The biggest issue that's STILL plaguing Helldivers 2
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- Somehow... "Helldivers 2 is dead" trends are back! But they do pose a serious question. Why has the game lost 90% of it's concurrent playerbase? Let's debunk some of the rumors/clickbait, answer that question, and find out how Arrowhead can save their game!
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I didn't met any of the crashes (except when I tried to quit the game) so my problems are different.
I like the game, but I have issues.
- The music is way too repetitive. This doesn't bother me much, because the soundtrack itself is good. Too bad there is like 5 tracks in the game, so I mute it.
- The reload is unresponsive. Sometimes it takes like three button presses to even start the reload.
- Sometimes the gun is just... empty. I shoot like two times and the ammo just disappears.
- Sometimes the enemies break and they just send attack wave after attack wave. Follow you to the ends of the earth. Sometimes they do nothing at all. Sometimes they notice you laying on the ground, behind a tree.
- Chargers are straight up not fun to fight. They are the sole reason I prefer Automatons and why I always bring a Flamethrower against Terminids.
- My biggest gripe so far: the sound design. It's horrible. Atrocious. It's even worse if you've played any of the horde shooter games in the past 15 years. Enemies spawn behind me, Chargers are literal ninjas, I can't hear a fucking Tank on the other side of the wall. In a game like this you NEED sound cues. Distinct sound for each enemy. It's so frustrating. Try Left 4 Dead 2, Vermintide 2, Darktide, Deep Rock Galactic, Payday 2. Play them and you'll know what I mean. Hey, at least I know I'm in range of an enemy artillery! Thanks. I didn't notice, because I can't hear a god damn mortar shell. I got killed so many times because of these things. At least I can play the game with some video playing as background noise and I'm not worse off for it.
I really don't understand why balance is the focus on a PVE game.
Mfs be calling a game with 50-80k players dead
Like isn’t that the numbers that most games strive to get?
Arrowhead are getting daily the most players they thought they'd get ever.
Apparently that's a dead game to some people? It's more than the devs planned and designed the game to have.
people say it's a dead ame because they lost players, they, fore some reason, don't look at how many people STILL play
I still think the numbers are pretty good because I rank Helldivers 2 third behind Call of Duty and Fortnite.
@@TooDirtyHellDivers 2 is also a Double A game. So the fact that it’s pulling triple A numbers at all it’s a testament. It’s nowhere near dead right now lol
Yeah, I can name a "dead" game (and even that one isnt fully dead). Ark survival ascended. The old ark survival evolved has more players due to bad handling by the company. Increasing microtransactions, one of the worst performing games (in terms of fps) on pc and console even tho it could be much better...
I can deal with all the game-breaking bugs if need to, but the worst of the worst is why they haven't implented a reconnect button? Too many times when I reached the end, the game crashes. Good bye almost 40 minutes of work with no xp or sample. That's the depressing part.
My microphone hasn't worked since the "big patch". It's not the microphone, it's the game, as every other program sees the microphone and accepts it's audio input.
happened to me too, steam updated proton and then it worked again
This happened to me as well. I un-installed steelseries program and reinstalled which solved my issue.
i had this problem too i had to go in to sound settings and disable any mic that wasnt my main mic. Booted up the game and it worked
@Matthew-is1ih played a couple hours today, enles loading screen happened once, and twice the game disconnected everyone right before extraction..
The biggest bug I have a problem with is reloading idk why but a my guy just reloads a single shot and there goes a whole mag, it happens like multiple times a game and it’s infuriating when i actually run out of ammo too it
I saw a lot of people who believes that Helldivers 2 - is PUBG. And if the game was not contend over at least 200'000 players - that game is dead. And continue screaming about that, literally everywhere, like seagulls in Nemo.
Some of them - are dumb haters, that blame the game, just because it's popular, and want it's closing, just because they want this. That's crazy, i say.
As a one - who bought HD2, i in most cases just wait 1 or 2 minutes in matchmaking, then dive and play just because i want some fun, even if i unlocked all primary guns in game.
Sometimes i meet the bugs and crashes, but it's because new path have some issues. In previous, i played well, and up my ship modules - all to max. If i meet the issue, i just close the game like true sigma, and open it again. Yes, i lose 2-4 minutes of my life to restart, but then i play again.
