StangMode Awesome Video I think all of those S650 Mustang Dark Horses are absolutely gorgeous and I think your epoxy flooring looks absolutely incredible
I picked up the Mach 1 for less than 60k brand new, after all fees. Couldnt imagine paying $80k+ for a coyote. A lot of part sharing with the GT500 on the Mach 1 so presumably the same with the dark horse, but after tax and fees $85k financed at these rates is insane. The Mach 1, and DH are great vehicles and I've already seen track time, but the price is not appealing at all.
@@kcollins1996 just a terminology used for the body style. FOX BODY: 1979-1993 MUSTANGS SN95: 1994-2004 MUSTANGS S197: 2005-2014 MUSTANGS S550: 2015-2023 MUSTANGS S650:2024+
FAX lol i was thinking the same thing the ticking was waaaayyyyyy worse!! gotta be glad the v8 ICE mustang continues and 32valves these have made the noise and no issues. but sheeeesh that thing sounded bad no wonder driver asked if he could start with hood open. BUTTT ive heards some of these cars and others with 16 injectors for the ad direct injection that in itself will give a little tick noise
I own a 2016/17 GT premium. Herod supplied ceramic coated headers, billet oil gears and cooler and billet timing gear with 20kw tune. No tick or knock at all.
This is what Ford should be doing with the Dark Horse.... creating a car that is in between the GT Premium, and the gt500 affordably with around 650 horsepower.....65-67K would be a great asking price!!!
I'm sorry, but at 6 minutes 30 seconds into this video , when he starts that Mustang up that motor doesn't sound right, it sounds pretty rough as a matter of fact
No... I'm wondering if you know what piston slap is and what causes it. There's at least a dozen Dark Horse videos of these same Mustangs on U-Tube. There was no tics other than possibly the direct injection noise that these type of engines no matter the brand makes. My modded 5.7 Hemi makes more ticking noise than a Coyote
Well don't buy one then or get a used one. It's well worth it. These engines/powertrain etc are overengineered in every way. With good basic maintenance they last ya forever. Hence all the older Stangs around. Its solid investment vs most other sports cars 💯
I think most of what you're paying for is the transmission and suspension upgrades stuff you probably wouldn't care about if you don't go to the track. If you're actually trying to build a car like this, you can't do it cheaper with a new GT and aftermarket, especially if you want the carbon fiber wheels, which are stupidly expensive if you buy them alone.
Lol y’all really get on here knowing nothing about cars…that is NOT a knock and not even close to a knock… these are direct injection motors…like bro.. 🥴
@@thundorkat you must not know anything about cars I said injectors in my comment so people like you wouldn’t say the default direct injection comment. You must not know what direct injection is.
They won’t. Even the 550 was struggling to keep up in sales with mopar. Anyone paying 60k for a non Shelby mustang is insane. Just a few years ago you could get the v8 for 26-30k. These prices are absurd.
As a mustang enthusiast that has owned several. I'm not spending upwards of $79k on a pony car. Simply isn't happening. Not when GM has a mid engine corvette that is an absolute monster for less. Yes I know the mark ups are still a thing but compared to a mustang you're shopping in GT350 range. Which is a hell of a car. A flat plane crank V8. Or a 14 GT500 with that predator motor. Both absolutely stunning cars. The looks also don't bound over the previous generation. I think the S550 looks way sportier. This looks... muted. Domestic.
I’m not a Ford fan usually but WOW! Inside and out, great in design. Would consider this car just for the exhaust. Oddly the one thing that makes it cheap looking is the steering wheel center cap…..Crazy huh?
I honestly wish these were pushrod V8's !!! The sound of a Dodge Challenger is more deeper and like bassy if that makes sense. This DOHC V8 sounds more airy, raspy and just lacks tone like a pushrod. Also that coyote tick got worse too lol 🤔
I was seriously considering buying a 2024 Darkhorse ,but the dash held me back i needed to see more so i looked at every video i could seeing different angles of the interior and i made up my mind ,i Hate the interior of the S650 so i have a 2SS 1LE on order since feb 27th
@@khoanguyen1176 Are u kidding ,I had a 2022 1LE for about 3 hours and absolutely loved it ,I was worried about comfort ,and i will say it is not an issue ,I was very comfortable
I'm surprised you can still order a 2SS 1LE; great car but I saw the Darkhorse with the performance package at the Barret-Jackson Auction and it is legit ( this is coming from a 21' Scat WB Challenger owner ); they're both great cars but the Camaro is better value. The Darkhorse WILL turn heads though..........
