Keep in mind veterinarians actually have very little training in their courses about nutrition. I had to take an extra 2 years in veterinary nutrition on top of my 4 year standard veterinary courses to be a board certified nutritionist. Vets and vet offices can become just as biased as anyone else because of the lack of education or because they have made a brand deal to recommend a certain brand like royal canin. Seek a nutritionist for your dietary needs is your safest bet.
It's something I have heard, and even something some of the vets I've worked with have admitted, but I felt a little uncomfortable stating it because there are so many on forums saying how they got a great overview in nutrition. So I just didn't want the controversy lol. Absolutely agreed though.
@@PawsofPrey my total unit time on nutrition was 3 weeks. I was livid because that is not what was outlined in the information packets before enrollment. I ended up taking a 2 year course after the fact. I then found my passion in native Albertain carnivores and omnivores. Bears, gray wolves, coyotes, lynx, wolverines, pine Martins and cougars. I took on zoology and am now working in the Wild Canada section of the Calgary zoo. I am responsible for all these animals nutrition and even in a zoo setting, veterinarians generally are not part of our nutrition team. We work with them but they are not above us.
a lot of vet would recommend dog food cuz they know is just easier for the owner some owner I have met make there own food but it doesn't meet the dietary need I had a crazy owner coming in and tell me that they have been putting there dog on an all fruit diet.
@@magdalenavegan just because you haven't die that doesn't mean your perfectly safe and healthy..we have studies that show that is very bad for our health and it can be addicted.. Humans are Not carnivores our system can not benefit from meat especially from raw meat.. We get better nutrients from fruits (that's why we can eat them raw) and vegetables
My dog was going lame in both his back legs. The vet said he needed surgery and he wouldn’t be 100% even after the surgery. I didn’t want to put him through surgery. I started giving him fish oil and noticed an improvement. So, I stopped giving him dog food and started giving him salmon, sardines, steak, chicken….he stopped limping and started running and playing like nothing was ever wrong with him. He prefers his meat slightly cooked. That’s okay with me because he’s an only child now. ❤
Thanks, going to try that, mine has been limping for few months now, high vet bill got us nowhere so I bought joint supplements and recently fish oil. Still limping with the supplements but I see she starting to walk to the garden again to do her business, I was picking her up and carrying her just so she could get grass and sun...maybe its the fish oil. Also been giving her green powders, turmeric, collagen, bone broth, at least I don't see her getting worse. I'm here as the last resort, I want to try some raw food, even seared to test and see how that goes. She does not eat kibble, sometimes I mix a handful into her food.
@judy8301 raw diets do wonders if done correctly. They are not for the faint of heart. I spend 3 hours a week doing meal prep for 2 bullies. Remember based on weight %10-20 of there daily diet MUST contain organ meats. I rotate chicken lamb and beef livers, kidney and heart sometimes all of the above. Plus occasionally giblets and stomach if i can find it. Dont over use livers! Also your dogs must have calcium and fibre. I give each dog each meal x1 chicken neck or wing. Sometimes a raw or boiled egg with shell(shell is high in calcium) a couple times a week. For fibre i steam and puree pumkin, sweet potato and carrots 50-80 grams per meal . Plus i add an omega 3,6,9 suppliment oil every meal as well as a fish oil tablet and 30 grams of sardines in spring water(out of a can NOT THE SARDINES IN OIL) As a treat a tea spoon of cottage cheese and 3 slices of cucumber and 4-5 frozen blueberries. Maybe a big slice of apple watermelon or mango if im indulging my self. Use greens like broccoli, beans, peas and spinach if you can, my hate them otherwise i would use more. Finally to regulate there system i give a pre/pro biotic once sometime twice a week or occasionally spinkle in pysllium husk in the selected meat. If your dog is having joint problems look into green lipped mussles supplements. Green lipped mussles are very healthy for humans and pets alike. They also contain chondroitin which is good for joint health. If you can get your dog to ingest Tumeric thats a good way to go 2. Natural raw diet with fish oils, green lipped mussels, Tumeric and a probiotic..... you will see a difference in a matter of days! GOOD LUCK!
@@manimal319 Thanks for taking the time to share such an extensive write up, and wealth of information. Is there a suitable substitute for gut food? I was thinking Hot dogs, or liverworts, (something like that). My dog is on her last days, and doesn't have a huge appetite. I need food that stores well in the fridge, and is simple to make for when she get hungry. Raw food isn't something we can leave in the bowl all day, and too expensive to waste.
Love this video. We've been feeding our 2 french bulldogs raw for 7 years. Vet wasn't thrilled at first, believing kibble was as nutritionally complete as anything needed to be. At the time we were really struggling with GI and allergy issues with our dogs. After a discussion with the guy who sold us the commercial pet food, HE actually recommended we try raw, and I discussed with Vet. I told vet we'd start with a pre-proportioned (proper allocations of bone, muscle, organ), then grind own with very careful calculations. We agreed to do annual blood tests to make sure things remained in balance. I used many references from canine nutritionists. End result? Vet says our dogs are healthier than any of her other patients. Blood results are perfect. Allergies and GI issues gone. Most recent conversation with our vet had HER asking ME for the sources for our dogs' raw diets so that she could help her clients!. At the same time we are in agreement that if people do it wrong, it could be catastrophic. I hope more vets take on the education of pet nutrition so that they can help their clients' pets live longer & healthier lives.
That's a really wonderful story I am so glad that there is a vet out there that can be open-minded. A lot of times after all that school that they have to go through to do what they're doing they think they know everything and everybody else is stupid. Kudos to the open-minded veterinarian 7 years ago LOL
Woww! I have a dog who has constant skin allergy throughout the year on and off . Vet asked us to switch to hypoallergenic diet which my dog hates( he generally hates kibble). He doesn't eat food properly. Since we stopped giving boiled chicken since a month and his allergies aren't visible. I want to go raw on him. Can I try raw chicken or some other meat?
@@dr.chandrikaavuti3230 I would avoid Chicken, unless it is free range, naturally raised and organic ideally. Chickens that are raised on small places with barely no sunlight and no access to other food other than soy, corn, etc., have a omegal in balance in them (more Omega 6), which causes inflammation.
@@dr.chandrikaavuti3230 If it's accessible to you, I normally give my dogs Quail or Turkey for poultry meat. If you can find Goat that's great for red meat. My dog is is fed various proteins in rotation. She's not spoiled in clothes, etc., but definitely pampered in nutrition (along with my 19 year old). She's fed Goat, Rabbit, Llama, Kangaroo, Quail, Bison,, Venison, Bison, Quail, Turkey, Lamb, Beef, Chicken and one day fasting a week. They get about 3 different meat proteins every week (pre-made).
Yes but wild cats have a much shorter life expectancy. Of course you could argue that they most likely die from other reasons but it could also be they dont live long enough to know the risk of raw food diet.
Wild cats die sooner because of a) predation; b) man-made causes (cars, poisons) and d) age-related--inability to hunt; and e) killed by prey/ same specie/different specie competitor. If raw diet was a problem, no wild predator will be left alive from the beginning. Cats, especially, were not domesticated to eat corn, soy, brown rice etc. in barns. You let a cat out and majority of them will hunt, domesticated enough. Kibble on the other hand and improperly made cooked food, has killed and caused so much more related problems from organ and metabolic issues.
@@teddy2979 Humans also start off eating raw, they also have a lot less diseases (most likely because they dont live long enough for these diseases to develop and reasons you stated above as well), do you suggest we go back to eating raw as well? How do you suggest cats deal with worms coming from raw meat? Keep in mind that dewormers are actually poison.
@@vc7417 Hi, AC...cat biology and human biology are different. Cats are classified (and dogs) as carnivores by Smithsonian institute Taxonomists and ethologists (people who actually do this for a living). It is a scientific fact. Cats and dogs have not "evolved" to eat processed food (although dogs can survive more on it than cats longer). We have change to morphology of cats and dogs for sure, but not their DNA, dentition, digestive tracts. The parasite scare is what many people who are not aware to discourage raw. Yes, there are parasites/pathogens in raw food, but dogs and cats, unless they are immunocompromised, which need special handling, have the enzymes in their mouths and the right acidic levels in their guts to deal with them, along with a healthy immune system. The National Research Council, which pet food companies based their self-funded studies on, will tell you head on that dogs and cats even need ZERO carbs to survive. The fact that many non-meat diets have to be cooked in order for their nutrients to be unlocked says a lot as it is. If truly raw was dangerous for carnivores, we would have seen mass extinctions of carnivores; the same goes for herbivores if we fed them cooked "grass, etc." No animal in this planet eat cooked food except humans because we are so far removed from nature, and we indeed have evolved to eat more processed and cooked food. Believe it or not, for Sushi, for example, it is healthier for you raw because the nutrients are not destroyed b cooking, BUT unfortunately human intervention in the oceans (mercury, pollution etc. makes it a problem). For cats and dogs, as with processed kibble, you have to obviously watch out for sourcing. If one does not know how to feed raw properly and handle them, I would not recommend them either.
When I was fostering 6 kittens and their mom, I went to the vet and asked them what to feed the little kittens after they weened off, I was given a suggestion of kitten specific canned food, I of course picked it up. I was giving mom some raw fish and raw chicken and one day I noticed that she grabbed a whole piece and took it to the kittens herself, I was amused so I followed. She brought the raw fish to her kittens and they just all jumped on it, biting into it as if they never ate before, It was too adorable, they even growled at each other. I cut up the piece and gave them all so they could all have enough. Nature, eh?
Please be very careful and considerate with using a raw diet on cats. They require certain amino acids and vitamins in their diet that dogs do not, if you give a cat the same raw diet as a dog it will die! (goes for dog kibbles as well, never feed a cat kibble food meant for dogs). I´m not saying its not possible to feed cats a raw diet, but its very hard und requires a lot of research. In my opinion giving a cat some raw food in addition to a kibble diet is probably the better and safer method.
@@livvy8919 so I know that cats shouldn’t eat dig food but what am I supposed to do when the cat eats the dog food by itself (ie dog bowl is unattended and cat goes up and eats out of it)
@@itsrue7216 its not that the dog food is poisonous for the cat. It's not a problem if it eats the food, as long as the cat also gets proper cat food as a main meal. It's only a problem if people feed their cat dog food only. If your cat mainly eats cat food, which has all the important stuff supplemented, it will be fine;)
Raw is naturally how a dog would it. They cant make fire and the boil water needed to make chicken and rice. Also do to the rice dogs can have issues. Legumes are another thing to research and make your own conclusions.
@@wherethemoneywent humans can though and dogs evoled with humans. So you do need to take into account the effect we have had on dog nutitrional needs.
@@starandfox601 give a dog a bowl of kibble and a bowl of raw meat which will they want?? Raw. They are hunters. Play some animals sounds see how they react. Itll click unless they were taught their instincts were bad.
@@wherethemoneywent did I say give your dog kibble? Dogs have hunted along side humans eating what we eat.this has resulted in them needing a varied diet including grains other wise there can be serouis health effects.also raw may not be good for them cuase 1 they have a weaker stomach then wolves and 2 grocery store meat isn't exactly fresh or the best and can be loaded with parasites and other nasties. Serouisly stop pretending your dog is a wolf/wild animal.or that are is harmless.
@@starandfox601 sounds like you think bread is nutritious. And I would never eat nor feed disgusting grocery store meat Im well versed in health thanks.
A veterinarian told me to start feeding my dogs raw, because of allergies they got from dry food. They don't have them any more, and they are much happier getting this food.
We found an elderly stray beagle who was allergic to apparently everything. We tried a raw meat diet with her and eventually discovered she had a reaction to beef, less with chicken, none with lamb but that's impossible to find. With research, we created a vegetarian diet for her and our other dog. Molly passed away of old age completely allergy free and our Max is going strong.
This is a terrible argument. Dogs and cats have much longer lifespans in captivity than in the wild. Just because something is natural doesn’t mean it’s good. Death cap mushrooms are perfectly natural but eating them will still kill you. I’m not saying raw diets are bad, but “it’s natural therefore it must be better” is literally a logical fallacy.
@@mitchlindgren you realize kibble companies provide the “nutrition class” for the Vets right? How did dogs survive when they were first domesticated?? Prior to “kibble” 🤔 I’ve lost dogs to Caner, Bloat, all from KIBBLE, even the vet stated it was from KIBBLE. Also have you seen the new Recall list for kibble????
@@moonhoney5527 Great question, I actually made a few videos on this topic. I list all my sources in the description box. The Prepper Dog EP2 Ultimate Guide for feeding RAW for SHTF ua-cam.com/video/LcQIw68JLA8/v-deo.html The Prepper Dog EP4 The Most Sustainable Raw Diet ua-cam.com/video/JTrqRp40Yj0/v-deo.html Hope this helps
I work at a vet and I have to say, you rarely see people doing raw food right. Just this week we had a cat severely sick from raw pet food. He was on the verge of not making it. I'd rather people buy high quality kibble or wet food than half ass a raw diet.
That's what my research on the topic concluded too. Raw done properly is sound. However, very few owners do a raw diet properly. I supplement some with raw food, but the foundation is kibble.
Thats a good way to do it. Have high quality kibble and feed hearts, bones, whatever you want extra. And ensure that it is fresh!! The cat we had at our clinic was severely ill from eating older (not rotting but older) meat and being transitioned from kibble to raw way too quickly
Nope... Not my job. I am a vet tech, not an animal nutritionist. We often refer people to animal nutritionists but we would never tell someone to feed raw or how to feed raw. Because if something goes wrong its always "But you told me.....!!" We advise high quality ready made foods. If people feed raw we don't say anything but we will not lie to them if their pet gets sick because of that diet
@@rmoenmjea you don’t have to advice them to switch to raw but by simply telling them to ensure that their raw diet is balanced will suffice. Telling them that dogs and cats have nutritional needs that need to be met. Telling them to consult a nutritionist that specializes in raw diets. By simply looking the other way is being part of the problem. Take your education serious and talk to pet owners. For crying out loud….. so happy that more vets and vet techs are becoming part of the raw movement and ruffling the feathers of big pet companies. Kibble doesn’t cut it. Period!
My grandma remembered a time when dog and cat food were considered weird. The dog and cat got scraps. They lived a long time and didn't have the health issues pets do today.
Someone told me they feed a raw diet. I saw it consisted of salami, cottage cheese, eggs and another type of cheese. They were feeding this to their cats!! Obviously I called them out and referred them to nutritional information that was correct but my god. Personally raw has turned out to be so much more affordable than canned and I couldn’t be happier.
