1. Worlds finest Personally, I would prefer a trinity movie, but a Worlds Finest film that sets up the trinity or possibly the JL is great too 2. JSA While it’s not in my top 5 or anything, that would be an awesome project especially to see the past of heroes in this universe 3. Martian Manhunter He’s a cool character, but personally I don’t think he needs his own project. I would love to see him somewhere else in the DCU though 4. The Question YES 5. Zantanna Sure why not. She’s good I’m just not as big of a fan as everyone else seems to be 😂 6. Nightwing Personally I think he does not need a whole project dedicated to himself, but I do think he should play a big part in the Teen Titans 7. Black Canary & Green This is a duo I don’t love as much as everyone else but I do agree they need a project, whether they know eachother already or not 8. Wally West Flash Wally is my favorite flash and I beleive he deserves a project, with or without Barry 9. Animated Wonder Woman Series Personally I would prefer a live action film, but this works too 10. I don’t want old Batman 😭 Bruh a 30-45 year old Batman ain’t old also that just means he will be in his prime, which is the Batman we all love 11. Legion of Doom Yes I would love to see them as a Justice league threat it would be great and that’s all I have to say about it lol 12. I hope JL isn’t formed Completely agree, that would be waaay to far in this universe for us to start with. That’s it, hope you enjoyed reading my options whoever sees this!
That DC Swamp Thing series was FABULOUS... I was really bummed when they canceled it for what seemed like BS reasons.. hope they pick it up with a similar feel...
A Hellblazer series like an hard R rated Supernatural on max would amazing!!! Nightwing is one of the best selling books dc has right now, no way he doesn’t get a film. A budget for a Nightwing film would be in the lower end and getting a lot of real world high end acrobatics and martial arts and some good writing and Nightwing could easily be the best character in the DCU
You just dont mention "the bat family" as gunn did without having plans for nightwing, batwoman, all the robins and all the batgirls. So.. It would be insane to not give nightwing their own movie or limited tv series.
@@ShinAkakageLOL By The Way Actually It Opposite, Bcuz SPIDERMAN Is MORE Like "ROBINS/KNIGHTWING" & "CLARK/SUPES" With SPIDER'S POWERS In Terms CHARACTERS DEVELOPING LIKABLE RELATABILITY Bcuz BOTH ICONICS "DC" SUPERHEROES CHARACTERS COMES FIRST LOL
I think the ages of heroes matter alot, personally. Younger heroes. (Hawkgirl, Terrific) and older heroes (Hal, Guy) probably have different ideas of what heroism should be because of their generational differences (This is most likely the Kingdom Come influence). And Superman (maybe along with the rest of the JL) is more the “middle child” who steps in with reason, and forges ideals everyone can agree with and strive towards so that they can all work together in the future.
Tbh for the Green Arrow, he should really be getting his own origin story. Would be killer to see a cinematic Lian Yu and his return. Plus it's especially important to do it this way given people have been used to one version for a decade, and one who has been around for years that is more comic accurate would be too much of a shock to audiences in terms of how different he would be.
If they don’t do Parralax first up and they do put together a worlds finest movie, I would love to see a hard travelling heroes movie with Ollie & Hal, you could throw Barry in as well and really lean into their dynamic with each other
Since Gunn said that, one of his inspirations for the DC films universe would be the DCAU, I think most of the projects in this first chapter might lead up to a Justice League movie adapting the Cadmus Arc (from JLU), with Amanda Waller as the main villain. It's possible that Legacy will establish that most super heroes in DC Universe either work for a company or the goverment (like Guy Gardner, Hawgirl and Mr Terrific) or just retired (ex: the JSA), are dead (Barry Allen) or don't work on Earth (ex: The Green lanterns). Batman is a exception since he's a street vigilante and the goverment doesn't see him as potential threat. However Superman's arrival changes this system, wirth exposing and stopping Waller and the goverment illegall operations while also inspiring guys like Mr Terrific and Hawkgirl to be more independent. From that the films begin to show more independent heroes showing up like John Stewart (he could choose to work on Earth), Flash (Wally West) and Wonder Woman. This causes the goverment to worry of this new super heroes and so, in response, could create a special task force to oppose the heroes in case they turn against world (it could be the OMACs or the AMAZOs). However Waller decides to not wait and instead uses her control over media to frame the heroes from crimes they didn't commit and turn the public against them, so she and her task force can legally hunt the heroes down (kind like the current event in the comics, Absolute Power). This would not only allow the DCU JL film to be different from what fans expect, but also the fact that most of the heroes were established in their own movies and TV shows, would help to give more impact when Waller and her task force captures or maybe kills some of them, bc they are all character fans would get to know, rather than being random extras.
@@mareleivanovthats cap.. you clearly aren’t a nightwing fan.. you blowin smoke out ya ass.. nightwing while having similarities with Batman they’re nothing alike in terms of personality or how they go about their heroism.. dick is everything Bruce was supposed to be
On paper that seems like an interesting idea but James and Andy would have to share a COMPLETE Vision and idk if warner bros would be up for that because money
Actually, people don't really care about animations. You can see, based on how Marvel animated TV shows perform, that the general audience won't tune in for a Wonder Woman animated series. I understand that the character may be expensive, but Wonder Woman having an animated debut in the DCU is the worst thing they could do to her. I do hope that Wonder Woman animated series is like Harley Quinn and My Adventures with Superman - its own thing, maybe something introductory for younger generations.
That's just not true in the slightest.. if they make it good they make it good. X-Men 97 was amazing and people loved it. DC just needs to do that for wonder women. Animated media is not dead.
Hot Take: If they make Barry older 30-40 and Wally is a Flash, I think it would be better for Wally's Flash to be on an adult Titans with Dick as Nightwing.
