BRZ Winter Update - Driving in Deep Snow
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2020
- 2014 Subaru BRZ - Modifications in this video:
215/45R17 Firestone WinterMaxx WM01 tires
DBA 4000 Series T3 Front Rotors bit.ly/2Nb1A3W
17x7.5 SSR GT2 Wheels
FT86 Speedfactory Catted UEL Header
OpenFlash Tablet FT86 SF Header Tune (Stg 2 91 v3.0)
NED Oil Cooler Factory OEM - Subaru BRZ
Porterfield R4s Brake Pads
StopTech STR-600 Brake Fluid amzn.to/2pThLFl
2017+ Subaru BRZ Front & Rear Spring/Shock assembly
2017+ Toyota 86 Rear Stabilizer Bar: # SU003-06461
2017+ Toyota 86 Rear Stabilizer Bar Bushings: # SU003-06462
2017+ Subaru BRZ Limited Rear Differential 4.3 Ratio #4111018030
Whiteline Front Camber Bolts (set to -1º)
Clutch pedal helper spring removed for improved weight/feel
Engine oil: 0w20 Eneos Sustina amzn.to/2qSrqL2
Differential fluid: Motul Gear 300 amzn.to/2pcMUoJ
Transmission fluid: Redline MT-90 amzn.to/2pcC1TD
Purchased new October 2014, 58,000 miles at filming
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I almost want to install Chuhatsu lift springs and turn this into a pothole/winter warrior with some meaty 205/55R17s...
Safari BRZ? Take some inspiration from Matt Farah's 911?
Definitely, the one write-up on those springs was with the performance dampers.
Plz do !!!!
TheTopher Chris I vote no. It’s too low torque of an engine, I don’t know that you’d be able to enjoy it as much if you did that.
I think it’s almost perfect for that, but not quite. Do that to a 350z or something man!
TheTopher cool! That was my car! I ended up trading that car for an ‘17 STI... but now I’m wintering a R53 Mini
I live in hot ass Houston, but I had a pretty close encounter with an ice cube that someone threw on the road this morning.
Lmao
sending prayers
Damn, thats messed up
Hehe :) Like
__🚏___🥃__ 🚗 Look out!!!
There was a time when 98% of us were driving rear wheel drive vehicles in winter and we managed to generally get where we were going. Modern snow tires make it so much easier.
Right Lane Hog yes, we did manage somehow! I’ve only ever driven rear wheel cars year round in Canada. To tout sport cars as doing fine with any winter tires, is a little bit of a stretch (what this guy is saying). The BRZ has almost perfect weight distribution, and it makes all the difference. Vettes, Stangs and Camaros have always been horrible (the mid engine Vette would probably be ok with more clearance). My Mustang was a joke without loading the trunk. I’m in a 92’ MB SL now I try to keep out of bad weather.
@@chosenideahandle With my chosen name it won't surprise you to learn that I have never owned a sports car but I certainly agree that there are massive differences in weight distribution and natural grip among RWD cars. Carrying sand bags and a small shovel in the trunk is never a bad idea. The better the winter tire the better the outcome holds true for any type of vehicle. Lastly, I remember when we only put snow tires on the drive (back) wheels so thank goodness people finally figured out the need for them on all four corners.
Right Lane Hog Who needs to steer anyways
@@larryxiang822 Strange but true.
11 years driving through midwest winters and I still have anxiety watching this.
his going too fast for the road condition
Too wide tires. Though stock size I would try to go narrower. Also I believe dunlops aren't a winter tyre maker? Nokias, michelins or continentals would propably do really well
@@cedie I disagree. Seeming that he has the car for 6 years already he knows how it drives, in snow too! He's Driving on snow tires, he can manage to safely stop in time, watch traffic, has enough distance to the driver in front of him and when he enters the roadway he limits the amount of ''drift'' so that he won't end up in the other lane. He only really gets on the gas when he's the only one on the road and no one near him.
If this was mid city with massive amounts of traffic, then yes he would be going too fast. But in these conditions, he has full control.
Don't watch it then..