What in the world? The imbalanced and flat out wrong "homemade diet recipes" out there are a huge reason vets are against homemade diets. It's unfortunate.
@@PawsofPreyoh don't get me wrong, I'm really happy you made this video! I'm just a bit upset that vets discourage raw diets instead of providing resources, for example referring them to a vet nutritionalist or giving them a basic outline to follow
Just to be clear, you spoke with a board-certified veterinary nutritionist that stated that a raw diet is healthier than kibble? I find that very hard to believe, as the current AVMA consensus is that a raw-food diet is typically not a recommended option for the majority of households.
While canines ate raw meat for years. Modern canines learned to grow wheat and corn and harvest the necessary food to eat better. Dogs are very picky, only the best food in a dumpster or off the ground is used by them.
It's not really about the "responsibility" of giving the okay for a raw diet, it's the fact that owners can slowly and prematurely kill their pets with nutritional deficiencies that cause permanent damage like heart disease. Consult a professional veterinary nutritionist always.
Actually, the professional nutritionist I consulted DOES recommend a raw diet. Also my vet now consults me on what the best raw diet should be. He's admitted he has no first-hand knowledge of raw diets and little in vet school beyond the basics. He quizzed me when we first met six years ago and I explained the supplements added to the raw chicken, the handling procedures for working with raw food and the feeding schedule. He's satisfied with that and we're going on eight years of feeding now 14 cats raw.
@@carolann811 I think thats what the commenter meant. They want people to consult with a nutritionist when doing something like raw to make sure people understand how to completely balance their pet’s diet.
@@carolann811 hello, i couldn't find a video or anything that explains how to make sure the raw food is safe for my cats , i mean how to make sure that the raw food that i will feed them have no pathogens or dangerous bacteria? both my cats have digestion problems , they can only digest Hill's Prescription Digestive care... so i don't think their digestive system is strong enough to fight pathogens and harmful bacteria, so is there anyway i can handle or process the raw food to make sure it is free of harmful stuff ?
@@SusaAndPuppo The only way to handle raw food to make it free of harmful stuff is to heat it to the point of killing the pathogens. But then it's no longer raw. What kind of digestive issues do your cats have? What happens when they eat? And why does Hill's PDC work for them when other foods don't?
You bring up the salmonella risk but do vets realize that kibble contains salmonella and bacteria too? It’s highly processed and sits on shelves for so long and collects bacteria..
There are other bacteria and toxins harbored in raw food aside from salmonella that cannot be killed via freezing only heat. I’ve seen multiple pets sick from bacterial toxins related to raw diets and a patient that actually died from it. It’s not always an issue when you have a healthy dog but if you have an immunocompromised pet or one with underlying disease you’re unaware of, that’s when illness can occur. Commercial dry diets are coated as well as the packaging they come in. They have a shelf life before they begin to collect any bacteria or lose nutrition and once opened and stored in a cool dark place they have a life of about 3 months. I’m not advocating one over the other just pointing out some info/pros and cons.
Actually yes they do the FDA actually has companies recall food for salmonella contamination that has been linked to pets becoming ill or even dying but raw is way more commonly recalled for this reason than dry foods and wet foods. Not saying you can't feed raw just saying it makes sense that there's more risk of it possibly having bacterial contamination
Also when feeding a raw diet Salmonella and E. Coli can live in a dogs mouth for a long time and not cause a problem for the dog but when that dog licks your mouth or a childs hand and that child puts their hand in their mouth, it can make them very sick! So that can be a hazard!
My dog's not on a raw diet, but homemade cooked food. I only grill the meat on the sides, leaving it basically raw inside. I give him bones and organs too, mainly liver, heart and kidneys. We don't give him chicken or eggs because he's allergic to poultry; plus we give him Omega 4 supplements. Fish is too expensive where I live. We also give him Greek yogurt sometimes, and vegetables. All of this, paired with a portion of rice and potatoes. Our vets were also against BARF, and even raw bones, now I know why! We had to switch to a homemade diet because kibble just didn't work for us, we changed brands 4-5 times, and each time my dog had digestive and intestinal issues. He was lethargic most times and meal times were almost torture for him. Now he licks the bowl and he's always excited for the next meal, he's more energetic and his fur is brighter and softer, his stool is firm. He wasn't being pickky, anyway. A few days after we introduced him to homemade food, he was eager to eat kibble; in fact, he loved it and wanted more, but then he had tummy issues again and that's when we asked our vet for blood tests because I was suspecting that my dog was not being picky, he was being sick because of kibbles! My suspicions were soon confirmed, so we never switched back to commercial food, although yes, it is more convenient on all aspects.
Of course I am no expert but I thought I’d share my experience. I know that my boy’s heart failure was massively due to bad breeding (puppy mill rescue.) He was given three weeks to live at most. Whilst feeding Royal Canin Kibble, he declined extremely quickly. I’m talking a week. I’m a complete pessimist, it’s just the way life has shaped me. If I expect nothing or the bad, then neither of them can upset me. I didn’t believe all the praise the raw diet was getting but I was desperate. I decided on a premade high quality raw food. The improvements in my boy were so beautiful and rapid. He went from deaths door, to like a puppy again!! His heart also shrunk in size to the astonishment of his cardiologist, who even now recommends a raw diet to her other patients! Personally, I will never go back to kibble 🖤
Why were your only two options either kibble or raw? Why not somewhere in between with slightly cooked meat? I don't understand this extremist attitude in the comment sections where it's either A or B. Is there not a balanced medium? Perhaps don't over cook the food, but just enough to rid of anything viral etc? I don't understand what is happening in this comment section...
@@iskywalking420 I think cook foods is good but it's more of the level of nutrition so it would be more of a transition if your pet is picky but Raw is the ultimate ideal grand prize type of food for the pets to eat.
@@iskywalking420 "extremist attitude" because people feed raw.. lmfao pls, you sound dopey. nice attempt at negative framing. dogs stomach acid is much stronger than humans, they're scavengers / omnivores and can handle dirty water / rotten carcasses. a dogs digestive tract is virtually identical to a wolf. what do wolves eat? that's a biologically appropriate diet for a dog. bacteria isn't inherently bad, bacteria is also fundamental to health. dogs instinctively bury meaty bones let them rot in the ground and eat them weeks / months later dogs also eat rotten dead animals if they find them. that bacteria helps shape their microbiome / immune system. finally when you cook meat you're destroying enzymes, nutrients, bacteria. you're also making the bones more brittle so when they crack they splinter in very dangerous ways. feeding cooked meat with any type of bone is much more dangerous.
@@iskywalking420it’s really no different than when a human is on their proverbial “deathbed” and the medical route has failed them and they choose to go the “holistic” route as a last resort.
I mentioned being interested in feeding raw to a new vet I went to and was very pleasantly suprised to not hear any objections, just warnings and precautions. They brought up how I need to be cautious with how its handled, and I mentioned I was planning on buying pre-made to avoid imbalances and they said that was good. No major objections, which was massively reassuring, a vet I went to before that literally was reccomending I use dry kibble, it hurt my soul
Yeh I get premade 250 gram packets which do me a one day and then she has 2 cubes of dark berry fruits and foremnted yhoghurt and then 3 spoonful of premade herbs for hair skin guts sight teeth and then I have a special natural toothpaste made out of liver 😂 she eats better than me daily
I work at an indoor dog park and see hundreds of dogs throughout the day, I can always tell which ones are on the kibble diet. My little chipin can go 12 hours between bathroom breaks, poops maybe every other day, his coat is always nice and shiny, used to have dandruff
3 dogs dead from cancer, fed regular dog food. 1 19-year-old dog, fed raw and cooked whole foods. Not a large study, but I think I will continue and keep learning more through researching nutrition.
What brand was the dog food and how much was being fed? Were the dogs overweight and did they have pre-existing health issues? Also what were the breeds? Were they pure bred or mutts?
@@bbycherub2420 not sure about the first dog's food, as I was very young. But he was a Collie. Other two I believe Purina beneful, cannot recall amount, as this was 20ish years ago. One Schillerstovare(sp?) And one basset, not sure if pure bred, as both rescues. Mostly good weight and good health. 20-year-old is beagle German Shepherd mix.
@@bbycherub2420 my pleasure! I mainly feed 2 cooked eggs for breakfast, a cooked sweet potato for dinner, raw carrots as snacks, raw beef bones, sometimes beef, chicken, or fish I am starting to incorporate organ meats.
@@hoperoesler oh goodness please include more meat! also raw carrots are going to have a pretty hard time being digested by a dog, if you want a raw plant based snack try berries or something. I'd also recommend a high quality supplement just to cover all your bases. From the sound of it it sounds like your dogs might not be getting enough protein and fat.
I had a 5 year old pittie that had cancer bad enough that the vet wanted to put him down rather than do surgery. We prayed about it and ended up paying for his surgeries, switched his diet to cooked chicken and raw veggies, and he lived to be 17. When he passed, he had never had a bad old age day. He still had his sight, he never had accidents in the house, never got scared and nipped, never even slowed down all that much. One day his heart just couldnt do it anymore. Ive had pitties and been around them all my life, not many live to 17. I would never claim that the diet is fully responsible but I know that was part of it.
@Zoran Grlic Okay, Zoran, I will give you this. There's no mass study that vets are consciously trying to poison pets with kibble for the sake of business, but do please consider the following: a) Majority of vets get very LITTLE nutrition training, and as much as 80% of are sponsored by Pet Food companies, with the science being backed by self-funded, not 3rd party tested studies. The only thing pet food companies have proven is that pets can survive, not thrive, on kibble, that's it. They are in the same corner as raw feeders. Now this does not mean the average Joe knows more about the average vet, of course. b) the NRC, where AAFCO bases it's "science" concludes need ZERO - ZERO - carbs to survive. This alone should SAY a lot on the biological needs of dog; c) dogs are classified as carnivores by Taxonomists (if a vet says otherwise, go tell them to argue with Smithsonian Institute that study this for a living; and d) majority of the longest living dogs in the planet (go to Thomas Sandberg's Longest Living Dog Research Project are almost all raw fed. Yes, there are other factors that contribute to longetivity from genetics, products used on them, supplementation, etc., but if you really want to learn about kibble in general no one else will know better about the scrupulous practices of the kibble industry more than Pet consumer advocate Susan Thixon who has dealt with Pet Food companies, AAFCO and the FDA. Now, if someone does not know how to raw feed, then they are definitely better off to feed the highest quality kibble. and there are some dry food that is better than others; freeze dried being superior to any kibble, and more animal, minimally processed better than the rest. I will ignore the fact that you compared me to a conspiracy theorist if you can forgive me for makin a general assumption about all vets (although I have met some that sell dog food in their stores ---clear conflict of interest in my opinion but that's another story. I have been researching raw food for the last 20 years, thank you. Yes, many are anectdotal, but I can tell you for a fact that kibble and dry food has killed FAR MORE than raw diets for pets. It does not even compare. Raw feeding needs people to be educated about a balanced diet but you know what, so do pet owners who blindly trust kibble companies or just because "their vet recommended itl"
For anyone new to feeding raw, there are now thankfully nutritionally balanced complete raw foods available, so you don’t have to stress about making it yourself and getting the balance right. If you prefer to make your own but are not confident you are able to balance the nutrition, there is also a complete nutrition powder you can add to make sure they are getting everything they need.
There's no need to stress about this. Simply do research. We do need to buy expensive commercially available "raw food gimmicks". That would be making the same people who are selling other dog products rich. Let's instead learn about how to feed our dogs.
@@alvodin6197 no just buy 80:10:10 raw meat and give correct amounts/add sardines and eggs etc and it is the same thing less effort just as healthy, and price difference isnt much different I pay £85 a month to feed my dog raw stress free.
@@alvodin6197 everyone’s trying to get a piece of the pie, especially from small dog-owners like me who don’t pay much to feed my dogs raw meat every month. They don’t want to lose the business
This is what I’ve been wondering bout a lot of them are really $$ I should only have to spend a 1-2$ on his meals (mix lap dog) at the most 3-4. Are there any that are economical?? I’ve just been getting him ground turkey and sweet potato’s😋
Hills funds their 8 hour nutritional course ☠️ I personally haven't seen anyone do raw feeding wrong, the raw feeding owners are generally more educated than vets when it comes to nutrition. A lot of vets/vet techs are incredibly stupid and stubborn. Even things like flea and tick care is something they blindly push onto clients because they're endorsed by them. I decided to keep studying and get my degree in holistic pet care instead of jumping into the field to work at a regular clinic now because I can't stand the clients or the vets.
While these companies do fund a lot of the schools, there are some that simply have board certified nutritionists teach and oftentimes just tell the students to do their own research but give them enough knowledge to understand the nutrition basics. Many vets have said they never had the brands pushed on them in school, but who knows.
I highly reccomend consulting a vet nutritionalist! They're specially trained to handle raw diets and can help you supplement for any of your dogs special needs and also make sure they're getting the right balance. You can even do it online :)
Yes, I’ve never seen anyone do it wrong. My dogs are raw fed and they get muscle meat, organs, bone, omega 3 (fish oil tablets and sardines), sometimes eggs 1-2 times a week and fruit and veggies they have been on raw for I’d say almost a year and they love it and it works best for me
These are some great points brought up and re-learning how to feed raw is important. The part I find funny in any video covering this topic is the handling of raw meat, but it's also getting me to think that many no longer have practical kitchen skills if this keeps coming up as a topic.
You think Google is research that's funny how you call Vets out for being wrong when they go to school to learn about the Body of animals such as cat's dogs and others Raw is a trend A potential dangerous one at that It might not show up now but In the future your pet will pay for it. Your not smart from reading a article off of Google.
@@Simplyblondie vets barely get taught about nuititrion. Also Google articles generally are more informative then vets when it comes to nuititrion.esipceally when it's a bunch of pet owners discussing their experiences or from punished studies in a sceinfic journal.
@@starandfox601 Yes, I trust Google research more than vets, sorry. I think 20 years of Google research trumps 2 hours of nutritional study in vet school sponsored by Mars Purina, thank you.
I feed my dog raw and absolutely love it! Her coat is super soft and shiny! Her poop is also way smaller. If someone wants to go raw I’d recommend getting pre made raw. I buy frozen patties and then add supplements to it. I’ll never go back!