I think the problem people have with a 10 years in Batman is that we have a concrete understanding of stories that take place within the first 10 years. But anything after that usually jumps to an alternate future like Batman beyond or the dark knight returns. There’s a period in between these two stages of his career that is largely unknown, which makes people scared, as they assume anything after the initial 10 years will be old man Batman
World's Finest - an antidote to what has become a cliche in which Superman and Batman battle. See WF face two big bads: Monghul and Ra's. Justice League. Let Supergirl fill Wonder Woman's shoes with the exception of a Paradise Lost that leads, perhaps, to JSA, and develop other females - Huntress, whomever. Titans. Starfire. Hawkgirl.
I think Legacy gives insight to Gunns ideas for the world. Justice League will be created in a later movie with inspiration from the Justice Society, carrying on a more honorable legacy for superheroes. Hawk Girl, Mr Terrific, and Green Lantern are both second or third iteration of a character, following in someone else's legacy. Superman himself having a huge legacy to live up to both in story and meta, being the last survivor of Krypton (for now) and possibly a fatherly death along with the real world legacy of Superman in media and pop culture
I think the reason some fans would feel bummed out about the Justice League already existing in Gunn’s DCU is because that means there are a ton of stories that have already taken place for the team that the audience will never get to see. It would only be hinted at in exposition, Easter eggs, or flashbacks.
I feel like only the Justice Society and Justice League International as its successors are the teams that are pre-existing in the DCU. Once Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman show up and change the game, the Justice League of America become a thing.
Zatanna is my 3rd favorite Superhero so I'd lose my mind if she got a solo project, but I think it's more likely that she'll only be in a Justice League Dark or Constantine project, then again if Dead Man can get a solo Animated Series then maybe so could Zatanna Wally West is my favorite Flash so I'd love to see him Green Arrow and Black Canary just like Hawk and Dove in Titans, I think Crime Fighting Couples is interesting to see and can be pretty good
It would be cool to have more single character centric projects but I know at this point, that won’t happen like we’ve seen elsewhere. I’m really excited for the projects we know about already and can’t wait to see what else will be create. I can see the Wonder Woman project being a DCU project and hope it is! Great video!!
That's an imagining of what Murphy's score might sound like by a UA-camr composer. But I have been listening to Murphy's "Flying Home" theme from the Kick-Ass soundtrack on repeat lately.. it's pretty epic.
That is a *huge* pet peeve for me. Drives me nuts. I grew up on the east coast in Pittsburgh, PA, and they have the MOST annoying version of that. Instead of saying "you guys" or even "y'all", they say "yinz guys", or just "yinz" (as in "hey yinz, how's it going?"). It sounds even dumber than it looks typed out. They also call wolves "woofs" and creeks "criks". I will never understand.
Ollie and Hal and Barry are typically around the same age and form two popular pairs in the comics, so if Hal is going to be in his 40s - 50s, I expect the same for the other two. Ollie was in his 40s for most of Post-Crisis anyway in the comics, so I always expected that for the DCU. Which means Roy would be Arsenal with Connor Hawke also acting as Green Arrow whenever we're introduced to them
I'm so glad boba brought this up . a wonder woman animated series would be 🔥 . I personally would love to see a wonder woman series set in the timm verse set in the dcau with the batman Animated series , JLU ANIMATED Series ETC ETC . I Would Also LOVE ONE SET IN THE DCU aswell .
That Arrow & Canary idea would be awesome!! I love the idea of them doing something with The Question too. I could see a standalone mini-series on Max. Wouldn't mind an easter egg that connects to something else in the DCU but for the most part, still having it be a standalone story within the universe. I honestly wasn't a Question fan until Justice League Unlimited, he was so well done on that show. Other characters i'd love to see eventually make their way into the DCU: Black Lightning, Firestorm, a more comic accurate Black Adam, Mr. Miracle & Barda, Zatanna, Huntress. And yes, I definitely want a true World's Finest movie! Superman & Batman teaming up against whoever.
In regards to green arrow I think the best way to tease to him is during the superman film there's an article being worked on about Oliver queen being found on an island and is back home safe after expected dead
i wonder if Martian Manhunter will appear in Lanterns. i don’t think it’s out of the question, speaking of, i hope we see the Question sooner than later. i think i’d prefer a stand alone detective story, but he can team up with others occasionally, like Batman to uncover a deeper mystery
Is it just me or is this universe already, so fleshed out and well thought out? It makes me so excited. The universe hasn’t even started yet and look how far ahead we already are with our thoughts of where it can go (and it doesn’t even seem far fetched)
I think my ideal version of a flash project would be focused on Wally becoming the new flash. Barry existed but disappeared one day, with him being treated as a legend in the superhero community. In a JLA movie, there could be small scene with someone like Batman telling Wally that he worked with Barry in the past, and that he would be proud of the man he’s become. It would be a big part of Wally’s arch to try to live up to Barry’s legacy, with him realising that he can be his own man. Throughout the saga Barry would always be looming over the universe, allowing us to feel connected to him despite him never being seen. In a hypothetical chapter 3 during the universe’s “endgame” project, in the same vein as captain marvel’s entrance, a flash of light appears in front of the villain, with a fully powered Barry speeding out towards the threat. It would be revealed that he’s been stuck in the speed force for years, and they can recreate Wally and Barry’s reunion from the comics. This probably wouldn’t happen, but in a perfect world it would.
My theory with the justice league is that characters like Batman, green lantern and flash have all teamed up before on seperate occasions, however it wasn’t until Superman came along and thought to make it offical. I think it would be cool if the league was the first non-corporate team since the JSA.
I have a theory for your next video, here we go! Justice League Final Crisis will be the final film of DCU Chapter One Gods and Monsters the reason I say this, because the synopsis for the Lanterns HBO tv show is "The series follows new recruit John Stewart and Lantern legend Hal Jordan, two intergalactic cops drawn into a dark, earth-based mystery as they investigate a murder in the American heartland." This kind of sounds like Blackest Night, but in order to do that as your Avengers Infinity War & Avengers Endgame for DC Studios, you have to show Batman's death at the hands of Darkseid, before Batman returns as a Black Lantern, so that means DCU Chapter One Gods and Monsters will end with Justice League Final Crisis and whatever DCU Chapter Two will be called ends with Justice League Blackest Night.