It took me a while to realize you had traction control off lol
"this thing preforms great in the snow, its so fun to drive" - meanwhile, in a constant fishtale
Right lol. Confirmed not buying this car
That’s so funny 😂
Till you realize he had traction control off the whole time
That’s what makes it fun😂
LOL traction control is OFF but ok.
i drive my frs in the winter it is perfect
I would love to be outside and just see this thing sliding around everywhere
"Deep snow"
Laughs in Canadian
Laughs in St-John's, if you don't know what i'm talking about go search on goolge st johns snow storm that happened last week the whole city was in a state of emergency
@@xJM1993 dude i heard about it. rip. Take out your snow mobiles i guess
@@xJM1993 ive been living in mtl for almost 15 years and we never had a state of emergency lol we kinda used to it
@@ClashLAW_Nis they couldn't even be in the street because if they were caught it was a 1000$ fine...
Laughs in quebec
You're the first car youtuber I've ever stumbled across that's from the same town as me. You practically drove by my house in this video. Props to you for driving a Brz in Michigan winters. I opted for a Focus ST instead because I didn't think a Brz/370z could cut it here
best POV content on youtube
Well you haven't seen the OG POV content then. ;)
indeed it is!
@@ClashLAW_Nis who's that
RWD with winter tires is a blast. So many people are intimidated because they're used to FWD or AWD; honestly, the handling characteristics of a RWD make more sense intuitively than other drive types when you lose traction (even though you might lose it more frequently haha).
I think I woke my neighbors up laughing when you started talking casually about ground clearance while clearly losing control at 3:38. You’ve sold me man this shit is awesome.
😂learn from my mistakes. Go with skinny and extra tall tires!
How is he talking so calmly driving like that
Robb S because driving like that is genuinely easy. Controlling the vehicle is a lot easier than it looks. Looking at it, and feeling like a passenger is a nightmare, but sitting there in touch with the pedals and the wheels, it’s a phenomenally easy way to drive
You get used to it. You're reactions are all in the feel of the vehicle with the conditions.
@@sshah2545 so true. I played around with my sti while the gf is screaming her head off in the passenger.
ice and snow is usually really low speed, it's not like it takes split second reactions to keep control of the vehicle.
I don't like it, and I also have great fear driving with FWD in snow, I take downhill corners very slow. Luckily there was no snow this year here in middle Europe.
In dry I can drive as fast as I can and do anything dangerous and I still don't have that much fear as in snow. It's just a very unpredictable surface.
Turn your damn wipers off.. hearing them creak made me sad 😂
Agreed, dry wipe, yikes.
Hey man, I genuinly enjoy the snow drive drift/slide pov's! Please upload more, I always dream of buying a BRZ/86 and driving in the snow.
Man i love these snow videos.
10 minutes and 39 seconds of anxiety
And orgasm
This car is the most uncomfortable car to drive in snow. The driver says one thing but I see something completely different. It's like an accident waiting to happen. Would rather drive a FWD or AWD than RWD
@@Karen-pl8kd I agree. I have an 08 Tacoma 4x4 that I keep around just for such occasions.
@@Karen-pl8kd It's all about perspective. Snow driving you have so much time to react that sliding is almost childs play, anything you do the car takes forever to react to so it's really not hard. looked like 10 min of fun to me but i'm canadian.
@@0xsergy I'm from Ontario Canada. imagine taking this car to go to work and having to go through this everytime. I don't want to wrestle with the car, I just want to drive it with peace and it's much easier with a fwd or awd than this rwd.
Been waiting for a new BRZ winter update! Thank you!
I have Blizzaks on 16" rims. I feel 100% confident in the snow. 3rd winter with my FRS and it's super easy to drive
I was eventually planning on getting a BRZ and was curious on how much countersteering needs to be applied, and this helped so much! No crazy amounts of countersteer, and just the ocasional correction. Thank you so much!!
My 1st car was a 1964.5 Mustang. My Grandma bought it new in California. She moved in with us in 1968 and brought the car with her to the Chicago area. I took it over in 1976 as my 1st car. It was RWD but great in the snow. It was an automatic transmission but could start in 2nd gear from a dead stop in rain or snow. I drove that car in the blizzard of 1979!!! It was like driving a tank. With snow tires it was really great in the snow. Miss that car and Grandma too!!!
