Grain Free Dog Food...Dangerous?
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- Grain-free dog food has been linked to a heart condition called dilated cardiomyopathy. For now, we're recommending you feed a food which contains grains until researches can determine the exact cause.
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Question: Is it the lack of grains that are causing these dogs illnesses? Or is it all the other crap that they use to substitute for grain?
so far the investigation is leading that grain free is being poor on things that dogs need from resources of meat. some of the grain free is like vegetables only and that is a no no.
in my case my dog developed food allergy to corn which is being used indiscrimenatlely. So currently I'm finishing the bag of kibbles from HIlls that has corn on the first 3 ingredientes but mising it with chicken broth (chicken, rice and carrots, no other ingredients) and when I finish it, switching it to the wet version that does not have corn at all. I have other that was suppose to help her with her stomach, but that ones is is basically corn, corn stuff, corn stuff in the first 3 ingredientes I just dropped that to trash. Seems she is kinda okay with rice and barley. but still her food has to have meat in it.
It's hard to believe that would be the only contributor to the problem, sounds like the Hills and Purina are looking to reclaim the market share more than anything since they came out with their own grain free versions of kibble, why would they if it's apparently so bad and causing problems?
DCM is often breed specific so if your dog has a higher chance of getting it I'd say be cautious, but nothing is ever black or white.
Personally, grain free Acana + raw and home cooked seems to work for us, all allergies and gut issues have cleared up for my doggo since incorporating living foods.
My pitbull lived to be 16. I only fed her merrick grain free for many years. I don’t see how grain free would cause this condition. I also know that veterinarians are always trying to push science diet and eukanuba and purina
After long term studies, grain free food affects certain breeds the most by them developing this heart disease.
I say certain breeds in particular because my concern is mutts.
How do we know if it affects our dogs if we don't know their exact breed heritage.
Although I'm not a fan of those Vet reccomended diets.
Hill's Science diet alone had more recalls than natural balance and Purina combined.
Merrick had been the best for me so for, but I add grains, and I cook for my dog about 10% of the time, with added grains.
I've seen improvement in her stool, allergies, and happiness.
I raised her since she was 5 days old, I know this pup. She's 3 now.
I agree my pets all had issues on grains.
We went grain free and their health dramatically changed!
Dogs do not eat wheat and corn in the wildZ
Dogs would eat grains in the wild! Not a lot, partially digested grains from killed animals that do eat grains. Such as rabbits, rats, chickens etc. But just not a lot!
Which grain? Defenately not wheat! But oats. Oats are simply amazing. My dogs being fed barf, get an oatmeal, once or twice per forthnight. Soak the rolled oats for 5-10 min in hot water. When soft, tip water out, add full cream fresh milk, 2-3 egg yolks, 1-2 tblsp natural yoghurt, one teaspoon of olive oil, to fortyfigh the milk and voila you got a healthy grain meal.
@@CeliaCavalli Dogs would eat grains in the wild! Not a lot, partially digested grains from killed animals that do eat grains. Such as rabbits, rats, chickens etc. But just not a lot!
Which grain? Defenately not wheat! But oats. Oats are simply amazing. My dogs being fed barf, get an oatmeal, once or twice per forthnight. Soak the rolled oats for 5-10 min in hot water. When soft, tip water out, add full cream fresh milk, 2-3 egg yolks, 1-2 tblsp natural yoghurt and voila you got a healthy grain meal.
Literally in the FDA article on DCM they wrote that there is no proof of causation in the relationship between Grain Free and DCM.
At this point in time yes, But they also said they were going to continue to research it. It noteworthy that they did NOT stop the research.
Actual scientific LONG term studies can't be determined until after 15-20 years of research, and even beyond that can come more side effects.
So ultimately, because grain free food is such a new thing on the market (even if its 10yrs old its considered new for long term studies), we cannot ultimately determine all accurate side effects or consequences of diets or even drugs, this goes for human pharmaceuticals too.
We will continue to learn new information as time goes on, and I do believe we may find things that will shock some pet owners and make them change their minds about their pets diets and lifestyles, at least I hope so.
@@F19_33 This is so true! It is crazy how everyone is jumping the gun about grain free foods and how they “cause DCM”. Hopefully we can get some actually data on the subject. All that it is right now is a theory. The whole FDA study was backed by Purina, and majority of the dogs they studied were already prone to DCM due to genetics. Also, majority of the dogs they studied were golden retrievers who are also more prone to DCM.
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My 7 year old male Samoyed was diagnosed with Cardiomyopathy last week. His energy levels had plummeted over several months. He had been fed grain free Orijen since we adopted him when he was one. The vet told us to immediately cease grain free and has him on heart meds and other supplements. If you google "grain free dog diet FDA" you will find more information. We had thought we were doing more for our baby and gladly paid more for this premium food. Crushed at the moment and hoping for the best.
I am sorry to hear that Bob! It happens to the best of us sometimes. Your boy sounds like he is in good hands with you!
Cook for your dog
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i hope you and your dog are doing well.. any suggestions on a normal food then thats quality as well?
Try raw diet . It may work for u..