I REALLY hope they stick to Martians design from young justice for the greens and white Martian, it looks so believable, their height length, the exoskeleton and the massive brains all over the body
Because of the description of what the Lanterns show is supposed to be…for chapter 1, I think Gunn is gonna go with an over arching big bad like The Centre. Just something wild and crazy that people aren’t expecting.
I feel like a JSA film set in the past where it’s not very connected to our present world could be their “prestige” film. It could be a one and done for a lot of prestige actors and filmmakers. I could see someone like Spielberg doin a JSA movies set in the 40s, 50s, or 60s. The only connection could be Wonder woman.
and when he does eventually pass the torch it could be to terry and do batman beyond live action. now this assumes superman does solid numbers next year if not again back to square one
34:47 Look mom, I'm on TV! But seriously, I completely understand what you're saying, most adults don't respect animation sadly. She should get her own movie like both Superman and Batman either way but that also applies to animation since she has never gotten one before.
The DCU needs to utilize characters that aren't usually in the spotlight in order to communicate with new fans as well as old ones. Doing so would give us a bit more understanding of how the popular DC characters (the ones under the spotlight) were viewed from different perspectives. For example, Orpheus could make a good reference into the corruption, racism and poverty in the City of Gotham and how he views Batman and the Bat family pre-The Brave and the Bold. Villain's perspectives are another thing; like Fatality and her perspective on the GL Corps or even Vandal Savage and his perspectives on these "new gods" given that he's been around ever since the beginning. But I'm really looking forward to what James Gunn has to offer. It would be great nonetheless. 🙌🏽
We need a Question series so bad. It would be awesome either way, but I feel it being part of the bigger story would be ideal. Vic studies conspiracy theories and is a reporter. To me it would fit the story that Gunn has teased.
38:37 Scott Eastwood would be a great Bruce Wayne. He certainly looks the part. He's 38 rn, by the time TBATB comes out, he might be 41-42 which is the perfect place for DCU Batman to be and to continue for another 10-15 yrs (by the time he's 55-56).
In terms of which characters are featured/headlining which projects, it makes the most sense to me to give any introductions/features/titular characters the comic book treatment. Don’t give a C list character their own movie unless you have a hell of a story and actual audience interest. Start by introducing them in other projects with the more popular characters and developing them from there. Or you can create teams of characters, but that can be hit or miss. I want this universe to be full, but I don’t want great characters to be given half-thought out treatments.
One thing I want to avoid with the DCU is having too many limited series. I'd rather several ongoing series that we can follow, but the heroes can occasionally make appearances in the film. If they are all limited series then you have the risk of making it all homework to get the full story of each chapter, and it kind of dilutes the library. Instead, a few strong ongoing series is the way to go.
I just got an idea. and thank you for giving it to me. what if we get a constantine/zantana movie? we begin with the couple fighting, (normal couple fight; idont feel like your listening, whatever" ) And the whole movie or half of the movie could be flash backs or thoughts and we get astra and whatever zantanas thing is. A real romance/ love story with superhero big bad shit. I see a relatively low budget personal thing.
39:24 I agree. Really loved the way Young Justice implemented their Light storyline.The threats felt real and it was nicely done. Hope they draw out the overarching-threat story in a similar manner!
I would love a Justice Society story set in WW2, but I would want to see the Golden Age Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman in it as well. I want to see the whole Golden Age DC universe brought to screen.
I think Raven needs her own project. I've been dreaming of a good Horror Fantasy Superhero film and Raven is one of the most disrespected characters with a lot of potential for an amazing story.
Hard agree on seeing the older characters appear in the DCU, perhaps even just retired versions for advice much like Watchmen. Would be cool to see something like that crazy Alan Scott Lantern costume in a hero museum. I also think that’s an easy way to set Batman apart, in that being a superhero is a hard job, so most heroes find an out after a while. Batman would be different because he always pushing forward like it’s year one
The problem I find with these group movies, like Avengers and Justice League, is that they have to modify the personas of the characters to create the right dynamic between them. The character gets distorted in actions or mentality etc… Flash, for example, is not really a comical character but he had to bear the part as comic relief in JL. In Watchmen, on the other hand, the characters were created together and and in sync with the very story. You cannot really tell the two apart since the characters actions is what drives the story forward.
Kind of like what Marvel did with their Netflix shows, I think The Question series could be self-contained while making passing references to other DCU elements.
I feel like the main flash will be Wally. My theory is we might see a justice league movie in ch 1 where the trinity, Hal and Barry are in there as founding members and have Barry be the one to die like he did in crisis. This will open up the possibility of Wally taking over that mantle and have the speed force be explained with Barry coming back later down the line. Hal could back down too since him and Barry were close having John Stewart be the main green lantern
It could go one of two ways. It could be what the animated universe did where they had a batman cartoon and a superman cartoon and then the justice league cartoons, meaning the other members of the justice league are introduced in the justice league dcu movie or they go the marvel route where they tease the idea of a team being put together and it being built out slowly. That's why the DCEU failed so bad. Studio interference and WB wanting to catch up to Marvel led to a justice league movie being put into production way to fast and giving almost no build up to it. The DCU needs to take it's time and establish the world. Based on the set photos and clips alone, it looks like a much more lively world and definitely more comic book-y than what the DCEU did. If a justice league movie takes 5 years to make, that might be the best way to handle it. And I'm fine with not every big member getting their own project before the justice league movie. Some projects can be heroes that aren't even on the team until way down the line. If James Gunn handles the justice league well, it could be like the Avengers where the team has shifting members. But maybe this time let's not have cyborg on the team. He's a teen titan. It's just not right. My opinion of course.