Devs throw some interesting patches, content and balance changes, open some new maps and play with community. And i like this. My happiness costs not so high, and i don't want entire gameplay reworks, fresh content every day and 200000+ people in game. I just come and play for relax, or tryhard with randoms, who are now not newbies.
Even if devs goes to relax for 6 weeks, i will be fine, close the game and play another. Then if they comes - i open HD2 and play a lot more again.
I don’t even take a minute to matchmake. 10 seconds and I’m already in. It’s a matter of choosing the right planets (ie: the ones everyone else is because they’re trying to complete the major order)
Saw someone say that this game was never meant to be this big, it's not meant to compete with big titles that big companies dish out every year with their many season passes and such. I do agree with this notion and I still play Helldivers 2 daily because I actually like the game and I know it is only going to be better over time. It is a team of some 100 people and I don't expect them to throw out new content as they fix current bugs. I expect them to fix the bugs and other little things the game has issues with before they send out new content.
everyone saying it is dead will make the game dead
Yes
Yeah it's really not dead, so many games would die to have 50k plus players playing at one time
Calling it like they see it. The game has died. No content to incentivize a continued player base.
@@bigpasa3oh57 the game is not dead
It is dead there is no leveling.
why are people saying helldivers is dead
40k players dose not mean a game is dead
Imagine you are attacking planets with around 30k people, it still takes multiple days to get it,Helldivers 2 doesnt work as other games.-
@@bomx-w2q Nah, pay attention to the resistance on some planets that need liberation, the devs have already confirmed to match the level of how many players are currently playing. Don't get that over your head. Helldivers 2 Companion confirms its statuses.
@@bomx-w2q A New Major Order for planet X-45 started today and the planet is already 100% done and it is supposed to end in 5 days. The Major Order before that included 5 planets and we finished them pretty fast. 50 to 60k players is more than fine for this game.
I think he means in terms of where Helldivers was.
40k from 400k is a very big drop. It’s not a dead game but that’s just a brainless argument. As the man in the video said, the active player base just hops on less often
No reason i shouldn't be averaging 100fps on a 800 dollar gpu
The game isnt dead, but fixing all the big bugs and improve performance would definitely make it feel better and woukd def vring people back
I’ve had so many instances where the final drill on the geo mission just stop working and hard locks the mission, if they don’t fix it at least make it breakable like the dark fluid drills, that way we can redo it
Btw sliding charger don't stop by themselves as normal. Chargers can start walking with speed of charge and they won't stop until they hit you or something else and you can't outrun it
They released a new armor feature, Peak Physique, that literally did nothing for anyone. This wasn’t an edge case or sometimes didn’t work for some people. It flat out did not work at all under any circumstances. This really goes to show how much they actually test things before and after releasing content.
And this was from a warbond they are charging extra money for (assuming you didn’t grind out super credits 10 at a time from random points of interest)
I 100% agree they should go absolute ham on the bugs and glitches and then add some new content we can wait for more stuff we need to be able to play the original game before we get more stuff
11:06 Fun fact, I actually stayed in the loading screen for an hour because I was curious. Some effects cancel after time, like events on the planet and even the hellpod flames disappear after around an hour.
true, these bugs/glitches are so annoying, the most i encounter is stuck in the hell pod deploy loading screen, it pretty much every 2~3 missions
Next time you say that TF2 has a spaghetti code, just look at Helldivers 2 code😂
Could they please look into game optimisation? Its like the game patches and i can reinstall the game completely or the game sometimes has huge frame drops in loading assets. Especially in first diving onto the plsnet, where it stutters at 10 fps, i land an d get 60, i call down weapons, 10fps. Game stutters and after the initial 2-5 minutes, the game stays fine.
Im already playing on ssd and changing graphics doesnt change the stutter.
Thank you for speaking about the bugs. The majority of the players blames Sony for the loss of the player counts. While that's also true, AH also played a part in this. Especially the nerfs and bugs.
If you look up one of the most popular 4 player coop games that people always talk about how good it is, Deep Rock Galactic, it has around 25,000 players steady.
These games don't have six figure player base numbers, and Helldivers was just a breakaway success that was never going to keep even half of it's all time cap.
