I took the adults at their word and followed the first half of the Toys R Us motto. Sure there were things I looked forward to, but the future and bills and responsibilities always seemed so daunting
@@Ponyman-1997 ya gotta be one sometimes tho, trust me, I'm learning that the hard way. Took "all work and no play makes jack/jill a dull person" a bit too seriously and got great at avoiding the stressful situations I need to face to live as an adult .
Ed Valentine's first episode was "Flight To The Finish", a CMC episode. This episode, a CMC episode, is the last episode he wrote. Talk about going full circle.
I thought the episode was pretty good, and you are correct DRWolf, this episode finally answered a question people in the fandom have been asking for years, the question being "Will we ever see the CMC's as adults" and lo and behold Hasbro decided to answer that question, this maybe the first time we see the CMC's as adults but it won't be last time, in fact i think younger audiences might find this episode to be somewhat relatable, i mean it is true being a kid can be tough especially when growing up, but being an adult isn't easy either, in fact in some cases being an adult is worse than being a kid, not that it's competition, but i'm sure you all understand what i'm saying.
I appreciate that aspect, it is not a fun or easy topic but an important one. She was born with a limitation and has to learn to live with it. Often kids shows will find some magic fix for a problem like that rather than teaching that in the real world you have to find a way to deal with it and succeed anyway.
The moment when Twilight and Fluttershy are guessing what happened, the adult CMC run up and confess, the understated reaction from the two older mares is PRICELESS...
She teleported herself into a hay bale instead of behind it, so still not very good at it, but at least we found out an error in teleportation isn't as bad as it could be
@@Zen17h yeah it could have been much worse if fanfiction has anything to say about it. There was this one story where Twilight describes the dangers of teleporting blind, something along the lines of teleporting through a wall, as in the wall appearing through your body. But anyway, even if the writers were familiar with these ideas I doubt they would have used them because little girls are so sensitive that even so much as a black eye would be traumatizing 🙄
@@miniman649 If I recall, Lauren Faust stated that in her original writings way back in 2009/10, the Mane 6 were supposed to be around 12 or 13 years old. But popular opinion has had it pretty much from the beginning that ponies mature/age faster than humans.
@@benberlin57 Lauren faust certainly didn't write them as 12 to 13 years old. If one write kids that behaves like adults, they are writing an adult, not a kid. Plus Faust is not the holy grail of lore considering she hasn't been writing for the show in years.
@@miniman649 woah hey there I know that Lauren Faust hasn't been a part of the show since the end of season two, I was merely stating something I remember reading in an article or interview with her. Your response seemed kind of heated and I just want to clarify my statement.
Ikr, i guess you could say the fact that her wings didn't grow along with the rest of her body, means that on some level Scootaloo's small wings are a physical deformity...but then again Bulk Biceps is a full grown pony with small wings as well.
I think Bulk Biceps is supposed be a reference to people on steroids... whereas the drug makes a man’s testicles small, in order to make their bodies have muscles.
That would be awful, but if half of what I have heard about Disney lately is true, Pony could soon be another Mouse product and I don't think they will be as interested in keeping the spirit of G4. Hopefully this does not come to pass, but only time will tell.
To be fair, MLP has made TONS of Disney references, including BATB, so this episode is no different. As for the episode itself, it was pretty good, even with the obvious message. It's great hearing the CMC's voice actresses using their natural voices for the adult CMC, which sort of fits with how the show has grown and is approaching its end. I really hope they'll all continue voice acting in other shows, or at least do something great with their lives after the show ends.
It was hard for me to tell but i think Sweetiebell was the only one who had more of a grown up voice. And also when that pet was rampaging you can see the girl from The Wisard Of Oz.
Now it could be that the writers didn't really intend on doing this, but I noticed that Scootaloo was never really bothered with the fact that she still couldn't fly as an adult, her wings are still tiny. This could be a way of showing that she's made peace with her disability and can still find ways to use her wings with her scooter. Of course, it is possible that she was just so excited for the fair and never really thought about it, but I do think that the former idea would be a nice subtle way of how somebody can still shine even with a physical disability.
When I was watching this episode, I couldn't help but think of the movie "Big" starring Tom Hanks. Both feature children who feel they'd have it easy as grownups and through magical means get to find out firsthand that being an adult isn't all it's cracked up to be.
You didn't bring up the fact that scootaloo in her adult form has stunted wings...this is as close to the show staff confirming that she will never ever fly as we can get without them outright saying it.
The wishing flower has so much potential to it you almost wish it had at least one more petal, then they could’ve used it to give Scootaloo The ability to fly.
Scootaloo (once she's REALLY grown-up) could still take up the sport of hang-gliding, I imagine. Next best thing to flying. Christopher Reeve took it up, to train for his big-screen Man of Steel debut in the "Superman" 1978 movie.
Hell, Rainbow Dash helped Apple Bloom try hang gliding way back in "Call of the Cutie". Plus Scootaloo could use the thrust from her own wings in conjunction with a hang glider. Or, as an adult, wear prosthetic wings over her foal-size wings.
Oh, and 1 more film reference, besides the "Beauty & the Beast" rose under glass: When the beastie jumped into tornado mode, there was a "Wizard of Oz" Dorothy pony (with Toto in a basket) caught up in the vortex!
It was a good episode, but I do think Last Crusade would have been the better last CMC episode. Still it was nice to see them all grow up and I did like the moral on how age doesn't equal wisdom. I also liked the other moral they put in where just because someone's an adult they don't always know what's best.
There where 3 movie reference in this episode! Two mention by you Dr. (Beauty & The Beast and Gismo)! The last one was when the little pet started becoming a tornado and in the group of ponies there was Dorothy Pony From Wizard of OZ with her little dog too! Now we really need a Tin Pony refence to complete the Wizard of OZ theme along with A.J. Scarecrow and Cowardly Lion in Nightmare Night's episode!