I could see a Martian manHunter series does like stranger things or ET and it’s about these kids trying to get him to the Justice League before the government catches him or something, could be cool
Personally, I don’t think comparing Martian Manhunter to Zatanna, or Constantine, etc is fair, given that he’s one of the founding members of the JLA. Even Hulk (my favorite superhero) got a solo film prior to Avengers, despite being owned by Universal. Don’t get me wrong, Constantine is probably my favorite (now) DC character after Batman, but I feel like there ARE enough Martian fans for it to be successful. Coming off the heels of Avengers though (and how they dropped the ball on Hulk for instance): the way they treat the character across the movies is 100% MORE IMPORTANT than him getting a solo film. As long they give him some focus I feel like it’s fair. Particularly if he gets a big role in the JLA movie. (ie like in the animated series)
I think the Legion of Doom would be cool. But what they should do with Lex Luther is have him play like a Sen. Palpatine roll. Where he’s playing the nice businessman turning into politician but undercover, maybe give him a mask, helmet, hood or something he’s the head of the Legion of Doom and nobody knows it. This allows him to walk around and not be immediately arrested while acting rich and pompous. Yet he can use the Legion of Doom as his minions.
Me gustaría que la legión fuera algo tipo dark Avengers en dónde mientras más y más superhéroes aparecen en el mundo Luthor crea su propio equipo de villanos haciendose pasar por heroes
I think Wonder Woman will be animation that they then can put into live action later. But I think we might even get some hints of this series in creature commandos as one of the villains seem to be an amazon. What great easter egg if we get a Wonder Woman cameo in creature commandos, then her own animated show and then she turns up for a tinity movie down the line. Also, The Question.. An old version, or the newer where The Question is Renee Montoya? If so, that could tease more bat family in the form of Batwoman!
I think when we meet Batman he should be in his early to mid 40s with a Dick Grayson a couple years into be out from under Batman’s shadow. In Batman Brave and the Bold it should be Tim as Robin, the sequel should either be a Nightwing movie with Redhood as the villain, or it should be the introduction of Damian with Batman going missing at the end OR BM1-BM2 (Damien)-BM3/Nightwing (end credit is Damien confront Dick about Bruce having disappeared-BM4 (Redhood is cosplaying BM which forces Dick to put on the cowl to keep up appearances)
Martian manhunter simply isn’t popular enough to headline a series let alone a movie. You have to bring out things that will definitely be popular if you make a decent movie. The DCU would flop before getting started if they made a show with just Martian manhunter just because you’re a fan of a smaller character doesn’t mean it’s a good idea to produce something built around it
Constantine of all the characters you’ve named has the best shot of getting a film. If you’re looking at this from the perspective of studio heads…Constantine is a great character to introduce the horror side of DC. Plus he checks one of the DEI boxes that studios seem to love. Martian Manhunter I don’t think is popular enough for a solo film, a series maybe but again MM does check DEI boxes. I’d imagine WBD wants popular characters out first and if Gunn’s c character films don’t land, he will go to the popular characters first
@@BrutalVengeance89184 so does The Batman 2. We could easily get a hellblazer series or film. The first thing to differentiate it is to call it hellblazer and not Constantine
A worlds finest movie would be amazing
That is better after 3 Superman and 3 Batman movies.
1. Worlds finest
Personally, I would prefer a trinity movie, but a Worlds Finest film that sets up the trinity or possibly the JL is great too
2. JSA
While it’s not in my top 5 or anything, that would be an awesome project especially to see the past of heroes in this universe
3. Martian Manhunter
He’s a cool character, but personally I don’t think he needs his own project. I would love to see him somewhere else in the DCU though
4. The Question
YES
5. Zantanna
Sure why not. She’s good I’m just not as big of a fan as everyone else seems to be 😂
6. Nightwing
Personally I think he does not need a whole project dedicated to himself, but I do think he should play a big part in the Teen Titans
7. Black Canary & Green
This is a duo I don’t love as much as everyone else but I do agree they need a project, whether they know eachother already or not
8. Wally West Flash
Wally is my favorite flash and I beleive he deserves a project, with or without Barry
9. Animated Wonder Woman Series
Personally I would prefer a live action film, but this works too
10. I don’t want old Batman 😭
Bruh a 30-45 year old Batman ain’t old also that just means he will be in his prime, which is the Batman we all love
11. Legion of Doom
Yes I would love to see them as a Justice league threat it would be great and that’s all I have to say about it lol
12. I hope JL isn’t formed
Completely agree, that would be waaay to far in this universe for us to start with.
That’s it, hope you enjoyed reading my options whoever sees this!
We have a lot of similar opinions
They should do JLI, maxwell gets killed by WW n then theY form the JL properly out of that
Disagree green arrow black canary romance film would be sick
That DC Swamp Thing series was FABULOUS... I was really bummed when they canceled it for what seemed like BS reasons.. hope they pick it up with a similar feel...
A Hellblazer series like an hard R rated Supernatural on max would amazing!!!
Nightwing is one of the best selling books dc has right now, no way he doesn’t get a film. A budget for a Nightwing film would be in the lower end and getting a lot of real world high end acrobatics and martial arts and some good writing and Nightwing could easily be the best character in the DCU
You just dont mention "the bat family" as gunn did without having plans for nightwing, batwoman, all the robins and all the batgirls. So.. It would be insane to not give nightwing their own movie or limited tv series.
@@voidsquirrel2395 exactly!!! Nightwing is the man right now in DC. Would be crazy not to make a Chad Stahelski or Gareth Evans Style Nightwing
Dick Grayson Is more Relatable, Vulnerable Character which is why (imo) Nightwing Movie Will Be Popular 🌟 🎥
@@kentobias4995 Dick Grayson for all intents and purposes is DC’s Spider-man. Not powers of course but in terms of character development/relatability
@@ShinAkakageLOL By The Way Actually It Opposite, Bcuz SPIDERMAN Is MORE Like "ROBINS/KNIGHTWING" & "CLARK/SUPES" With SPIDER'S POWERS In Terms CHARACTERS DEVELOPING LIKABLE RELATABILITY Bcuz BOTH ICONICS "DC" SUPERHEROES CHARACTERS COMES FIRST LOL
I think the ages of heroes matter alot, personally. Younger heroes. (Hawkgirl, Terrific) and older heroes (Hal, Guy) probably have different ideas of what heroism should be because of their generational differences (This is most likely the Kingdom Come influence). And Superman (maybe along with the rest of the JL) is more the “middle child” who steps in with reason, and forges ideals everyone can agree with and strive towards so that they can all work together in the future.