A few years back I fostered a litter of kittens who were abandoned by a feral mom. They were about a week old when I got them home. They were malnourished and ill, especially the runt. The vet loaded me up with KMR but the kittens just weren't thriving on it and the runt was near death. I did some research and tried raw goat milk. The kittens began eating regularly. When they were about four weeks I began incorporating Radcat and Stella and Chewies. They all THRIVED on the raw diet (since they had a feral mother it stands to reason that raw; aka mice etc, made up their nutrition in utero) and the runt, whom the vet told me was surely going to die, made it. I couldn't part with her, and she's a beautiful five-year-old cat now who has really thrived on a raw diet. I worked with a nutritionist to make sure that her meals are balanced because YES that IS important. I highly recommend raw as it has also helped my dog who had CHRONIC allergies when I adopted her and I transitioned her to raw. BUT work with someone who has done the research and can guide you to make sure you are fulfilling your pet's nutritional needs. If I hadn't given raw a chance starting with the goat milk, I don't know if the litter would have made it, especially my little Rue.
I actually really liked this video because it placed everything in a very neutral way where one side isn't just saying "It's completely dangerous" or "It's completely fine". It helps me with making a decision for myself and being more open to the conversation in the future when I get a pet.
I work in the pet industry in the UK and recently found out vets are only taught nutrition for a day when they are studying. One of the main issues here is that vets know very little about nutrition.
Can't say for UK really. I strongly doubt that statement. It's inaccurate for north america. Please do contact your local university to inquire about their program : )
We learnt at the raw feeding veterinary society conference this year that Anna Hielm-Bjorkman from the university of helsinki has some AMAZING stuff coming out. Its all confidential at the moment though as its not ready but exciting times ahead! Watch this space 😊
I just experienced this yesterday! I informed my vet that my 11 year old GSD was switched to a raw diet that consisted of; ground beef, beef liver, chicken hearts, chicken feet, raw eggs with the shell, mackerel, plain kefir, blueberries, dulse granules and a turmeric/sweet potato paste. She straight up told me that I am probably going to kill my dog with bacteria and a lack of macro nutrients. I told her that I spend the time with a scale measuring out exactly each ingredient so that she’s getting everything she needs, and she didn’t want to hear it. Told me that kibble was the best choice and gave me a bunch of literature to prove that processed kibble was better than grade A meats and ingredients for human consumption. I was so shocked
My grandmother cooked for her dogs, always. Every meal consisted of rice and a veg with whatever meat was the star of the show, all simmered in the same pot. Her last dog, before she passed at 97 yrs old herself, lived until he was 19yrs old. I think there are multiple ways of feeding your dogs a nutritionally sound meal, none better than the other if that animal is in a loving home. Raw or cooked, Whole Foods will always be superior to processed packaged foods in the right balance. But if an owner doesn’t have the time to take to deep dive into thoroughly educating themselves, then dry dog food is a perfectly acceptable alternative. A fed dog in a loving home is far better off than those in a shelter without a home, even if they’re being fed processed packaged foods. Just know that this is merely a come back, a raw diet is by no means *new* like you’ve stated. Might be new to this generation but it’s certainly not new in the truest sense of the word. Quite literally, people have been doing this for hundreds if not thousands of years.
When I told my holistic vet about wanting to feed my puppy a raw diet, he warned me about potentially feeding an unbalanced diet. Shortly after, I came across videos by Dr. Karen Becker and her recipes for a well balanced diet. Dogs need a protein rich, moisture rich diet to thrive. For example: 2 lb ground beef, 1.5 lb ground chicken wings, 1 oz beef liver, 1 oz spinach, 1 oz sweet peppers, 1 oz blueberries, .5 tsp basil and .5 tsp ginger. Sometimes he eats better than I do. LOL
My dog eats better than I do daily .... Similar to you dashhound 230gram of mixed meat but I've got dark berrys fruits dark veggies and fermented yhoghurt and she gets cucumber snacks and 3 other herbs that I have in tubs specially for dogs that she gets a spoonful out of each 😂
Took our puppy to our closest vet today. We are feeding 50/50 raw and breeder prescribed kibble and dog is doing great. Vet was aghast by the idea of raw diet... but the conversation was very odd... Me: "We are feeding 50/50 raw and kibble right now" Vet: "Oh the raw diet is a trend and puppies cant get proper nutrients without large breed puppy kibble" Me: "Oh but I try to balance the nutrients and he seems to love it" Vet: "Ya people online say the wolfs always ate raw but if you make curry the wolves drop the raw food and go to the cooked food" Me: "... Ok? But why kibble then? My dog does not prefer kibble" Vet: "But it has the most precise nutrients" ...
I went to vet school and feeding the raw diet is the way to go. All of my books that had to do with nutrition were written by the companies themselves. And these studies are done with the expectation that the companies use properly sourced meats which they absolutely don’t.
There are commercial raw diets in certain pet food stores. Prior to feeding my puppy raw diet, I was so confused on what to give him and switched about 4 times through different brands (Purina, Authority (PetSmart brand), and 2 other AAFCO vet approved brands I can't remember the names. My puppy's breath smelled strangely sweet, he was developing dry flaky skin, and was frequently having some issues with constipation. One day when going to a non big commercial pet store, I saw this funny little dog that looked like a monkey with beautiful fur and bright eyes. The girl behind the counter told me she was on the raw food diet. I decided to try it, but w/caution. I gave my puppy first Primal, then we landed on Instict Raw puppy. The change in my puppies overall well being was very dramatic. His eyes are bright, his skin and fur are soft and no longer flaky, and he doesn't have trouble with constipation anymore. Every time we take him to the vet for check ups they say he is a healthy boy. I was told by a holistic vet nutritionist that all dogs are different and that if my puppy was doing well on it to continue it with incorporating different proteins. I am just speaking from my own experience as a pet owner. I am happy with the raw fresh food diet.
I feed my dogs instinct raw frozen as well, and my 3 dogs have good breath , healthy teeth and gums, nice coats , never had worms, and are the healthiest my vet sees too. It's pricey. But vet bills due to poor health from low quality diet is pricier 😱 Instinct has the wonderful Dr. Wynn ,a Board Certified Veterinary Nutritionist (DACVIM), a credential held by fewer than 100 people in the U.S.! There is passionate professionals out there doing all the hard work and balancing of nutrition!
We fed our dog raw and she was so incredibly healthy, her teethe were white, her poops dissolved fast , her coat was shiny. We will def. do the same with our new puppy. Thankful for being introduced to it. Just like our diets full of things that are harming us the same goes with our pets. Blessings :)
My cat rips out the still beating heart and internal organs of birds, vermin, baby squirrels and once upon a time they dragged home a FULL CHICKEN and plucked it naked through out my house and left it half eaten and still warm on my lounge table. If that's not Raw idk what is, and if they go do that of their own accord instead of going to the food bowl for kibble then surely it'd be more within their food pallet
Cats and dogs do have hunting instinct, but that doesn’t mean the food is necessarily good for them. Dogs and cats in the wild live much shorter lives than those who live on a farm and eat a kibble and home cooked diet. They’re just evolved to still have hunting instincts because that’s what they had to do in the wild.
Keep your cat indoors unless you are ready to loose it. A chicken killing cat is a dead cat to most poultry owners. Plus they spread all sort of disease to humans.
@@kristen1463 Along with the risks of your cat getting hurt, killed or lost >~< It’s best to keep your cat indoors or if you still want them to get fresh air, get a cat harness and leash or a cat condo
2:20... "At this time there's no evidence..." Sure, you could say that... if you ignore the 1930's extensive, multi-generational, 10-year, raw meat vs cooked meat study done on cats, by Dr Francis M Pottenger.
I was surprised to hear that my vet feeds her dog the same raw food that I feed my pets. My pets have been eating PRIMAL raw food for years. I’ve seen many benefits and improvements
There is also ‘raw like’ kibble such as Tribal which is cold pressed and locks in a lot more nutrients than your baked/extruded kibble! It digests just like raw but it’s the convenience of having it in a kibble form and not having to defrost etc! So interesting to see what everyone’s opinions are on feeding their pet!
I did months of research before getting my 2 dogs because I knew I wanted to start them off on Raw. They love it and so do I since I know exactly what their eating. Very Healthy pups ^w^
my vet was thrilled to hear my baby started eating real nutrition. i go to affordable animal hospital where they truly live up to the name and my clifford *runs* to the door to meet his vet which is why i keep going back instead of finding on closer to me he really loves her
As someone working in a clinic, the biggest question I have about raw diets is this: do raw diets help manage chronic health problems in pets? The vast majority of the kibble and canned foods we have are designed for managing health problems such as GI sensitivity, diabetes, urinary issues, and kidney support. My clinic works with cats primarily, so I've seen a number of blocked cats recover from crystals with supportive care and a urinary diet designed to break down the crystals. That being said, I'm curious as to whether a raw diet could accomplish the same since many blocked cats become blocked from eating bad kibbles like Friskies.
Hi! I do go over this in other videos, but yes it not only facilitates certain health issues (for instance, UTD - because of the high moisture content, cats are less likely to develop urinary crystals. Their body is no longer in a constant state of acute dehydration, and their urine is less concentrated.) But, it helps prevent certain health issues from even occuring (for instance, kidney disease) if you're interested, these are the videos I go over this: ua-cam.com/video/pMaqrkFlxOs/v-deo.html | ua-cam.com/video/WLOLmqRWcWs/v-deo.html | ua-cam.com/video/U8sb0KkSqxE/v-deo.html
My cat changed from wet to raw after his stomach was destroyed on wet food. He even refused canned because how sick he got him. My vet seems very happy with how he looks and acts
Honestly my vet’s biggest concern was the chance of bacteria being transferred from the dog to us when he licks us. That was about it, other than that she suggested adding supplements. But meat is so high and running short, I feel overwhelmed buying it for the dog when people may need it.
I actually want to do a premade raw, as it is recommended to me by a nutritionist, especially since most kibbles contain chicken in some way, and my boy is allergic to it. Small amounts here and there don't bother him, but constantly in his food it will make him sick. I currently use vital essentials treats, and a kibble, but I want to switch him fully to raw food.
My cat is also allergic to chicken. We're still on prescribed allergic kibble, but our vet will try to make us a plan of raw diet since we highly request it and they do it for their own cats as well.
thank you for the video. im still pretty unconvinced that there is a marked difference between high quality wet and raw but i am at least interested including raw bones in my cat’s diet
All the commercial pet foods on the shelf for years, what type of nutrition they contain? I really doubt. I feed my dog on BARF, they are super heathy. My labrador even doesn't shed a lot, her coat is shinny
You don't need expensive, long term studies to read an ingredient panel showing unhealthy BHT and BHA used as preservatives. (I'm looking to you, Hill's.)
I think it's interesting how most of us stick to dry VS raw - wet (not raw) is a great alternative to dry food! I hope we see some studies comparing wet VS raw, since wet food itself usually trumps dry in health benefits. "Your vet is not your enemy" cannot be emphasized enough. Veterinarians are NOT "bought out by big kibble"! Unfortunately, many are still relying on old nutrition wisdom and the field of nutrition (both for humans and animals) is a fluid field with changing information. It's not because your vet is out to get an extra buck from kibble makers, it's because they lean on tried and true sources of food. There are a lot, though, who no longer recommend dry food. It's soooo easy for owners to jump to thinking they know best, whether it's giving burger and eggshells to a dog or giving human painkillers to their cat. Rely on and trust your vets some more!
Most vets are corrupt. That's the sad truth. Ask your vet what food they recommend, next ask them to read the ingredients, next ask them why a dog needs corn, wheat and soy which are totally inessential fillers that cause allergies. Tell me what they say.
@@chrishayes5755 I have this same problem with my old boy of a cat. He's never had kidney stones, cancer, tumors, nor has he lost any teeth and is the old age of 15 years and getting close to the rainbow bridge. The vets say it's a miracle that he never got any troubles until much older where now arthritis and chronic kidney disease are kicking in. His chronic kidney disease progresses, but I think the old boy will go on his own time and not to the disease. And what's the main ingredient of the kibble the vet recommended? CORN...for a cat with kidney troubles. He's been fed for almost all those 15 years on a raw diet, I've no doubt it helped him get this far. He can no longer eat raw meat as he can't push it through, and so I've had no choice but to switch to a canned food and what happened to those beautiful white teeth almost immediately, the same ones the vets admired and said was amazing and looked like a 2 year old cat's teeth? They started getting plaque on them and yellowing. I'm proud my boy will go out on his terms, no matter how much the ache of loss will hit us as he was a very good cat and helpful to us in many ways, I'm glad we helped him to do this the way he helped us in his own ways.
I dare say, a lot depends of how reliably one can get fresh, good quality meat and offal in their area. Wasn't a problem when I lived in larger cities with good meat markets in Latvia, have had unpleasant surprizes when buying human food intended raw meat in UK . Also, vets probably encounter enough people who simply are too careless to do raw feeding properly, and that might skew their opinion against raw feeding for the average pet and owner.
I feed mostly raw. I always add in supplements and a bit of premium wet cat food just to be sure I have everything covered (3oz of canned for every 8-12oz of raw). I use quality kibble as treats and occasionally as a topper just to keep things interesting and ensure if something happens to me, the cats will eat whatever they have to until I can return.
Nice, unbiased video. Naturally there's tons of people in the comments who are only here to push their beliefs, despite your suggestion to remove the ear plugs :/
We have 4 dogs. An older dog and puppies that have been with us since they were born. The little girl started to get stomach problems at about 4 months old. We changed food but her problems didn’t clear up. So I decided to try a “raw” diet. While it’s a little more expensive it totally cleared up her stomach issues. The other awesome thing that happened was our 12 year old dog now runs around like a puppy! He can actually play with his children now and he doesn’t cry anymore because his hips are hurting. That was really terrible. We would go to move him and he scared me he cried so hard. ALL better now. I know super long story but I also had my mom change my grandmas 15 year old chihuahua over too. The dog actually eats all his meals now and he plays! He NEVER played before, not with other animals or humans. He was overweight and he has a wicked bad skin itchy thing going on. He would hide under things and use them to scratch his back. All that was cleared up by the month mark. Please just make sure your following recipes that make sure their daily requirements are met. I give all my dogs a daily supplement with their food to make sure since three of them are puppies and the older dog also gets a turmeric type pill too as extra help for his joints.
As soon as I saw ingredient list of all these purina, royal csnin etc where most ingredients are corn, soy, grain, potatoes... I stoppwd listening to vets food suggestions whatsoever. It's so hard to find food without grain or other crappy things, I might as well go full raw and know exactly what my cat eats and change some ingredients if needed
@@kourtenaydolmos7020 I dont have that brand where I live but I found Carnilove which seems to have a great ingredient list and if I buy bigger bags during sales, it's a great price too :) But it's honestly the only brand here that's actually good. There is Ontario which is kinda ok too, but my cat has some kind of allergies to Ontario wet and dry food. We're just going raw now and he can have carnilove dry food when he feels like crunching on something.