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who got a "Beauty and the Beast" vibe from that flower. Also, did anyone else notice the Dorothy pony at the Pet show/competition, complete with Toto?
I love this episode's moral. Growing up is hard to do when you don't give it enough time. We all develop and mature at our own paces, but the experiences we get in life are worth the wait.
8:39 that part of the song always makes me happy. Scootaloo technically just helped that clearly stressed out mother by cheering up the crying foal. Hard to really criticize them at that moment. And I never noticed the Mogwai connection there til now 😆 I did immediately get the "tale as old as time" vine when I first saw the flower too
I really really loved this episode! It was very enjoyable. The only criticism from me is that it seemed kind of like a step back in character development for the CMC compared to their recent episodes. But I am so happy to see them grown up, and it was an awesome song!
Personally, I think of it as a tentative epilogue. "The Last Crusade" serving as their grand finale and this one serving as probably the only time we´ll ever see them as grown ups. Also, after the somewhat tense last episode, I welcome this one´s lighter tone. Although, I admit "The Last Crusade" probably should have aired after this one.
I think it works better a year or two ago than it does as one of the last episodes, but maybe its order will make more sense with whatever happens in the final episodes. Of course, even if it doesn't, we can watch this one before "The Last Crusade" on season rewatches.b
I agree, I thought it seems more like a season 7 episode in terms of where the characters are at. I think everyone thought The Last Crusade was going to be *The Last* cmc episode. But either way I did still really like it.
It does seem like it is a step back from earlier episodes, yet the CMC are still foals. I really believe that this episode spoke more about their age than past lessons.
raiokai It’s not a step back because they’re still KIDS. They’ve learned a lot, but that doesn’t mean they still don’t have many ways to go compared to an adult. They were still perfectly in character here.
Hold on, is anybody going to mention that these same fillies went to the Crystal Empire BY THEMSELVES, ON A SCOOTER!!?? Oh but a train is sooooooo dangerous.
I felt the Beauty and the Beast quite strongly with the flower, and I feel like Sweetie Belle's adult design feels a little bit like Fleur's design. I can't quite put my finger on why, but I feel like it's something in the eyes.
Fun episode love the purple tazmainum devil,love the beauty and the beast reference but it is kinda sad that scoots still has weak small wings even grown up
This episode jumped a couple of sharks, and was hard to watch at points, but the lesson it teaches young kids about being a grown up is invaluable! And I do especially like the callback to Sounds of Silence, where AJ and Fluttershy met the old conductor! Seeing him here again was hilarious! XD
I thought the same thing about the flower inside the glass, Doc. And it's not just because Disney's Beauty and the Beast is my favorite Disney movie either (both the animated version AND the live action remake) but also because the writers of MLP have made lots of Beauty and the Beast references before. X3
Here's another thing I said in that leaked episode: "Honestly, with DHX playing it safe on certain things, this episode, while alright and effective as it is, feels like it could go in an older season (maybe season 3?). Yeah, not like the writers can go back and insert their story ideas into older seasons, but you'd think they'd take the chance in this final season to explore some more speculations and themes concerning the CMC growing up. From whether Scootaloo would be able to fly, to how things like time and distance would affect their relationship, to how they'd function individually. I wasn't really satisfied with how "The Last Crusade" (and now this) resolved things, but followup stories on the matters still seem viable for them, whether in the show or in fanfiction. And thinking back to past episodes (like "On Your Marks" and "Marks and Recreation"), and then on the epilogue, there's room for us to connect their themes with the current state of affairs surrounding our favorite trio."
Yes, I was so excited to see the CMC grown up! Yes, that enchanted flower made me think of Disney’s Beauty and the Beast (although, the setup leading up to it made me think of Big)! No, I didn’t think of Gremlins when I saw that odd-looking pet originally, but I haven’t seen Gremlins all that much. My biggest problem with the episode is this: This is a show that has continuity from one episode to the next, and at least one winter episode has come and gone each season, which means 9 years have passed in the MLP universe since we were first introduced to the CMC. Why HAVEN’T they grown up?!
It's not just them. There were ponies around their age like Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon and even younger than they are like Pipsqueak, Flurry Heart and the cake twins and they didn't age at all either.
The critter just constantly reminded me of Round Trip's stick ponies because of how un-expressive it was. It was hard to take the situation where it turned into a tornado seriously and I was just laughing the whole time.
Adult Sweetie Belle is TOO cute and beautiful for me to handle. I almost had diabeetus watching this episode! D: I loved the whole thing. The Wizard of Oz reference caught me off guard!
Wanted to see adult CMC for ages. Glad to see that wish come to fruition in such a funny context. Haven't seen any of the episode synopses and continue to go in blind every time which feels great. Feeling the G4 endgame again with this episode but the lesson and the way it is delivered is priceless. Fluttershy also stole the show with her exposition and taming the creature in question. Cudos to everyone who breathed life into these wonderful characters for all 9 seasons of MLPFiM /) P.S. Curious that the CMC didn't ask another adult like Bulk Biceps or anyone else in Ponyville but guess that would've made for a totally different story altogether.
Drwolf001 I already watch this episode two theories came to mind "01:why didn't the C.m.c's ask Pinkie pie to take them to the fair ?" & "02:maybe the C.m.c's just got GROWING PAINS"
Yes, I was also reminded of Beauty and the Beast when I saw the enchanted flower. I also thought that maybe there should've been a wish to regenerate the flower petals, then its entire loss could be delayed.
