$2000 Optic Quality For $500??? Arken SH4 Gen II
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
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In this video, we take a look at a new entry into the budget optic world, the Arken SH4 Gen II 6-24x50mm. This optic represents a fantastic value with high-end features such as FFP, a repeatable zero stop, illuminated grid reticle, 34mm tube, and accessories all for under $500 and the performance to boot.
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I’ve loved these things! They’ve been like a kept secret up until recently.
I saw your video featuring this scoperight after you posted it and bought the scope on mostly your recommendation. Now I need to get a long dustance rifle to put it on. Right now it's on a Ruger 22 pistol just for the lols.
I actually was lucky enough to buy the 4X14 Gen 1 (from you). I had already purchased the Gen 2(using you affiliated link) thanks man. Keep up the good work.
I spoke to a rep from one of the big optics manufacturer. He said, that the $3000 optics cost them about $400 to make. Talk about making some gross profits.
Depends.. Some have different mechanisms on the inside that facilitate how they moving action works, with different arms ect.. and have very precise parts that are not easy to make every time. So there is always a throwaway percentage that doesn't pass QC--- because something is out of spec. So normally the most expensive optics are just the cherry pick of the liter that are actually correctly calibrated. So yeah, maybe it only took $400 on it's face--- but maybe they had to make 5k of them and only get to pick 100 good one's out of all of those. And sell the others as a lesser spec'ed option. This exact same thing happens in the tech world. When you buy a processor or graphics card--- they are making thousands of them--- and then sorting them by their actual tested performance... so you'll be able to buy a xx60, xx70, xx80 or xx90, ..ect..... and yeah sure, maybe they were all made the same way. But there's only 100 that came out as xx90's and 7500 of them were xx60's--- so obviously "supply" becomes a factor. Also, it comes down to manufacturing capacity-- if they are only able to make 1000 of them per year because they are a small company-- then they have to price them enough to keep the lights on---- Where as a giant warehouse that has the capacity to make 100k of them, will have a lot of inventory laying around and they will drop prices just to get it out the door.... Plus you end up finding that cheap labor/ almost slave labor becomes a factor too................... There's a simple answer to this-- if you don't need that top tier precision then don't buy it... get a primary arms and be happy-- that's what I do.
Don't forget about R&D, payroll, marketing, manufacturing, and all the other overhead. Maybe $3,000 is still too high, excess profit, IDK.
@@marzcapone9939 You're right. There are still additional cost involved. I would agree still way too much profit.
@@marzcapone9939 You are exactly on point. It’s not purely material and processing cost that manufactures have to recoup. R and D, employee cost, etc etc.
@@calholli make 5000 and pick 100 out of the batch?! You've never worked in manufacturing. That's painfully obvious.
6.5C is flatter than .308 but the ammo supply for 6.5C could easily dry up faster than Hillary when Monica knocks on the door.
How long have you been saving that one up?😜
Darn man, thats dry.
Think 6.5 creedmoor is bad try finding 6.5 prc ammo
And this is why I roll my own
Bill. The gift that keeps on giving
Just got my Arken in and the quality and craftsmanship is top notch. Great review!!!
I have this scope on my .224 Valkyrie. She performs flawlessly. Better than the vortex and bushnell scopes I’ve ran in the past. Good video. 👍🏼
Chris what do you think of the .224 valk ? It seems like its time came-and-went. What do you use it for? (Can't hunt with it in all states :( )
If you are going to sit there and tell me that this scope out forms a high-end vortex or Bushnell then you need to get behind a really nice piece of glass and then go back to your arken and you will be absolutely blown away with the difference between high quality glass and even the best that arken has to offer.
@@stevenhalford3961 I said what I said.
I have watched lots of videos on this scope, and I had my doubts. But two things from this review. First, it’s IV888, and I think he knows what he’s talking about. Second, all the other videos had a link with a discount code, so their reviews are suspect to me because the reviewers are getting kick backs. But Eric didn’t include any discounts or links, and didn’t try to sell me one. That makes me think his review is honest
Just the kind of optic I was looking for, thanks dude!
Bought one for my 6 ARC and after my neighbor shot it we ordered one for his grendel.👍👍 It arrived in 4 or 5 days too.
Great video. The guys at Arken have put a ton of work into getting affordable optics into the hands of American Hunters/Shooters. Theyve dealt with some incredible setbacks. Finally IN Stock!
Just got this exact scope for $311 shipped to my house. Black Friday rocks!!!
