on the audible difference yet. Highs, lows, mids, etc? Did they find it worth the extra premium, etc. Were you able to test out the Premium audio prior to purchasing your standard Rivian Audio?
@@thedcgod Ah gotcha- I have only experienced the Meridian system for Gen 1 vehicles and the Standard audio system from Gen 2s. In my honest opinion I think the standard stacks up to the Meridian’s performance, I really do. As far as how that stacks up to the new Rivian upgraded system, I have no direct experience. I would assume it’s just better all around. The standard system sounds relatively well balanced but a little low biased and missing some of the mids and highs. As far as stock car audio systems go it sounds great to me, I’m not an audiophile but I do enjoy blasting music from time to time when there’s no kids in the car. It’s better than the Jeep Wagoneers Alpine system by a long way. The Wagoneer sounds sort of Hollow, I don’t know if that’s high mids lows or a bad setting. Rivian’s standard is much better than stock Toyota Highlander systems for the current models and on par with the Mustang Mach Es B+O system or better, depending on your preferences. The B+O system isn’t as loud and is a more high biased system with really great clarity but misses some lows. My daughter’s Nissan Leaf has the Bose system with a sub and I’d say the stock Rivian system has more base than that, despite not having a sub. The Bose system is good, but the Rivian’s is my favorite of all the above mentioned systems. That’s about all my personal experiences with recent manufacturers systems, but hope that helps! All that said, I’m a partially hearing impaired combat vet, so take it all with a pinch of salt😂
@@True_Dad This is great info, thank you!
I agree texting would be nice but not apple car play. I have an android.
Agreed, my wife uses android auto in her Mach E. Anything though, I just want any sort of texting capability!
It would be nice to 'see' what you're talking about, instead looking at you the whole time.
I’m definitely trying to do that more rather than keeping my ugly mug on screen so much too!😂
Did I click on a car review or a documentary about baldness?
Baldness is life. Watch the updated review- it’s got less of me in it🤓
Hey Siri, read my messages..Hey Siri replay yes...
Just got my 2025 R1S the other day. I'm no audiophile but the standard audio is pretty terrible. It sounds muffled and is painful to listen to for longer periods.
No offense but it is pretty idiotic to say it is a safety risk to not be able to text via speech when you openly admit to being a distracted driver by texts. This is the problem with drivers these days, all easily distracted by phones. Doesn't matter if you have to look at a phone or not, the phone is absolutely taking attention away from the road.
that is not the definition of "efficiency", efficiency is the amount of miles you can drive with a fixed amount of energy. if you can drive 350 miles with 75 kw of energy, likes a model Y, then your vehicle is efficient. But if you must use at least 100kw of energy to drive 350 then your vehicle is NOT efficient compared wiith other EV's.
you are talking about convenience and not using mineral fuels to power your vehicles. A gas car could be more effficient than your rivian if it could drive 600 miles when spending only 5 gallons of gas. So yeah, completely wrong word and expression to use.
Incorrect. Comparing a model Y to a Rivian isn’t reasonable. Comparing a Rivian to anything in its class is reasonable, and yes, it is comparatively efficient. An R1S is exponentially more efficient than a Land Cruiser or Tahoe. An R1S and model Y do different things. I did not say that “the R1S is the most efficient vehicle.” I said it’s extremely efficient. It is, regardless of there are more efficient vehicles.
@True_Dad @True_Dad dude you need to rewatch your own video. In the video, starting at 23:28, You claimed that because you can charge your 3 evs at home using solar panels and so your rivian is super efficient.
That's what I was referring to, when I say that is not called efficiency, that is called convenience.
The model y example was just to shown you how the word ***efficiency*** is supposed to be used. Not to claim that a model y is more or less efficient than an r1s. You missed the point completely.
Your r1s is NOT efficient just because you can charge it from your solar production. That's just convenience and cost savings.
@@johnmtb5888I literally at no point said “efficiency is using solar to charge or offset my energy use.” I said my favorite thing was its efficiency. As a result of that efficiency, its energy consumption is covered by my existing solar panels. Not sure why you’re so hyperfocused on the semantics of that one specific word. I make it pretty clear that it’s amazing that the vehicle is so efficient that its use is covered by my panels, that was a surprise to me. I expected to be using a lot more energy. It is efficient, therefore I don’t use more energy than my panels create.
@@True_Dad OP is correct. No hate, but you're using the term "efficient" incorrectly. No hate. I'm a Rivian fan boy. If my ICE car gets free gasoline, doesn't make it efficient. Just makes the gas free.
@@jinushaunI agree, that what you guys are saying about the definition of efficiency is true. I didn’t say it’s efficient because of the solar panels. My point is that because it is efficient, my panels cover its use. I’m sorry I didn’t make that clear.
lol the worst thing about the Rivian is the unsafe condition yuo ingage in lol. You want safe? stop looking at your phone when your driving. By the way you can turn on feature in settings that will let others know you are driving based on you movement speed.
Just get a Tesla
There’s no Tesla this spacious.
I have a Tesla and want a Rivian. I really dislike the seat comfort in Teslas (at least my Model Y Performance). During the test drive it seemed fine but then I really started to realize some serious comfort issues (not helped by the Model Y Performance's brutal ride, but the seats alone aren't great IMHO, even in the test rides the R1S seats felt so much better).
@@M4ttNeti also have a MYP, I upgraded the suspension with 3rd party suspension and it made a night and day difference