I'm surprised no one's noticed the Wizard of Oz reference during the magwi's rampage. But, I like it, seemed like a filler episode more than anything.5/10
Like the episode where Angel and fluttershy switched bodies I actually didn’t see it coming until it was “hinted” right before it happens. It’s a pretty nice story explaining the responsibilities that adults have to do. Even I have to deal with responsibilities of my own, sure I get to play Star Wars battlefront 2 if I have time. But work does come first, besides fun is usually the best thing to do last. Nevertheless I’m still looking forward to this vacation that me and my family’s been planning for months. Basically planning to go all over Florida from cocoa beach to Orlando And etc. i’ve been looking forward to this vacation for along time. I’m getting off topic though, if you ask me I was just repeatedly saying “oh no” after seeing the grown crusaders giving those teenagers the worst advice ever known. This is basic growing up too fast scenario, still it’s a nice episode. But really bums me out the episode is that scootaloo hasn’t gotten fully grown wings, I get it she really unique but must they make her late bloomer?... One of the things I was really looking forward to in the series is seeing her being capable of flying. Oh well you know what they say beggars can’t be choosers.
This one's probably going to be an underrated gem for me. As predictable and simple as it is, I found it more enjoyable than a lot of episodes from the second half of this season.
Brooke Rickettson Honestly, thought the magic flower was going to be a “monkey paw” deal, which it kind of turned into, as the CMC got what they wanted but it went wrong! Also, Wizard of Oz Pony!! Love the background pony references!!
No, when I saw the flower I thought its something similar to a magical true hearts desire flower from the fan fic memory pending and forgiveness pending.
It was great that the CMC were turn into adults. I don't know what reaction to that pony when they were turned back into foals. I was thinking that the CMC discover an older pony might need their help. I think the CMC are about to do something before the series end. We will have to wait to find out what it is.
Honestly This episode reminded me of Movies that follow this trope, the most famous example would most likely be Tom Hanks in "Big", I'm still wondering what it would have been like if they tried the Opposite Approach, like take an Old Character, like Granny Smith or Princess Celestia or Luna or even Starswirl, and have said character revert back in a Child, then see just how they would have handled such a story.
This was one of those episodes that's on the very high end of Okay, the type that's almost a good moral episode overall. For some reason this should have aired earlier before season 9. But hey, at least we finally see what the adult version of the CMC look like! :D
I don’t wanna grow up, but I’m capable of taking care of myself, and I’m home alone a lot. I make myself food, take care of my own hygiene and I take care of the dog for the most part when I’m not at school. Growing up really is hard to do tho. Still will always have that kid in me, forever.
Starting from here... I believe my predictions in the form of former idea for MLP Band come true. In the epilogue: all three CMCs all grow up in the end and it's now true. What didn't come true was that Apple Bloom didn't fall in love, but that's okay. So all in all, my prediction on the CMC was almost right on. In fact, I saw this episode coming miles away before it was released.
1a: I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that they never asked Pinkie. And you can't make the excuse for her VA not being there, because Andrea Libman also voices Fluttershy, who is in this episode. Even if Pinkie isn't the most mature of ponies, I think it would hurt Pinkie's feelings that she wasn't even a last resort choice. 1b: My theory behind the scenes as to why Pinkie wasn't asked was that the script originally did have them asking her, but it was cut for time. They probably even used the same reasoning for it, that Pinkie isn't the best choice for a responsible pony. 2: I'm glad I'm not the only one to have seen the Beauty and the Beast reference. I'm convinced that it's a reference, because the similarities are just too obvious to be coincidence. 3: I'd argue that play doesn't have to be earned per se. But, I do believe that play comes second to work. I suppose it depends on the situation though. In a workplace, you earn vacation time. But you don't specifically earn play. Once you're done with your work, you can play all you want. Earning vacation time is really just accumulating more time to play if you want to look at it like that. The thing is that even fi you take the "work is good, play is earned" quote as is, it's not taking into account that children have a different view of the world than adults do. That's why there's commonly a divide between a child's perspective and an adult's perspective. The lack of experience of the world is the reason why the world seems so much simpler to a child than it does to an adult. Sometimes, I wish the world was as simple as it is from the perspective of a child (that's in part because of my autistic point of view though). Even as an adult, I have trouble understanding how you're supposed to live as an adult. 4: I think the point of this episode is that it's moral is a message to both children and adults. The message to children is that the world is not as simply as you think, and that how you view adults is not as accurate as you may think. The message to adults is that children view the world in a much different way than adults, so when you try to explain something to them and they don't understand, adults tend to take for granted things that children don't understand, so patience is a virtue. 5: I agree that the CMCs were regressed a little for this episode. Though I believe it was unintentional. I have trouble believing that they didn't know that you have to get on specific trains to get to specific destinations (considering that Spike knows how trains work, and he's roughly the same age as them). But he grew up and learned with Twilight, and it's never been established that the CMCs know what to do on trains. The CMCs have matured over the years, and were even made tutors of Twilight's School of Friendship. But I think that people often forget that they are still children, and their views of the adult world was never addressed. The aging up process was also an issue, because the intent was for the CMCs to experience a day as adults, but still having the minds of children. In order to make this work, the writers had to focus on what makes the CMCs still children to make the difference more noticeable. This creates a cognitive whiplash.
Here's an observation I made. All of the season 9 episodes have cliche morals but dang do they have awesome stories. I'm thinking that the staff are just re-using morals so they can focus on making the last season the funnest one. Also- 3:15 Appleblooms face xD
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Anyone else feel the plot could of been avoided if say the cmc when looking for an adult to take them to the fair or more so when talking with Applejack oh I don't know.... Mentions breaburn? The relative that lives in appolossa? He could of been the shaperone for them
Honestly, I did want to see the Crusdaers as older ponies before the series ended, and their designs as older versions of themselves in this episode I liked very much, Dr. Wolf. However, there are other members of the Brony Reviewer and Analyst Community who don't share the same sentiments as you did with this episode, Dr. Wolf.
yeah i got the Beauty and the Beast joke in this ep. and i don't like being Old. i am one thousand 38 years old. but this was fun to watch and i like the reaction DrWolf. see you next Saturday for the next Ep and reaction
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This episode made me facepalm because I’m an adult and I know what’s going to happen in the episode, and I was waiting for the train wreck to happen and see a real adult call them out on it. Also there’s soo much more to bring an adult. Being responsible-They irresponsibly took the wrong train, got lost, and unwisely advised a couple of kids to “share” a pet, I believe that the one who is the most in the pets life knows best for them. Being caring-They definitely didn’t care about what happens next, they just focused on having fun 10:20
I noticed that the one who suggested putting the pet in the showcase happened to also be an adult. That may have just been a coincidence, but it looks like subtle writing. Kinda showed how adults don't always know what they're talking about either.