Thank you for this video . This has happened to my baby . I’m working with the cardiologist now to save my dogs life .
I would like to see you do more videos on various pet topics like hip dysplasia, etc
Good video
Obviously given my 1-year late reply, time has been short for me. But that’s the plan! Hoping yo branch out into specific diseases and disease management. Stay tuned!
My thought is: could it be because of something the industry is adding to make up for the lack of grains in those particular products (like potatoes and legumes) or is this issue linked to a deficiency given directly by the lack of grains? I feed one of my dogs with a barf diet, should I maybe add some grains to the mix?
It causes low tourine
That gives them enlarged heart😨
In August 2021, researchers from Tufts University published a study that indicated that peas may be a leading dog food ingredient contributing to a rise in diet-associated canine heart disease (DCM) in dogs.10 Aug 2021
Here we are a year and a half later. Grain free is probably more popular yet no increase or even another update on this? It would be interesting to compare the differences. What does grain have that legumes don’t? Just because you can only find one link, doesn’t mean there is only one link.
In August 2021, researchers from Tufts University published a study that indicated that peas may be a leading dog food ingredient contributing to a rise in diet-associated canine heart disease (DCM) in dogs.10 Aug 2021
My shiba has been eat grain free dog food (Merrick and fromm) since he was very young. Now he is 2 years old, and he was diagnosed with hear murmurs( leavel 3) recently. I think grain free food maybe is one of the reasons. Switching to none grain free food and I will see if there are any changes.
Update?
@@itsxlj3034 fee fee has passed away
My dog had terrible seasonal/skin allergies, burning itchy ears and she was very miserable, I tried different kibble and results were negligible but her poop was a horror to scoop on kibble with grain,
she does do better on grain free overall if I were to compare kibble with rice, wheat, corn.
Since May (5months now) I incorporated raw for her dinners(can't afford to go fully raw) + home cooked leftovers from whatever we eat (less the sauces, potatoes and starchy foods etc). I feed her cooked eggs and raw sardines, her skin has tightened (used to be very loose), coat is shiny and her energy levels are thru the roof, and her ears are no longer burning hot!
There is science in feeding dogs what they ate for centuries before getting their 'cereal' style brown morsels that's highly processed, stripped of its nutrition, Feed your dogs and cats as much real food as you can and watch them thrive.
Yes, I know there's no money in that for Purina - oh well 😉
This video doesn’t really address the issue. What about raw diets that are grain free? That is the best diet for dogs as recommended by vets and animal experts, so by extension, why is grain free dog food suddenly considered less safe than cheap dog food stuffed with fillers that you buy off the shelves of Walmart ? I’d probably like to ask who is funding these studies? Iams? Purina?
thank you!
My dog is extremely picky, she came from a really abusive home and when I got her she wouldn't eat at all, I tried her on multiple foods raw, kibble, wet, but I've only been able to get her to eat one and its grain free so all this kind of scares me. Shes a Siberian husky and refuse to eat anything else.
i heard it depends on the dog " BREED " , i heard husky need more PROTEIN
My dog was the same, to get her to start eating grain foods. I would cook up chicken breast shred it and mix it in with her food. After a while she would eat the dry food without any added benefits
IM IN THE SAME SITUATION 😭
Im in the same situation as well. I adopted my siberian husky 4 years ago. Been feeding him Kirkland natural domain grain free. And he loves it for some reason. He won't eat grain kibbles whatsoever.
I had a rottweiler. Never had grain free food. Always Royal Canin and Pro Plan. Yet he developed cardio myopathy and I had to let him put down. So, can there still be an other explanation for dcm?
absolutely there can be another explanation. people have to realize that there is no scientific evidence that dcm is caused by grain free, plus the entire original “study” was funded by purina when the makers of orijen and acana (considered the best kibble on the market) wouldn’t let purina buy them out. it’s a really bad situation because they’re scaring everyone when there’s no actual link between them. plus the legumes being used in the kibble are just for a binding agent to keep the kibbles together. so there is hardly any in there. hope this helps!
DCM is caused or is influenced by the lack of L-carnithine and/or taurin in pets diets ...it is a malnutrition favored condition but not because no grain or grain kibble
@@mellillaa4863 wrong. When they are the second or third ingredient there is a lot
@@hammertime4257 they’re always going to be lower than the meat, after the main ingredients, being meats, percentages get very very small. no one puts legumes in as an essential ingredient because that’s not essential for their diet. it’s mainly a binding agent as i said.
My theory is the pesticides/herbicides/fertilizers being used on certain vegetable ingredients are somehow thinning the tissue in the heart's lining.
Incorrect. If that was true humans would dying left right and centre.
@@k12rising a 230lb human absorbs trace chemicals vastly differently than a 40lb canine, in addition to our digestive systems being vastly different as well. I'm open to criticism but I think this is a poor comparison.