How does the sight feel? Are you happy with it? Thinking about to get one to my 308
@@JetHenke Works great on my 308. Shooting 1 inch groups at 100yds. Couldn't do that with my 20yr old scope I had on it. So there's that
@@JetHenkedid you end up getting one? If so, what did you think? Thinking about grabbing one so trying to gather sone info
@@Romanus- No i never bought any. I went for Eotech instead :)
Excellent shooting. Your adjustments are great measuring distance. Definitely a fan of your channel
I have four of them on different guns and just love them! No problems with them at all. On rifle is used on the farm on an almost daily basis and I have given it a beating and it still functions flawless!
I ordered this exact scope with a set of Arken rings. Took it outside to check out the features and clarity, then immediately snatched a Vortex off my 6.5 AR10. After first trip to range, I sold that Vortex and ordering more Arken scopes for other rifles. I have adjusted it at 50 yrd increments out to 800 and back to zero stop a few times, tracking is dead on.
My pst gen 2 fails every year. I only know because I long range shoot. I'm selling all my Vortex optics. I'm here a week before moose season and my pst tracks like shit.
@@brandonboyd2500 - I have 2 other Vortex scopes that will be gone soon. Arken was back-ordered when I purchased mine, I got weekly emails about manufacturing and ETA, then got it a few weeks earlier than expected. A few weeks ago, I think they had scopes in stock ready to ship.
I bought an Arken about a year ago and I’ve been nothing but happy with it.
been wanting to top off my new ar-10 and have had some reserves on what to buy. i’ve always bought low end vortex optics which are still nice scopes but i’ve been craving something more without breaking the bank! thanks guys for this review!
Just ordered this scope on sale for $299 and an accessory kit for $20 after a $170 discount. After hearing you say it’s a seal team owner and design I’m am that much more happy. I’ve heard nothing but good things about this scope. Great video and info.
Where did you purchase your scope thru?
@@BPeterson730 right from Arken Optics. I think they are in Texas.
how did you get $170 off
It was a sale they had going on.
Damn pissed I missed that sale lol
Instead of the tall-target test, do a small-target test. At 100 yards, shoot a three shot group. Adjust 8 clicks up, 8 clicks right, 8 clicks down, and then 8 clicks left. Fire another three shot group. See if the group is in the same place as the first. Most scopes will fail this test.
That's a turret test on returning to zero. The other test is to make sure if you adjust 40 clicks or 10 inches up the clicks actually move your poi 10 inches. I saw one guy do both tests in one. He had a center dot he shot at then in a square pattern he had four more targets ten inches up, down left and right and only made scope adjustments while always shooting at the center dot to see if it tracked properly and hit each dot in all four corners then returned it to zero for one last center shot grouping.
Wow really nice!! I looked up the optic while watching the video $415-$499 nice and first focal plane wow. Also with veteran owned company that’s just a win win and win
I ran a tall target test on my LR .308 and LR 6.5 Creedmore using Vortex Viper scopes.
PASSED BEAUTIFULLY
I ran a test on my equinox 800. PASSED BEAUTIFULLY.
I have a couple of arkens. The 6-25(AR15) and the 4-16(AR22), I love them both! Been thinking of upgrading my AR10 scope to one of those as well.
Why on earth would you need that much magnification on a 22? LOL.
I love the giddy look in Erick's eyes when he says "This Huge reciprocating chunk of mass right here that is the bolt carrier on the Scar.... It's kind of a Freak of Nature". Kind of looks like a mad man lol.
Just bought this Arken. Got it in 3 days. It looks great. It's replacing the 12X SWFA on my Bergara LRP 6.5. Woot!
I bought the Scar 17 and thought the 16 would be pointless. But I loved the 17 so much, I ended up getting the scar 16 also. Love those guns! If I could only keep 3 it’s those and my Benelli M4.
Wow! You are like very special and stuff. Go you.
Chad's a good spotter. 👍. Walked him right in. 😊
I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of these two--- they've had a lot of time together and are both good spotters for each other.
Bought this to replace a Primary Arms 16× scope, which was outstanding, but this gem is a dream. I also have a viper which was almost $900 and honestly the glass, clarity, aberration is equal. Eye relief is a little tight but I shoot prone so no big deal. Forget about the cost, this is an outstanding piece of equipment for any amount of money. It just works. I'm curious to see how it handles the SCARs recoil.
The people crapping on it are just people that want to justify their $2,000 scope that they shoot 3 times a year. I have about 1000 rounds through it after zero on an RPR in 6.5CM, still sub MOA. No problem with clarity or durability as I’ve dropped my rifle a couple times. What else do you want your scope to do, make the adjustments for you and pull the trigger??