Thanks for sharing. I have an FRS in Ontario Canada and sometimes in 6 inches of snow, unplowed hilly roads I'm going up them at 45 degrees while everyone on the road waits for me. Snowy hilly winter roads get old quick!
it snowed at my place yesterday, turned off traction control on my BMW and had a blast. The car literally comes alive in the snow.
BRZ looks like so much fun in the snow. Another surprisingly good snow vehicle is a MINI Cooper with snow tires. That thing was almost unstoppable even in the middle of a whiteout Nor’easter/blizzard with unplowed roads. Snow tires rock. Not sure why more people don’t buy them!
Your a awesome driver man. Been watching your videos a lot lately because Im getting the new 86 soon.
I used to drive a '14 BRZ in Hokkaido. My colleagues who drove rx7 fd, fairlady z, miata, s2000, and I used to do touge runs in the snow back in the day. Best runs of my life.
Clearance and snow ploughing arent a problem. Most important mods are fresh winter tires. They're really not grippy once they've hardened due to age or poor care and wear.
stuck twice badly in the mountains with all seasons here in Colorado. Now running winter tire and oh boy it's totally different car on the snow
Mine is supercharged and still find it to be the best car ive ever owned in the winter. Ive never been stuck. commenting from canada.
Love this kind of driving, great vid
We used to have snow in winters here, in Europe , Latvia .. but not anymore.. rwd cars are the most fun in winter, so thank you for your video, atleast i can watch driving in snow. new sub. :)
Had it not been for this kind of weather every other week where I live in the winter, the BRZ was quite high on my list. I ended up getting a MK7 GTI, but now that I see this video I am a bit jealous. The GTI with my steel 16 inch wheels and Blizzaks is just not that much fun in the snow, because it just stays so put! (Which I will admit is great for getting me to work on time lol)
This video is the best argument for awd + snow tires for any winter midwestern driving.
thinking of dailying a 86 gt thanks for these videos lad
I think this is a really informative video. Thank you.
Im glad I don't have that much snow where I live, on the other hand I'd love to drift in my gt86
Greetings from Germany ✌🏼
I own a 2015 FR-S and one of the best tires i've had so far for winter are Toyo Celcius. And not to mention, they're also all season but work amazing in deep snow.
Lots of snow is always fun, crazy how much more understeer ive noticed in the rwd compared to what im used too (awd turbo) but its nice to see how well it kicks out to balance out, the awd is fun cause it gets rid of a lot of that understeer + gives u a little more momentum and speed coming into corners but can definitely cause a little more trouble coming out if u dont know how fast to take it/blind corners, but open roads/side streets it feels like a rwd, love the winter so much for driving haha
great vid! Love the 'sandbag' suggestion!!! Hey, that's we all drove in NE Ohio in the 70's and 80's. Thanks for sharing.
Am from west Michigan. That week was a lot of fun when we got that heavy snow. Now we have been sunny and and snowless for about a week and it honestly feels like early spring. But I’m looking forward to more snow time fun in the coming week
I work in downtown Detroit and ran my BRZ with 205/55R16 Blizzaks all last winter. Yes, it's manageable in the snow but at no point did I feel like it was a relaxing driving experience. I remember being sideways quite a lot if there was snow on the ground. I didn't crash or get stuck, though. This year, I have a 2008 Forester with Firestone Winterforce 2s, and it is obviously a huge step up in stability and traction. Once you've done both, you'll really appreciate why people get AWD SUVs (and winter tires!).
alright, now THIS has convinced me to get a BRZ. i have winters like this one every year, wanted to know if it was possible, now i know it is. thx.
I drove year round for 3 years with a Mustang GT 6MT (2015) including snow ~5-6 months of the year. Watching this video vaguely reminds me of how much of a pain in the ass it could be sometimes. It's doable, though. AWD is NOT necessary, but is sure is nice to be able to get moving pretty much all the time, lol.
Love your vids man, and thanks for the update, but at 1:41 that is looking pretty risky.
i def agree with this review for winter driving but my suggestion, if i might add is to get studded tires if you drive in canada where the winter is rough (like me) and it still drives amazingly
I'm on my third season with a set of pirelli ice zero FR on 16" wheels. I'm very happy with the tires performance. They will be replaced next season, right now they're around 50-60% wear.
