Super Long track Rc Snowmobile - Is longer really better?
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- I later calculated the equivalent length of the skid, and I end up with a theoretical 245'' equivalent skid. Pretty impressive!
You might think that it is lacking power, but it is really not. It has a big power combo from castle and with a similar ''normal'' track it can pull wheelies all day long. With the increased load and weight, it was only a matter of time before the gears had enough, and its actually the Traxxas spur gear that failed at 4:37, not my gearbox. (Yay!)
Ps, Decagon part 2 was not ready for this weeks video, It'll come up in (hopefully) a week or less from now, same goes for the rc sled collection sale video.
Leave suggestions on things to test, I do still read every comments!
Pascal
Ive been following you for a few years now. I love that you're testing new configurations all the time. What works for a full size snowmobile (dimensions, skis, track dimensions, center of mass, etc) may not work as well when it is scaled down. It is so much work to research this stuff and it is soooo cool you are doing it. With RC cars being as ridiculous as they are today it makes me wonder why Traxxas or one of the other big brands haven't figured out RC snowmobiles. Have you thought about increasing rotational mass for stability like RC motorcycles? (gyro effect) On full scale machines the rider provides a lot of stability by leaning which is tough to replicate on an RC. I think with you're determination, testing, and constant refinements, you will truly have an awesome RC Snowmobile that is incredibly fun to drive. Keep it up!
I do appreciate the feedback! I like to do these kind research personally too.
The track is between 8 to 10% of the weight of the machine. It actually has a lot in of inertia, especially and the speed at which they are spinning. If you have a nice ramp to launch it, and drive it properly, you can almost do a tailwhip. I'll do my best to insert a clip in a futur compilation!
Thank you for being a pioneer for rc snowmobiles. I believe there will be a point in the future where we see your designs (or copies) in the mainstream rc game. Keep it up brother, God bless.
You should try to make a snowmobile with a controllable weight on top that shifts from side to side, simulating the weight of a driver!
He had and it didn’t work
@@codyriecken1474 I just saw that, but wouldn't it work better to have one stick on the controller steer the skis and one stick to control the weight, instead of just one stick that controls both the skis and the weight, that makes counter steering not possible.
@@williamekberg2287 that was what I thought. One stick is dumb
@@Dustin34 yeah, kind of defeats the purpose
This is a good idea, would be sick to have a wheel radio with a thumbstick for your left thumb that would move a driver around. I think the sled would have to be bigger though to fit a doll that advanced on it and keep the weight ratios between the two right.
Maybe you should try a track that have longer betvine the lugs, and specily lugs for deep powder snow. Like a modern deep powder snowmobile
yes needs more space in between the paddles to allow snow to get between them and create more push on the snow.
This is by far one of my favourite videos, I’ve always been curious what a longer track would be like on a real snowmobile and I guess this can shine some light on this, another awesome video Pascal, keep them coming
in real a long track makes all the difference
Should try adding little bit of weight to rear skid, wider skis, and paddles on track.
Looks sick👍
Where the normal track ends and the extension begins, you should try kicking it up 5 degrees and see how much that affects it.
Thank you for the Awesome video!
It would most likely help get out of the snow easier but you would still have no control other than in a straight line. The track would still not dig and get to the stiffer stuff down there, So I still believe a regular 165 or 154 is a better option in a deep snow senario.
I like the suggestion tho👍
Wow I didn’t realize how big these snowmobiles are!!! You are amazing
Pretty kewl, I was surfing sled vids and stumbled upon rc sleds 😁
That is one crazy sled if it was scaled to be driven by us 😁
Thumbs up good vid!
Merci Pascale d'avoir partagé ton projet avec nous. Tu a inspirer mon projet Snow Strider, une motoneige qui va mesurer environ 25 pouce de long. Le plus dure c'est le capot mais Fusion 360 vas réglée le problem. Lâcher pas la patate tu fais du bon travail.