Purina, Royal Canine etc...are all big/main name brands, most big super markets sell these brands especially Purina. Cheap too, so it sells to millions of customers hence more fillers to satisfy the demand. You can buy soy, corn, grain etc free food they are just more expensive and more commonly found in pet stores only and not your local wal mart. We feed our kittens a combination of wet and dry food and neither contain the ingredients that are damaging to cats. After recommendations and research we decided on Hills Science Diet, as much hate as that brand may also get, all brands get hate. Hill's have had a recall a few years back, in fact was quite a big one, but it has had the least amount of recalls out of most named brands. By no means am I denying or excusing the recall though. Hill's also has options of a diet or ingredients that suit your needs. We almost went with other brands like Blue Buffalo, but questioned the fact it is sold just about everywhere. I can buy Blue Buffalo at a main grocery food chain I work at, but once it is sold on every shelf, things like the content of fillers go up to make it cheaper to be able to sell at places like Meijer, Wal Mart etc. It can happen too. A pet food that was once sold in pet stores only has had seen it's ingredients change when going to a big box store. I assume because once that brand gets carried on the big shelves, the demand goes up tremendously, hence more production. The biggest problem with cats is kidney failure and bladder infections etc. I am shocked no one has mentioned this in any of these comments. What makes cats prone to kidney failure is not dry food alone, it is actually more the Ash content and fillers in big name brands. Hill's had the least amount of ash content and same with lack of fillers. That is what made our decision. Both my husband and I have had cats that died too young or not even too young, but from horrible kidney failure and infections. So when I researched this time around on what to feed our new kittens was what causes the kidney failure and massive common problem in cats health. Something else people will roll their eyes at is animal biproducts.....Um in the wild animals eat most of the animal. Bi-products just mean other ingredients from the animal than the actual meat. Ingredients are yes important, but I think the most important to watch out for is corn fillers, ash content etc. We are considering a raw food diet, but need to do plenty of more research before making the switch because we want to do it the right way. There are name brands that are safe for both cats and dogs, you just need to do the equal amount of research as you would with a raw diet. What attracted me to hills was the low ash content, less fillers and the amount of research they actually do put into their food. They may do some of the most research than most brands I know or from what I saw. Maybe I am wrong. Every brand gets hate, you just need to do the research for yourself and do what is best for you and your animal/animals. My vet suggested Fancy Feast kitten food, Purina One kitten chow....After researching I decided that was not the best choice and I could find something more suiting for my cat's needs.
I feed my animals taste of the wild They are healthier than ever And many actually ask if they are on a raw diet and I laugh.But I'd rather feed my Dogs good kibble than risk my family getting a possibility deadly Parasite virus bacteria etc. Especially with some people being immunocompromised that could mean death for them a human life is way more important than a dog eating raw imo. 80 percent of raw meat has Bacteria in it it's just a matter of time before you your pet or someone you love gets very sick from that. Even cooking the food would be way healthier for them don't see why so many want raw my guess that It's a trend. And my pets love kibble it's not like your dog cares about taste they don't have tate like we do.
What people fail to realize about veterinary and medical (and nutritional, etc) degrees is that the curriculum for those programs are heavily influenced by corporations with a financial interest in what these students/graduates are taught. If you go to medical school (at least here in the United States) your curriculum was essentially bought by Big Pharma, which is why no matter what the ailment, you're taught to prescribe a *patented product* to "treat" (not treat, just hide the symptoms of) the disease. Dog food manufacturers do the same thing. It's also why I get harassed to update my dog's vaccines every year. How can there be "no evidence" that the raw food diet is good for dogs (or humans) when that's what was eaten for thousands of years? Give me a break. They mean there's no "bought" evidence. It costs money to do studies and trials. Corporations with deep pockets are incentivized to pay for those kibble studies. Who's got millions to pay for raw-food studies? And who would stand to gain from that? You can't patent what's natural. You can't patient "chickens." But once you GMO sometime, that's where the money's at. When a vet (or doctor or nutritionist) tells you something that intuitively doesn't make sense, it's because they were brainwashed into thinking their degree means they're experts on a topic instead of being an expert on what someone / some corporation with deep pockets wants them to know.
Kinda disappointed it wasn't brought up that there are companies that make pre prepared and balanced raw diets that are available in a lot of pet stores an online. A few that come to mind are Primal, Stella & Chewy, Instinct, Lotus, Steve's, Answers, etc. All of these diets meet AAFCO standards, which are the exact same nutrition standards that all kibble meets. Not to mention as far as bacteria concerns go many of these raw companies test every batch that they produce at a 3rd party lab for salmonella and e coli after everything is flash or pressure cooked to kill bacteria (I know for sure Primal does this, I'm fairly certain Stella's does as well.) Its unfortunate that its not common knowledge Purina, Hills, and Royal Canin sponsor vet clinics and vets nutrition training. Especially after the irresponsible DCM study that was released unfinished and scarred so many people out of feeding a much higher quality kibble and their vet shoving Pro Plan down their throat instead.
All these foods has too high percent of bones, also most has many recalls because of salmonella etc. Maybe in few countries there are few responsible persons but in mine every single idiotic person that has read an article becomes a raw food producer
I don't have a problem with a raw diet and supplement with that myself, but the idea that pet dogs and cats evolved the same way as wild animals is insanely ignorant.
I think they're gut acid and microbiome is different. Plus the raw animals that they eat in the wild is different from grocery store meat- they weren't raised in meat mills and slaughterhouses.
Okay but you need to know commercial pet food, dried kibbles made of starch,corn, wheat and meat powder only exist no more than 100yrs. If pets had no kibbles to eat 100 yrs ago what were they eating back then? Cats and dogs are carnivores they couldn't live on by just eat bread and rice. You can also cook your pet's raw diet if worry about parasites and bacteria.
Cats and dogs are domesticated animals it doesn't mean they have evolved into some animals can only eat processed food in just 100 years since commercial pet food was invented. Don't forget cats and dogs do hunt living animals sometimes (especially cats) even they have owners.
I switched my chocolate lab from diamond naturals which is rllllyyy good kibble 6 years ago, to raw and hes 16 and you’d think he was a puppy and he has been cancer free for the past 16 years which is a shocker as you know labs and retrievers are known to have joint issues and cancer. I love raw and will not be going back
We recently lost our dog of ten years. He had cancer and we question our decisions on nutrition. He would have a burger if we had fast food. We wouldn't read ingredients on treats. I was only a kid, and so many people here did it at the time. We didn't think twice. It was also 2011 so we didn't have much information. I found this very informative. We are getting a new pup in a year and a half, so we are doing lots of research of what would be the best option for this dog. We will be doing kibble since it's what we can afford. But I'm considering getting supplements and vitamins. Adding nutritious things into the kibble so make sure they're getting everything they need. Koda was only ten and was a healthy dog, he should have lived longer. He was out for walks every day, very loved, had good hygiene and was a good boy. We want to do things differently this time. ❤
You will be adding nutrients to the kibble but you will not be removing the problems that are in the kibble. It's still like feeding them junk food everyday. Adding vitamins to McDonald's is still McDonald's.
We’ll but in that logic humans should be eating raw meat because back when we didn’t know how to do fire we ate raw. Not acutely against the raw diet, it makes sense to me but your argument is a logical fallacy, since dogs have been dogs and not wolfs they’ve been around humans that can cook meat.
@@BF4ClanTBS can’t compare humans and cat/dogs evolution. We’re very far from what we used to be when we masters fire. They’re pretty much the same. Try going naked in the wild and survive, you couldn’t. They could and still do.
Absolutely true in the wild feral dogs wild dogs and such do not purchase kibble they feed on Raw scraps or pray that they hunted down themselves and they're much healthier for it
@@serginaru it took us six months or trying many different kibbles to realise they just didn't work for him. The minute he was on raw he was so much better, no upset stomach which by the way for him can be life threatening so I'm glad I made the change. I don't really care if this argument is weak because I'm not saying people need to feed raw it just it works for my dog way better than any kibble ever did.
So the discussion is about raw vs kibble, but why not cook the food to remove contamination? Is it too much effort? I mean, beef and chicken are mostly fine because they have no nasty parasites, but fish and pork do, and dogs are every bit as susceptible as people. And for another thing, while the dogs are equipped to handle salmonella, people aren't, and when they eat raw, their mouth gets the bacteria, which can then spread to any surface they sniff or lick.
Is this okay? Im thinking about feeding my cat that I’m getting tomorrow, this type of diet. Breakfast: raw diet, little fruit, sometimes raw egg,a little vegetable to digest food. Dinner: Kebble, sometimes raw egg, little fruit. Please tell me if I should add anything! I’m a new cat owner, I’ve really never had a dog or cat. I’ve been researching for months to make sure I have everything and not harm my animal in any way possible! Thanks for your time, plz answer.
I don't feed my animals raw (yet) but I still handle raw meat when I cook. I imagine its the same thing with handling raw food for pets. Wash your hands!
Yeah no kidding. All the arguments against raw because "you'll get sick from handling it" go out the window when the same person preps a raw chicken for grilling and doesn't sanitize the work surfaces afterwards....
If you get sick from handling meat because you don’t wash your hands, what do you think that contaminated meat is going to do to your poor dog when it eats it raw? Wild animals eat fresh meat that they kill themselves. You are buying meat at a grocery store that has been sitting around for a week growing bacterial cultures. Cook that stuff first. You want to feed non processed foods that’s great. Cook it.
@@clandes7ineindya154 dogs and cats, like all carnivores have digestive tracts designed to handle raw meat. Animals in the wild do not only eat their meat fresh. They revisit kills, bury meat for later, etc. Humans have longer digestive tracts to break down plant matter, so when we eat contaminated food, that bacteria spend 3x longer inside our gut, multiplying and making us sick.
@@DaniS398 So where is your evidence that it is healthier to feed a raw meat than a cooked one? Have you ever had to euthanize a 4 year old sweet black Lab that was seizuring uncontrollably from bacterial meningitis from eating a raw diet? Have you ever had to surgically deobstipate a dog that was fed raw turkey necks because he refused to defecate because his stool was full of sharp bone shards? I don't want to argue with you because raw diet proponents view this as a religion that they believe on faith and no evidence, so I am not going to change any minds. But for my sake, cook your meat, so I never have to see these horror stories ever again.
@@clandes7ineindya154 commercial dog food is less than 80yrs old. Do you think turn of the century people qere cooking meals for their dogs and cats? They were eating raw food and table scraps. My evidence is carnivore anatomy and physiology. A handful of unfortunate cases does not fact make. Plenty of domestic dogs and cats worldwide thrive on balanced raw diets.
My dog is allergic to meat proteins. We tried all kinds of diets through our vets. Grain free, chicken free, duck, turkey, beef, rabbit, kangaroo, and raw. None of which he did well on. Eventually he was recommended a vegan diet and is now 14 years old and doing great. So many people attack us for feeding him vegan even though his vet recommended it. Some dogs do well on it. Not all dogs can thrive on the same diets. Commercial or raw- many dogs with severe allergies can't do either.
How about this: Vet loses a client if he recomends the healthy choice of food. Thats why they are against raw food. Do you think our grand parents fed their dogs with kibble? Dogs ate scraps or if they were lucky they ate off the table.
Damn i wonder what dogs found in tribes eat. Vets just want to make money. At the same time make sure the meat has been cleaned to remove factory chemicals...just in case
I really enjoyed this video! I’m a vet tech and I think all the points you covered are exactly why vets don’t like recommending raw diets. 2 things I would emphasize is that with food safety, salmonella and e. coli can live in pets mouths for weeks at a time and not harm them BUT can harm YOU, so if you feed raw it’s not a good idea to let them kiss your mouth or lick children hands! Also a lot of people who feed raw are usually against grains b/c they think wolves (dogs and wolves are TWO different species but people don’t care) don’t eat grains but in reality when wolves eat an animal they also eat the stomach, which has grains in it! Also there’s new research showing that a grain free diet can cause cardiomyopathy (a heart condition) so be careful! If you fed raw please PLEASE make sure it actually has all the nutrients, I know someone that only feeds their dog ground turkey and sweet potatoes 😭😭
the heart problems aren't linked to a lack a grains but a presence of potatoes and legumes. when most pet food companies offer a grain free option they usually replace the grains with those other things.
Took a college course on veterinary nutrition blatantly sponsored by and promoting Purina. I distinctly recall the course trying to assure me a lot of things which were bad for humans were fine for dogs and cats (despite my other, unsponsored classes assuring me cats and dogs have far more delicate digestive systems.) I was even more weirded out when my parents' vet said they had the same course and it was 'really good'.
Vets are against them because they’re really easy to mess up. For the average dog owner honestly kibble is just a safer option. A vet honestly shouldn’t be recommending raw to someone they believe will mess it up and cause harm to their animal, so I’m glad most vets don’t recommend it. If you can do it correctly, fine, but don’t get mad at vets when most of the time they’re just recommending the safest option for the average pet owner. Also people talk bad about vets until their animal has to go in for an emergency. You want food advice, go to a nutritionalist and do your own research. If you’re feeding raw and your dog is showing health issues and your vet recommends a diet change, they went to school, they have had some amount of nutrition training, not an amount compared to a nutritionist but still training, they aren’t your enemy.
Keep in mind veterinarians actually have very little training in their courses about nutrition. I had to take an extra 2 years in veterinary nutrition on top of my 4 year standard veterinary courses to be a board certified nutritionist. Vets and vet offices can become just as biased as anyone else because of the lack of education or because they have made a brand deal to recommend a certain brand like royal canin. Seek a nutritionist for your dietary needs is your safest bet.
It's something I have heard, and even something some of the vets I've worked with have admitted, but I felt a little uncomfortable stating it because there are so many on forums saying how they got a great overview in nutrition. So I just didn't want the controversy lol. Absolutely agreed though.
@@PawsofPrey my total unit time on nutrition was 3 weeks. I was livid because that is not what was outlined in the information packets before enrollment. I ended up taking a 2 year course after the fact. I then found my passion in native Albertain carnivores and omnivores. Bears, gray wolves, coyotes, lynx, wolverines, pine Martins and cougars. I took on zoology and am now working in the Wild Canada section of the Calgary zoo. I am responsible for all these animals nutrition and even in a zoo setting, veterinarians generally are not part of our nutrition team. We work with them but they are not above us.
@@devyncampbell4860 What a dream job!! You're awesome!
a lot of vet would recommend dog food cuz they know is just easier for the owner
some owner I have met make there own food but it doesn't meet the dietary need
I had a crazy owner coming in and tell me that they have been putting there dog on an all
fruit diet.