My gosh him recommending hills, Purina and royal canine you can see he almost sweating trying to sound convincing - he knows full well what garbage is in those 'science' diets lol
1100-1200 reported cases of DCM out of well over 50 million dogs in the US. The report literally says dcm was found in both grain and grain free. This guy is biased 100% and I could’ve guessed he was gonna pick purina and hills for the recommended foods 😂 these companies have strong relationships with the vet associations and will do anything to keep their nasty food selling. Grain food=cheapest fillers to keep bottom line low
Doesn't make much sense if really think about it. Grain free dog food is simply dog food without grain ingredients in it. So to me, it sounds like because it is grain free, the dog food doesn't supply the dogs with that fiber or protein it would get if it was getting with grain based ingredients. So really all they would have to do, is add in some fiber and protein into their products to make up for the loss of grain nutrients that the dogs needs to stay healthily. Which makes me wonder why not just add a little meat into the product? It wouldn't give it fiber, but it would give it protein. As for the fiber, they could use vegies instead of grain. Which makes you wonder why they didn't do this in the first place. Why would they think its ok to take out grain but not make up for the loss of nutrients? Not just that, but why was it allowed to be sold knowing it was lacking those nutrients? Sounds like a lawsuit to me, I would not be surprised if many people sue the shit out of them for this. Not just because of the prices of the food, but for the damages caused to their pets.
The problem lies in kibble feeding day after day..year after year... Yes kibble need a statch to bind the mix into a long term solid piece ... all these companies entered the Pet Food business looking to feed higher protein dog diets, yet none subjected there food to AAFCO feed trial tests... instead they formulated their foods. Formulations need no testing to be sold in the USA... the reason Pro Plan can have what looks to be inferior ingredients and still give long life and superior nutrition is data... long term feeding trial tests... that measure urine, fecal, and blood-work...
If you fed an All Life Stage food that is feed trial tested, it means for a solid year it provided health for a dog ranging to a pup to a nursing Mom...
If the Fda wants to be involved...make it mandatory all diets are FEED TRIAL TESTED !
FDA needs to be involved in flea and tick control too. Absolutely ridiculous how many pets die from Hartz brand and the brand still sold anyway
You know why feeding trials fell out of public favor right? Google IAMS fines for welfare violations
Interesting, I feed my dogs taste of the wild. Am thinking of changing up the food. Any recommendations?
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Taste Of The Wild has an Ancient Grain line of food. Not all Taste Of The Wild food is Grain Free
@@TheDjsupermix raw is the best!!..
this guy lost me at " Purina".
While Purina pro plan has low carbs(36 percent? Most diets are chicken based I would recommend Stella & chewys it has 30% carbs the lowest you will find in a kibble and has excellent ingredients. The best will always be raw food but in kibble Stella ir instinct are best ( I work at a pet store btw I’m around dog food ALL DAY)
Stella and chewys kibble is very good! One of the very few kibbles that are baked! Which is a less intrusive process compared to other methods used to make kibble. But I will say there are lower carb foods on the market that are just as good.
@@chasemccaulley1669 there are aren’t many instinct is one fo the only ones it has 29% carbs all the others are 30-50 , I think Purina has like 40
@@ivetteberuvides1187 Orijen is lower
Working at a pet store means nothing other than you’re seeing variety. 🤷🏼♀️
Darn, I recently switched my dog to Orijen cause she wouldn’t eat the other foods we tried. Only thing is Orijen doesn’t make food with grain. What should I do?
Corey Rene buy a taurine supplement. Current supposition is it’s a lack of taurine causing DCM.
Also; don’t panic. Yes cases have been linked to grain free diets. But look at the numbers. The chances are very slim at present.
That’s why there are no firm conclusions yet; the study group is too small.
My theory is that we’re only just now seeing an increased instance because of the timing of the grain free fad.
It’s only now that enough dogs have been fed grain free for long enough to see results.
So get a taurine supplement, add to your dog’s meals and sit tight and wait for better scientific answers. The taurine won’t do any harm as long as you dose according to instructions. And may well do a lot of good.
Corey keep feeding Orijen I feed it to my dog. It’s the best dog food available. Don’t listen to this crap about grain fee foods being bad
@@JoeyT1 and oddly it's for the large breed that tends to have cardiomyopathy anyhow. Since there are NO real guidelines for dog food I feel this is just damage control for the corn-based dog food companies which are hurting because people are sick of overweight diabetic dogs eating their carb-laden cheap to produce food which make a TON of money.
Hey Corey, D. Sherlock is right to not panic. It is a small percentage of dogs on grain-free foods who develop this issue. I just released a new video about the latest info we have. It's difficult to give people a blanket statement of what to do as we don't know the exact cause. That's why I tell people, feed what you feel is right and keep an eye out for symptoms (coughing, tiredness, lack of energy, etc.). Otherwise choose another high quality diet which does contain grain until we can figure out what's going on. It's better your dog eat something than nothing obviously haha. Hope you and your pup are well!
Please put your dog into raw diet . You will see results in just a week's and your dog will be healthy for the rest of his/her life.
Purina? Royal canin I don't think so
They put corn and fillers dogs should stay away from
The United States Food and Drug Administration recently announced reports of canine dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM) in dogs eating certain pet foods, particularly grain-free diets, containing high levels of potatoes or legumes seeds such as peas, lentils or beans.19 Jul 2018
How about recommending low carbohydrate foods both hills and sconce diet have 50 percent carbs
Hill's makes Science Diet, they're not two different brands or companies.