All other mainstream automakers except Chevy/Dodge (for now) have watered dwn yet still expensive vehicles (horrible new Supra w/bimmer engine). Kudos to Ford for continued investment in there iconic Mustang! Plus most Mustangs not only hold there values but often go UP in value. *Ford's getting my $ for '24 Mustang GT black on black later this yr* . 💯
I was ready to pick this car over the 2SS 1LE but at this price I don’t thinks it’s really worth it. And $80 for the handling package. That’s just insane and no power difference.
I kind of wish there was a PP2 GT. Aside from that, I think the base Dark Horse is the best Mustang. The premium differences are small and while I like the handling pack, it will be a nightmare to get tires for in 5 years.
For that anount of money i would figure that the tires would be bigger, magna ride would be standard etc. 315 rear tires should be standard on a 59k mustang.
Born and raised in Philly and I will say I've noticed so many car reviewers using New Jersey Cars from many owners because no State is more enthusiastic about nice cars. Facts
Ford needs an affordable Mustang around 65-67K, that's in between the GT Premium, and the GT500, that is Supercharged to around 650 Horsepower.... something to run against the Camaro ZL1 and the C7 corvette.
@@angelgjr1999 I would like for them to put something in that 600 horsepower range affordable. Get to choose stick or automatic, even that ugly flat screen dash, or s550 digital dash, or even the good ole analog dash for the bare minimum, high horsepower, driving enthusiast. I think the Darkhorse is over priced for 500 horsepower, and the GT500 is unattainable for the average blue collar Joe.
The word "affordable" should no longer be used in conjunction with ANY new car especially this one considering this car was always touted as the affordable performance car. Its no longer affordable to 90% of population
Call me old school maybe but it’s just a damn 5.0 at shelby gt350 prices. Very very overpriced in my opinion. I’m a die hard mustsng fan but no way I would let my shelby go for this. 🤷♂️
Your not going to believe me but on this day 05/17/23 I just ordered My Dark Horse Premium. 6 months maybe a little longer because of the Carbon Fiber Wheels. $8,995 extra. BTW no dealer mark up over MSRP. My sixth car from this dealership. That could be the reason
I used to own a gt 350 and was soo glad to dump it . I bought a Lexus LC 500 with 472 hp engine that has ported injection and direct so no wear . No turbos and the sound is amazing but it will cost you 130,000 to get one and year wait . The only reason why I sold is that the car itself was cheap and I mean cheap !!!
Just thought the same exact thing when I saw the grabber blue. I love the blue ember but that grabber omg. Although the benefit is that the blue ember is exclusive to the dark Horse and it is not available to any other vehicle in Ford’s line up. Also I always said if ford came out with a color changing vehicle like mystic chrome i would order one. I’ve already had the grabber blue. I think this vehicle with how aggressive it is needs to be a darker color very menacing.
You really need to comment on the elephant in the room…we constantly hear “this is the most powerful coyote ever” but it actually isn’t because it can’t be tuned. 30 minutes in a tuner shop and literally any other coyote model is more powerful.
Blue ember looks almost like a dark purple here, love it. I know its a dark horse exclusive now, but hopefully it comes to the otjer trims in the future.
I do not like the fact that half the fourth-generation Coyote GT/Dark Horse engine is under the dash and cowl vent panel. That will make it a lot more difficult to access for full tune-up, repairs, and upgrades.
I will always love the mustangs and when I'm 19 and I'm done with South Africa and I'm done with school and I graduated from school then I'm moving to America from South Africa can't wait to see you guys In America
Well in my opinion the handling and the bleeps of the interior must do some sort of a play on Han Solo. I don't know. I don't think an American brand would make that without them having mentioned Han Solo.
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StangMode Awesome Video I think all of those S650 Mustang Dark Horses are absolutely gorgeous and I think your epoxy flooring looks absolutely incredible
It doesn't matter what they cost if the dealerships are marking them up another $15k. No way near worth $90k after the "dealer markup" 😂
Order them now and you get what you want, no mark up🤷🏻♂️ just gotta wait a long while
@@lil_nono0774 simple as that.