The ice and snow traction is great but the dry feel and how quiet they were surprised me.
i am thinking of getting these but 17 what are your specs.
are they good tires from a dig
I just found this channel yesterday, and i've been addicted to watching your videos. I love your driving and the way you take corners. I seen that your favorite or atleast one of your favories is the honda type r, was wondering whats your personal driver?
he drives this BRZ and a Lexus LX 470 SUV, those are the cars that he and his wife own, but I guess he spends most of the time driving press cars from different manufacturers to do these videos, usually a different car every week
This vid brings memories. I had a 2013 FRS. Had it for 4 years, spend three winters in Odenton, MD. Never got it dedicated winters just all season performance. And it really was fun to drive. Trade it in for a 2020 MX5. Still miss it. Anyway. Researching about the 86 again thinking of getting another one. lol
4 winters in the Scottish highlands on 16” wheels and Dunlop winter sport 5 tyres driving a 60 mile round trip in a GT86/BRZ. No issues at all.
I've run Michelin X-ice xi3 on my 2018 Civic Hatch and they work amazing. They feel better below 50 than the Hankook Kinergy GT tires that came with the car. Shame this winter New York hasn't been snowing this much in winter.
I have a BRZ in Massachusetts it was scary at first but I added performance winter tires and added weight to the trunk during snow days, and so far never slid or ever gotten stuck
Would you recommend a new manual driver to drive with a RWD in winter? I’m in Minnesota and I’m looking for a gr86 in the future but we get a lot of snow so I’m just nervous
i’ve only ever driven in arizona and some heavy rain in utah and this is the scariest thing
Great Car!!
such a fun car. I love Subaru
How's it doing with rust since you've had it? I imagine there's a lot of salt on the roads in Michigan during winter
After getting frustrated that I can't find a BMW 228i/230i spec'd how I'd want one, I drove a 2017 BRZ. Really loved it and its near the top of my list. I survived in 5 Colorado winters with my 300ZX in college so I don't doubt the BRZ is just fine. If I buy one, first thing I'm doing is making it sound like a Subaru. :3
It already does stock, it's the same boxer in nearly every Subie.
What you really wanna do is put a new exhaust on it and make it sound like a mean Subaru.
I drive a rear wheel drive taco in Wisconsin, it’s a ton of fun 😎
Hey love the vids man! Nice to see a fellow Michigander enjoying the powder Lol where about in Michigan?
exactly what i expect. im in Michigan also. im still getting it. i had a manual chevy aveo. it was fwd, ut it was so light wait, it was like rwd in a way
In the 1970s unless you had a Beetle or 4 wheel drive truck, you had rear wheel drive. Most bought 2 snow tires, especially because the summer tires had very little traction even in rain. Walmart sells plastic traction mats for the ground, and long zip ties that go around the drive tires. I had hours of fun practicing sliding sideways in empty parking lots with a 1969 Chevy Impala with a 327 smallblock V8. See the April issue of Consumer Reports magazine at a library for winter tire ratings- I like Pirelli tires for how quiet they ride and how long they last, with good traction.
Live in upper New Mexico near Colorado border, we only get rain that doesn’t even freeze. 😫
Awesome. I’m running stock size Hankook I-Pike W419 on my FR-S and having great fun in Toronto winter. I usually start off in second gear.
Rip your transmission
MAKAVELI HOMICIDE My transmission is fine been driving in the snow and tracking it since 2014. 120k kms. On original clutch as well.
How so Mr. Homicide?
As long as your not starting in 2nd, literally every single time, theres gonna be no trans damage
I'll keep my Crosstrek! I live in the "Snow Belt" south of Buffalo, NY and I don't think I'd like the BRZ in the winter. Great Video!
@@cwbgaming8913 Ya, this winter has had the least snow in years!....I'm not complaining!😊
I wonder if this is the storm that's heading towards me. I'm in eastern Ontario and we're supposed to get a bit of freezing rain, and 15 cm of snow.
Hope my Buick with my all seasons and failing transmission can handle it lmao.
I see quite a few people in my city winter driving mustang's, BRZs, Miata, 911s etc.