They've also had more recalls than Merrick and Natural Balance combined, bad recalls too.
I will never feed my dogs Hill's again.
Not buying what this guy is saying. Vets financially benefit by selling hills dog foods not to mention the marked-up drugs they sell. This is a HUGE conflict of interest and if human doctors did this they would be shot. I have seen some of the WORST food allergies, and infected from licking paws, cured by feeding them good raw foods or homemade foods. If they mass market it in a grocery store, I would not buy it. Way to much profit from crap ingredients. If they want sixty dollars for a bag of dog food why the heck not just buy them some food with your own?
Thanks for the response! The margins on pet food and medications are slim to none nowadays, and my clinic carries very little food in stock because it's more expensive for it to sit there and take the time for my staff to account for it. I don't benefit from Hill's or Purina in any way. The chewy, Petsmarts, etc. of the world have practically eliminated this as a source of revenue for vets anyway. As far as our drugs, I had someone ask for a written prescription the other day so they could get it at a human pharmacy and the medication cost 4x what we could sell it for. There are a few animal specific drugs I wish were cheaper so I could help more pets, but I have no control over them as it's the suppliers who set prices. Also I don't know if you recall the Epipen or insulin crisis in human medicine recently, but human medicine has it worse in the world of drug markups because they know people must have these medications....it's sad.
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The best food for your dog or cat is a balanced home cooked food.
Only if you really know what you're doing.
Don't cook for you pets at home without a vets advice and 100% confidence with a truly balanced diet for dogs or whatever pet you're cooking for. A dogs diet may be similar to ours but there's a lot people don't realize that dogs need certain things that we don't and vice versa. For just one example, bones. Bone broth or RAW bones are necessary for dogs and cats. Never ever ever feed cooked bones.
I would suggest just making your own bone broth. Buy meats for your dogs with bone in, instead of throwing away the bones boil them, don't cook the meat with the bone, cut it off the bone, cook the meat, then separately boils the bone to make a stock, remove and discard the bones and strain through a fine strainer or cheesecloth to remove impurities.
If you're interested in shopling big box stores, Merrick makes a great bone broth for dogs. Its kinda pricey, but making it at home can be work, and it has to be in their daily diet.
Raw diet
The reason for grain free food is, that low quality grain is/was used for dog food. In Europe, this often contrains pesticides, infestation and even mold and these led to a varirity of symptoms.
I can't disagree.
But you can always add your own grains of you're concerned for more affected breed type/unknown breeds and mutts.
I will add some oats here and there, but I'm sure there's more we can use.
@@F19_33 Parsnip, pumpkin, millet, sweet potato, hemp oil, carrots, whole grain rice, salmon oil - all very good for dogs.
75% meat, 25% vegetables..
That really is NOT the reason at all. It's fad-thinking and marketing.
10 years ago, some dog food contained high quality grain and some contained low quality grain.
The low quality grain was so bad, that it even caused digestive problems and illnesses - in opposite to high quality grain.
Since then, alot of dog food manufacturers use the term "grain free".
However, there are still no regulations in place and you can still find dog food mixed with low quality grain, that contains pesticides, infestation and even mold.
You can also find dog food with high quality grain, that is very healthy for dogs - but normally its much more expensive, then the average dog food. Its the same grain, that is used for human food production. Low quality grain may not be used in human food production, at all.
Does grain free help with yeast infections ?
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Is it the pea protein causing the problem? All the grain free foods are made with pea protein instead of corn . The corn causes diabetes and pea must be damaging the heart? Or is it the lack of fat so the dog can’t make use of the protein?
No. The problem is that some dogs are predisposed to that ailment. If you feed dogs Purina, science diet, Royal Canin etc., that like feeding your dog McDonalds every day
Hey Joan, thanks for the comment! I just released a video containing new info from FDA research, and peas and lentils are certainly what we're looking at now as a potential cause! Fat content has been analyzed in all the diets and hasn't been found to be any different than historic diets when we didn't have this problem, so unlikely. Hope you and your pets are well!
Is BARF diet the best?
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My 12 yo Shepard corgi mix has been diagnosed with this heart condition yesterday by the vete. Was told to stop feeding my dogs with the Blue Buffalo grain free food. His condition is not good.
Give him tourine supplement
grain free food causes low tourine
So sorry to hear that. My thoughts are with you and your pup!
Thank you thank you thank you
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I fed my 18.5 yr old mixed terrier fresh lamb chops with fat cut off and onions fried on top😱That was b4 the onions are BAAAD info and he grew up barely unwell and died from old age.
Pets are like us, if genetics have a role then it's not going to change their propensity to certain illnesses.. we used to feed dogs as dogs in 1950's and they loved it &lived up near 20+... all the crap added to reduce costs have resulted in our pets dying younger.... I'm angry that they're not as protected like Children are... and yet for alot of people they are our furkids...
I'm giving my CHI pup lamb chops raw NO ONION and fruit plus brocolli and dry freeze treats made in Australia never China. He's healthy and happy..solid but not fat. I give Royal Canin puppy kibble only once a week and try very his foods by steaming chicken as well. I buy meat for humans only, never pet food as never know how fresh the meat was that was added...