Tbh for the Green Arrow, he should really be getting his own origin story. Would be killer to see a cinematic Lian Yu and his return. Plus it's especially important to do it this way given people have been used to one version for a decade, and one who has been around for years that is more comic accurate would be too much of a shock to audiences in terms of how different he would be.
A Martian Manhunter TV series would be dope actually. A movie would not give enough time to tell his story.
You can tie Martian Manhunters origin to a Justice League movie much like they did with JL animated series
Yes you are right
If they don’t do Parralax first up and they do put together a worlds finest movie, I would love to see a hard travelling heroes movie with Ollie & Hal, you could throw Barry in as well and really lean into their dynamic with each other
As for Wonder Woman-introduce her in a live-action movie and then use an animated series to expand on her origin.
The comments super ambigious he said agreed working no release it was announced part of the chapter @christownsend7552
Vandal Savage: The First Meta - series. I really hope that the mystery that Hal & John uncover has something to do with Vandal Savage.
Lazarus pit perhaps? *pondering*
great idea
Since Gunn said that, one of his inspirations for the DC films universe would be the DCAU, I think most of the projects in this first chapter might lead up to a Justice League movie adapting the Cadmus Arc (from JLU), with Amanda Waller as the main villain.
It's possible that Legacy will establish that most super heroes in DC Universe either work for a company or the goverment (like Guy Gardner, Hawgirl and Mr Terrific) or just retired (ex: the JSA), are dead (Barry Allen) or don't work on Earth (ex: The Green lanterns). Batman is a exception since he's a street vigilante and the goverment doesn't see him as potential threat. However Superman's arrival changes this system, wirth exposing and stopping Waller and the goverment illegall operations while also inspiring guys like Mr Terrific and Hawkgirl to be more independent. From that the films begin to show more independent heroes showing up like John Stewart (he could choose to work on Earth), Flash (Wally West) and Wonder Woman.
This causes the goverment to worry of this new super heroes and so, in response, could create a special task force to oppose the heroes in case they turn against world (it could be the OMACs or the AMAZOs). However Waller decides to not wait and instead uses her control over media to frame the heroes from crimes they didn't commit and turn the public against them, so she and her task force can legally hunt the heroes down (kind like the current event in the comics, Absolute Power).
This would not only allow the DCU JL film to be different from what fans expect, but also the fact that most of the heroes were established in their own movies and TV shows, would help to give more impact when Waller and her task force captures or maybe kills some of them, bc they are all character fans would get to know, rather than being random extras.
I'm praying we get a Nightwing movie/show, either his early days as Nightwing or him as a seasoned hero in Blüdhaven!
He's just not interesting enough to carry a project all by himself. Way too derivative of Batman.
@@mareleivanovthats cap.. you clearly aren’t a nightwing fan.. you blowin smoke out ya ass.. nightwing while having similarities with Batman they’re nothing alike in terms of personality or how they go about their heroism.. dick is everything Bruce was supposed to be
Nightwing doesn't deserve a movie, maybe a tv series at best. They just need to make Titans a movie.
If they do make a Worlds Finest movie, than Andy Muschietti and James Gunn should dual direct so that Superman and Batman are each done right.
Totally agree cause i think they understand the characters
On paper that seems like an interesting idea but James and Andy would have to share a COMPLETE Vision and idk if warner bros would be up for that because money
@@RYSHU20 true true
No, one director with a singular vision would be much better.
@@BaithNa I guess so
A JSA movie would make sense since we are seeing a universe that’ll explore how superheroes have affected its history, so on, & so forth
Actually, people don't really care about animations. You can see, based on how Marvel animated TV shows perform, that the general audience won't tune in for a Wonder Woman animated series. I understand that the character may be expensive, but Wonder Woman having an animated debut in the DCU is the worst thing they could do to her.
I do hope that Wonder Woman animated series is like Harley Quinn and My Adventures with Superman - its own thing, maybe something introductory for younger generations.
That's just not true in the slightest.. if they make it good they make it good. X-Men 97 was amazing and people loved it. DC just needs to do that for wonder women. Animated media is not dead.
Hot Take: If they make Barry older 30-40 and Wally is a Flash, I think it would be better for Wally's Flash to be on an adult Titans with Dick as Nightwing.
I think the problem people have with a 10 years in Batman is that we have a concrete understanding of stories that take place within the first 10 years. But anything after that usually jumps to an alternate future like Batman beyond or the dark knight returns. There’s a period in between these two stages of his career that is largely unknown, which makes people scared, as they assume anything after the initial 10 years will be old man Batman
We need more voices like Boba in the DC fan space. Great video! An eventual World's Finest movie could be amazing!
World's Finest - an antidote to what has become a cliche in which Superman and Batman battle. See WF face two big bads: Monghul and Ra's. Justice League. Let Supergirl fill Wonder Woman's shoes with the exception of a Paradise Lost that leads, perhaps, to JSA, and develop other females - Huntress, whomever. Titans. Starfire. Hawkgirl.
Yes, I would love to have the Legion of Doom in this cinematic universe!
I think Legacy gives insight to Gunns ideas for the world. Justice League will be created in a later movie with inspiration from the Justice Society, carrying on a more honorable legacy for superheroes. Hawk Girl, Mr Terrific, and Green Lantern are both second or third iteration of a character, following in someone else's legacy. Superman himself having a huge legacy to live up to both in story and meta, being the last survivor of Krypton (for now) and possibly a fatherly death along with the real world legacy of Superman in media and pop culture
I think the reason some fans would feel bummed out about the Justice League already existing in Gunn’s DCU is because that means there are a ton of stories that have already taken place for the team that the audience will never get to see. It would only be hinted at in exposition, Easter eggs, or flashbacks.