4:30 Under the white steel target. That deer has no clue how close it came to dying!
That's the benefit of shooting suppressed. You can take 4-5 hogs before they discover that their friends aren't on all 4s anymore lol
Wow!! Good eye!! I didn’t catch that until I ran it back to that time clip.
👍
That deer looked back when the steel rang with no clue
Just got the SH4 Gen II for $299 shipped....very impressed.
Ordered the EP5 😁
Finally, a fantastic budget friendly glass
They need to make a FFP LPVO!
Was hitting 1000 yards with my R700 chambered in. 308 and arken sitting on top no problem.. love when people jump to all the "trendy" calibers. Nothing wrong with .308 everybody, it'll be okay.
Thanks for your nice info-clip and yes, I just did get one of the scopes and no, since it's a bit 'nippy' out there, I haven't used it yet and look forward to try it on my ArmaLite AR-15 with a 24" bull barrel soon - take care and try to stay out of trouble!
Friggin Arken raised all their prices for Black Friday.
Shit cant stay the same forever dude.
I've had the scope now for a few weeks it's a tank weight is extremely important and for a few dollars more my night force scope wins for weight and great glass . So mine is going in my selling list and restock on some 6.5 CRD rounds.
Send it to me I will put it on my 6.5
The NF scopes do win out for weight and glass but where they lack a bit (and I do mean by a "hair") is tracking precision. With both the Arken or even the SWFA scopes their tracking accuracy is typically 99% or higher, vs around 98% with the NF scopes on average, doesn't sound like much but for longer ranges out to 1k+ yards that makes a huge difference with that much scope error IF you shoot that far. Most folks won't even notice that, but if you're trying to pop a Coyote at that range...
@@macgyver5108 trying to pop a coyote at 1000 yards? You forget your caller? Most people who talk about 1000 yard shots have no idea the trajectory variables and math involved. It sounds like a really impressive number to throw around though.. Let me guess- offhand, right?
@@beavisroadhog9629 offhand? I'm not as good as Ryan Cleckner (he has, on video no less) who taught me some of my long range skill set. (Sniper instructor, author, might have heard of him)
I shoot at 1k plus at least once a year for a week straight out on the crazy ass wind swept prairies of Wyoming, I know EXACTLY how hard 1k is to shoot in some unpredictable crazy winds.
Worse, I'm a bit of a natural at shooting. I saw a well intentioned post about how hunters shouldn't assume they can shoot long shots because they bought the tools. It showed a 700 yard target from a national PRS match that I felt was pretty pathetic, at a known distance, practically dead calm wind all day and still not many 'kill shots' on a deer sized target.
My first time shooting at that distance was in variable 10mph winds, swirling L/R down the long bendy canyon I was shooting up into. I missed the 1st shot then went 11 out of 12 on a 10" gong. Care to talk about Coriolis effect, copper equilibrium, harmonics?
@@beavisroadhog9629 Just remembered, a few years back hunting Wy with my dad, I "missed" 3 shots on an Antelope at 400 yards. My dad wondered how on earth I could miss that, a "gimme" shot for me? Had my scope still dialed from practice earlier, for 1300 yards...🤦♂️😂
Great review. The SH4s are on sale right now direct from Arken they lowered their prices on all of their the SH models. $289 for their better 4-16x50 and $299 for the 6-24x that's not so great due to limitations of the cheap glass not good enough for 24x.
Thx for another great video ! You make it all look so easy & we love hearing the joyful vibe as you have another day at work ! I would never want to take your " Job " but I sure would like to have as much fun as you apparently are having at " Work " ! !
Cool video Bro ! Will probably buy this optic now
Just picked one up for 299 WITH a set of their halo rings. Super excited
I want to see more tall target test show downs!
This is a badass scope speaking from experience I picked this up two months ago put it on my nemesis valkyrie hold zero every time.
Can’t wait to get my scope in. I just ordered the 5-25 version they just came out with hoping it’s as good as the older versions seem to be. Getting into shooting and am on a budget pairing the scope with a Bergara B14 and can’t wait to get started
How to you like it with your Bergara?
Also don't be cheap when it comes to your optics. While the higher quality optics May cost a little more than they should this is mainly because of the r&d that they did to perfect their optics and then have other companies copy their work. R&d does not mean receive and duplicate. By the way the issued optic is a fixed 10 power. That is what would be on your M-24 or mini-14.