Yes, that was immediately what I thought of the enchanted flower. I think it's a little too obvious to not be a coincidence. The only ones who shouldn't get that reference are those who never saw the Disney movie Beauty and the Beast.
Yes, I also immediately thought of Beauty and the Beast when I saw the flower. And the episode was predictable, except for exactly what would happen with Bloofy (or maybe that too if you know anything about pre-G4?), but I don't mind that as much as you do. As for my thoughts on the episode: I think I would have liked this episode on its own, but I just could not get past where it is in the series when I watched it for the first time just now. I think this episode would have worked a lot better earlier. By this point, the CMCs a) have been pretty independent in a lot of other episodes and could have made it on their own, b) should have immediately known to tell Twilight about the flower doing weird wish magic, and c) should know that being big is *not* all it takes and more about where their limits were. They've even taken the train all by themselves earlier this season. My first thought before the credits even started was that they should be able to go by themselves. Normally I don't complain about characters regressing; as the show points out a couple times, sometimes you need to learn a lesson more than once. But in the case of the CMC this is just several seasons too late. It would have best as one of the first CMC episodes after they got their cutie marks, maybe their first one together after the Tender Taps one. By the time they started the Cutie Mark Day Camp it was already too late. It would be like having Dragonshy now, when Fluttershy has already faced a lot of scary monsters, and has been to the dragon lands multiple times. Sorry, too late for that story unless you frame it as a flashback or use different characters or something. (Other nitpick: Applebloom explicitly mentioned knowing everything they needed in her wish, and Sweetie Belle mentioned taking care of themselves; even if they weren't already mature enough for this usually, that wish should have made them so. Just remove that part, or change "then we'd know everything we'd need to get to the fair and back with no problem" to "then they'd let us go to the fair and back by ourselves" and get rid of that last bit of Sweetie Belle's, and it works a lot better)
Dr Wolf, Im not sure if you caught the cameo, but if you rewatch the episode, the scene where they just arrived at the fair, look at the pink pony in the mirror. That's Mane Event, the BronyCon mascot, made Canon.
So, Scootaloo is old enough to decide for herself to do death-defying stunt work with the Washouts, but not old enough to take a train without a chaperone? Either the show is wildly inconsistent about how young the CMC (and the young ponies in general) are or Equestrian public transportation is much more dangerous than I would have thought.
I want to see how badly the CMC got scolded after this by AJ, Dash, and Rarity. I mean they ventured out on their own, they got lost in a swamp, told false information to foals OLDER than them , and nearly destroyed appleloosa. And all this happened after they were strictly told NO, many times!
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kids, they want to grow up so fast and when they're older they wish they were kids again. it's the never ending cycle of life
I took the adults at their word and followed the first half of the Toys R Us motto. Sure there were things I looked forward to, but the future and bills and responsibilities always seemed so daunting
Tell me about it
You better believe it.
Some might call it.....the circle of life
[cues the end credits]
🎶 MY LITTLE PONY 🎶
@@imcintyre01 tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.dyMSz-H0i-S3lPmyVUxN9wHaLH&pid=Api
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is an option.
My thoughts exactly
No one can be an adult all the time
Walt Disney
@@Ponyman-1997 ya gotta be one sometimes tho, trust me, I'm learning that the hard way. Took "all work and no play makes jack/jill a dull person" a bit too seriously and got great at avoiding the stressful situations I need to face to live as an adult .
I say that every day
Poor Scootaloo, now is confirmed that she never will be able to fly
Ed Valentine's first episode was "Flight To The Finish", a CMC episode. This episode, a CMC episode, is the last episode he wrote. Talk about going full circle.
I thought the episode was pretty good, and you are correct DRWolf, this episode finally answered a question people in the fandom have been asking for years, the question being "Will we ever see the CMC's as adults" and lo and behold Hasbro decided to answer that question, this maybe the first time we see the CMC's as adults but it won't be last time, in fact i think younger audiences might find this episode to be somewhat relatable, i mean it is true being a kid can be tough especially when growing up, but being an adult isn't easy either, in fact in some cases being an adult is worse than being a kid, not that it's competition, but i'm sure you all understand what i'm saying.
Doc: I love to work.
Me: YA DON'T SAY?
Scootaloo still doesn't fly, but we still love her
I appreciate that aspect, it is not a fun or easy topic but an important one. She was born with a limitation and has to learn to live with it. Often kids shows will find some magic fix for a problem like that rather than teaching that in the real world you have to find a way to deal with it and succeed anyway.
HA! Nice one.
That's it! I'm designing prosthetic wings for her! We have robotic ornithopters; we can help that fillie fly!
@@tenofprime yea
@@juanmanuelpenaloza9264 good luck
The moment when Twilight and Fluttershy are guessing what happened, the adult CMC run up and confess, the understated reaction from the two older mares is PRICELESS...
I liked how sweetie belle teleported with somepony to safety
Although it looked momentarily like that gave her a bit of a headache but yes still a very good detail.
She teleported herself into a hay bale instead of behind it, so still not very good at it, but at least we found out an error in teleportation isn't as bad as it could be
@@Zen17h yeah it could have been much worse if fanfiction has anything to say about it. There was this one story where Twilight describes the dangers of teleporting blind, something along the lines of teleporting through a wall, as in the wall appearing through your body. But anyway, even if the writers were familiar with these ideas I doubt they would have used them because little girls are so sensitive that even so much as a black eye would be traumatizing 🙄
@@benberlin57 have you read the fic blink that story is dark af
@@j.p.jennings3929 no can't say that I have.