Is it just me or like if you dolphin dive you like instantly rag doll, it’s been happening more often, anyone else noticing this?
I used to convince my friends to get the game and spread democracy together. With all the bugs, glitches and poor performance issue, i no longer feel the need to persuade them cuz im als tired of the lags i getting even from lowest graphics setting and glitches that forced me to exit the game.
@@jameyli2628 yeah same
Oh, so its not just me that had to turn the game down to the lowest graphics.
I thought my computer was getting old, but that might not be the case after all.
Agree 100% crashing is boring me out
I often run into the loading screen bug alot and its easily avoided if the players exit via the airlock and not just jump out. It shouldnt be the case at all but it at least avoidable and we all rememeber what cyberpunk was like when it lauchned, at least helldivers is playable for 99% of the time
This is exactly why you’re my favorite HD2 UA-camr.
You were spot on in every way with every point.
I am SO glad that you brought up the Charger sprint bugs and fps dropping.
I honestly thought I may have been the only one seeing them, but clearly that’s not the case.
So many people don’t talk about the real issues with game like you’ve done here.
Well done, Easy. You’ve always stayed true to your namesake lmao.
I got this game about 2 week ago, and LOVE IT. I soon saw that this game isn’t meant to be grinded. Just play, have fun, and unlock some cool stuff along the way
5:40 you forgot two bugs thats been in the game since launched and only recently fixed. The infamous D.O.T bug AND the PS5 DMG bug which is the sole reason the Railgun got nerfed as hard as it did. The D.O.T bug was damage over time effected ONLY the host so anybody else using D.O.T was doing jack shit. This affected incendiary grenades thermite grenades gas strike napalm strike basically anything D.O.T which was half of the armory. The Ps5 Bug was in effect whenever a ps5 player was in your game everybodies weapons would do 2-3x as much damage this resulted in railgun one shotting bile titan heads quasar doing the same and basically any support weapon til it was fixed which heavily sqewed balance and AH has not acknowledged it at all or said anything about reverting the nerfs during the time the bug was in effect
youtube vid: Game is buggy
Me: gets stuck on a loading screen that takes longer than an actual drop from orbit
Only one needs to leave and it will then work for others. Weird bug.
It’s also important to note that the elden ring dlc is out and has 90% concurrent players of it’s all time peak rn I know that’s why I’ve been playing less helldivers
They still haven't fixed the stuck in infinite loadscreen bug and now with the new update some main objectives are literally broken. The screens are black and you can't interact with them so you literally cannot do the main objective. Great job Arrowhead. -_-
The only issue I have had really in the past month is playing with randoms who rage quit causing the game to crash, when I play with friends who stay and fight I don't have it happen
3:35 *proceeds to faceplant the floor*😂
one thing you do need to remember is the bugs will take time to fix arrowhead does not have that many devs so they will take time to fix like it would take time for us helldivers to liberate planets (also i haven't finished the video just yet so don't get mad if he did mention it)
Ofc it had the most WHEN IT CAME OUT it’s been out for a while people don’t play all day most days but rest assured people still love this game and come back all the time
As a player who tends to find some really small titles, bugs have almost become part of the experience for me. My response upon seeing one is usually between a mild bummer and just straight up laughing at the nonsense
Sure, some of them annoy far more than others, but I haven’t ever really held it against the developers. My anger tends to stay directed at the bug and the inconvenience it caused. After that, I just try to determine what’s generally causing it, and avoid doing that.
I argued months ago before I entirely gave up attempting to play that they should Livestream the #troubleshooting channel in their discord to Steam so people understand what they're getting into lmao.
I could not agree with the points in this video more, however I really don't know how anyone forces their way into the slivers of enjoyability the game offers over all the brokenness. The excuses I've heard of "brand new game", "didn't expect so many players" etc. lose more traction by the day. At this point in time, the state of the game and it's declining performance is unexcusable. No game deserves so much credit and patience for being so busted.