Nicely done! Great detail and great optic. Definitely will have to check them out.. See you guys in a few weeks.
I highly recommend this scope and even more the guys that sell them. The service they gave me was superior!
You may have misspoke when you say the tall target test indicates the reticle accuracy, it's more relative to the turret adjustment accuracy, and that rifle in the right hands is a very capable 1000 yard rifle, and the scope is more than capable of getting the right rifle on at 1000 and well beyond. I have one and it's easily comparative to lots of $1000+ dollar scopes. Feels like this is as much a review of the gun, as it is the scope. Having been good at 1000 with several different rifles and scopes, this is my favorite of them all...
Pretty cool that the full 24x is usable. Typically not the case on a value optic.
I have 2 of the Arken SH4 5-24 x 50 scopes.
All features except the glass and the tracking error which some units have although within the acceptable range. Good for everything one needs though and them some. Definitely lots of premium features for the price. If this is your first FFp target/tactical type scope its more than fine. if you come from the zeiss, Swaros, and the likes you’ll be spoiled with the Resolution and Clarity that its noticeable and annoying when you go to the lower to mid tier scopes.😁
Comparing $3000 plus to $300 scopes makes no sense to me.
my typical thought after watching , "yep, I want one!"
I heard Tib Rex talking about these scopes.
Nice one! Have a look at the Athlon Neos 6-18x44 as well. Loving it on my 223. Very affordable, crystal clear, razor sharp. Keep keeping it real guys!
My buddy put one on a .308 and the elevation knob stopped working. They did warranty it.....still......Chinesium.
@@1980Baldeagle hey, bad luck with that one. Part of the reason I got it was the warranty, figured you can't go wrong for the price. I'm also a fan of Leupold and Bushnell... both quality brands.
Rex made a video on these "get them before the supply chain goes down" half of them are arlready on back order.
Man that scar is a beast. I wonder if you could put a structured barrel on her?
Also I would make the barrel longer too to fully take advantage of that structured barrel because even with super long barrels you don’t suffer much in the way of barrel harmonics.
6.5 Creedmoor makes a lot of sense for the SCAR-H. I think the 6.5 Grendel or 6mmARC would be perfect in the SCAR-L.
What about a 6.8 western?
@@markmtbrider Don't know much about it, but sounds like it could fit well with SCAR-H.
@@markmtbrider depends what all you want to do with it... For longer ranges, go a bit "skinny" in caliber with a heavier bullet for a higher B.C. or Ballistic Coefficient. Higher B.C. cuts the wind better and drops less, increasing your hit percentage at longer range. The smaller the caliber is at the same velocity it will burn through barrels a bit quicker too though. Why 6.5mm is kind of a happy medium unless you want a '6mm laser beam'.
I love, love, love the SCAR 20S. But for $4500, you gotta be shittin’ me LOL I can build something that shoots just as well for less than half that LOL Actually, currently doing that as we speak!
FN is nuts on their pricing for most if not all of their firesrms.
@@joshuamaxwell8376 Are they really though?
@@JacobTheGunNut Well, their name is, "Fabrique Nationelle," or some hoytie toytie bs like that. You'd think they'd be selling fabrijay eggs with a name like that. Yes, I know I can't spell.
FN and HK are the Louie Vutton and Gutti of the firearms market. Change my mind.
Thanks for the informative video.. I'm a fan of both rounds.. .308 and 6.5, 6.5 ballistics are better, although its all in what you design the rifle to do. I prefer the 6.5 while hunting, even though I was raised with the 223 Rock River AR to hunt with. 6.5 wasn't around.. Good content!
Man I've had my 6.5x55 since 86. Wasn't around? Pretty sure the 6.5 was used in WWI. Just messing.
You must be like 19 if you were raised hunting with an AR lol
Snipers been killing for decades with the .308 and 300 mag ... Could find amo on every continent!! Hard to find creedmore at midway nowadays 😂
Got a deal on a used SH4J and threw it on a 22lr. Been pretty impressed with it thus far and I can smack 12 ga hulls with boring consistency at 100 yds
Great Review Eric
I like to keep the low end of magnification to no more X3 on my rifles. Higher end is nice for bench or prone shooting.
Arken also makes a 6-24x50mm Japanese made scope. What is that model called?
I heard it was called the EP4.
They don’t list country of origin on the site. Where can I confirm your statement? I refuse to support commie countries when it’s possible.
@@BombproofCraftsman does the EP4 exist anymore? I don't know it they still manufacture it.