If my dog refuses to eat something, I observe and won't feed it to him. They are intelligent and I've watched him nearly backflip at canned dog food so lol I never bought it again. Keep the diet varied and not just grain free or with grains. Like humans a varied diet is what i give .
You can't die of old age
You die of a condition
Why demonize grain free if it's the legumes . Basic dog food has been killing dogs slowly for years. I believe my dog was a victim of this issues.
In general i don't mind grain in my dog food, but my current dog grain makes him hella fat. The moment I remove grain from his diet he starts going back to a balanced weight. He was getting fat to the point where it was embarrassing, but zero grain? Consistent and healthy. The same goes for my cat.
This is the problem I'm having as well with my American Pitbull Terrier. I even cut his food back to 2 cups a day and it's not helping much... He's a large dog I'm not cutting good portions back, so I bought him taste of the wild.
I'd suggest a grain free food, and add your own grain like plain oats for example, and use it every other day, or every other feeding.
Grain does make them gain weight and depending on the breed could cause heart issues in the future. That's again why I suggest a personally maintained grain intake for your dog. Depending on their age, breed, weight, and activity level, grain should be monitored, as well as proteins and fats, especially for a puppy's transition into adulthood.
I personally think all dogs diets can be based off of their breeds. Not all dogs are just like wild wolves.
Although I'm not a vet, I've worked with animals my whole life, wild or domestic, but you can always learn something from someone. I always suggest a vets opinion, and maybe even more than one if you're concerned about your pet.
My aussiedoodle gets sick from grain free food
Why blame grain free dog food, and not be particular in certain ingredients that maybe causing the issue? A lot of owners that hear and read this will automatically switch to shitty food like you mentioned: "Purina, Hill's Science, Royal Canin", and maybe even worst food out there that contains nothing but grains and by products. I'm still not convince that grain free food is causing the issue, and until then will stick to common sense. I think Purina, Hill's Science, and Royal Canin are the lobbyist in this new trend.
The ingredients linked to DCM are legumes & potatoes. While it isn’t only grain-free that are using these as main ingredients, they are the ingredients grain-free foods are using in the place of grains. I have fed my dog grain free for years, but now that I’ve looked into these studies I’m questioning what to feed, the alternatives are brands I have been conditioned to avoid. Marketing at its finest.
@@alexusk97 It's all marketing. Don't believe everything you see and hear.
Hey Tou Fu Xiong, thanks for checking out the video! Purina, Hill's Science Diet, and Royal Canin are far from poor quality products. That being said, yes there are plenty of alternative diets which are just as acceptable out there in today's day and age. The only reason I mention those is that those are the diets I'm aware of how much research is behind them. There's absolutely no evidence they're poor (that being said I agree that Purina Dog Chow vs Purina Proplan is a huge difference). And I'm not blaming grain free food, currently the evidence points to "grain free, boutique, and exotic dog foods" as the culprit. Once we have a specific ingredient to blame we can go from there, but that's what the research is currently working toward. As for "lobbyists" I receive no money from these companies (or actually from my UA-cam channel at this time whatsoever...too small) nor do any veterinarians or vet schools that I know. The only thing I have ever received from these companies is a free dinner to hear what prescription diets they've released (I don't know about you but I wouldn't sell myself out to someone who just gave me free food). Also the term "by-product" is rather funny as there are plenty of "by-products" in other foods they just call them by names like heart, liver, kidney, etc. to make them sound more fancy and appropriate...those are actually all by-products. Anyway, I wish you and your pets the best, and am certainly not here to argue as I work very hard to only report the facts I'm aware of to both my clients and pet families everywhere! Thanks!
@@petdocsherlock5301 If Purina, Hill's Science Diet, and Royal Canin has done so much research and makes a lot of money; why do they have recalls, and their foods have made some pets ill. The evidences that they are poor is by reading the labels, doing some research, and using common sense. Why all the push and support for Purina. Purina also produces Grain-Free and exotic foods, but no one bashes them; and some of their food comes from China. I understand that there are a lot of things going on here, and nothing is perfect. We'll just have to wait and see what happens next on DCM. We all love our pets, and I feel deeply sorry for the people who feed their dogs Purina Dog Chow. Even you know the differences between Dog Chow and Pro Plan. Thank you for making this video, and replying back to me.
@@petdocsherlock5301Doc, you are correct that some organ meats are considered byproducts. Do you think they are using quality organ meats that they can actually label individually on the label in pet food or the stuff they can't sell for anything else? My guess is the ladder.
Not to mention how carb heavy those foods are. Then the grain they use is not even whole grains in most of them it's the left over crap from human food processing. Next you will tell me corn gluten is a high quality ingredient and the use of 4d meats is ok.
We have to feed our dog grain free because she is so highly allergic to it. She will eat her skin almost off. digging into her self to the point she bleeds.
One of the biggest risks for dogs is obesity, so if grains (carbs) are a big cause to that, why would I not go grain free? Any good dog food does not put a celebrity on the cover. And the study that took place on DCM was backed by Purina, and was done on dogs who already had a high disposition to DCM.
the differences in the dog genetics are just there sizes and functions from breeding.