If they skip over some stories it will be fine. I mean we don't need the Justice League vs Starro for example
I feel like only the Justice Society and Justice League International as its successors are the teams that are pre-existing in the DCU. Once Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman show up and change the game, the Justice League of America become a thing.
If they use Stargirl in anything they MUST recast the actress from the sadly cancelled CW Stargirl series, she was so wholesome and believable.
It’s great to hear some optimism and positivity about DC’s future. I’ve been looking for a channel like yours.
I appreciate that!
Zatanna is my 3rd favorite Superhero so I'd lose my mind if she got a solo project, but I think it's more likely that she'll only be in a Justice League Dark or Constantine project, then again if Dead Man can get a solo Animated Series then maybe so could Zatanna
Wally West is my favorite Flash so I'd love to see him
Green Arrow and Black Canary just like Hawk and Dove in Titans, I think Crime Fighting Couples is interesting to see and can be pretty good
It would be cool to have more single character centric projects but I know at this point, that won’t happen like we’ve seen elsewhere. I’m really excited for the projects we know about already and can’t wait to see what else will be create.
I can see the Wonder Woman project being a DCU project and hope it is!
Great video!!
Did you listen to John Murphy's theme for Superman? "Up in the Sky"? Mr. Williams, eat your heart out!
Unfortunately, that’s not the real theme, but it is great!
That's an imagining of what Murphy's score might sound like by a UA-camr composer. But I have been listening to Murphy's "Flying Home" theme from the Kick-Ass soundtrack on repeat lately.. it's pretty epic.
The phrase “your guys’s” is hilarious.
That is a *huge* pet peeve for me. Drives me nuts.
I grew up on the east coast in Pittsburgh, PA, and they have the MOST annoying version of that.
Instead of saying "you guys" or even "y'all", they say "yinz guys", or just "yinz" (as in "hey yinz, how's it going?"). It sounds even dumber than it looks typed out.
They also call wolves "woofs" and creeks "criks". I will never understand.
Yes, we NEED Martian Manhunter and the Legion of Doom! Great video Boba!
Let's not forget that Gunn more than once has address things like deathstroke and talked about other titans and a few other things on titans
The Question is THE conspiracy guy, let him have this conspiracy!
The Question could totally fit into the Green Lantern series, with them investigating the ancient evil, he could totally come through for them.
That's a great idea and if they wanted to just straight Sci-Fi mixed with supernatural Phantom Stranger or Spectre would be cool to see as well
But idk if he'd be associating with The Lantern Corps
@@RYSHU20 They could be investigating the same case from different angles plus seeing him interact with the Lanterns would be awesome.
I’m so glad you posted this, I’m so down bad and comics seem to be the only light in my world right now. Thanks Boba
Ollie and Hal and Barry are typically around the same age and form two popular pairs in the comics, so if Hal is going to be in his 40s - 50s, I expect the same for the other two. Ollie was in his 40s for most of Post-Crisis anyway in the comics, so I always expected that for the DCU. Which means Roy would be Arsenal with Connor Hawke also acting as Green Arrow whenever we're introduced to them
Justice Leauge Dark would kick ass
Not before the actual Justice League though
@@claudiabcarvalhoyes it would because the best comes last, having that before the actual would be okay.
As long as JJ Abrahams isn't involved
@@lilstupidahhboy5155 That makes no sense continuity wise.
Love that you put clips of Flash v Reverse Flash while talking about preferences 💪🏻
I gotta give Boba some credit.You're on vacation and you still dropping some banger videos.
I'm so glad boba brought this up . a wonder woman animated series would be 🔥 . I personally would love to see a wonder woman series set in the timm verse set in the dcau with the batman Animated series , JLU ANIMATED Series ETC ETC . I Would Also LOVE ONE SET IN THE DCU aswell .
That Arrow & Canary idea would be awesome!! I love the idea of them doing something with The Question too. I could see a standalone mini-series on Max. Wouldn't mind an easter egg that connects to something else in the DCU but for the most part, still having it be a standalone story within the universe. I honestly wasn't a Question fan until Justice League Unlimited, he was so well done on that show.
Other characters i'd love to see eventually make their way into the DCU: Black Lightning, Firestorm, a more comic accurate Black Adam, Mr. Miracle & Barda, Zatanna, Huntress.
And yes, I definitely want a true World's Finest movie! Superman & Batman teaming up against whoever.
In regards to green arrow I think the best way to tease to him is during the superman film there's an article being worked on about Oliver queen being found on an island and is back home safe after expected dead
i wonder if Martian Manhunter will appear in Lanterns. i don’t think it’s out of the question, speaking of, i hope we see the Question sooner than later. i think i’d prefer a stand alone detective story, but he can team up with others occasionally, like Batman to uncover a deeper mystery
Bob i maybe in Zimbabwe but I love your work brother, I Just hope I can get your help and be as grt as you
Ayyyyyy a new discussion vid!
Thank you so much Brutal, what a great thing to come back to!! Just got back from vacation, so I'll be getting on Space Marine 2 soon!
@@BobaTalks np bud, & sweet dude! Whenever your free hmu & we’ll play! FOR THE EMPEROR
@@BobaTalks Hi please can you call it DC Studios instead of DCU ( we want you to report on all DC news not just DCU )
I hope we get a Martian Manhunter
Is it just me or is this universe already, so fleshed out and well thought out? It makes me so excited. The universe hasn’t even started yet and look how far ahead we already are with our thoughts of where it can go (and it doesn’t even seem far fetched)
I think my ideal version of a flash project would be focused on Wally becoming the new flash. Barry existed but disappeared one day, with him being treated as a legend in the superhero community. In a JLA movie, there could be small scene with someone like Batman telling Wally that he worked with Barry in the past, and that he would be proud of the man he’s become.
It would be a big part of Wally’s arch to try to live up to Barry’s legacy, with him realising that he can be his own man. Throughout the saga Barry would always be looming over the universe, allowing us to feel connected to him despite him never being seen.
In a hypothetical chapter 3 during the universe’s “endgame” project, in the same vein as captain marvel’s entrance, a flash of light appears in front of the villain, with a fully powered Barry speeding out towards the threat. It would be revealed that he’s been stuck in the speed force for years, and they can recreate Wally and Barry’s reunion from the comics.