The worst issue of all is that while all of these game-breaking bugs persist, the devs at Arrowhead are on their third vacation. They've lost me as a fan, I'll still play a defensive mission once a week though
They aren’t all on Vacation, they still have people working on the game, considering they were an indie company that suddenly has been hit with the expectations of a triple A
I understand if your pissed at them, but honestly they’ve been overworked and overtaxed since the game dropped, let’s see what they can do once they’ve had a chance to catch their breathe
They live in a country that has a healthy relationship with work. Screw their family time, right? Working yourself to the bone is not glamorous.
You're either under 18 or not too bright.
While I do want more, you're expecting triple A quantity work from a indie company. They don't have a huge studio full of devs as well as a huge design team. Just take a break and come back in a month. Hell do what I'm, play maybe an hour or two a day. Then just play Skyrim, that's always fun.
@@YeahRightMCDyes we do not care about devs we care about the game
@@THUNDERXJ13 Some people are pieces of $#!t. Do you.
Hands Down, The biggest issue for me is the broken Friend system. I would have 4x as many friends if the system worked properly and would be 4x more likely to play.
U got to remember it’s a team of like 100 devs compared to most games with like 3000
Consumers don’t care about a company’s problems, only the quality of the product
I just started playing helldivers 2 for the first time and its so fun. I guess ive gotten lucky because ive only ran into the stim bug
Upvoted and commented to promote, broke my pc nearly resting to get hd2 to work, they need more bug fixes, i think they need a bigger codebase per planet and system to maintain stability
This 6 week summer break is more important than the player’s time…
personally the reason i dont play anymore is because of the CONSTANT drop in fps, no i aint talking about dropping to 80 or 60 fps, im talking 15 fps tops, and ive tried the whole dx11 use graphics card fps cap and the whole shabang. It just sucks that only people with super rigs or are incredibly lucky can run this game with no dips in their performance :/
I haven't played since a little after the SONY situation and that's cause I was running into the toxic part of the community way too much as the player base boiled down to a few hundred thousand players a day. I was either just getting games where I was kicked before even touching the ground or just team killed. For me, it was the community that made me leave. I just can't deal with how the devs and part of the player base treat this like an all-or-nothing pvp game.
The biggest issue is no new content, same bugs. Most of my friends stopped due to the crashes. The rest is going to come back after the new race.
I think the problem is compatibility with Windows, I play on a Steam deck and I have no bugs or fps problems, the game works great in medium quality, especially in the jungle. I have seen that many have problems with antivirus or with the game's anti cheat, those things are not needed by the steam deck
I just want my account back from the PSN fiasco, put in my refund order when that was required, it's no longer needed yet I can't log back in at all, never even got the money back, just basically a ban
125 days the spear was broken. They don't have any excuses. You can say this game isn't dying, but people's tolerance is. Just remember the unbelievable amount of glazing this game had in the beginning, and how long that lasted until it all wore everyone's goodwill down.
It's just summer work hours stopping me from playing. Hard to have time when you work a 15 or 16 hour shift. Barely finding time to eat full meals lol.
Plus I've been making my very own Helldiver Armor with my 3d printer on my weekends, which can take time to scale to my body and im still getting the supports ironed out on a new slicer program.
I dont mind glitches man ive been playing games for a long time honestly it makes it more fun imo
For me, every patch made performance worse to the point of the game running like shit and crashing every other match. The devs haven't even acknowledged the degrading performance
Honestly even if the game only had 2k players it would still be playable since you only need up to four people to actually play the game
why the hell did they use a AUTODESK game engine for this game ??? I have never seen, heard or played a single game that was made using this engine.
I can't play everyday, because I don't have time to play, lol. I love Helldivers 2, because I can play 1 or 2 missions and get off. Helldivers 2 is my favorite game right now.
Is it worth starting helldivers at this point of time?
You probably should hold off until next major patch
Mostly because of the constant crashes and performance issues
Absolutely. There are legit issues, but you only need 3 other people to play with and the price hasn't been reduced yet, showing that it hasn't even hit market saturation yet.
I haven't experienced crashes in so long
I say yes get it and enjoy it now, yea it's buggy and a bit of a mess but it works more often than not, vids like these do make it seem worse than it is, the loading loop is easy to avoid. As long as players exit via the airlock instead of just jumping away it doesn't set off the bug is what I've found.
These crashes don’t happen to much on lower difficulty. So if you have the early levels a shot it’s still fun. To me, people play games to much and too much of it gets you bored no matter what you play. I’m almost 150 hours in and I now just play once a week with my friends and enjoy it still.