Dilated cardiomyopathy is not caused by diet though. Its usually idiopathic or viral
in fact DCM is caused or is influenced by the lack of L-carnithine and/or taurin in pets diets ...it is a malnutrition favored condition but not because no grain or grain kibble ... less grain and more in wichever state the owner prefers it, in general contains those naturally
@ProgramKing not true. I work in Cardiology. Many idiopathic cases are believed to be virally induced. Same with myocarditis and pericardial effusions.
@ProgramKing honestly, they wouldnt know if it was viral. We only know it about humans because they can tell us they were feeling sick.
I know there is a link, but it doesnt make any sense that a food or lack of grains would cause CMP. My only guess is that the study is wrong or certain chemical was used in these foods. BUT if they CAN figure it out, that might help us understand human CMP too, because its almost always idiopathic
@ProgramKing you wouldnt know. In people there are no symptoms or they were just a little sick prior, like a cold. Your pet likely wouldnt show symptoms.
But, the viral thing in humans is still not even 100%, its just another liklihood
@ProgramKing BULL SHIT
Okay so the real question is “is commercial dog food good for your dog?”
hell no!! I feed raw the benefits I've seen are amazing!
kibble freaking foods have expire date in about 4-5 years! What about tha?
My shiba inu was allergic to corn, wheat, soy, beef, most byproducts and this was the only reason why I put him on grain free.
I've known for years since this type of food came out, to counter act this I began to make my own canned food which had a mixture of white and brown rice also steel cut oats.
When i would make this I made sure to add more of this these then the other ingredients, so in the homemade canned food it consisted of organic pork, green bean, carrots, peas, 100% pure pumpkin, strawberries, wild blueberries, red and black raspberries, all of these ingredients are completely fine and healthy for your dog.
For whomever reads this theres probably the question as to why cant he have gain in dog food but can eat what we do without a problem. For instance he couldnt have beef in his food but I could cook a steak for him and nothing happened.
My guess would be the quality of what is being used, my vet whom I've trusted for years had a hard time figuring it out because it didnt add up but when I mentioned quality difference it made more sense.
All the brand that this guy has listed has been killing dogs for a long time and has many recalls, my dog food of choice is nutritious source, this brand is not a mass produced food, everything in is from the United states and it's the only one I trust.
The best thing to do is make sure that your sog food says made in the United states because foriegn countries that produces dog food has and is killing dogs everywhere.
These products kill by destroying the kidneys and when the dog shows signs of kidney failure it's almost always far to late to do anything other then make the dog as comfortable as possible.
Your suggesting people to buy Royal Canin kibbles.. A Mars's company! Good.
L- GLUTAMINE POWDER KEEP MUSCLES STRONG AND CAN BE GIVEN TO DOGS FOR MUSCLE WASTING.
your analogy as a line of reasoning is fallacious. things look different on the outside, so the inside must be different. therefore, dogs cannot eat like wolves eat. wow!
My dear doctor: You should look into the study to see the actual percentage of dogs who have been affected, like Dr. Andrew Jones did. It's less than 1%. The study was conducted on a relatively small number of dogs, and specific breeds were targeted. Golden Retrievers were one. Before you publish your opinions, it would be great if more vets actually looked into the science, so that pet owners like me, without medical backgrounds, could learn from your experience. Do you really think that I'm going to take your word for it based on your own personal opinions? It's unfortunate that more vets don't continue where their vet studies left off with nutrition. From what I understand, only a short amount of time and attention is invested in nutrition. Same with MD's. Ancient Wisdom: Food can either be the best medicine, or the worst poison. It's a travesty that our defunct Western medical model pays so little attention to nutrition. After watching hours and hours of lectures by Dr. Karen Becker, I am continually frustrated that vets do not do the same
Vets are required to do continuing education like many professions and honesty yes you should take his opinion. He's a doctor, that's the whole thing. Went through the toughest education path so that people would take his opinion
Dogs would eat grains in the wild! Not a lot, partially digested grains from killed animals that do eat grains. Such as rabbits, rats, chickens etc. And they are aleardy half digested. But just not a lot!
Which grain? Defenately not wheat! But oats!!! Oats are simply amazing. My dogs being fed barf, get an oatmeal, once or twice per forthnight. Soak the rolled oats for 5-10 min in hot water. When soft, tip water out, add full cream fresh milk, 2-3 egg yolks, 1-2 tblsp natural yoghurt, some cottage cheese and voila you got a healthy grain meal. Or the left over wholemeal rice from our meals. Left over polenta. Dogs do eat grains, JUST NOT A LOT!
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
Good old Purina for my dogs no trendy food for them,my previous 2 dogs lived long and happy lives 15 & 16 years old eating Purina One
Are you a real veterinarian?
he is definitely not.
Feeding raw food is the best compare to commercial foods? ? Bcoz tht could be the most natural way to feed carnivores
I think I get what you typed ,lol. but agree I get it.
They’re not carnivores. They’re omnivores.