@@doglover-xg1kh yeah, seeing people promoting a vegan diet for cats on websites for pet advise I'm not surprised that people do the same with dogs.
my vet sells raw food in their office! not all vets are against raw but most of them are
mine does too!
That's great!!
Same here! I'm super glad about it
That’s awesome. The vets I work under don’t approve of it. I am making the switch for my pups.
Mine has 2 large freezers of raw dog & cat food
It's crazy that natural things in this society get pushed away and then we all discover them again stunned.
It's even natural for human to eat raw meat.
@@magdalenavegan yeah and a free trip to the hospital
@@alipetuniashow I eat raw meat for more than 3 years
"natural" doesn't equally good/healthy..
And also everything "natural" is chemical like the water , fruits , vegetables , humans air etc..
@@magdalenavegan just because you haven't die that doesn't mean your perfectly safe and healthy..we have studies that show that is very bad for our health and it can be addicted..
Humans are Not carnivores our system can not benefit from meat especially from raw meat..
We get better nutrients from fruits (that's why we can eat them raw) and vegetables
My dog was going lame in both his back legs. The vet said he needed surgery and he wouldn’t be 100% even after the surgery. I didn’t want to put him through surgery. I started giving him fish oil and noticed an improvement. So, I stopped giving him dog food and started giving him salmon, sardines, steak, chicken….he stopped limping and started running and playing like nothing was ever wrong with him. He prefers his meat slightly cooked. That’s okay with me because he’s an only child now. ❤
Thanks, going to try that, mine has been limping for few months now, high vet bill got us nowhere so I bought joint supplements and recently fish oil. Still limping with the supplements but I see she starting to walk to the garden again to do her business, I was picking her up and carrying her just so she could get grass and sun...maybe its the fish oil. Also been giving her green powders, turmeric, collagen, bone broth, at least I don't see her getting worse. I'm here as the last resort, I want to try some raw food, even seared to test and see how that goes. She does not eat kibble, sometimes I mix a handful into her food.
My dog is old and has cyst. Do you cook the meat. What about portion size, and feeding schedule?
Thanks.
@judy8301 raw diets do wonders if done correctly. They are not for the faint of heart. I spend 3 hours a week doing meal prep for 2 bullies. Remember based on weight %10-20 of there daily diet MUST contain organ meats. I rotate chicken lamb and beef livers, kidney and heart sometimes all of the above. Plus occasionally giblets and stomach if i can find it. Dont over use livers! Also your dogs must have calcium and fibre. I give each dog each meal x1 chicken neck or wing. Sometimes a raw or boiled egg with shell(shell is high in calcium) a couple times a week. For fibre i steam and puree pumkin, sweet potato and carrots 50-80 grams per meal . Plus i add an omega 3,6,9 suppliment oil every meal as well as a fish oil tablet and 30 grams of sardines in spring water(out of a can NOT THE SARDINES IN OIL) As a treat a tea spoon of cottage cheese and 3 slices of cucumber and 4-5 frozen blueberries. Maybe a big slice of apple watermelon or mango if im indulging my self. Use greens like broccoli, beans, peas and spinach if you can, my hate them otherwise i would use more. Finally to regulate there system i give a pre/pro biotic once sometime twice a week or occasionally spinkle in pysllium husk in the selected meat. If your dog is having joint problems look into green lipped mussles supplements. Green lipped mussles are very healthy for humans and pets alike. They also contain chondroitin which is good for joint health. If you can get your dog to ingest Tumeric thats a good way to go 2.
Natural raw diet with fish oils, green lipped mussels, Tumeric and a probiotic..... you will see a difference in a matter of days!
GOOD LUCK!
@@manimal319 thank you for the advice, going to give it a try.
@@manimal319 Thanks for taking the time to share such an extensive write up, and wealth of information. Is there a suitable substitute for gut food? I was thinking Hot dogs, or liverworts, (something like that). My dog is on her last days, and doesn't have a huge appetite. I need food that stores well in the fridge, and is simple to make for when she get hungry. Raw food isn't something we can leave in the bowl all day, and too expensive to waste.
Love this video. We've been feeding our 2 french bulldogs raw for 7 years. Vet wasn't thrilled at first, believing kibble was as nutritionally complete as anything needed to be. At the time we were really struggling with GI and allergy issues with our dogs. After a discussion with the guy who sold us the commercial pet food, HE actually recommended we try raw, and I discussed with Vet. I told vet we'd start with a pre-proportioned (proper allocations of bone, muscle, organ), then grind own with very careful calculations. We agreed to do annual blood tests to make sure things remained in balance. I used many references from canine nutritionists. End result? Vet says our dogs are healthier than any of her other patients. Blood results are perfect. Allergies and GI issues gone. Most recent conversation with our vet had HER asking ME for the sources for our dogs' raw diets so that she could help her clients!. At the same time we are in agreement that if people do it wrong, it could be catastrophic. I hope more vets take on the education of pet nutrition so that they can help their clients' pets live longer & healthier lives.
That's a really wonderful story I am so glad that there is a vet out there that can be open-minded. A lot of times after all that school that they have to go through to do what they're doing they think they know everything and everybody else is stupid. Kudos to the open-minded veterinarian 7 years ago LOL
Woww! I have a dog who has constant skin allergy throughout the year on and off . Vet asked us to switch to hypoallergenic diet which my dog hates( he generally hates kibble). He doesn't eat food properly. Since we stopped giving boiled chicken since a month and his allergies aren't visible. I want to go raw on him. Can I try raw chicken or some other meat?
@@dr.chandrikaavuti3230 I would avoid Chicken, unless it is free range, naturally raised and organic ideally. Chickens that are raised on small places with barely no sunlight and no access to other food other than soy, corn, etc., have a omegal in balance in them (more Omega 6), which causes inflammation.
@@teddy2979 Thank you 😁
@@dr.chandrikaavuti3230 If it's accessible to you, I normally give my dogs Quail or Turkey for poultry meat. If you can find Goat that's great for red meat. My dog is is fed various proteins in rotation. She's not spoiled in clothes, etc., but definitely pampered in nutrition (along with my 19 year old). She's fed Goat, Rabbit, Llama, Kangaroo, Quail, Bison,, Venison, Bison, Quail, Turkey, Lamb, Beef, Chicken and one day fasting a week. They get about 3 different meat proteins every week (pre-made).
Cats are obligate carnivores. You don't need a study to tell you that.
No kidding.
Yes but wild cats have a much shorter life expectancy. Of course you could argue that they most likely die from other reasons but it could also be they dont live long enough to know the risk of raw food diet.
Wild cats die sooner because of a) predation; b) man-made causes (cars, poisons) and d) age-related--inability to hunt; and e) killed by prey/ same specie/different specie competitor. If raw diet was a problem, no wild predator will be left alive from the beginning. Cats, especially, were not domesticated to eat corn, soy, brown rice etc. in barns. You let a cat out and majority of them will hunt, domesticated enough. Kibble on the other hand and improperly made cooked food, has killed and caused so much more related problems from organ and metabolic issues.
@@teddy2979 Humans also start off eating raw, they also have a lot less diseases (most likely because they dont live long enough for these diseases to develop and reasons you stated above as well), do you suggest we go back to eating raw as well? How do you suggest cats deal with worms coming from raw meat? Keep in mind that dewormers are actually poison.
@@vc7417 Hi, AC...cat biology and human biology are different. Cats are classified (and dogs) as carnivores by Smithsonian institute Taxonomists and ethologists (people who actually do this for a living). It is a scientific fact. Cats and dogs have not "evolved" to eat processed food (although dogs can survive more on it than cats longer). We have change to morphology of cats and dogs for sure, but not their DNA, dentition, digestive tracts. The parasite scare is what many people who are not aware to discourage raw. Yes, there are parasites/pathogens in raw food, but dogs and cats, unless they are immunocompromised, which need special handling, have the enzymes in their mouths and the right acidic levels in their guts to deal with them, along with a healthy immune system. The National Research Council, which pet food companies based their self-funded studies on, will tell you head on that dogs and cats even need ZERO carbs to survive. The fact that many non-meat diets have to be cooked in order for their nutrients to be unlocked says a lot as it is. If truly raw was dangerous for carnivores, we would have seen mass extinctions of carnivores; the same goes for herbivores if we fed them cooked "grass, etc." No animal in this planet eat cooked food except humans because we are so far removed from nature, and we indeed have evolved to eat more processed and cooked food. Believe it or not, for Sushi, for example, it is healthier for you raw because the nutrients are not destroyed b cooking, BUT unfortunately human intervention in the oceans (mercury, pollution etc. makes it a problem). For cats and dogs, as with processed kibble, you have to obviously watch out for sourcing. If one does not know how to feed raw properly and handle them, I would not recommend them either.
When I was fostering 6 kittens and their mom, I went to the vet and asked them what to feed the little kittens after they weened off, I was given a suggestion of kitten specific canned food, I of course picked it up. I was giving mom some raw fish and raw chicken and one day I noticed that she grabbed a whole piece and took it to the kittens herself, I was amused so I followed. She brought the raw fish to her kittens and they just all jumped on it, biting into it as if they never ate before, It was too adorable, they even growled at each other. I cut up the piece and gave them all so they could all have enough. Nature, eh?
That's ADORABLE!
Please be very careful and considerate with using a raw diet on cats. They require certain amino acids and vitamins in their diet that dogs do not, if you give a cat the same raw diet as a dog it will die! (goes for dog kibbles as well, never feed a cat kibble food meant for dogs). I´m not saying its not possible to feed cats a raw diet, but its very hard und requires a lot of research. In my opinion giving a cat some raw food in addition to a kibble diet is probably the better and safer method.
I love this! Talk about mother knows best.
@@livvy8919 so I know that cats shouldn’t eat dig food but what am I supposed to do when the cat eats the dog food by itself (ie dog bowl is unattended and cat goes up and eats out of it)
@@itsrue7216 its not that the dog food is poisonous for the cat. It's not a problem if it eats the food, as long as the cat also gets proper cat food as a main meal. It's only a problem if people feed their cat dog food only. If your cat mainly eats cat food, which has all the important stuff supplemented, it will be fine;)
Theres a difference between a raw diet and feeding your dog chicken and rice.
Raw is naturally how a dog would it. They cant make fire and the boil water needed to make chicken and rice. Also do to the rice dogs can have issues. Legumes are another thing to research and make your own conclusions.
@@wherethemoneywent humans can though and dogs evoled with humans.
So you do need to take into account the effect we have had on dog nutitrional needs.
@@starandfox601 give a dog a bowl of kibble and a bowl of raw meat which will they want?? Raw. They are hunters. Play some animals sounds see how they react. Itll click unless they were taught their instincts were bad.
@@wherethemoneywent did I say give your dog kibble?
Dogs have hunted along side humans eating what we eat.this has resulted in them needing a varied diet including grains other wise there can be serouis health effects.also raw may not be good for them cuase 1 they have a weaker stomach then wolves and 2 grocery store meat isn't exactly fresh or the best and can be loaded with parasites and other nasties.
Serouisly stop pretending your dog is a wolf/wild animal.or that are is harmless.
@@starandfox601 sounds like you think bread is nutritious. And I would never eat nor feed disgusting grocery store meat Im well versed in health thanks.
A veterinarian told me to start feeding my dogs raw, because of allergies they got from dry food.
They don't have them any more, and they are much happier getting this food.
I'm happy it was recommended and helped the issue!
Mine too! He loves meal time. He has also lost a ton of weight. He still thinks he is starving though lol. He is a glutton.
We found an elderly stray beagle who was allergic to apparently everything. We tried a raw meat diet with her and eventually discovered she had a reaction to beef, less with chicken, none with lamb but that's impossible to find. With research, we created a vegetarian diet for her and our other dog. Molly passed away of old age completely allergy free and our Max is going strong.
Oh my! That’s rare!
@@carolann811 WHAT!! That's different
Feeding your pets kibble is as good as feeding your kids nuggets
Don’t disrespect chicken nuggies like that😂
@@foodiefelo7904 or any processed food at all mate
I love processed food tho
Facts!! My friend
@@austin2739 loving poision isn't a good thing incase u didn't know
The raw diet has been around since single celled animals have been around.
I can't disagree with that!
Perioddddddd
What’s the safest way to have sex... don’t have sex.
What the hell do these content creators believe most carnivores eat in the wild. Dog Chow from Costco? 😂
...and animal lifespans are shorter in the wild due to disease caused by bacteria.
I'm studying veterinary medicine.
No evidence how TF do wild animals live 😂😂
Vets go provide them purina chow
@@robinsingh9563 lmao I can't 😂
This is a terrible argument. Dogs and cats have much longer lifespans in captivity than in the wild. Just because something is natural doesn’t mean it’s good. Death cap mushrooms are perfectly natural but eating them will still kill you.
I’m not saying raw diets are bad, but “it’s natural therefore it must be better” is literally a logical fallacy.
@@mitchlindgren you realize kibble companies provide the “nutrition class” for the Vets right? How did dogs survive when they were first domesticated?? Prior to “kibble” 🤔 I’ve lost dogs to Caner, Bloat, all from KIBBLE, even the vet stated it was from KIBBLE. Also have you seen the new Recall list for kibble????
@@robinsingh9563 😂😂 DEAD
The truth is most people who do raw diets do it wrong. Now those who’s really take the little time necessary to do it right should see great results!
YES! Raw diets are good only when you do it right and only a small percentage of people take the time to figure out how to
Okay so how do u do it right? Or where does one look to get the right info?
@@moonhoney5527 Great question, I actually made a few videos on this topic. I list all my sources in the description box.
The Prepper Dog EP2 Ultimate Guide for feeding RAW for SHTF ua-cam.com/video/LcQIw68JLA8/v-deo.html
The Prepper Dog EP4 The Most Sustainable Raw Diet ua-cam.com/video/JTrqRp40Yj0/v-deo.html
Hope this helps
@@themyrtlewoodshomestead9371 I can't speak for the OP but this helps me tremendously! Thank you.
@@s.s.9149 Thank you 🙏
I work at a vet and I have to say, you rarely see people doing raw food right. Just this week we had a cat severely sick from raw pet food. He was on the verge of not making it. I'd rather people buy high quality kibble or wet food than half ass a raw diet.
That's what my research on the topic concluded too. Raw done properly is sound. However, very few owners do a raw diet properly. I supplement some with raw food, but the foundation is kibble.
Thats a good way to do it. Have high quality kibble and feed hearts, bones, whatever you want extra. And ensure that it is fresh!! The cat we had at our clinic was severely ill from eating older (not rotting but older) meat and being transitioned from kibble to raw way too quickly
Then inform people, as your job is to do so? If you know it's helpful, just assist those people in the right direction.