@@lil_nono0774 yep got my dark horse on preorder day and price protection no markup no extra cash if ford bumps up the price like they did recently
mine told me only 5 k over they will order me one
Yea. Nowadays you have to start looking at cars 5k-10k cheaper because of the markups to actually get the car that you can afford or want
$79K for a Dark Horse? It's official: The engineers at Ford are inhaling fumes.
I picked up the Mach 1 for less than 60k brand new, after all fees. Couldnt imagine paying $80k+ for a coyote. A lot of part sharing with the GT500 on the Mach 1 so presumably the same with the dark horse, but after tax and fees $85k financed at these rates is insane. The Mach 1, and DH are great vehicles and I've already seen track time, but the price is not appealing at all.
@@xXxStoudemire1xXx the Mach 1 shared a lot with the gt350 not the gt500. Mach 1 was supposed to be the new in between model from GT to GT500.
@@idohearthatersdgk its really between a gt and gt350 but truly its more gt. shares engine and suspension
What do the engineers have to do with the sales price?
“””” cocaine getting expensive “”””””
That grabber blue on the dark horse looks so damn good. I'm an s197 guy but I'd absolutely get this
You’re just a guy
The make of the car is ford and the model is mustang. What is the meaning for s197? And how are the 14 Gts referred to?
@@kcollins1996 just a terminology used for the body style.
FOX BODY: 1979-1993 MUSTANGS
SN95: 1994-2004 MUSTANGS
S197: 2005-2014 MUSTANGS
S550: 2015-2023 MUSTANGS
S650:2024+
Seems like I would have to do the $59k. Just not enough extra stuff for the extra 20k.
So it only took 58 years to get hood struts.
Struts are for beta males
rofl that was quietly one of my favorite parts
The infamous tick noise sounds louder on the 4th generation Coyote. 😆
FAX lol i was thinking the same thing the ticking was waaaayyyyyy worse!! gotta be glad the v8 ICE mustang continues and 32valves these have made the noise and no issues. but sheeeesh that thing sounded bad no wonder driver asked if he could start with hood open. BUTTT ive heards some of these cars and others with 16 injectors for the ad direct injection that in itself will give a little tick noise
at 6 minutes 30 seconds into this video , when he starts that Mustang up that motor doesn't sound right, it sounds pretty rough as a matter of fact
I own a 2016/17 GT premium. Herod supplied ceramic coated headers, billet oil gears and cooler and billet timing gear with 20kw tune. No tick or knock at all.
Sumbish started up like a 6.0 Powerstroke
Sound like a 300k mile 5.3 with no oil lol
Are they ticking?
ZL1, 650hp, $67k, just sayin.
5 years ago
This is what Ford should be doing with the Dark Horse.... creating a car that is in between the GT Premium, and the gt500 affordably with around 650 horsepower.....65-67K would be a great asking price!!!
The prices will come down once Ford gets shocked by the low sales numbers. Even the 550 was struggling
@@kidamere2408 i just bought a 23 for mid 70s...still less than a decked out dark horse.
@@fullmetaljacktt ok?
The outside isn't bad, the inside🤮
But these prices 60-79k are ridiculous
79k is way too much and maybe sales will reflect that
@@xxtrissfacts 😂
No markup included 🥲
@🌽 1SS no you cant.
Bra, you can get a base 5.0 and just build it up for less than 79k
I'm sorry, but at 6 minutes 30 seconds into this video , when he starts that Mustang up that motor doesn't sound right, it sounds pretty rough as a matter of fact
Hear that piston slap lol
No... I'm wondering if you know what piston slap is and what causes it. There's at least a dozen Dark Horse videos of these same Mustangs on U-Tube. There was no tics other than possibly the direct injection noise that these type of engines no matter the brand makes. My modded 5.7 Hemi makes more ticking noise than a Coyote
The twin turbo set up on this car will be epic!
And I thought the hemi tick was bad lol. Sweet looking rides for sure.
For 20 to 40 hp gain and asking these prices your insane. A e85 tune on a gen 3 and your close to this. Have fun with your dual screen monitors.