This probably wouldn’t happen, but in a perfect world it would.
My theory with the justice league is that characters like Batman, green lantern and flash have all teamed up before on seperate occasions, however it wasn’t until Superman came along and thought to make it offical. I think it would be cool if the league was the first non-corporate team since the JSA.
9:16 I think he meant he didn’t want an old 45-50 year old Batman starting out in the DCU.
I have a theory for your next video, here we go!
Justice League Final Crisis will be the final film of DCU Chapter One Gods and Monsters the reason I say this, because the synopsis for the Lanterns HBO tv show is "The series follows new recruit John Stewart and Lantern legend Hal Jordan, two intergalactic cops drawn into a dark, earth-based mystery as they investigate a murder in the American heartland." This kind of sounds like Blackest Night, but in order to do that as your Avengers Infinity War & Avengers Endgame for DC Studios, you have to show Batman's death at the hands of Darkseid, before Batman returns as a Black Lantern, so that means DCU Chapter One Gods and Monsters will end with Justice League Final Crisis and whatever DCU Chapter Two will be called ends with Justice League Blackest Night.
They are not going to touch anything Darkseid for at least chapter three and they are not going to kill Batman for a while.
i would like to see a nightwing cartoon-series included in dcu, including some cameos of wally west's flash and the titans.
I REALLY hope they stick to Martians design from young justice for the greens and white Martian, it looks so believable, their height length, the exoskeleton and the massive brains all over the body
Left a like. Enjoy your trip Boba
Because of the description of what the Lanterns show is supposed to be…for chapter 1, I think Gunn is gonna go with an over arching big bad like The Centre. Just something wild and crazy that people aren’t expecting.
Come on man, I've been waiting on your video for quite some time now 😭😭😭
THE AUTHORITY VS THE JUSTICE LEAGUE
I think a *JL Dark* series with Constantine, Zatanna, Phantom Stranger, Spectre and Chimp detective would be awesome.
I feel like a JSA film set in the past where it’s not very connected to our present world could be their “prestige” film. It could be a one and done for a lot of prestige actors and filmmakers. I could see someone like Spielberg doin a JSA movies set in the 40s, 50s, or 60s. The only connection could be Wonder woman.
and when he does eventually pass the torch it could be to terry and do batman beyond live action. now this assumes superman does solid numbers next year if not again back to square one
34:47 Look mom, I'm on TV!
But seriously, I completely understand what you're saying, most adults don't respect animation sadly. She should get her own movie like both Superman and Batman either way but that also applies to animation since she has never gotten one before.
The DCU needs to utilize characters that aren't usually in the spotlight in order to communicate with new fans as well as old ones. Doing so would give us a bit more understanding of how the popular DC characters (the ones under the spotlight) were viewed from different perspectives.
For example, Orpheus could make a good reference into the corruption, racism and poverty in the City of Gotham and how he views Batman and the Bat family pre-The Brave and the Bold.
Villain's perspectives are another thing; like Fatality and her perspective on the GL Corps or even Vandal Savage and his perspectives on these "new gods" given that he's been around ever since the beginning.
But I'm really looking forward to what James Gunn has to offer. It would be great nonetheless. 🙌🏽
If they do a Justice League movie I hope the lineup would be Diana, Clark, Bruce, J'onn, Vixen, Zatanna, Canary, and Hal.
Martian Manhunter as an intergalactic detective with a choco addiction
I’m definitely down for a Green Arrow movie!! That would be awesome 🏹
Good discussion video.
We need a Question series so bad. It would be awesome either way, but I feel it being part of the bigger story would be ideal. Vic studies conspiracy theories and is a reporter. To me it would fit the story that Gunn has teased.
I can't wait for creature commandos n for all this to start, I got a feeling this is gona be awesome, James guns gona smash it
13:54 Imagine lakeith Stanflied as the Question😮💨😮💨
38:37 Scott Eastwood would be a great Bruce Wayne. He certainly looks the part. He's 38 rn, by the time TBATB comes out, he might be 41-42 which is the perfect place for DCU Batman to be and to continue for another 10-15 yrs (by the time he's 55-56).
In terms of which characters are featured/headlining which projects, it makes the most sense to me to give any introductions/features/titular characters the comic book treatment. Don’t give a C list character their own movie unless you have a hell of a story and actual audience interest. Start by introducing them in other projects with the more popular characters and developing them from there. Or you can create teams of characters, but that can be hit or miss. I want this universe to be full, but I don’t want great characters to be given half-thought out treatments.
Would you like a Static Shock movie?
Imagine a Wonder Woman movie set during either, the Revolutionary War or the Civil War, featuring some iteration of the JSA.
One thing I want to avoid with the DCU is having too many limited series. I'd rather several ongoing series that we can follow, but the heroes can occasionally make appearances in the film.
If they are all limited series then you have the risk of making it all homework to get the full story of each chapter, and it kind of dilutes the library. Instead, a few strong ongoing series is the way to go.
I just got an idea. and thank you for giving it to me. what if we get a constantine/zantana movie? we begin with the couple fighting, (normal couple fight; idont feel like your listening, whatever" ) And the whole movie or half of the movie could be flash backs or thoughts and we get astra and whatever zantanas thing is. A real romance/ love story with superhero big bad shit. I see a relatively low budget personal thing.
39:24 I agree. Really loved the way Young Justice implemented their Light storyline.The threats felt real and it was nicely done.
Hope they draw out the overarching-threat story in a similar manner!
I would love a Justice Society story set in WW2, but I would want to see the Golden Age Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman in it as well. I want to see the whole Golden Age DC universe brought to screen.
I think Raven needs her own project. I've been dreaming of a good Horror Fantasy Superhero film and Raven is one of the most disrespected characters with a lot of potential for an amazing story.