There’s a lot of people overdramatizing balancing but the bugs can be annoying ONLY when it kicks you out of a game
You hit everything on the head. It was fun but now it is more tiring to play. I even stopped helping newbies since I experienced some getting DCed after I join. When I experience something different, I don't even know if its an "update" or just another bug. Its frustrating.
i hope instead releasing new content, they will focus on fixing the glitches and bugs. im tired of being stuck under a mountain or in a ragdoll animation. Or 20 biles spawning on top of my head.
after around 105 hours
the game is not as fun as before. (and I got the game around 2 months ago, but after psn drama)
My game has had some many issues but not performance issues. Max settings, 130 fps average
Yeah I’ve had the friends list big for a month too. Once I couldn’t join people on discord using mics, I stopped playing.
Friends list is a problem and has actually gotten worse for me. Can’t friend anyone or delete any existing friends
@@Gumpmachine1 yeah, it’s extremely lame. The only thing keeping me playing more than one mission was talking to people while playing lol
@@joshbeckett9255 frustrating because at its core there’s a great game with huge potential
@@joshbeckett9255 I enjoy the game play but…….unless they sort these other issues they will continue to bleed players at a faster rate than necessary
Finally someone who doesn't just lick on Arrowhead boot saying "Oh the game was meant to have this amount of players oh everything's alright oh we shouldn't worry so what if 95% of players just DON'T PLAY, it was a hype no need to worry" when the game literally BEGS you to stop playing with crashes, bugs, lags, stupid useless balance decisions, REMOVING half of players because haha Sony is the dumbest piece of worthless morons, PERFECT game decisions like gunships being hunters with devastators destructive power because HAHA IT WAS A GREAT IDEA, robots being literally all-seeing no matter what. Did I start with the performance issues?
All the bugs and crashes feel like a purely PC issue. Thank god I play games on console. May be lower fps but at least my games will work almost 100% of the time compared to PC.
The fortnite kids from TikTok are not playing games with less than 100,000 players for some reason.
I really liked this game I took a break from it because they just kept making too many changes in such a short period of time you play one combination of guns that you really enjoy and all of a sudden the next day those guns don't do anything to the enemies. So then it's like you ReDiscover some new set or combination that works and you finally get really into it the next day that doesn't work now either. I understand that you need to balance the game. Put the stuff in like an experimental branch or something. I played a good month or so every single day and I kept telling myself it's going to get better with the guns at some point. I don't play Destiny anymore but it should been done the way of how Bungie did it... Let everyone know your nerfing a gun. Then updated on a Tuesday or something it gives everyone a break from trying to find a new build every single day.... I'd like to return to this game one day but hard to see in the unforeseeable future...
People have lives. A lot of the players I have enjoyed the game with are successful outside of the game. It's also $40 for a *massive* game. In Halo CE we got to explore a ship and 1 planet (ring). This lets us explore like 50 planets, and has already had a few massive content additions, nevermind the massive libarary of playable guns. All without crutching microtransactions to rob us endlessly.
It's summer. Like... Go outside and stop relying on patches for a videogame to make your summer better. Your hot take is just a whiney steaming hot pile of crap.
Palworld only had 15k players up till their update. Does that mean that's dying also? Hell no 🤣 HD2 is great but high end the issue is content and social being broken.
9:28
"I don't know who i am
Or where i am
All i know is that
I must kill 5"
Fix the current game BEFORE adding big new content. Players will come back if the game WORKS. I really enjoy this game but these crashes made me buy 2 other games within a month of HD2 😊
I'll be honest, I only very rarely see bugs with the game.
I can’t be the only person who has performance issues on pc. My fps tanks for absolutely no reason all the time. It’s like they’re asking you play on a 5k pc
Im convinced that AH didn’t create Helldivers 2 it was all sonys because AH can’t fix anything
uuh... then I didn't imagine the drop in performance since the last update.. it was real xD
but you can see the current active helldivers in game
6:18 but how many businesses days?