Well don't buy one then or get a used one. It's well worth it. These engines/powertrain etc are overengineered in every way. With good basic maintenance they last ya forever. Hence all the older Stangs around. Its solid investment vs most other sports cars 💯
@@Davido50I own a 2020 gt premium. What I am saying is the price difference is not worth it. I got mine for 40k and there asking 59k for base what?
@@snow21usa most s550 msrps are around 50k. a 9k increase in price isn’t crazy at all
I think most of what you're paying for is the transmission and suspension upgrades stuff you probably wouldn't care about if you don't go to the track.
If you're actually trying to build a car like this, you can't do it cheaper with a new GT and aftermarket, especially if you want the carbon fiber wheels, which are stupidly expensive if you buy them alone.
Everybody does the same tune, the dark horse is no basic GT.
It’s not about being faster, your paying to make a statement
@4:15 is when the video starts
Bro knocking like crazy. Yes I know the injectors are loud, but this is another level of metal clanking sounds.
when he starts that Mustang up that motor doesn't sound right, it sounds pretty rough as a matter of fact
100% , first thing I thought .
Lol y’all really get on here knowing nothing about cars…that is NOT a knock and not even close to a knock… these are direct injection motors…like bro.. 🥴
@@thundorkat direct knockers lol
@@thundorkat you must not know anything about cars I said injectors in my comment so people like you wouldn’t say the default direct injection comment. You must not know what direct injection is.
Ford has to have the most loyal fanbase for ppl to pay 80k for a mustang gt 😂
Ford and BMW
They won’t. Even the 550 was struggling to keep up in sales with mopar. Anyone paying 60k for a non Shelby mustang is insane. Just a few years ago you could get the v8 for 26-30k. These prices are absurd.
@@Cardiakk agree 😂
@@angelgjr1999 they are
6:34 What i like is the V8 rumble can be heard more from the engine as much as exhaust.
Im in love with the interior, I think it attracts new young drivers like myself.
Come back in 5 years 😂 it will age like sheeeeeeet
I like the deeper sounding exhaust
42k for a base model GT is insane lol
Mmm not in today's world
Yeah after seeing this I’m either going to get s550 or just stay JDM I really don’t like the redesign maybe it’ll grow on me like the 18’ - 23’
S550 is going to be a great platform for years to come.
500 horse out of the 5 liter? That is actually insane.
Did they move the battery to the trunk
As a mustang enthusiast that has owned several. I'm not spending upwards of $79k on a pony car. Simply isn't happening. Not when GM has a mid engine corvette that is an absolute monster for less. Yes I know the mark ups are still a thing but compared to a mustang you're shopping in GT350 range. Which is a hell of a car. A flat plane crank V8. Or a 14 GT500 with that predator motor. Both absolutely stunning cars. The looks also don't bound over the previous generation. I think the S550 looks way sportier. This looks... muted. Domestic.
ZL1 and ZL1 1LE prices
79k means 95k in CA. The M2 is 95k too. Wonder which car I'll see pull up at a car meet first?! I plan on doing epoxy in my garage too, looks good.
M2 is 65k.
@@DMCarReviews lies
Normal GT’s get a tremec or the mt-82 again?
I’m not a Ford fan usually but WOW! Inside and out, great in design. Would consider this car just for the exhaust. Oddly the one thing that makes it cheap looking is the steering wheel center cap…..Crazy huh?
When did they release these Katy Parry editions?
Too much money. Asking gt500 money for what is a dressed up mach 1 for the next gen mustang is dumb.
It’s the regulars GT going to have the twin intake? Or only the Dark horse.
How would that be with twin turbos on it and a tune?
That grabber blue one is just gorgeous.
I honestly wish these were pushrod V8's !!! The sound of a Dodge Challenger is more deeper and like bassy if that makes sense. This DOHC V8 sounds more airy, raspy and just lacks tone like a pushrod. Also that coyote tick got worse too lol 🤔
I was seriously considering buying a 2024 Darkhorse ,but the dash held me back i needed to see more so i looked at every video i could seeing different angles of the interior and i made up my mind ,i Hate the interior of the S650 so i have a 2SS 1LE on order since feb 27th
You’ll hate it when you start driving it 😂
@@khoanguyen1176 Are u kidding ,I had a 2022 1LE for about 3 hours and absolutely loved it ,I was worried about comfort ,and i will say it is not an issue ,I was very comfortable
I'm surprised you can still order a 2SS 1LE; great car but I saw the Darkhorse with the performance package at the Barret-Jackson Auction and it is legit ( this is coming from a 21' Scat WB Challenger owner ); they're both great cars but the Camaro is better value. The Darkhorse WILL turn heads though..........