@@jorditt2816 thr digestive system frm jaws to anus is designed to cope with meat, bones, fur, skin. ...etc not grains
The cause is simple. The grain free does not give what dogs need to produce taurine.. if u insist on making your pet be your latest fad.. them at least give them a taurine supplement.. give them meat regularly.. even a taurine vitamin paste that's for ferrets.. but. The grain free food MUST be given to foxes. I know cuz I have one. But I give him mostly meat a bit of veggies .. and because he doesn't care for dogfood I have actually quit giving him dog food AT ALL.. few dogs actually have allergy to grain. It's usually more like chicken or maybe lamb. But for your dogs health. Stop believing grain free is good for your pet. It's NOT. give them a meat diet with a bit of veggies like carrots etc.
Why. It's KNOWN. unfortunately few vets seem to know the info.. dogs need taurine..just like cats do. SOME grain free that's VERY EXPENSIVE may HAVE taurine IN IT. and it WILL STATE it in ingredients. But simply put. Dogs make taurine. But if u feed grain free food it doesn't have the protein needed to produce the taurine. So if u r a vet. U REALLY should know this. Unfortunately FEW do. That's why so many dogs keep having to die.
The conclusions you've drawn have no evidence. The extrusion temperatures these foods are cooked at destroy taurine, all foods cooked like this should be supplemented with taurine. Carbohydrates heavy foods, like Science Diet or Ol' Roy already had to add taurine because their carbohydrate levels are so high. Grain based foods don't necessarily have more protein, it depends on the line of food. A basic bag of Science Diet rice base has about 19% max protein. So, these foods have always added taurine. The newer ones have higher levels of protein so, nothing in AAFCO says they have to add taurine, unlike the carb heavy kibble.
Look for the word taurine in the ingredient list, if it's not there don't feed it, grain based or otherwise.
@@KrystalessR several studied PROVE. THEY DO NOT ..I've seen countless articles. And they STATE THIS. and NO...THEY DONT have taurine. How do I know. Because I've READ the ingredients. VERY VERY VERY FEW HAVE taurine. U HAVE to check all the ingredients. I bought a FOX. I paid alot of money . I studied the feeding to find the ones with MOST protein. Not JUST SAYING percent of protein. But the TYPES ..ANS NO GENIUS they DONT ADD TAURINE. and if the DO have it added ONLY the ones that SAY IT SPECIFICALLY do. And since I spent hours looking ALL the EXPENSIVE food ingredients up and a VERY VERY long time at the pet stores actually Reading them I think I ACTUALLY AM MORE qualified than someone ACTING like they know it. I spent WEEKS studying about it prior to paying over a grand for a domestic fox that has mutated color of pearl .
And the CAT FOOD that HAD TO BE GRAIN FREE ALSO DO NOT HAVE taurine UNLESS in ingredients..
If the foods HAVE TAURINE they WILL HAVE IT STATED.
The Exotic pet store I got the fox from and guy BREEDS foxes as well as a few of the exotic pets he sells has a bit more knowledge of the animals diets that he sells
I put my fox on strictly meat veggie grubs diet now because he doesn't LIKE ANY of the dogfood brands I had tried and frankly I didn't feel him having even only 1/3 of diet being it and he only ate it a few bites and marked the rest and I had to throw it out. I ended up mixing the grain free with my regular food for the puppy I got for him so it wouldn't be wasted ..
But since SCIENTIST ARE stating in SEVERAL articles WHY these dogs r having heart disease and it's basing them on the taurine issue in MOST that actually do understand it and not the so called pros who say they just don't know WHY the dogs r dying . I think I may know a bit more than you since I'm not just spouting out info I think just sounds good but have NOT really researched.
@@KrystalessR and I never said grain free have higher protein. I SAID I ONLY BOUGHT THE HIGHEST PROTEINS of the foods. And food I bought was the most expensive foods I ever bought for dogs. I NEVER said grain free was higher protein. I said JUST the opposite..
Cats need taurine not dogs
@@joanbaczek2575 no. Dogs need it too. Just not as much. But dogs PRODUCS taurine and they can only do it if the food they r given has what is necessary to produce the taurine. It is in the meats mainly. But in grain free it doesn't have ingredients necessary for the dogs to produce it. But dogs that do not have food necessary to produce it get heart condition. Because foxes r not dogs they can eat SOME amount of cat food that has higher taurine in it. But. Maybe u can just Google the info for yourself. Or maybe it's just natural knowledge u use
I agree with you on most of what you say. However, you are still young and have a lot to learn about pet food. But you’ll be all right though. Meat, berries and light grazing on certain grasses, is the only thing a dog or cat should eat.
Everything Pet, any science behind what you’re suggesting?
A friends son feeds his Beatle on Royal Canin Beagle kibble and nothing else. I worry that dog won't live long due too kibble being time convenient for the owner... but he relies on his Vets advice..
I changed from beneful with salmon to beneful grain free .
my dog started having seizure since. thank God ,I checked this out tonight , I guess. il start making my own. but I keep seeing feed your dog this, then I see this is also harmful to my dog,
I think il try beans and rice. spinach and rice, and pumpkin
Dude. Dogs are carnivores. Feed them what they would have had in the wild.