Spear wasn't unusable. You could work around its lock on issues. It is vastly superior now though.
no it was unusable lol you could stare dead on a target and it just wouldnt lock on lol no amount of changing angles would help it. it was fucked and the sole reason no one ran Spear prepatch lol
It is dead, and I'm lvl 131... my whole friend list doesn't play anymore, and i can't add newbies due to the friend list glitch....so... yeah. Pull the plug
I remember this concurrent versus unique player copium from days of New World.
Every time I log in it remaps my melee and quick throw keys. Every single time. It used to be worse, too, and involve like a dozen other keys. I have never been able to play the game without first remapping my goddamned keys.
Thats odd...
I love helldivers 2 but my game has been crashing once every 3 to 4 games no matter what settings I have it on and the FPS will always be perfectly fine and then it just crashes and it sucks because I want to play but it feels like I can't.
Also just wannah add that I normally play on impossible or suicide difficulty so not even the highest also my computer isnt top of the line but it is able to run Warhammer Darktide a game that is much more demanding to run on medium graphics at around 120 fps
All hail our lord and savior the great saint Easy
May he guide our lost souls and save us from eternal damnation using his infinite wisdom and great benevolence
Last patch was great and played fine but this one literally some bug has made it so horrific that it makes me turn it off. I had like 10 fps and took me all match to go across the map but I was hosting and didn’t want to mess it up for my squad. I literally couldn’t run from a bile titan lol Any other time it runs great but not this past week
I want more content! I can tolerate the technical issues because the game is so fun, but I’ve done everything there is so far.
So a game with 30-50k players is dead? What does that make Payday 3 for exemple cuz that pile of steaming s**t has 200 players 😂😂😂
03:34 Agreed, does look like you snapped your neck though 😅
Or were you standing on a tank? Maybe the front armour spikes on it.
At least you could play above 60 fps
I was never able to get over 50 on difficulty 9
How tf is weapons descriptions out of date a known issue? Can't they just fckin rewrite the description??? In the time to write that on discord, couldn't they have just done it?? Lol. I love the game and still play, but just hate the constant game breaking issues
They have the budget to put it on unreal engine 4/5, it's gonna be much easier with them then with old unsupported 2018 engine.
Pre-release the expectation was that HD2 would be bit bigger then HD1 that had under 7K concurrent players at its peak. With that expectation how much money would you spend to change game engine?
It’s cause we are all playing Elden ring and Final Fantasy 14 Online
If you say Helldivers 2 is the buggiest game youve ever played, then you have clearly never played ark survival evolved (or the new version ark survival ascended)
It's simple they need more assault rifles and they need to fix the bugs with the game. Also there needs to be a more attractive store for us to purchase things like skins and attachments for our guns. Also sometimes when I press the Reload or Sprint button doesn't work and I have to tap it repeatedly. They should also add a rover that carries supplies cause we can't carry two backpacks at once.
I dont like fixing ALL bugs, because many, especially on the Battlefield are just making the game funnier
Might affect the balance of the game. Limited carry capacity helps keep the game challenging which is why we play it
Feels like Sony doesn’t want the game to succeed after the debacle. Slowly smothering it to death.
What has Sony done or is doing to smother HD2?
why... kill 5 is a great meme now... 😔cmon
:)) I take a break after reaching lvl 140+ to play Elden Ring + Steam summer sale and the game is suddenly dying...
Your treachery has been noticed you are hereby ordered to report yourself to the nearest democracy officer immediately.
Palworld drops from 2 million to around 30k and nobody says a word.
Helldivers 2 drops from 450k to around 50k and it's the end times.
This asinine narrative from UA-camrs is what is going to kill Helldivers. You're putting potential new players off. Cut it out!
palworld isnt a live service game, and it was released a fully playable game, people payed for the experience, they finished the game and leave. Unlike "some game", the game don't get worst every single patch
to be fair, this game is an indie game
i just want no infinite loading screen & crash 😢
personal order target still don't fixed! Today was kill 15 for me😂 how lame tztz
The slowdown happens in team play games. Solo seems to perform much better.
I play mostly solo and have not had a game crashing bug in weeks. Also it seems that performance is much better on ps5 then pc.
I can't even play the game I tried playing this for 4 hours and whole time my game crashed or I'll be playing with a squad I just get kicked into the hobby and I won't get any of my rewards 🙂
50$ for a beta test game is insane