Possibly. Living in Alaska for over a decade now (came from Michigan area), and there are tons of people even here that drive sports cars in the winters. I've seen Mustang's, Miata's, Charger's Corvettes, etc.
@@27Zangle why in the winter
Dude i saw a fuckin challenger in northern Ontario.. A FUCKIN CHALLENGER. Not even an AWD. That car is hard to launch on warm tarmac..
@@thatdude123 - No idea for some people. I do think its awesome. Some of them are woman who clearly have trucks but prefer to drive their muscle cars in the winter. Alaska is an odd place at times. However, to be honest I drove a 1985 Iroc on summer tires one winter. Did just fine taking my time.
Dude that's crazy. I heard that the drivers in Ontario just suck. But they may just be crazy if they put winter tires on a Miata or 911 in the winter...IN ONTARIO 🤔
Very off topic and not sure if you'd be interested, but I'd HIGHLY recommend the Diode Dynamics Always On Module. It keeps the DRLs and Boomerangs on all the time and it really makes the front end come together. For $60 I think you might like it 😁
"Laughs in Finnish at your tires"
Nice
Those snow tire don't look like very good to me
I agree, those tires aren't winter tires, more like a bad imitation of winter tires. Try Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3 or R2, those are actual winter tires without studs that should be legal in Michigan too.
Love my WRX but my 02 and 05 Outback could almost go through anything that extra bit of ground clearance helps alot with deep snow.
This car is son fun to drive in the winter here in Quebec, it has almost no problem at all going from A to B in any conditions. I say almost cause it's pretty slow to start moving when going from a complete stop when there's snow (like in your video), but as soon as it gained speed everything is good.
That and i got stuck in my driveway the orher day (🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️) but we had like 30cm of snow that day and i was out having some fun with the car whe the storm started so it was already packed with snow when i parked it so i guess that one dosen't count ahhah
All in all i have never had as much fun with a car during winter as i'm curently having
You made that look really difficult. Ours was so much more planted in the snow, using Dunlop Winter Sports.
Because he decided to take traction control off
If you run some very light polishing compound on your windshield, it will get rid of most, if not all of your wiper blade noise! Nu Finish works perfectly for this.
Dude,I daily driver a built 98 lincoln mark8 in ironwood mi. The U.P and with just 2 bricks in the trunk and all reason tires had no problems . I never got stuck once
You are awesome
I just drove 10km in a foot of snow in my FRS, (more then a foot by the time I got home) studded tires of course. Was worried here and there, well the entire time honestly..storm..2am..Canada. Finally got stuck in the drive way.
I wish it would snow like that where I live...i have an sti that would b alot of fun
It’s fuckin scary up here in Canada bro. People will have slow ass crashes with these types of cars cuz they just cannot stop
I see BRZ / 86 owner, I subscribe.
Getting 215/45/17 Michelin Alpin 6 for my 2018 GT86. Buying a used spare set of 86 wheels for them to.
Finally I'm early!!!
Test drive the 2020 Camry TRD next!
I made the mistake of doing this downhill then had a very hard time going back up and keeping the car from keep on sliding down the hill. It was steep and I had all season tires.
Bought a 15' brz as my first ever manual car back in november, bought myself some Blizzaks and winter doesnt scare me one bit now, i live in Quebec, Canada so snow is to be expected
Salut, comment ca a été avec la brz? Pas pire quand meme en hiver? Je regarde pour une brz mais a voir la video du gars ca a lair de rusher un peu =/
@@ASecureLab Moi jdis achete le char tu veux, l'hiver ca change rien tant que t'as du pas pire ground clearance. J'ai gardé la hauteur stock pis j'ai pas été cheap sur les pneus d'hiver. J'ai pris les haccapeliitas de nokian (1200 environ ) pis j'ai eu aucun problème pendant l'hiver. Pas besoin de sac de sables en arrière. Si tu conduis intelligement t'aura pas de problème. Pis c'est tellement le fun, jamais été pogné. Ce que jte conseille c'est des "bear claws" au cas ou tu reste pris. Des genre de grille de métal avec des chaines pour te sortir dla marde. Pis avec ca t'es prêt pour rider 😉
ty for the info! i'll be driving one in the winter and i live in mtl. i've been worried about driving it in the snow, but from this video and the comments (including yours) it seems it'll be okay as long as i get some good winter tires on.
i saw beck road didnt know you were driving in canton lol at 7:18 min i knew exactly where you whereby Plymouth highschool
I run high performance all seasons, but have a aero to improve grip. I used to barely go over 50 mph when it rains extremely heavily. Like see maybe 20ft ahead of you heavy. With aero I could do 80 mph easily. I also used to avg like 33 mpg, but now am at 27. Also, with the traction control off, did you do the pedal dance or use a tuner to go 100% off or hit the buttons on the console?