I like that this episode proved that Mane Six are in fact adults
It has been proven since season 1.
People who said otherwise are just in plain denial.
@@miniman649 If I recall, Lauren Faust stated that in her original writings way back in 2009/10, the Mane 6 were supposed to be around 12 or 13 years old. But popular opinion has had it pretty much from the beginning that ponies mature/age faster than humans.
@@benberlin57 Lauren faust certainly didn't write them as 12 to 13 years old. If one write kids that behaves like adults, they are writing an adult, not a kid.
Plus Faust is not the holy grail of lore considering she hasn't been writing for the show in years.
@@miniman649 woah hey there I know that Lauren Faust hasn't been a part of the show since the end of season two, I was merely stating something I remember reading in an article or interview with her. Your response seemed kind of heated and I just want to clarify my statement.
@@benberlin57 How many 12-13 YOs have jobs and are living independently? Either the writing or the statement were not particularly well thought out.
Yea that glass with the flower in it it's a beauty and the beast reference
i love the wings detail on grown Scootaloo, they are still small, she has a birth defect
Ikr, i guess you could say the fact that her wings didn't grow along with the rest of her body, means that on some level Scootaloo's small wings are a physical deformity...but then again Bulk Biceps is a full grown pony with small wings as well.
Or it’s part of the magic because they didn’t grow up naturally.
I think Bulk Biceps is supposed be a reference to people on steroids... whereas the drug makes a man’s testicles small, in order to make their bodies have muscles.
@@iloveowls90 i wanna say the answer, but that whould be a spoiler
"Beauty and the Beast". NO LAWSUITS, DISNEY!
dont worry
Disney Buy Fox so Hasbro could be next on there list to buy maybe or maybe not ? but who know what could happen.
That would be awful, but if half of what I have heard about Disney lately is true, Pony could soon be another Mouse product and I don't think they will be as interested in keeping the spirit of G4. Hopefully this does not come to pass, but only time will tell.
@@benberlin57 true
To be fair, MLP has made TONS of Disney references, including BATB, so this episode is no different.
As for the episode itself, it was pretty good, even with the obvious message. It's great hearing the CMC's voice actresses using their natural voices for the adult CMC, which sort of fits with how the show has grown and is approaching its end. I really hope they'll all continue voice acting in other shows, or at least do something great with their lives after the show ends.
I like the CMC'S as grown up and the flower was a nice reference from Beauty and The Beast.
It was hard for me to tell but i think Sweetiebell was the only one who had more of a grown up voice.
And also when that pet was rampaging you can see the girl from The Wisard Of Oz.
Yes, Claire Corlett’s voice sounded the most different from the others. It was a little odd the first time I heard it fully.
Now it could be that the writers didn't really intend on doing this, but I noticed that Scootaloo was never really bothered with the fact that she still couldn't fly as an adult, her wings are still tiny. This could be a way of showing that she's made peace with her disability and can still find ways to use her wings with her scooter.
Of course, it is possible that she was just so excited for the fair and never really thought about it, but I do think that the former idea would be a nice subtle way of how somebody can still shine even with a physical disability.
we all can relate to this. we as kids always think the same thing, but life isn't like that. lovely episode
When I was watching this episode, I couldn't help but think of the movie "Big" starring Tom Hanks. Both feature children who feel they'd have it easy as grownups and through magical means get to find out firsthand that being an adult isn't all it's cracked up to be.
So, everyone got the Beauty and the Beast reference, but did no one else see Dorothy and Toto getting pulled into the whirlwind?
You didn't bring up the fact that scootaloo in her adult form has stunted wings...this is as close to the show staff confirming that she will never ever fly as we can get without them outright saying it.
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The wishing flower has so much potential to it you almost wish it had at least one more petal, then they could’ve used it to give Scootaloo The ability to fly.
Scootaloo (once she's REALLY grown-up) could still take up the sport of hang-gliding, I imagine. Next best thing to flying. Christopher Reeve took it up, to train for his big-screen Man of Steel debut in the "Superman" 1978 movie.
Hell, Rainbow Dash helped Apple Bloom try hang gliding way back in "Call of the Cutie". Plus Scootaloo could use the thrust from her own wings in conjunction with a hang glider. Or, as an adult, wear prosthetic wings over her foal-size wings.
Oh, and 1 more film reference, besides the "Beauty & the Beast" rose under glass: When the beastie jumped into tornado mode, there was a "Wizard of Oz" Dorothy pony (with Toto in a basket) caught up in the vortex!
It was a good episode, but I do think Last Crusade would have been the better last CMC episode. Still it was nice to see them all grow up and I did like the moral on how age doesn't equal wisdom. I also liked the other moral they put in where just because someone's an adult they don't always know what's best.
There where 3 movie reference in this episode! Two mention by you Dr. (Beauty & The Beast and Gismo)! The last one was when the little pet started becoming a tornado and in the group of ponies there was Dorothy Pony From Wizard of OZ with her little dog too! Now we really need a Tin Pony refence to complete the Wizard of OZ theme along with A.J. Scarecrow and Cowardly Lion in Nightmare Night's episode!
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who got a "Beauty and the Beast" vibe from that flower. Also, did anyone else notice the Dorothy pony at the Pet show/competition, complete with Toto?
I love this episode's moral. Growing up is hard to do when you don't give it enough time. We all develop and mature at our own paces, but the experiences we get in life are worth the wait.
8:39 that part of the song always makes me happy. Scootaloo technically just helped that clearly stressed out mother by cheering up the crying foal.
Hard to really criticize them at that moment.