Hard agree on seeing the older characters appear in the DCU, perhaps even just retired versions for advice much like Watchmen. Would be cool to see something like that crazy Alan Scott Lantern costume in a hero museum. I also think that’s an easy way to set Batman apart, in that being a superhero is a hard job, so most heroes find an out after a while. Batman would be different because he always pushing forward like it’s year one
The problem I find with these group movies, like Avengers and Justice League, is that they have to modify the personas of the characters to create the right dynamic between them. The character gets distorted in actions or mentality etc…
Flash, for example, is not really a comical character but he had to bear the part as comic relief in JL. In Watchmen, on the other hand, the characters were created together and and in sync with the very story. You cannot really tell the two apart since the characters actions is what drives the story forward.
Kind of like what Marvel did with their Netflix shows, I think The Question series could be self-contained while making passing references to other DCU elements.
I feel like the main flash will be Wally. My theory is we might see a justice league movie in ch 1 where the trinity, Hal and Barry are in there as founding members and have Barry be the one to die like he did in crisis. This will open up the possibility of Wally taking over that mantle and have the speed force be explained with Barry coming back later down the line. Hal could back down too since him and Barry were close having John Stewart be the main green lantern
Justice society was best portrayed in smallville
We need a show like Justice League Unlimited where every episode focuses on a different character(s)
It could go one of two ways. It could be what the animated universe did where they had a batman cartoon and a superman cartoon and then the justice league cartoons, meaning the other members of the justice league are introduced in the justice league dcu movie or they go the marvel route where they tease the idea of a team being put together and it being built out slowly. That's why the DCEU failed so bad. Studio interference and WB wanting to catch up to Marvel led to a justice league movie being put into production way to fast and giving almost no build up to it. The DCU needs to take it's time and establish the world. Based on the set photos and clips alone, it looks like a much more lively world and definitely more comic book-y than what the DCEU did. If a justice league movie takes 5 years to make, that might be the best way to handle it. And I'm fine with not every big member getting their own project before the justice league movie. Some projects can be heroes that aren't even on the team until way down the line. If James Gunn handles the justice league well, it could be like the Avengers where the team has shifting members. But maybe this time let's not have cyborg on the team. He's a teen titan. It's just not right. My opinion of course.
I could see a Martian manHunter series does like stranger things or ET and it’s about these kids trying to get him to the Justice League before the government catches him or something, could be cool
I want a worlds finest movie so bad it has so much potential!
What's the timeliness for chapter 1?
Personally, I don’t think comparing Martian Manhunter to Zatanna, or Constantine, etc is fair, given that he’s one of the founding members of the JLA. Even Hulk (my favorite superhero) got a solo film prior to Avengers, despite being owned by Universal. Don’t get me wrong, Constantine is probably my favorite (now) DC character after Batman, but I feel like there ARE enough Martian fans for it to be successful. Coming off the heels of Avengers though (and how they dropped the ball on Hulk for instance): the way they treat the character across the movies is 100% MORE IMPORTANT than him getting a solo film. As long they give him some focus I feel like it’s fair. Particularly if he gets a big role in the JLA movie. (ie like in the animated series)
I think the Legion of Doom would be cool. But what they should do with Lex Luther is have him play like a Sen. Palpatine roll. Where he’s playing the nice businessman turning into politician but undercover, maybe give him a mask, helmet, hood or something he’s the head of the Legion of Doom and nobody knows it. This allows him to walk around and not be immediately arrested while acting rich and pompous. Yet he can use the Legion of Doom as his minions.
Me gustaría que la legión fuera algo tipo dark Avengers en dónde mientras más y más superhéroes aparecen en el mundo Luthor crea su propio equipo de villanos haciendose pasar por heroes
DC should do a hard traveling heroes movie with GA & GL if they'll do a World's finest movie.
Silver age had the JSA as Earth 2 - I think that would be cooler but…
I would love it if the DCU worked up to a War of Light adaptation
Have good vacation buddy
I think Wonder Woman will be animation that they then can put into live action later. But I think we might even get some hints of this series in creature commandos as one of the villains seem to be an amazon. What great easter egg if we get a Wonder Woman cameo in creature commandos, then her own animated show and then she turns up for a tinity movie down the line.
Also, The Question.. An old version, or the newer where The Question is Renee Montoya? If so, that could tease more bat family in the form of Batwoman!
3:45 - One can only hope 😁
I think when we meet Batman he should be in his early to mid 40s with a Dick Grayson a couple years into be out from under Batman’s shadow. In Batman Brave and the Bold it should be Tim as Robin, the sequel should either be a Nightwing movie with Redhood as the villain, or it should be the introduction of Damian with Batman going missing at the end OR BM1-BM2 (Damien)-BM3/Nightwing (end credit is Damien confront Dick about Bruce having disappeared-BM4 (Redhood is cosplaying BM which forces Dick to put on the cowl to keep up appearances)
Gunn's Batman will probably be in his 30s or something.
Martian manhunter simply isn’t popular enough to headline a series let alone a movie. You have to bring out things that will definitely be popular if you make a decent movie. The DCU would flop before getting started if they made a show with just Martian manhunter just because you’re a fan of a smaller character doesn’t mean it’s a good idea to produce something built around it
I hope Gunn can figure out how to fet us a soli kive action Deathstroke movie
Constantine of all the characters you’ve named has the best shot of getting a film. If you’re looking at this from the perspective of studio heads…Constantine is a great character to introduce the horror side of DC. Plus he checks one of the DEI boxes that studios seem to love. Martian Manhunter I don’t think is popular enough for a solo film, a series maybe but again MM does check DEI boxes. I’d imagine WBD wants popular characters out first and if Gunn’s c character films don’t land, he will go to the popular characters first
And yet , Constantine 2 is in works and it belongs to DC elseworld banner
@@BrutalVengeance89184 so does The Batman 2. We could easily get a hellblazer series or film. The first thing to differentiate it is to call it hellblazer and not Constantine
Josh Brolin has passed on playing Hal Jordan btw.
7:31 manhunters could be involved in the plot of Lanterns
Maybe Martian Manhunter is part of the storyline in Lanterns,