I know for a fact the ep4 uses Japanese glass. I just don't know if it's manufactured in Japan or not.
It is Japanese glass and it does exist. They just haven’t been able to produce any since the pandemic started. Bit pricier.
Is it Chineseum?
I have this optic on a Savage 110 tactical in 6.5. It is fantastic to use. only able to stretch to 600 where im at however with the optic it does it with ease
I See A new Arken Scope In My Future!!
This is a scope i have been looking for and i think this will be great for me.
I'm really debating one of these when I build a 300prc
As an engineer, I cannot abide but the cantilevered scope mount.
Tract and Arken are becoming my favs
great video.
your experience and knowledge is much appreciated, thank you.
I have fired many rifles, and I admit, I am not a sharpshooter . I need to train more...that is a beautiful rifle and scope!!!
Damn...nice shooting! I have an Arken EP4 6-24x50 and love it on my RPR in 6Creed.
I’ve got three Arken scopes, they have been great from day one! They are a very good option!
Do you have an EP-4? Is it worth the extra price?
@@stevennewman4778 yes, I’m my opinion it is.
Your best optic video up to now thx.
That optic is sick...awesome video Eric and the team and Eric could I borrow that there rifle 😁
Don't much care how a scope performs on a clear day against a bright white target out in the open. Everything does well in ideal conditions.
Take it out fifteen minutes before sundown, against a greyed out target that's nestled against mixed foliage and shadow. Then stack it against Leupold, Nightforce, Zeiss, Vortex, or otherwise in the $1500-2400 range.
It’s not a $1500-$2000 scope though.
It’s probably quite good especially for it’s price, but to expect a $300 scope to compare to a $2000 Nightforce is not realistic…
@@luckymanham302 Did you read the video title?
@@silvermediastudio I did and I stand by that statement. It’s ridiculous to expect a $300 optic to be on par with a $2000 optic. It’s only $500 when you include rings and whatnot. It may be decent for the price, but not in the same league as a Tract, Nightforce, or comparable scope.
@@luckymanham302 Is this your first day on the internet?
@@silvermediastudio no, but it’s my first day dealing with slow people such as yourself.
I did enjoy it, thanks for asking.
I own three. I also picked up a EP 5 model. They have best in glass for the money. Especially when you get them on sale. Don’t buy a scar in 6.5 Creedmor. Check out the military channel. Problems. And they are not standing behind them. Warranty is voided if you use a suppressor.
Just my thoughts, but a .25-06 with the newer 131-135 grain bullets would be pretty impressive through a 1:7 twist barrel. Thanks for another great video. I have yet to buy an Arken scope but I may have to after watching this. That tall target test is no joke.
Yep been looking at these. My next rifle will be getting one.
Great review!!!
Yup. That's a good scope.
Just got my Arken today
Really nice equipment!
Had the 6-14, sold it and stepped up to this scope
Good stuff ... im looking into getting that scope
Thank you. Thinking about one
I've been trying to find one of these in canada since they came out, be great if they stopped getting such good reviews
I was about to comment on the last video where this gun was featured and ask you to do a review of the optic
The eye box on this scope is VERY unforgiving. At full magnification, it is extremely difficult to find the correct eye relief.
Why would you want to use this scope at full magnification where the image quality sucks? It's fine at 16x and 20x.
Eric, I saw one review that talked about the eye having to be very tight center or getting artifacts/fuzzy edges - and that if you move to a new position like in competition, it will be hard to get your eye positioned correctly. Did you notice any problem acquiring the eye piece center? And on full magnification, you didn't note any issues with artifacts.
I just got one delivered and to be honest it's a VERY tight eye box. Like...slight movement off center and it's shadowing and losing picture tight. I'm 50/50 on whether I even mount it or just send it back.
Great video! Awsome Tech for $500.
thank you for the video guy's!!!
Great review ty
these are on sale for 289/299 right now, crazy
Yup best underground scope in the world. Period. Operator level quality.
Awesome video dude and nice shooting!! Gotta mossberg 308 bolt action mvp scout coming and I’ve been seriously considering an Arken scope!!! Should I go 50mm or 40mm objective?? 16.24” barrel . Thanks!
Dreams do come true! I'll take two!
That’s pretty darn awesome!!!
Thanks!
325 right now. They have 30% off had to grab one.
No, they're not $2000 quality. But, they're probably 80-85% for 1/5th the costs and are perfectly fine for target/range/varmint rifles out to beyond ranges most people shoot.
Exactly. its probably the best scope under 1k$