Interior is horrible
@@RARochester I like the darkhorse I just hate the interior& my order went in Feb 27 so it's been a little while
does it have dual intakes now?
All other mainstream automakers except Chevy/Dodge (for now) have watered dwn yet still expensive vehicles (horrible new Supra w/bimmer engine). Kudos to Ford for continued investment in there iconic Mustang! Plus most Mustangs not only hold there values but often go UP in value. *Ford's getting my $ for '24 Mustang GT black on black later this yr* . 💯
Yes since they are all are pretty much the same. I'll just take the cheap one.😅
Facts bruh
Hi, Do they move the car Battery location to trunk in all Mustang or only the Dark Horse 🐎 👍
I was ready to pick this car over the 2SS 1LE but at this price I don’t thinks it’s really worth it. And $80 for the handling package. That’s just insane and no power difference.
$80k and you can get a Corvette... I love Mustangs but, for $80k, I better be getting a GT500, not a warmed over GT = Darkhorse
How much for base 10speed
When they showed off the new Mustang it made me go on a hunt for a s550. Loving my 2022 Grabber Blue GT
I kind of wish there was a PP2 GT. Aside from that, I think the base Dark Horse is the best Mustang. The premium differences are small and while I like the handling pack, it will be a nightmare to get tires for in 5 years.
Yea that don't sound that good with the hood open
Pre detonation. Somebody running cheap fuel 😂
@@angelgjr1999 no🙄 even if it was detonating, it wouldn’t do it at idle. It’s direct injection and the camera mic is exaggerating it.
Dang, these Mustangs just keep getting more and more expensive.
where i can get that mustang jacket??
We getting heated and cooled seats in Recaro?! Front cam & heads up display? 🙏
I’m still so 50/50 on these. Right away I don’t see any reason to jump ship from my s550. But we shall see once I see in person
I’m with you! I think I’ll stick with my S550 a little while longer!!!
S550 looks way better.
For that anount of money i would figure that the tires would be bigger, magna ride would be standard etc. 315 rear tires should be standard on a 59k mustang.
On the grabber blue track package those tires doesn’t look like trefeos
Born and raised in Philly and I will say I've noticed so many car reviewers using New Jersey Cars from many owners because no State is more enthusiastic about nice cars. Facts
Ford needs an affordable Mustang around 65-67K, that's in between the GT Premium, and the GT500, that is Supercharged to around 650 Horsepower.... something to run against the Camaro ZL1 and the C7 corvette.
That’s the dark horse… I just want a bare bones v8 with a stick. Just a few years ago you could get a 5.0 for 30k. These new prices are insane.
@@angelgjr1999 I would like for them to put something in that 600 horsepower range affordable. Get to choose stick or automatic, even that ugly flat screen dash, or s550 digital dash, or even the good ole analog dash for the bare minimum, high horsepower, driving enthusiast. I think the Darkhorse is over priced for 500 horsepower, and the GT500 is unattainable for the average blue collar Joe.
The word "affordable" should no longer be used in conjunction with ANY new car especially this one considering this car was always touted as the affordable performance car. Its no longer affordable to 90% of population
@@lanemorrow7417 Agreed!
"sounds great, sounds very good!" LMAO sounded like it had a miss or something, kinda shaky too.
Basically 3 trim levels ?
I wonder if there going to make a GT350/GT500 version
Are your guys knife good?
I think the epoxy is awesome. Some people over mix the swirls and lines. Yours is just right
I got all my entries in for the GT500 excited!
Call me old school maybe but it’s just a damn 5.0 at shelby gt350 prices. Very very overpriced in my opinion. I’m a die hard mustsng fan but no way I would let my shelby go for this. 🤷♂️
Crazy pricing and definitlely see a decline in sales at those prices.