And I never noticed the Mogwai connection there til now 😆
I did immediately get the "tale as old as time" vine when I first saw the flower too
I really really loved this episode! It was very enjoyable. The only criticism from me is that it seemed kind of like a step back in character development for the CMC compared to their recent episodes. But I am so happy to see them grown up, and it was an awesome song!
Personally, I think of it as a tentative epilogue. "The Last Crusade" serving as their grand finale and this one serving as probably the only time we´ll ever see them as grown ups. Also, after the somewhat tense last episode, I welcome this one´s lighter tone.
Although, I admit "The Last Crusade" probably should have aired after this one.
I think it works better a year or two ago than it does as one of the last episodes, but maybe its order will make more sense with whatever happens in the final episodes. Of course, even if it doesn't, we can watch this one before "The Last Crusade" on season rewatches.b
I agree, I thought it seems more like a season 7 episode in terms of where the characters are at. I think everyone thought The Last Crusade was going to be *The Last* cmc episode. But either way I did still really like it.
It does seem like it is a step back from earlier episodes, yet the CMC are still foals. I really believe that this episode spoke more about their age than past lessons.
raiokai It’s not a step back because they’re still KIDS. They’ve learned a lot, but that doesn’t mean they still don’t have many ways to go compared to an adult. They were still perfectly in character here.
Can we talk about how Sweetie Belle can teleport real quick?
Hold on, is anybody going to mention that these same fillies went to the Crystal Empire BY THEMSELVES, ON A SCOOTER!!?? Oh but a train is sooooooo dangerous.
Rainbow dash was with them
Final 4 episodes wow. This was an alright one.
I felt the Beauty and the Beast quite strongly with the flower, and I feel like Sweetie Belle's adult design feels a little bit like Fleur's design.
I can't quite put my finger on why, but I feel like it's something in the eyes.
Fun episode love the purple tazmainum devil,love the beauty and the beast reference but it is kinda sad that scoots still has weak small wings even grown up
It's like a kid with a new toy. They KNOW they should share but they are too excited to care. :P
This episode jumped a couple of sharks, and was hard to watch at points, but the lesson it teaches young kids about being a grown up is invaluable!
And I do especially like the callback to Sounds of Silence, where AJ and Fluttershy met the old conductor! Seeing him here again was hilarious! XD
Who wouldn't think of a tale as old as time while looking at that.
I thought the same thing about the flower inside the glass, Doc. And it's not just because Disney's Beauty and the Beast is my favorite Disney movie either (both the animated version AND the live action remake) but also because the writers of MLP have made lots of Beauty and the Beast references before. X3
What other wishes do you guys think have been made with that magic flower?
Here's another thing I said in that leaked episode:
"Honestly, with DHX playing it safe on certain things, this episode, while alright and effective as it is, feels like it could go in an older season (maybe season 3?). Yeah, not like the writers can go back and insert their story ideas into older seasons, but you'd think they'd take the chance in this final season to explore some more speculations and themes concerning the CMC growing up. From whether Scootaloo would be able to fly, to how things like time and distance would affect their relationship, to how they'd function individually. I wasn't really satisfied with how "The Last Crusade" (and now this) resolved things, but followup stories on the matters still seem viable for them, whether in the show or in fanfiction. And thinking back to past episodes (like "On Your Marks" and "Marks and Recreation"), and then on the epilogue, there's room for us to connect their themes with the current state of affairs surrounding our favorite trio."
Yes, I was so excited to see the CMC grown up!
Yes, that enchanted flower made me think of Disney’s Beauty and the Beast (although, the setup leading up to it made me think of Big)!
No, I didn’t think of Gremlins when I saw that odd-looking pet originally, but I haven’t seen Gremlins all that much.
My biggest problem with the episode is this:
This is a show that has continuity from one episode to the next, and at least one winter episode has come and gone each season, which means 9 years have passed in the MLP universe since we were first introduced to the CMC.
Why HAVEN’T they grown up?!
It's not just them. There were ponies around their age like Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon and even younger than they are like Pipsqueak, Flurry Heart and the cake twins and they didn't age at all either.
The critter just constantly reminded me of Round Trip's stick ponies because of how un-expressive it was. It was hard to take the situation where it turned into a tornado seriously and I was just laughing the whole time.
Adult Sweetie Belle is TOO cute and beautiful for me to handle. I almost had diabeetus watching this episode! D: I loved the whole thing. The Wizard of Oz reference caught me off guard!
2:22 Doc same. As soon as you said it, I couldn't stop thinking that
4:30 I'm just noticing how small Sweetie Belle's horn still is; although I DID notice how tiny Scootaloo's wings still are.
Wanted to see adult CMC for ages. Glad to see that wish come to fruition in such a funny context. Haven't seen any of the episode synopses and continue to go in blind every time which feels great.
Feeling the G4 endgame again with this episode but the lesson and the way it is delivered is priceless. Fluttershy also stole the show with her exposition and taming the creature in question. Cudos to everyone who breathed life into these wonderful characters for all 9 seasons of MLPFiM /)
P.S. Curious that the CMC didn't ask another adult like Bulk Biceps or anyone else in Ponyville but guess that would've made for a totally different story altogether.
Despite the predictability & hit/misses for CMC episodes, the best part of the episode was seeing the CMC grown up :D
Drwolf001 I already watch this episode two theories came to mind "01:why didn't the C.m.c's ask Pinkie pie to take them to the fair ?" & "02:maybe the C.m.c's just got GROWING PAINS"
I doubt Pinkie counts as a responsible guardian
@@fashionablechangeling2003 that seems to be a fairly common sentiment XD but who's to say for sure.
Yes, I was also reminded of Beauty and the Beast when I saw the enchanted flower. I also thought that maybe there should've been a wish to regenerate the flower petals, then its entire loss could be delayed.
I'm surprised no one's noticed the Wizard of Oz reference during the magwi's rampage. But, I like it, seemed like a filler episode more than anything.5/10
I saw something out of the corner of my eye, i might have to go back and rewatch.