Nope... Not my job. I am a vet tech, not an animal nutritionist. We often refer people to animal nutritionists but we would never tell someone to feed raw or how to feed raw. Because if something goes wrong its always "But you told me.....!!" We advise high quality ready made foods. If people feed raw we don't say anything but we will not lie to them if their pet gets sick because of that diet
@@rmoenmjea you don’t have to advice them to switch to raw but by simply telling them to ensure that their raw diet is balanced will suffice. Telling them that dogs and cats have nutritional needs that need to be met. Telling them to consult a nutritionist that specializes in raw diets.
By simply looking the other way is being part of the problem. Take your education serious and talk to pet owners.
For crying out loud…..
so happy that more vets and vet techs are becoming part of the raw movement and ruffling the feathers of big pet companies. Kibble doesn’t cut it. Period!
My grandma remembered a time when dog and cat food were considered weird. The dog and cat got scraps. They lived a long time and didn't have the health issues pets do today.
Your grandma also lived in a time when food wasn’t the garbage we ingest today
@@andycocchia4202 kibble is still worse. Garbage > ultraprocessed garbage
Someone told me they feed a raw diet. I saw it consisted of salami, cottage cheese, eggs and another type of cheese. They were feeding this to their cats!! Obviously I called them out and referred them to nutritional information that was correct but my god. Personally raw has turned out to be so much more affordable than canned and I couldn’t be happier.
What in the world? The imbalanced and flat out wrong "homemade diet recipes" out there are a huge reason vets are against homemade diets. It's unfortunate.
Where can I get info on raw, recipes for cats
@@PawsofPrey agreed. I’d rather someone feed a cheap quality wet food over an unbalanced raw diet
Omg raw doesn’t mean processed meats and dairy! Why do people not research things.
God not god
I genuinely do not believe kibble is balanced for your dog. Raw food is exponentially better when you consultaré with a vet nutritionalist
While I certainly agree, my goal with this video was to speak from an unbiased standpoint and reiterate the conventional veterinarians beliefs!
@@PawsofPreyoh don't get me wrong, I'm really happy you made this video! I'm just a bit upset that vets discourage raw diets instead of providing resources, for example referring them to a vet nutritionalist or giving them a basic outline to follow
@@juliuscaesar8071 I feel you 100% !
@@juliuscaesar8071 Trust me I'm right there with you! Some fortunately do, but they are far and few between at the moment.
Just to be clear, you spoke with a board-certified veterinary nutritionist that stated that a raw diet is healthier than kibble? I find that very hard to believe, as the current AVMA consensus is that a raw-food diet is typically not a recommended option for the majority of households.
While canines ate raw meat for years. Modern canines learned to grow wheat and corn and harvest the necessary food to eat better. Dogs are very picky, only the best food in a dumpster or off the ground is used by them.
As a human health care provider, I can say this is largely how the healthcare system is. Love your take on it.
It's not really about the "responsibility" of giving the okay for a raw diet, it's the fact that owners can slowly and prematurely kill their pets with nutritional deficiencies that cause permanent damage like heart disease. Consult a professional veterinary nutritionist always.
THIS!!!!
Actually, the professional nutritionist I consulted DOES recommend a raw diet.
Also my vet now consults me on what the best raw diet should be. He's admitted he has no first-hand knowledge of raw diets and little in vet school beyond the basics. He quizzed me when we first met six years ago and I explained the supplements added to the raw chicken, the handling procedures for working with raw food and the feeding schedule. He's satisfied with that and we're going on eight years of feeding now 14 cats raw.
@@carolann811 I think thats what the commenter meant. They want people to consult with a nutritionist when doing something like raw to make sure people understand how to completely balance their pet’s diet.
@@carolann811 hello, i couldn't find a video or anything that explains how to make sure the raw food is safe for my cats , i mean how to make sure that the raw food that i will feed them have no pathogens or dangerous bacteria? both my cats have digestion problems , they can only digest Hill's Prescription Digestive care... so i don't think their digestive system is strong enough to fight pathogens and harmful bacteria, so is there anyway i can handle or process the raw food to make sure it is free of harmful stuff ?
@@SusaAndPuppo The only way to handle raw food to make it free of harmful stuff is to heat it to the point of killing the pathogens. But then it's no longer raw.
What kind of digestive issues do your cats have? What happens when they eat? And why does Hill's PDC work for them when other foods don't?
You bring up the salmonella risk but do vets realize that kibble contains salmonella and bacteria too? It’s highly processed and sits on shelves for so long and collects bacteria..
Also, the stomach of the canine is more adapt to deal with salmonella than ours
A dog's digestive system is that of a wolf and can accommodate organic pathogens that can be harmful to humans
There are other bacteria and toxins harbored in raw food aside from salmonella that cannot be killed via freezing only heat. I’ve seen multiple pets sick from bacterial toxins related to raw diets and a patient that actually died from it. It’s not always an issue when you have a healthy dog but if you have an immunocompromised pet or one with underlying disease you’re unaware of, that’s when illness can occur. Commercial dry diets are coated as well as the packaging they come in. They have a shelf life before they begin to collect any bacteria or lose nutrition and once opened and stored in a cool dark place they have a life of about 3 months. I’m not advocating one over the other just pointing out some info/pros and cons.
Actually yes they do the FDA actually has companies recall food for salmonella contamination that has been linked to pets becoming ill or even dying but raw is way more commonly recalled for this reason than dry foods and wet foods. Not saying you can't feed raw just saying it makes sense that there's more risk of it possibly having bacterial contamination
Also when feeding a raw diet Salmonella and E. Coli can live in a dogs mouth for a long time and not cause a problem for the dog but when that dog licks your mouth or a childs hand and that child puts their hand in their mouth, it can make them very sick! So that can be a hazard!
My dog's not on a raw diet, but homemade cooked food.
I only grill the meat on the sides, leaving it basically raw inside. I give him bones and organs too, mainly liver, heart and kidneys. We don't give him chicken or eggs because he's allergic to poultry; plus we give him Omega 4 supplements. Fish is too expensive where I live.
We also give him Greek yogurt sometimes, and vegetables.
All of this, paired with a portion of rice and potatoes.
Our vets were also against BARF, and even raw bones, now I know why! We had to switch to a homemade diet because kibble just didn't work for us, we changed brands 4-5 times, and each time my dog had digestive and intestinal issues. He was lethargic most times and meal times were almost torture for him.
Now he licks the bowl and he's always excited for the next meal, he's more energetic and his fur is brighter and softer, his stool is firm.
He wasn't being pickky, anyway. A few days after we introduced him to homemade food, he was eager to eat kibble; in fact, he loved it and wanted more, but then he had tummy issues again and that's when we asked our vet for blood tests because I was suspecting that my dog was not being picky, he was being sick because of kibbles! My suspicions were soon confirmed, so we never switched back to commercial food, although yes, it is more convenient on all aspects.
I'm so happy you've found something that works for your dog!
Yes. I cook my dogs meat also. I don't live anywhere near a farm. I'll do some other things you've mentioned in comments. Thank you.❤
so right on fish, I cant even afford it for myself 😂
Of course I am no expert but I thought I’d share my experience. I know that my boy’s heart failure was massively due to bad breeding (puppy mill rescue.) He was given three weeks to live at most. Whilst feeding Royal Canin Kibble, he declined extremely quickly. I’m talking a week. I’m a complete pessimist, it’s just the way life has shaped me. If I expect nothing or the bad, then neither of them can upset me. I didn’t believe all the praise the raw diet was getting but I was desperate. I decided on a premade high quality raw food. The improvements in my boy were so beautiful and rapid. He went from deaths door, to like a puppy again!! His heart also shrunk in size to the astonishment of his cardiologist, who even now recommends a raw diet to her other patients! Personally, I will never go back to kibble 🖤
Why were your only two options either kibble or raw? Why not somewhere in between with slightly cooked meat? I don't understand this extremist attitude in the comment sections where it's either A or B. Is there not a balanced medium? Perhaps don't over cook the food, but just enough to rid of anything viral etc? I don't understand what is happening in this comment section...
@@iskywalking420 I think cook foods is good but it's more of the level of nutrition so it would be more of a transition if your pet is picky but Raw is the ultimate ideal grand prize type of food for the pets to eat.
@@iskywalking420 "extremist attitude" because people feed raw.. lmfao pls, you sound dopey. nice attempt at negative framing. dogs stomach acid is much stronger than humans, they're scavengers / omnivores and can handle dirty water / rotten carcasses. a dogs digestive tract is virtually identical to a wolf. what do wolves eat? that's a biologically appropriate diet for a dog. bacteria isn't inherently bad, bacteria is also fundamental to health. dogs instinctively bury meaty bones let them rot in the ground and eat them weeks / months later dogs also eat rotten dead animals if they find them. that bacteria helps shape their microbiome / immune system.
finally when you cook meat you're destroying enzymes, nutrients, bacteria. you're also making the bones more brittle so when they crack they splinter in very dangerous ways. feeding cooked meat with any type of bone is much more dangerous.
@@iskywalking420it’s really no different than when a human is on their proverbial “deathbed” and the medical route has failed them and they choose to go the “holistic” route as a last resort.
i'll just say this: stray cats had been eating raw for thousands of years, and they grew up all ok, and can even give birth to other kitties
I mentioned being interested in feeding raw to a new vet I went to and was very pleasantly suprised to not hear any objections, just warnings and precautions. They brought up how I need to be cautious with how its handled, and I mentioned I was planning on buying pre-made to avoid imbalances and they said that was good. No major objections, which was massively reassuring, a vet I went to before that literally was reccomending I use dry kibble, it hurt my soul
Yeh I get premade 250 gram packets which do me a one day and then she has 2 cubes of dark berry fruits and foremnted yhoghurt and then 3 spoonful of premade herbs for hair skin guts sight teeth and then I have a special natural toothpaste made out of liver 😂 she eats better than me daily
I work at an indoor dog park and see hundreds of dogs throughout the day, I can always tell which ones are on the kibble diet. My little chipin can go 12 hours between bathroom breaks, poops maybe every other day, his coat is always nice and shiny, used to have dandruff
3 dogs dead from cancer, fed regular dog food.
1 19-year-old dog, fed raw and cooked whole foods.
Not a large study, but I think I will continue and keep learning more through researching nutrition.
What brand was the dog food and how much was being fed? Were the dogs overweight and did they have pre-existing health issues? Also what were the breeds? Were they pure bred or mutts?
@@bbycherub2420 not sure about the first dog's food, as I was very young. But he was a Collie.
Other two I believe Purina beneful, cannot recall amount, as this was 20ish years ago.
One Schillerstovare(sp?) And one basset, not sure if pure bred, as both rescues.
Mostly good weight and good health.
20-year-old is beagle German Shepherd mix.
@@hoperoesler Okay thank you, I want to make sure I don't make the same mistakes for my dogs :')
@@bbycherub2420 my pleasure!
I mainly feed 2 cooked eggs for breakfast, a cooked sweet potato for dinner, raw carrots as snacks, raw beef bones, sometimes beef, chicken, or fish
I am starting to incorporate organ meats.
@@hoperoesler oh goodness please include more meat! also raw carrots are going to have a pretty hard time being digested by a dog, if you want a raw plant based snack try berries or something. I'd also recommend a high quality supplement just to cover all your bases. From the sound of it it sounds like your dogs might not be getting enough protein and fat.
I had a 5 year old pittie that had cancer bad enough that the vet wanted to put him down rather than do surgery. We prayed about it and ended up paying for his surgeries, switched his diet to cooked chicken and raw veggies, and he lived to be 17. When he passed, he had never had a bad old age day. He still had his sight, he never had accidents in the house, never got scared and nipped, never even slowed down all that much. One day his heart just couldnt do it anymore. Ive had pitties and been around them all my life, not many live to 17. I would never claim that the diet is fully responsible but I know that was part of it.
Imagine needing a study to tell you animals didn't evolve to eat dehydrated processed mineral chunks. Imagine needing a study to tell you fire is hot
There is so many vets always suggest a kibbles or can food to feed your pets
It's true! It's just the safezone for them.
It's true! It just make sense.
@@PawsofPrey and money-making because the pets get stick and they come to the vet more often...lol
@Zoran Grlic Okay, Zoran, I will give you this. There's no mass study that vets are consciously trying to poison pets with kibble for the sake of business, but do please consider the following:
a) Majority of vets get very LITTLE nutrition training, and as much as 80% of are sponsored by Pet Food companies, with the science being backed by self-funded, not 3rd party tested studies. The only thing pet food companies have proven is that pets can survive, not thrive, on kibble, that's it. They are in the same corner as raw feeders. Now this does not mean the average Joe knows more about the average vet, of course. b) the NRC, where AAFCO bases it's "science" concludes need ZERO - ZERO - carbs to survive. This alone should SAY a lot on the biological needs of dog; c) dogs are classified as carnivores by Taxonomists (if a vet says otherwise, go tell them to argue with Smithsonian Institute that study this for a living; and d) majority of the longest living dogs in the planet (go to Thomas Sandberg's Longest Living Dog Research Project are almost all raw fed. Yes, there are other factors that contribute to longetivity from genetics, products used on them, supplementation, etc., but if you really want to learn about kibble in general no one else will know better about the scrupulous practices of the kibble industry more than Pet consumer advocate Susan Thixon who has dealt with Pet Food companies, AAFCO and the FDA. Now, if someone does not know how to raw feed, then they are definitely better off to feed the highest quality kibble. and there are some dry food that is better than others; freeze dried being superior to any kibble, and more animal, minimally processed better than the rest. I will ignore the fact that you compared me to a conspiracy theorist if you can forgive me for makin a general assumption about all vets (although I have met some that sell dog food in their stores ---clear conflict of interest in my opinion but that's another story. I have been researching raw food for the last 20 years, thank you. Yes, many are anectdotal, but I can tell you for a fact that kibble and dry food has killed FAR MORE than raw diets for pets. It does not even compare. Raw feeding needs people to be educated about a balanced diet but you know what, so do pet owners who blindly trust kibble companies or just because "their vet recommended itl"
Feeding your dog kibble or can't does not matter what's the top of the line canned or kibble none of it is good for dogs or cats
For anyone new to feeding raw, there are now thankfully nutritionally balanced complete raw foods available, so you don’t have to stress about making it yourself and getting the balance right. If you prefer to make your own but are not confident you are able to balance the nutrition, there is also a complete nutrition powder you can add to make sure they are getting everything they need.