Any recommendations for winter tires other than these?
I’m in New Jersey so we rarely actually get proper snow, just cold and rain and crap like that
I didn't even think you were going to make it past the light man..
Anti-“consumorous driving” Love it. Wish more people would treat like it.
I have a FWD lowered hatch on eibach springs. No diff and tiny clearance is a tough combination. This year in Ukraine we had literally meters of snow. I was still going everyday. Shovel and planks in a trunk, 30 min more in the morning and you’re good to go. Requires bravery and skill, but it’s fun in some ways))
I would still pick the best possible winter tyre not minding about dry and wet performance. Blizzak, ContiViking, Hakkapelita. Summer tires still will be better on hard surfaces even in -5 (Celsius ) . So having that on separate rims,you’re free to change it whenever needed reducing time driving on winters “just in case”
Nice BRZ )
what part of michigan are you in because we have a good amount of hills haha
Getting through the intersection towards the beginning was making me nervous lol
Dude! You have a real set of you know whats... I bought a 2020 RF I'd never take it out in snow!
In Estonia
we have no snow!?
I will never drive RWD in the snow again. I had 2 Mustangs that I drove year round in Connecticut for 8 years.. I always had Blizzaks for the winter, but it was still always a stressful experience, especially when the tires already had one season on them. So far I drove in snow twice in my current car which is a GTI and it was much less stressful even on 70% worn all seasons. Definitely getting snows next winter.
Yeah, no doubt rwd is more stressful but this car is much lighter, better balanced and nimbler than a mustang, also having significantly lower power also helps 🤷♂️
In Germany we would never ever have that snowed up roads. There are always multiple vehicles cleaning up the snow.
And they put salt on every bit of street so no accidents hapen. I would love to drive on big snowy places
Two types of people in the comments: those who live for this slipperiness, and those who are afraid of it. Nothing dangerous about this...
am i the only one who really enjoys driving my twin through winter? i legit look forward to it. i got some cheap chinese winter tires and they suck, but thats the fun part of having them. you can slide at 30mph and keep the slide goin for days
You sir have balls XD and here I am just getting scared shitless when my job has me go through hills all over
@@Cheese533 haha hills are an issue for sure! but its a learning experience that teaches you how to handle tough situations on the road.
@@allowe5236 tru tru, on awd with an Impreza 2.5 but I still want me a brz
Just drove in snow today on Blizzaks. I drove with both traction on and then traction (and stability control?) off, and it is so much better with it off. When it's on.. I find that the car will keep sliding left and right as the TC kicks in, so it felt unsafe. With it off, you might slide one way but it's much more controllable. It kinda sucks from a stop with TC off, but once you get going, there's a bunch of grip. Ground clearance is my only issue (at stock height).
you wouldnt find me dead driving that in snow
I have those Dunlop WinterMaxx on my fiance's Sentra. To be honest, it outperforms my Forester on Hankook I-Pike RW11s (snow tires) in all ways. They're either really good or the Hankooks are that bad.
You mentioned sand bags --- but do you have them?
I really have wanted a brz or a special edition 86 but here in colorado atleast where I live the snow comes in HARD and it almost never gets cleaned and it gets comoressed to the point you are driving on a thick cap of ice. So im worried about buying a brz.
I miss winter driving so much, I would sideway my way to work on my tiny RWD shitbox, and even go back on some streets if there were "great turns" that didn't deserve to go undrifted
What is the 2021 Subaru BRZ had 280 HP
nice brz but i think you got wrong kind of subaru..
i had a wrx it was a blast to drive in snow !!
Were you driving without traction control on ??