Your not going to believe me but on this day 05/17/23 I just ordered My Dark Horse Premium. 6 months maybe a little longer because of the Carbon Fiber Wheels. $8,995 extra. BTW no dealer mark up over MSRP. My sixth car from this dealership. That could be the reason
MSRP is way too high imo. If the engine and trans can be tuned, I would buy a GT 10 speed an mod it (Whipple, tune etc.)
I used to own a gt 350 and was soo glad to dump it . I bought a Lexus LC 500 with 472 hp engine that has ported injection and direct so no wear . No turbos and the sound is amazing but it will cost you 130,000 to get one and year wait . The only reason why I sold is that the car itself was cheap and I mean cheap !!!
Its nice to see this car priced out of most peoples budget…
Why carbon fiber like at those prices?
Ya.. better buy cash. $10k of interest on a loan for civic si. Crazy times
80k before tax&fees (don't forget the markups) for 500hp? 🤔
Ford really out here asking corvette prices for a 550 with a table… I’ll just supercharge my new edge instead 😅
80K for Mustang gt?!?! They have lost their minds.
Anyone else notices another sweet car in the background next to the white van?!?! At the 6:08 time?
S550 interior and exterior looks miles better.
Bro, Who is this dude! I have never seen his videos but he got the coolest looking products on UA-cam!
Hopefully they redesign that interior for the S750!!!🤞
It’ll be electric. Biden is killing off gas cars.
Just thought the same exact thing when I saw the grabber blue. I love the blue ember but that grabber omg. Although the benefit is that the blue ember is exclusive to the dark
Horse and it is not available to any other vehicle in Ford’s line up. Also I always said if ford came out with a color changing vehicle like mystic chrome i would order one. I’ve already had the grabber blue. I think this vehicle with how aggressive it is needs to be a darker color very menacing.
GT350s are getting cheaper. I’d love to have a Voodoo over the standard Coyote.
hope i can find one of those dark horse premiums for a good used price here in a few years
Approaching 80K is dangerous territory for an N/A mustang. That’s more than a Camaro ZL1 1LE. But to each their own, still a great car.
The manual base GT (with or without PP) is still the best way to go IMHO.
You really need to comment on the elephant in the room…we constantly hear “this is the most powerful coyote ever” but it actually isn’t because it can’t be tuned. 30 minutes in a tuner shop and literally any other coyote model is more powerful.
Not to mention the two airflow sensors in the dual intake. No way around the carbon emission traps from causing it to go into limp mode.
The new digital gauge cluster is amazing
personally i think that you get a lot of value for the price with mustangs i love those cars ...still cant afford one but i like them
Blue ember looks almost like a dark purple here, love it. I know its a dark horse exclusive now, but hopefully it comes to the otjer trims in the future.
80k ? I can definitely afford but I rather have a corvette instead at that price !!!
I do not like the fact that half the fourth-generation Coyote GT/Dark Horse engine is under the dash and cowl vent panel. That will make it a lot more difficult to access for full tune-up, repairs, and upgrades.
Idk the startup and idle sounded rough😭
What's with that plastic around the headlights? Looks unfinished.
These prices are getting crazy ...😢n that motor sounds alil rough hopefully that was just a cold camera sounding motor
Yeah I heard the tick as well
GT with track pack is all I need .
Geez that motor is loud with the hood up. they still running that 5w20 oil flavored water in these motors?
I will always love the mustangs and when I'm 19 and I'm done with South Africa and I'm done with school and I graduated from school then I'm moving to America from South Africa can't wait to see you guys In America
Loving the epoxy garage floor StangMode ! 👀 and love the footage you are able to get of the new Dark horse 🔥🔥
Well in my opinion the handling and the bleeps of the interior must do some sort of a play on Han Solo. I don't know. I don't think an American brand would make that without them having mentioned Han Solo.
You can tell that they are in direct comp with dodge and Chevy. They are starting to have more similarities.
If this os 79k i guess gt500 would price over 120k lmao
The base looks nice and I bet it rides nice as a daily.
I'd rather get the tweako-boost and then do the appearance package. That 5.0 engine sounded broken
Thinking RTR mustang is a better deal
At least they brought back the muscle look. Tail light trim needs to be blacked out again.
I love the jacket he is wearing with the generations on the back bet thats ford apparel only or where could I find one lol