There's no need to stress about this. Simply do research. We do need to buy expensive commercially available "raw food gimmicks". That would be making the same people who are selling other dog products rich. Let's instead learn about how to feed our dogs.
@@alvodin6197 no just buy 80:10:10 raw meat and give correct amounts/add sardines and eggs etc and it is the same thing less effort just as healthy, and price difference isnt much different I pay £85 a month to feed my dog raw stress free.
@@alvodin6197 everyone’s trying to get a piece of the pie, especially from small dog-owners like me who don’t pay much to feed my dogs raw meat every month. They don’t want to lose the business
This is what I’ve been wondering bout a lot of them are really $$ I should only have to spend a 1-2$ on his meals (mix lap dog) at the most 3-4. Are there any that are economical?? I’ve just been getting him ground turkey and sweet potato’s😋
Hills funds their 8 hour nutritional course ☠️ I personally haven't seen anyone do raw feeding wrong, the raw feeding owners are generally more educated than vets when it comes to nutrition. A lot of vets/vet techs are incredibly stupid and stubborn. Even things like flea and tick care is something they blindly push onto clients because they're endorsed by them. I decided to keep studying and get my degree in holistic pet care instead of jumping into the field to work at a regular clinic now because I can't stand the clients or the vets.
While these companies do fund a lot of the schools, there are some that simply have board certified nutritionists teach and oftentimes just tell the students to do their own research but give them enough knowledge to understand the nutrition basics. Many vets have said they never had the brands pushed on them in school, but who knows.
@@PawsofPrey did you all the brand bad for our pets!
I highly reccomend consulting a vet nutritionalist! They're specially trained to handle raw diets and can help you supplement for any of your dogs special needs and also make sure they're getting the right balance. You can even do it online :)
Yes, I’ve never seen anyone do it wrong. My dogs are raw fed and they get muscle meat, organs, bone, omega 3 (fish oil tablets and sardines), sometimes eggs 1-2 times a week and fruit and veggies they have been on raw for I’d say almost a year and they love it and it works best for me
@@bearandnalathegoldadors5080 that's great! I do suggest adding in a fresh whole food to fill the zinc, manganese, and vitamin E gaps though!
My 16 year old Jackrusll/ Papillon is loving life with his raw diet. He will say warmed up to body temps is his favorite!
That makes me happy ^__^
These are some great points brought up and re-learning how to feed raw is important. The part I find funny in any video covering this topic is the handling of raw meat, but it's also getting me to think that many no longer have practical kitchen skills if this keeps coming up as a topic.
Yea but even in human food there will be recalls on meats or vegetables sometimes or fast food chains will have an outbreak
No one really takes home economics in school anymore I guess.
At the end of the day vets and doctors follow what they learned off a book. Use your best judgment and do what you think is best.
You think Google is research that's funny how you call Vets out for being wrong when they go to school to learn about the Body of animals such as cat's dogs and others Raw is a trend A potential dangerous one at that It might not show up now but In the future your pet will pay for it. Your not smart from reading a article off of Google.
@@Simplyblondie vets barely get taught about nuititrion.
Also Google articles generally are more informative then vets when it comes to nuititrion.esipceally when it's a bunch of pet owners discussing their experiences or from punished studies in a sceinfic journal.
@@starandfox601 Yes, I trust Google research more than vets, sorry. I think 20 years of Google research trumps 2 hours of nutritional study in vet school sponsored by Mars Purina, thank you.
I feed my dog raw and absolutely love it! Her coat is super soft and shiny! Her poop is also way smaller. If someone wants to go raw I’d recommend getting pre made raw. I buy frozen patties and then add supplements to it. I’ll never go back!
What supplements do you add ?
@@arlenemckenna5990 I add fish oil and a pre/probiotic
is it okay for 6 month old puppy?
@@horrormovielover6725 yes! Your dogs stomach but he a little upset from the change in food but 6 months is totally fine
A few years back I fostered a litter of kittens who were abandoned by a feral mom. They were about a week old when I got them home. They were malnourished and ill, especially the runt. The vet loaded me up with KMR but the kittens just weren't thriving on it and the runt was near death. I did some research and tried raw goat milk. The kittens began eating regularly. When they were about four weeks I began incorporating Radcat and Stella and Chewies. They all THRIVED on the raw diet (since they had a feral mother it stands to reason that raw; aka mice etc, made up their nutrition in utero) and the runt, whom the vet told me was surely going to die, made it. I couldn't part with her, and she's a beautiful five-year-old cat now who has really thrived on a raw diet. I worked with a nutritionist to make sure that her meals are balanced because YES that IS important. I highly recommend raw as it has also helped my dog who had CHRONIC allergies when I adopted her and I transitioned her to raw. BUT work with someone who has done the research and can guide you to make sure you are fulfilling your pet's nutritional needs. If I hadn't given raw a chance starting with the goat milk, I don't know if the litter would have made it, especially my little Rue.
You are an amazing pet owner.
@@elenadejesus7489 I just care about my fur babies’ health and well being... if people don’t they shouldn’t adopt pets
I actually really liked this video because it placed everything in a very neutral way where one side isn't just saying "It's completely dangerous" or "It's completely fine". It helps me with making a decision for myself and being more open to the conversation in the future when I get a pet.
I work in the pet industry in the UK and recently found out vets are only taught nutrition for a day when they are studying. One of the main issues here is that vets know very little about nutrition.
Can't say for UK really. I strongly doubt that statement. It's inaccurate for north america. Please do contact your local university to inquire about their program : )
We learnt at the raw feeding veterinary society conference this year that Anna Hielm-Bjorkman from the university of helsinki has some AMAZING stuff coming out. Its all confidential at the moment though as its not ready but exciting times ahead! Watch this space 😊
OHHH that makes me so excited! Thank you for sharing!
Wow! Great!!!!!!
When
Stuff published at conferences isn't confidential - you can typically find their posters etc online...
Any update on this you could link to?
The raw diet isn't "fairly new". 😆 We're just now getting back to feeding dogs properly, which is the diet they evolved on.
I just experienced this yesterday! I informed my vet that my 11 year old GSD was switched to a raw diet that consisted of; ground beef, beef
liver, chicken hearts, chicken feet, raw eggs with the shell, mackerel, plain kefir, blueberries, dulse granules and a turmeric/sweet potato paste. She straight up told me that I am probably going to kill my dog with bacteria and a lack of macro nutrients. I told her that I spend the time with a scale measuring out exactly each ingredient so that she’s getting everything she needs, and she didn’t want to hear it. Told me that kibble was the best choice and gave me a bunch of literature to prove that processed kibble was better than grade A meats and ingredients for human consumption. I was so shocked
My grandmother cooked for her dogs, always. Every meal consisted of rice and a veg with whatever meat was the star of the show, all simmered in the same pot. Her last dog, before she passed at 97 yrs old herself, lived until he was 19yrs old. I think there are multiple ways of feeding your dogs a nutritionally sound meal, none better than the other if that animal is in a loving home. Raw or cooked, Whole Foods will always be superior to processed packaged foods in the right balance. But if an owner doesn’t have the time to take to deep dive into thoroughly educating themselves, then dry dog food is a perfectly acceptable alternative. A fed dog in a loving home is far better off than those in a shelter without a home, even if they’re being fed processed packaged foods.
Just know that this is merely a come back, a raw diet is by no means *new* like you’ve stated. Might be new to this generation but it’s certainly not new in the truest sense of the word. Quite literally, people have been doing this for hundreds if not thousands of years.
When I told my holistic vet about wanting to feed my puppy a raw diet, he warned me about potentially feeding an unbalanced diet. Shortly after, I came across videos by Dr. Karen Becker and her recipes for a well balanced diet. Dogs need a protein rich, moisture rich diet to thrive. For example: 2 lb ground beef, 1.5 lb ground chicken wings, 1 oz beef liver, 1 oz spinach, 1 oz sweet peppers, 1 oz blueberries, .5 tsp basil and .5 tsp ginger. Sometimes he eats better than I do. LOL
My dog eats better than I do daily .... Similar to you dashhound 230gram of mixed meat but I've got dark berrys fruits dark veggies and fermented yhoghurt and she gets cucumber snacks and 3 other herbs that I have in tubs specially for dogs that she gets a spoonful out of each 😂
Took our puppy to our closest vet today. We are feeding 50/50 raw and breeder prescribed kibble and dog is doing great.
Vet was aghast by the idea of raw diet... but the conversation was very odd...
Me: "We are feeding 50/50 raw and kibble right now"
Vet: "Oh the raw diet is a trend and puppies cant get proper nutrients without large breed puppy kibble"
Me: "Oh but I try to balance the nutrients and he seems to love it"
Vet: "Ya people online say the wolfs always ate raw but if you make curry the wolves drop the raw food and go to the cooked food"
Me: "... Ok? But why kibble then? My dog does not prefer kibble"
Vet: "But it has the most precise nutrients"
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Of course wolves go for the cooked food, it's new and wolves are curious. Your vet is not thinking. 😂
I went to vet school and feeding the raw diet is the way to go. All of my books that had to do with nutrition were written by the companies themselves. And these studies are done with the expectation that the companies use properly sourced meats which they absolutely don’t.
The raw food companies wrote the books or the kibble companies?
Your correct.. things are corrupt in this world
That doesn't mean raw is the way to go. Why not just cook the meat? Much safer, same balanced nutrients.
There are commercial raw diets in certain pet food stores. Prior to feeding my puppy raw diet, I was so confused on what to give him and switched about 4 times through different brands (Purina, Authority (PetSmart brand), and 2 other AAFCO vet approved brands I can't remember the names. My puppy's breath smelled strangely sweet, he was developing dry flaky skin, and was frequently having some issues with constipation. One day when going to a non big commercial pet store, I saw this funny little dog that looked like a monkey with beautiful fur and bright eyes. The girl behind the counter told me she was on the raw food diet. I decided to try it, but w/caution. I gave my puppy first Primal, then we landed on Instict Raw puppy. The change in my puppies overall well being was very dramatic. His eyes are bright, his skin and fur are soft and no longer flaky, and he doesn't have trouble with constipation anymore. Every time we take him to the vet for check ups they say he is a healthy boy.
I was told by a holistic vet nutritionist that all dogs are different and that if my puppy was doing well on it to continue it with incorporating different proteins.
I am just speaking from my own experience as a pet owner. I am happy with the raw fresh food diet.
I feed my dogs instinct raw frozen as well, and my 3 dogs have good breath , healthy teeth and gums, nice coats , never had worms, and are the healthiest my vet sees too. It's pricey. But vet bills due to poor health from low quality diet is pricier 😱 Instinct has the wonderful
Dr. Wynn ,a Board Certified Veterinary Nutritionist (DACVIM), a credential held by fewer than 100 people in the U.S.! There is passionate professionals out there doing all the hard work and balancing of nutrition!
Watching this at 2am… I don’t even have cats, but hey its great to know :3 meow
We fed our dog raw and she was so incredibly healthy, her teethe were white, her poops dissolved fast , her coat was shiny. We will def. do the same with our new puppy. Thankful for being introduced to it. Just like our diets full of things that are harming us the same goes with our pets. Blessings :)
my dogs teeth are gleaming white like he has been using white strips 😂 and yes the coat is super shiny.
Do animals in the wild cook or add preservatives to their meals?
The problem with the wild animals diet is Fast Food.
My cat rips out the still beating heart and internal organs of birds, vermin, baby squirrels and once upon a time they dragged home a FULL CHICKEN and plucked it naked through out my house and left it half eaten and still warm on my lounge table. If that's not Raw idk what is, and if they go do that of their own accord instead of going to the food bowl for kibble then surely it'd be more within their food pallet
Cats and dogs do have hunting instinct, but that doesn’t mean the food is necessarily good for them. Dogs and cats in the wild live much shorter lives than those who live on a farm and eat a kibble and home cooked diet. They’re just evolved to still have hunting instincts because that’s what they had to do in the wild.
Keep your cat indoors unless you are ready to loose it. A chicken killing cat is a dead cat to most poultry owners. Plus they spread all sort of disease to humans.
@@kristen1463
Along with the risks of your cat getting hurt, killed or lost >~< It’s best to keep your cat indoors or if you still want them to get fresh air, get a cat harness and leash or a cat condo
Wow!
Keep your cat inside.
"There's no evidence!"
*entire history of dog domestication has entered the chat*
Our vet was the one who recommend the raw diet for our cats!
I'm in love with your videos!
2:20... "At this time there's no evidence..."
Sure, you could say that... if you ignore the 1930's extensive, multi-generational, 10-year, raw meat vs cooked meat study done on cats, by Dr Francis M Pottenger.
I was surprised to hear that my vet feeds her dog the same raw food that I feed my pets. My pets have been eating PRIMAL raw food for years. I’ve seen many benefits and improvements
It's always great to have a vet thats on board!
Yay! I feed my kitty Primal for years now too! Absolutely love the brand and love that the vitamins are actually from plants and veggies :)
@@katerina6417 🤗
There is also ‘raw like’ kibble such as Tribal which is cold pressed and locks in a lot more nutrients than your baked/extruded kibble! It digests just like raw but it’s the convenience of having it in a kibble form and not having to defrost etc! So interesting to see what everyone’s opinions are on feeding their pet!
I did months of research before getting my 2 dogs because I knew I wanted to start them off on Raw. They love it and so do I since I know exactly what their eating. Very Healthy pups ^w^
Amazing pet mom you are! 👍🏻💝
I am doing my research now for my 9 week old puppy. Any tips for starting raw diet?
my vet was thrilled to hear my baby started eating real nutrition. i go to affordable animal hospital where they truly live up to the name and my clifford *runs* to the door to meet his vet which is why i keep going back instead of finding on closer to me he really loves her
What did domesticated dogs eat before the proliferation of commercially available dog food?
As someone working in a clinic, the biggest question I have about raw diets is this: do raw diets help manage chronic health problems in pets?
The vast majority of the kibble and canned foods we have are designed for managing health problems such as GI sensitivity, diabetes, urinary issues, and kidney support. My clinic works with cats primarily, so I've seen a number of blocked cats recover from crystals with supportive care and a urinary diet designed to break down the crystals. That being said, I'm curious as to whether a raw diet could accomplish the same since many blocked cats become blocked from eating bad kibbles like Friskies.
Hi! I do go over this in other videos, but yes it not only facilitates certain health issues (for instance, UTD - because of the high moisture content, cats are less likely to develop urinary crystals. Their body is no longer in a constant state of acute dehydration, and their urine is less concentrated.) But, it helps prevent certain health issues from even occuring (for instance, kidney disease) if you're interested, these are the videos I go over this: ua-cam.com/video/pMaqrkFlxOs/v-deo.html | ua-cam.com/video/WLOLmqRWcWs/v-deo.html | ua-cam.com/video/U8sb0KkSqxE/v-deo.html
loveeee this video! i am definitely going to try to speak with my vet about my poms health and see how he is doing so far!