Big Mac, I've been there "sicker than Wynonna", with suffering while family missing the abject torment when the body is ravaged by disease.😷😵
Like the episode where Angel and fluttershy switched bodies I actually didn’t see it coming until it was “hinted” right before it happens. It’s a pretty nice story explaining the responsibilities that adults have to do. Even I have to deal with responsibilities of my own, sure I get to play Star Wars battlefront 2 if I have time. But work does come first, besides fun is usually the best thing to do last. Nevertheless I’m still looking forward to this vacation that me and my family’s been planning for months. Basically planning to go all over Florida from cocoa beach to Orlando And etc. i’ve been looking forward to this vacation for along time.
I’m getting off topic though, if you ask me I was just repeatedly saying “oh no” after seeing the grown crusaders giving those teenagers the worst advice ever known. This is basic growing up too fast scenario, still it’s a nice episode. But really bums me out the episode is that scootaloo hasn’t gotten fully grown wings, I get it she really unique but must they make her late bloomer?... One of the things I was really looking forward to in the series is seeing her being capable of flying. Oh well you know what they say beggars can’t be choosers.
Well, unfortunately we discover in this episode that Scootaloo will never fly.
This one's probably going to be an underrated gem for me. As predictable and simple as it is, I found it more enjoyable than a lot of episodes from the second half of this season.
"Play must be earned" says the one who ,in the tf2 series, made key frame and lightning bliss take a vacation as punishment.😏
I deeply respect Dr. Wolf but I ascribe to the ideas of everything in moderation and all work and no play makes jack a dull boy.
I loved this episode. And I am so happy that I'm not the only one who thought of bell and the beast when it came to the flower.
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Honestly, thought the magic flower was going to be a “monkey paw” deal, which it kind of turned into, as the CMC got what they wanted but it went wrong! Also, Wizard of Oz Pony!! Love the background pony references!!
No, when I saw the flower I thought its something similar to a magical true hearts desire flower from the fan fic memory pending and forgiveness pending.
Me: *puts her school work away* okay ill take you cmc to the fair! Plus i can do this anywhere with a computer
Yes sir, Dr. Wolf. Angela Lansbury did pop into my head when I first saw the flower 🤣
Did anyone know that Scootaloo did not grow her wings when she gets older.
I felt like that episode was fan service XD
It was great that the CMC were turn into adults. I don't know what reaction to that pony when they were turned back into foals. I was thinking that the CMC discover an older pony might need their help. I think the CMC are about to do something before the series end. We will have to wait to find out what it is.
Honestly This episode reminded me of Movies that follow this trope, the most famous example would most likely be Tom Hanks in "Big", I'm still wondering what it would have been like if they tried the Opposite Approach, like take an Old Character, like Granny Smith or Princess Celestia or Luna or even Starswirl, and have said character revert back in a Child, then see just how they would have handled such a story.
This was one of those episodes that's on the very high end of Okay, the type that's almost a good moral episode overall. For some reason this should have aired earlier before season 9. But hey, at least we finally see what the adult version of the CMC look like! :D
Big meets Beauty and the Beast
The, Big, The Beauty, and the Beast
I don’t wanna grow up, but I’m capable of taking care of myself, and I’m home alone a lot. I make myself food, take care of my own hygiene and I take care of the dog for the most part when I’m not at school. Growing up really is hard to do tho. Still will always have that kid in me, forever.
Starting from here... I believe my predictions in the form of former idea for MLP Band come true. In the epilogue: all three CMCs all grow up in the end and it's now true. What didn't come true was that Apple Bloom didn't fall in love, but that's okay. So all in all, my prediction on the CMC was almost right on. In fact, I saw this episode coming miles away before it was released.
1a: I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that they never asked Pinkie. And you can't make the excuse for her VA not being there, because Andrea Libman also voices Fluttershy, who is in this episode. Even if Pinkie isn't the most mature of ponies, I think it would hurt Pinkie's feelings that she wasn't even a last resort choice.
1b: My theory behind the scenes as to why Pinkie wasn't asked was that the script originally did have them asking her, but it was cut for time. They probably even used the same reasoning for it, that Pinkie isn't the best choice for a responsible pony.
2: I'm glad I'm not the only one to have seen the Beauty and the Beast reference. I'm convinced that it's a reference, because the similarities are just too obvious to be coincidence.
3: I'd argue that play doesn't have to be earned per se. But, I do believe that play comes second to work. I suppose it depends on the situation though. In a workplace, you earn vacation time. But you don't specifically earn play. Once you're done with your work, you can play all you want. Earning vacation time is really just accumulating more time to play if you want to look at it like that. The thing is that even fi you take the "work is good, play is earned" quote as is, it's not taking into account that children have a different view of the world than adults do. That's why there's commonly a divide between a child's perspective and an adult's perspective. The lack of experience of the world is the reason why the world seems so much simpler to a child than it does to an adult. Sometimes, I wish the world was as simple as it is from the perspective of a child (that's in part because of my autistic point of view though). Even as an adult, I have trouble understanding how you're supposed to live as an adult.
4: I think the point of this episode is that it's moral is a message to both children and adults. The message to children is that the world is not as simply as you think, and that how you view adults is not as accurate as you may think. The message to adults is that children view the world in a much different way than adults, so when you try to explain something to them and they don't understand, adults tend to take for granted things that children don't understand, so patience is a virtue.
5: I agree that the CMCs were regressed a little for this episode. Though I believe it was unintentional. I have trouble believing that they didn't know that you have to get on specific trains to get to specific destinations (considering that Spike knows how trains work, and he's roughly the same age as them). But he grew up and learned with Twilight, and it's never been established that the CMCs know what to do on trains. The CMCs have matured over the years, and were even made tutors of Twilight's School of Friendship. But I think that people often forget that they are still children, and their views of the adult world was never addressed. The aging up process was also an issue, because the intent was for the CMCs to experience a day as adults, but still having the minds of children. In order to make this work, the writers had to focus on what makes the CMCs still children to make the difference more noticeable. This creates a cognitive whiplash.