That was awesome man and that thing plows through snow, I think side by side it would win in that snow
Maybe try removing some lugs to create bigger gaps that will make removing the snow easier? Mtn sleds normally have huge gaps between paddles for that very purpose. Great video! 👍🏼
SWT next?
lol! I had no idea there were RC snowmobiles. Very cool
i think that if some thing was like that in real life it would be like the Polaris RMK 174" with an track extension and that would be absolutely crazy
Your analysis on the track with how the snow and the luxe grip sounds fairly accurate unbelievable, but if you are going to give scaling perspective keep in mind that the fluff you're driving that snowmobile in to scale would be probably be like 4 feet of champagne powder to real snowmobile. Cool vid
You are absolutely correct. In harder snow conditions, the result could have likely being different.
It certainly has plenty of power. What about going wider with the track and/or skis?
Great vid ... thanks.
I need one of these sweet Sleds... we just got 12 inches of fresh snow in central Iowa !!
damn unfortunate i wanted that snow haha hi from southern minnesota
Super cool stuff subbed
Will we ever get a chance at buying the 1/5 files. You are doing some amazing stuff man i love your videos and innovation.
Should let Ross Robinson give it a spin.... he will tell ya what it needs next!!! Nice work, love your videos
I need something like this to get me through the winter months
Probably carves better cuz more skid deeper in snow holding it up. Sleds are awsome keep up the great work.👍
The problem is when you increased the length of the track, the weight of the machine is spread out across a bigger suface area which is making the snowmobile “float” on the top of the snow.
The easiest thing to do would be to increase the depth of the lugs,
Just for the hell of it, I would find out the weight of a mountain sled and divide that across the surface area of the full size track. I would also compare the lug depth compared to the length of the track.
Do the math and you can figure out the PSI And compare it against your RC to see if you’re even in the neighborhood
You are correct, and understand about 90% of it. There's also a difference in how the snow itself is at that scale. The snow particules does not scale up and down with the scale of the machine. So you are never going to have a perfect apple to apple comparison. The only exception is when the snow is crusty or straight up ice, but that ain't as fun :)
so there's a probability you'll see this comment but i've been thinking about getting a rc sled and making a rider that works as a counter balance so it could make driving a little more fun! also this comment was made drunk at 10 at night :))
so a little bit of description I want to make the rider weighted with a couple of servos that control the placement of the rider so you can carve and ride around a little easier!
You are not the only person that came up with the idea. The problem is that even if you did it, you cant react fast enough at that scale to control it prefectly. Sure practice helps, but look at a real rider go. He's not only going side to side, he's back on the boards, walking the sled, foot down, all that makes it difficult to replicate, and even harder to control quickly and precisely.
The idea is good and ill likely look back into it some day, but the challenge is immense
@@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations agreed at that scale it'll be hard and I plan on 3d printing some parts and looking deeper into it!
Also love the channel!!!
A full scale snowmobile would compact the snow for more traction .. You have no rider weight input .. I think a wider ski stance would help to make up for no rider..
Man this is awesome,we were talking about this at work the other day and now u upload a video! Wicked buddy shes a brute!
Very cool mod. Now you should find a little action figure to mount on it.
wow that is so neat there
thanks for your help with me all brothers and subscribers 🙏🙏🙏👍
I think you should make the track a lil bit longer.
Keep up the great work. I love to come here and watch your machines. Have you ever thought pitching your design to a hobby company. Also I’d get a patent for as much as you can so you could receive royalties.
Maybe paint the sled anything but white so it shows up on the cam. also needs LONGER lugs like a Mountain sled, the track is too long for the rest of the scale of the sled. that causes it to roll more from what i am seeing.
I think for the deep powder you have to scale the entire SLED UP not just the track because sometimes when we scale things down, they dont react the same as in a 1:1 rig. looking fwd to seeing more from you,
We're supposed to be getting up to 12 inches of snow tomorrow. I need to take the thundercat out.
Me to buddy
Air flow along the top of the track is important too ..otherwise snow gets jammed as its forced thru and wastes power
You should attempt 3D printing a classic sled, like a 93 Indy or something like that
An enticer
Nobody wants to 3d print a shitty sled that u own
Probably need todo another video with this long track. and take it out on the water and see if it does good?
Can’t get enough track speed it seems.
Love your videos!
I wish I had one of those Rc snowmobile
Wonder if more weight in the track would help? Maybe put tire weights on the skid to help it?
U shld add alot wider stance for the front skies! Thatd be awesome and possibly perform better?