And by that, I mean feed them actual meat. Human grade meat.
Carrots are also good for the vitamins etc.
Alot of dogs died from beneful.They were sued dont buy any cheap food brands they use ingrediants from china and make it in usa.Any store like walmart or any store.A GOOD quality food will cost you $65 or more for 25pound bag at specialty pet store.Dont buy cheap food will kill your dog .
Beneful are you kidding me.. its the most garbage food out there along with kibbles and bits. They put some veggies on the bag and people think its good. It's on the bottom of almost every bad food list for dog foods. Go buy your dog anything else.
If you really love your dog, take him off Beneful.
These all conditions that just "happen" to dogs are due to vaccinations and neutering/spaying a dog.
You inject chemicals in his body at a very young age and expect him to live well?
You chop off their body parts and when there is a hormonal disturbance you feed them hormones by pills? What kind of logic is that.
Keep them as they are.
You should adjust to their lifestyle, they shouldn't adjust to yours.
Fresh food, ample space for playing and running around, and affection.
This is all that it takes for a dog to be fit and strong.
Those who doubt see a documentary on how nomad/Siberian dogs are very healthy. They eat all natural and be all natural.
Thanks for the video content! Sorry for butting in, I would appreciate your opinion. Have you heard about - Chireetler Eating Program Rule (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now)? It is an awesome one of a kind guide for discovering how prepare high quality raw dog food minus the normal expense. Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my friend after many years got amazing success with it.
Yea feed ur dog corn😝
That's what Purina and hills scince put in their foods
Sooooo are you a real Vetenarian?...🧐🤔. Looking a little young there....
Anyone can buy a lab coat.
Take his advice with a "grain" of salt.
Pun intended.
Thanks! As I look toward 30 it means I'll age well haha
@@JacaboBlanco This is very true...unfortunately for me, mine required 8 years of schooling and a 6 figure student loan debt...sigh
@@petdocsherlock5301
Could have just bought one of Amazon for 20 dollars!
Dogs come from wolves. wolves seek meat. not bread. My purebred German shepherd loves and thrives on meat, or liver. He's active, alert and extremely intelligent and he's 10 years old.
We go everywhere, no leash, and has never been in a crate.
Dogs are essentially scavengers, and as long as they don't get into something toxic they can be quite healthy on almost any diet provided it contains all the essential nutrients for dogs. And dietary requirements for cats and dogs are totally different.
Raw is the best
commercial dog food has been around 100 years. Dogs have been around how long? guys clueless
Buck Haberthy, what is your point, exactly?
You have stated ZERO support behind even ur ideas on what is causing it. And yet you are making a whole video on telling people to feed grain diets, why do it when you are even sure what the issue is??? You literally are tarnishing brands from a guess.
The FDA is currently investigating 16 brands of dog food because grain-free food has been linked with heart issues.
@@dianastamos4439 correlation is NOT causation.
Purina backed the FDA study which directly targeted smaller companies, basically naming them as the “worst brands” to feed ur dog. Meanwhile Purina fills their bags with so much corn and potatoes it’s not even funny.
All of your recommendations are absolutely garbage as well, look at an Acana Grain in ingredient list and compare. I would rather let my dog eat road kill than anything you recommend.
Buddy, you were doing SO well until you started to recommend a Hills Science Diet and Purina. These fools contain corn as a main ingredient.You are a shill for these companies nice try I’ll keep feeding my dog Orijen, a premium food with premium ingredients.
Doe not impress me with his doctorness.
Hi Joe, thanks for the input. I agree that some of their diets contain corn as a main ingredient, however they have plenty of options which do not. I can assure you I have no reason to represent these companies as I've never received compensation or any benefit from them in particular. If Orijen is working well for your dogs then fantastic! I wouldn't want to convince you otherwise, just giving my 2 cents for those who would ask. Wishing you and your pets the best!
Joe Tof I hate to break it to you but Orijen is linked to the heart disease with 12 reported cases, Funny how ScienceDiet, or any Purina dog foods are NOT on the list of 16 dog foods..
@@petdocsherlock5301 "I've never received compensation or any benefit from them in particular." They sponsor most veterinary programs and give hand outs to students like they are drug reps handing out opiate swag, lol. Frankly, I don't believe you.
A 12 year old veterinarian?
Congrats little dude
Jacabo Blanco right that's amazing. He's thirteen a vet and has no idea what he's talking about
@@mikedeeg2432 As I look toward 30 I'll take it as a compliment...at least I'll age well!!
Why aren’t grain free dog foods affecting dogs’ health in Europe?? Really sad propaganda attempt here! How much did they pay you? Hope it was worth the pathetic video. (Btw you almost had a panic attack, you should have that checked)
Good evening Orpheas. Unfortunately I can't speak to Europe as I don't live there, but I will certainly take a look. At this time I make $0 on anything I put out on UA-cam and have received $0 from any food company...haven't even received free food for my pets. Simply providing information that's currently out there. As to the panic attack...not sure what you mean...though being in front of a camera isn't something I've quite gotten used to haha
commercial dog food has been around 100 years. Dogs have been around how long? guys clueless