Here's an observation I made. All of the season 9 episodes have cliche morals but dang do they have awesome stories. I'm thinking that the staff are just re-using morals so they can focus on making the last season the funnest one. Also- 3:15 Appleblooms face xD
Growing up it´s more about the experience. You don't become and adult, you fall into being one.
I am so glad I am not the only person who noticed that lyric.
Just a short news flash Dr. Wolf, but you are going to LOVE (and cry) next week episode ;)
And no it's not about fluttershy.
Also, that tornado gremlin thing, kinda reminds of the Shrewster, from the Godzilla animated series that aired from 1998-1999.
It was a ponyriffic episode and the next one will have a lot of heart ♥️ and a touching plot
I loved it when Sweetie Belle used to squeak, it made her seem much more cuter.
The CMC were cute as adults. Yes, when i saw that flower it comes to my mind the "Beauty and the Beast" reference.
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another decent season 2 episode
nuff said
I ENJOYED IT SO MUCH!
A great final lesson from thaoe sweet fillies, that song though! And I love their adult looks! Sweetiebelle the mostiest!!!
Anyone else feel the plot could of been avoided if say the cmc when looking for an adult to take them to the fair or more so when talking with Applejack oh I don't know.... Mentions breaburn? The relative that lives in appolossa? He could of been the shaperone for them
Honestly, I did want to see the Crusdaers as older ponies before the series ended, and their designs as older versions of themselves in this episode I liked very much, Dr. Wolf. However, there are other members of the Brony Reviewer and Analyst Community who don't share the same sentiments as you did with this episode, Dr. Wolf.
Anybody else see the conductor from Sounds of Silence?
Yeah, that was quite a highlight ^^
Dr. Wolf just wait until episode 26😏... You will find something older😉...
yeah i got the Beauty and the Beast joke in this ep.
and i don't like being Old.
i am one thousand 38 years old.
but this was fun to watch and i like the reaction DrWolf.
see you next Saturday for the next Ep and reaction
2:22 yeah that magical flower does remind me of Beauty and the Beast for all the Disney fans out there
honestly this ep should have been about the cmc interacting with the mane 6 as adults. like going on an adventure with them or something.
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This episode made me facepalm because I’m an adult and I know what’s going to happen in the episode, and I was waiting for the train wreck to happen and see a real adult call them out on it. Also there’s soo much more to bring an adult.
Being responsible-They irresponsibly took the wrong train, got lost, and unwisely advised a couple of kids to “share” a pet, I believe that the one who is the most in the pets life knows best for them.
Being caring-They definitely didn’t care about what happens next, they just focused on having fun
10:20
This episode didn't necessarily *need* to exist.
But... it was fine for what it was.
I noticed that the one who suggested putting the pet in the showcase happened to also be an adult. That may have just been a coincidence, but it looks like subtle writing. Kinda showed how adults don't always know what they're talking about either.
First thought is how old the actresses are now.
Two are twenty, Maddie is 23 I think.
It is amazing that they have been in a project for roughly half their current lives since the show started.
Yes, that was immediately what I thought of the enchanted flower. I think it's a little too obvious to not be a coincidence. The only ones who shouldn't get that reference are those who never saw the Disney movie Beauty and the Beast.
Yes, I also immediately thought of Beauty and the Beast when I saw the flower. And the episode was predictable, except for exactly what would happen with Bloofy (or maybe that too if you know anything about pre-G4?), but I don't mind that as much as you do.
As for my thoughts on the episode:
I think I would have liked this episode on its own, but I just could not get past where it is in the series when I watched it for the first time just now. I think this episode would have worked a lot better earlier. By this point, the CMCs a) have been pretty independent in a lot of other episodes and could have made it on their own, b) should have immediately known to tell Twilight about the flower doing weird wish magic, and c) should know that being big is *not* all it takes and more about where their limits were. They've even taken the train all by themselves earlier this season. My first thought before the credits even started was that they should be able to go by themselves.
Normally I don't complain about characters regressing; as the show points out a couple times, sometimes you need to learn a lesson more than once. But in the case of the CMC this is just several seasons too late. It would have best as one of the first CMC episodes after they got their cutie marks, maybe their first one together after the Tender Taps one. By the time they started the Cutie Mark Day Camp it was already too late. It would be like having Dragonshy now, when Fluttershy has already faced a lot of scary monsters, and has been to the dragon lands multiple times. Sorry, too late for that story unless you frame it as a flashback or use different characters or something.
(Other nitpick: Applebloom explicitly mentioned knowing everything they needed in her wish, and Sweetie Belle mentioned taking care of themselves; even if they weren't already mature enough for this usually, that wish should have made them so. Just remove that part, or change "then we'd know everything we'd need to get to the fair and back with no problem" to "then they'd let us go to the fair and back by ourselves" and get rid of that last bit of Sweetie Belle's, and it works a lot better)
Dr Wolf, Im not sure if you caught the cameo, but if you rewatch the episode, the scene where they just arrived at the fair, look at the pink pony in the mirror. That's Mane Event, the BronyCon mascot, made Canon.
So, Scootaloo is old enough to decide for herself to do death-defying stunt work with the Washouts, but not old enough to take a train without a chaperone? Either the show is wildly inconsistent about how young the CMC (and the young ponies in general) are or Equestrian public transportation is much more dangerous than I would have thought.
Yeah sadly consistancy has always been an issue with this show. I enjoy it anyways.
I want to see how badly the CMC got scolded after this by AJ, Dash, and Rarity. I mean they ventured out on their own, they got lost in a swamp, told false information to foals OLDER than them , and nearly destroyed appleloosa. And all this happened after they were strictly told NO, many times!
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