That moment when you see someone do something that you always wanted to do
(Regarding the rc snowmobile)
How about you can make the biggest rc snowmobile in the world
Edit: how about a fat track
My damn printer isn’t big enough for the damn skid! Time to upgrade my printer! HAH
Power to weight ratio vs. track surface area.
Perhaps try to get some of the weight closer to the rear, might be good t try to get the battery pack somewhere mounted up inside the skid.
Good job pascal 👍
Weight over the track will do wonders
I think the RC snowmobile It's just too light Versus a real snowmobile it would be compacting the snow down
That's honestly the problem with any rc vehicle you right
I need to make the back longer with the track
Nice video man it is a very nice rc snowmobile. But you kinda have a dutch accent are from the netherlands by any chanes or not.
It would be funny if you modified the new brp side by side écouter car
I feel the same about the comment a couple under mine that you need weight and longer lugs like a simulated 3 inch lug ?
So I wonder what would happen with huge lugs instead of a long track
You should try making a 1/4 scale sled with a gas powerd engine like the 1/4 scale cars have. THe "chainsaw/weadeater" 2stroke engines. That way you get the sweat 2stroke smell real sled makes in real life.
Add the simulated rider weight, would that help just saying
Can you made a lynx glx59000
Check my ig 'sledmaker' , got a GL3900 under work. 5900 isn't that hard to mod once the front and frame are done.
I need to ride this..only true weighted scenario that is legit
How did you make this dude that thing is insane
I been looking for one but all are not good except yours 😂
What about a taller, or more paddle style lug on the printed track. Your other models tear threw and wheelie. Is that because the track is shorter ?
Because of the increased skid lenght, it's almost impossible to pull a wheelie from such a long point. A longer paddle would still not make it wheelie more. The pivot point is simply too far back
Widen the front skies
He could’ve made the skidoo a darker colour for us to see better lol
Printing this in white was an odd choice..... lol , cool though.
When can we buy them
Having bigger lugs would help a lot....
How frikin cool
So you mean I just spend $15k on a useless sled when I could have just bought an RC sled for $250?
Why not spend $15k on a RC sled?🤔
So you basically made a chainsaw with skis finally
Thats basically it yeah😄
Hi I would like to buy a Rc snowmobile, Can I get tips on which I should have?. I want it to be able to step up and a lot of power. And I then buy cases of course from you
Bro if u make a noise mod with turbski noises on omg that would be fukin amazing dude and thats BADASS!!!!
We’re can I get a rc snowmobile like a good one
Where can I buy arc sled that goes that fast
So do you sell the entire snowmobile or just the kits?
How can I purchase one of these Rc snowmobiles? Do you sell them?
are you planning on selling those sleds
Can there be a place where you can buy the snowmobile
Hey I was just wondering if I am aloud to bring my alpha 6 to school for a project
Yes, of course
Where’re do you get this snowmobile at
To long of a track it’s making the nose sink into the snow.. gonna have to put a faster kv motor in it to make it somewhat work. Or put weight on the back.
I agree. the long track provides greater flotation to back half of the sled, where it is already lighter than the front half, causing the front of the sled to sink or nose dive. The only thing to counter balance the weight difference is track speed. But increasing the spin of the track also has a downside ... it contributes to trenching. You need all of these things working together to create forward momentum. You have to find a balance between track flotation, weight distribution and power.
This is interesting
did you make this
Where you by this snowmobil
Need longer lugs and a bit more weight to the whole machine
The turning would be hard
Where i can buy good rc snowmobile
Trop COOL
Nice i relly whant that
I want one so bad
have you done the actual long track mod? i printed the long track rails for my build wanted opinions
I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. I have made the test in the videos for a long track on a mini sled, But I have not tested something like that on a real machine.
@@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations like in the skeeride mod folder the king track mod that i think is a little shorter then that
I dont know, this is not a skeeride
@@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations wait it’s not?
Can i buy the decagon
I think your next step is to make a rider!
Isnt it wider better?
How much would it be for u to make me one?
You should get a little dude to put on it it would look cooler
What size motor do you use? brushed or brushless?
This specific one was a brushless 4274, but normally a 540 or 550 class works great and are a bit lighter
@@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations Thanks!
where do you buy carpet
From where is that track from? How can i get one.
It looks to be 3D printed
how much for one