Great! :)
My cat changed from wet to raw after his stomach was destroyed on wet food. He even refused canned because how sick he got him. My vet seems very happy with how he looks and acts
I'm glad your vet noticed how much raw helped your kitty!
What do you mean by "wet" food? I thought wet was synonymous with canned?
Aren't the nutrients cooked out of kibble?
Honestly my vet’s biggest concern was the chance of bacteria being transferred from the dog to us when he licks us. That was about it, other than that she suggested adding supplements. But meat is so high and running short, I feel overwhelmed buying it for the dog when people may need it.
You have a big heart.
I actually want to do a premade raw, as it is recommended to me by a nutritionist, especially since most kibbles contain chicken in some way, and my boy is allergic to it. Small amounts here and there don't bother him, but constantly in his food it will make him sick.
I currently use vital essentials treats, and a kibble, but I want to switch him fully to raw food.
My cat is also allergic to chicken. We're still on prescribed allergic kibble, but our vet will try to make us a plan of raw diet since we highly request it and they do it for their own cats as well.
Premade raw is a great option too!
Raw feeding 101 FB group will teach you and customize balanced meals for your pets. They are professionals.
thank you for the video. im still pretty unconvinced that there is a marked difference between high quality wet and raw but i am at least interested including raw bones in my cat’s diet
All the commercial pet foods on the shelf for years, what type of nutrition they contain? I really doubt. I feed my dog on BARF, they are super heathy. My labrador even doesn't shed a lot, her coat is shinny
Dogs are descendants from wolves, of course raw meat diets are ok for dogs as well.
Have you got a license for that common sense?
You don't need expensive, long term studies to read an ingredient panel showing unhealthy BHT and BHA used as preservatives. (I'm looking to you, Hill's.)
I think it's interesting how most of us stick to dry VS raw - wet (not raw) is a great alternative to dry food! I hope we see some studies comparing wet VS raw, since wet food itself usually trumps dry in health benefits.
"Your vet is not your enemy" cannot be emphasized enough. Veterinarians are NOT "bought out by big kibble"! Unfortunately, many are still relying on old nutrition wisdom and the field of nutrition (both for humans and animals) is a fluid field with changing information. It's not because your vet is out to get an extra buck from kibble makers, it's because they lean on tried and true sources of food. There are a lot, though, who no longer recommend dry food. It's soooo easy for owners to jump to thinking they know best, whether it's giving burger and eggshells to a dog or giving human painkillers to their cat. Rely on and trust your vets some more!
Most vets are corrupt. That's the sad truth. Ask your vet what food they recommend, next ask them to read the ingredients, next ask them why a dog needs corn, wheat and soy which are totally inessential fillers that cause allergies. Tell me what they say.
@@chrishayes5755 I have this same problem with my old boy of a cat.
He's never had kidney stones, cancer, tumors, nor has he lost any teeth and is the old age of 15 years and getting close to the rainbow bridge.
The vets say it's a miracle that he never got any troubles until much older where now arthritis and chronic kidney disease are kicking in.
His chronic kidney disease progresses, but I think the old boy will go on his own time and not to the disease.
And what's the main ingredient of the kibble the vet recommended? CORN...for a cat with kidney troubles.
He's been fed for almost all those 15 years on a raw diet, I've no doubt it helped him get this far.
He can no longer eat raw meat as he can't push it through, and so I've had no choice but to switch to a canned food and what happened to those beautiful white teeth almost immediately, the same ones the vets admired and said was amazing and looked like a 2 year old cat's teeth? They started getting plaque on them and yellowing.
I'm proud my boy will go out on his terms, no matter how much the ache of loss will hit us as he was a very good cat and helpful to us in many ways, I'm glad we helped him to do this the way he helped us in his own ways.
I dare say, a lot depends of how reliably one can get fresh, good quality meat and offal in their area. Wasn't a problem when I lived in larger cities with good meat markets in Latvia, have had unpleasant surprizes when buying human food intended raw meat in UK . Also, vets probably encounter enough people who simply are too careless to do raw feeding properly, and that might skew their opinion against raw feeding for the average pet and owner.
There are many balanced raw diet companies now a days
It's the same as doctors that hate on naturopathy. They lose business... and the medical industry is a major business
I feed mostly raw. I always add in supplements and a bit of premium wet cat food just to be sure I have everything covered (3oz of canned for every 8-12oz of raw). I use quality kibble as treats and occasionally as a topper just to keep things interesting and ensure if something happens to me, the cats will eat whatever they have to until I can return.
Nice, unbiased video. Naturally there's tons of people in the comments who are only here to push their beliefs, despite your suggestion to remove the ear plugs :/
We have 4 dogs. An older dog and puppies that have been with us since they were born. The little girl started to get stomach problems at about 4 months old. We changed food but her problems didn’t clear up. So I decided to try a “raw” diet. While it’s a little more expensive it totally cleared up her stomach issues. The other awesome thing that happened was our 12 year old dog now runs around like a puppy! He can actually play with his children now and he doesn’t cry anymore because his hips are hurting. That was really terrible. We would go to move him and he scared me he cried so hard. ALL better now. I know super long story but I also had my mom change my grandmas 15 year old chihuahua over too. The dog actually eats all his meals now and he plays! He NEVER played before, not with other animals or humans. He was overweight and he has a wicked bad skin itchy thing going on. He would hide under things and use them to scratch his back. All that was cleared up by the month mark. Please just make sure your following recipes that make sure their daily requirements are met. I give all my dogs a daily supplement with their food to make sure since three of them are puppies and the older dog also gets a turmeric type pill too as extra help for his joints.
I started to feed my cats raw food and their health became better even their hair and skin.
That's awesome ^___^
As soon as I saw ingredient list of all these purina, royal csnin etc where most ingredients are corn, soy, grain, potatoes... I stoppwd listening to vets food suggestions whatsoever.
It's so hard to find food without grain or other crappy things, I might as well go full raw and know exactly what my cat eats and change some ingredients if needed
I loveeee doing raw! But I also kind of mix with Orijen kibble because it’s a very meat rich kibble with GREAT ingredients!!
@@kourtenaydolmos7020 I dont have that brand where I live but I found Carnilove which seems to have a great ingredient list and if I buy bigger bags during sales, it's a great price too :) But it's honestly the only brand here that's actually good. There is Ontario which is kinda ok too, but my cat has some kind of allergies to Ontario wet and dry food.
We're just going raw now and he can have carnilove dry food when he feels like crunching on something.
If you take dogs naturally’ pet food nutrition course you learn even more about how crappy kibble can be
Purina, Royal Canine etc...are all big/main name brands, most big super markets sell these brands especially Purina. Cheap too, so it sells to millions of customers hence more fillers to satisfy the demand. You can buy soy, corn, grain etc free food they are just more expensive and more commonly found in pet stores only and not your local wal mart. We feed our kittens a combination of wet and dry food and neither contain the ingredients that are damaging to cats. After recommendations and research we decided on Hills Science Diet, as much hate as that brand may also get, all brands get hate. Hill's have had a recall a few years back, in fact was quite a big one, but it has had the least amount of recalls out of most named brands. By no means am I denying or excusing the recall though. Hill's also has options of a diet or ingredients that suit your needs. We almost went with other brands like Blue Buffalo, but questioned the fact it is sold just about everywhere. I can buy Blue Buffalo at a main grocery food chain I work at, but once it is sold on every shelf, things like the content of fillers go up to make it cheaper to be able to sell at places like Meijer, Wal Mart etc. It can happen too. A pet food that was once sold in pet stores only has had seen it's ingredients change when going to a big box store. I assume because once that brand gets carried on the big shelves, the demand goes up tremendously, hence more production.
The biggest problem with cats is kidney failure and bladder infections etc. I am shocked no one has mentioned this in any of these comments. What makes cats prone to kidney failure is not dry food alone, it is actually more the Ash content and fillers in big name brands. Hill's had the least amount of ash content and same with lack of fillers. That is what made our decision. Both my husband and I have had cats that died too young or not even too young, but from horrible kidney failure and infections. So when I researched this time around on what to feed our new kittens was what causes the kidney failure and massive common problem in cats health.
Something else people will roll their eyes at is animal biproducts.....Um in the wild animals eat most of the animal. Bi-products just mean other ingredients from the animal than the actual meat. Ingredients are yes important, but I think the most important to watch out for is corn fillers, ash content etc.
We are considering a raw food diet, but need to do plenty of more research before making the switch because we want to do it the right way.
There are name brands that are safe for both cats and dogs, you just need to do the equal amount of research as you would with a raw diet. What attracted me to hills was the low ash content, less fillers and the amount of research they actually do put into their food. They may do some of the most research than most brands I know or from what I saw. Maybe I am wrong. Every brand gets hate, you just need to do the research for yourself and do what is best for you and your animal/animals. My vet suggested Fancy Feast kitten food, Purina One kitten chow....After researching I decided that was not the best choice and I could find something more suiting for my cat's needs.
I feed my animals taste of the wild They are healthier than ever And many actually ask if they are on a raw diet and I laugh.But I'd rather feed my Dogs good kibble than risk my family getting a possibility deadly Parasite virus bacteria etc. Especially with some people being immunocompromised that could mean death for them a human life is way more important than a dog eating raw imo. 80 percent of raw meat has Bacteria in it it's just a matter of time before you your pet or someone you love gets very sick from that. Even cooking the food would be way healthier for them don't see why so many want raw my guess that It's a trend. And my pets love kibble it's not like your dog cares about taste they don't have tate like we do.
This was super helpful! Thanks for posting
What people fail to realize about veterinary and medical (and nutritional, etc) degrees is that the curriculum for those programs are heavily influenced by corporations with a financial interest in what these students/graduates are taught. If you go to medical school (at least here in the United States) your curriculum was essentially bought by Big Pharma, which is why no matter what the ailment, you're taught to prescribe a *patented product* to "treat" (not treat, just hide the symptoms of) the disease. Dog food manufacturers do the same thing. It's also why I get harassed to update my dog's vaccines every year. How can there be "no evidence" that the raw food diet is good for dogs (or humans) when that's what was eaten for thousands of years? Give me a break. They mean there's no "bought" evidence. It costs money to do studies and trials. Corporations with deep pockets are incentivized to pay for those kibble studies. Who's got millions to pay for raw-food studies? And who would stand to gain from that? You can't patent what's natural. You can't patient "chickens." But once you GMO sometime, that's where the money's at. When a vet (or doctor or nutritionist) tells you something that intuitively doesn't make sense, it's because they were brainwashed into thinking their degree means they're experts on a topic instead of being an expert on what someone / some corporation with deep pockets wants them to know.
Kinda disappointed it wasn't brought up that there are companies that make pre prepared and balanced raw diets that are available in a lot of pet stores an online. A few that come to mind are Primal, Stella & Chewy, Instinct, Lotus, Steve's, Answers, etc. All of these diets meet AAFCO standards, which are the exact same nutrition standards that all kibble meets. Not to mention as far as bacteria concerns go many of these raw companies test every batch that they produce at a 3rd party lab for salmonella and e coli after everything is flash or pressure cooked to kill bacteria (I know for sure Primal does this, I'm fairly certain Stella's does as well.)
Its unfortunate that its not common knowledge Purina, Hills, and Royal Canin sponsor vet clinics and vets nutrition training. Especially after the irresponsible DCM study that was released unfinished and scarred so many people out of feeding a much higher quality kibble and their vet shoving Pro Plan down their throat instead.
All these foods has too high percent of bones, also most has many recalls because of salmonella etc. Maybe in few countries there are few responsible persons but in mine every single idiotic person that has read an article becomes a raw food producer
I don't have a problem with a raw diet and supplement with that myself, but the idea that pet dogs and cats evolved the same way as wild animals is insanely ignorant.
This is true
Even cretain wild animals might need their meat cooked in captivity.like toucans.
I think they're gut acid and microbiome is different. Plus the raw animals that they eat in the wild is different from grocery store meat- they weren't raised in meat mills and slaughterhouses.
Okay but you need to know commercial pet food, dried kibbles made of starch,corn, wheat and meat powder only exist no more than 100yrs. If pets had no kibbles to eat 100 yrs ago what were they eating back then? Cats and dogs are carnivores they couldn't live on by just eat bread and rice. You can also cook your pet's raw diet if worry about parasites and bacteria.
Cats and dogs are domesticated animals it doesn't mean they have evolved into some animals can only eat processed food in just 100 years since commercial pet food was invented. Don't forget cats and dogs do hunt living animals sometimes (especially cats) even they have owners.
I switched my chocolate lab from diamond naturals which is rllllyyy good kibble 6 years ago, to raw and hes 16 and you’d think he was a puppy and he has been cancer free for the past 16 years which is a shocker as you know labs and retrievers are known to have joint issues and cancer. I love raw and will not be going back
We recently lost our dog of ten years. He had cancer and we question our decisions on nutrition. He would have a burger if we had fast food. We wouldn't read ingredients on treats. I was only a kid, and so many people here did it at the time. We didn't think twice. It was also 2011 so we didn't have much information. I found this very informative. We are getting a new pup in a year and a half, so we are doing lots of research of what would be the best option for this dog. We will be doing kibble since it's what we can afford. But I'm considering getting supplements and vitamins. Adding nutritious things into the kibble so make sure they're getting everything they need. Koda was only ten and was a healthy dog, he should have lived longer. He was out for walks every day, very loved, had good hygiene and was a good boy. We want to do things differently this time. ❤
You will be adding nutrients to the kibble but you will not be removing the problems that are in the kibble. It's still like feeding them junk food everyday. Adding vitamins to McDonald's is still McDonald's.
Corporations' internal studies always show that their products are great! What a surprise.
Yes because in every Documentary on Wildlife the Dogs or Wolves can be found in their dens cooking food on gas cookers. 👍🏼
We’ll but in that logic humans should be eating raw meat because back when we didn’t know how to do fire we ate raw. Not acutely against the raw diet, it makes sense to me but your argument is a logical fallacy, since dogs have been dogs and not wolfs they’ve been around humans that can cook meat.
@@BF4ClanTBS can’t compare humans and cat/dogs evolution.
We’re very far from what we used to be when we masters fire. They’re pretty much the same. Try going naked in the wild and survive, you couldn’t. They could and still do.
When nature starts cooking food for dogs and other animals then I will start feeding them cooked food.
Absolutely true in the wild feral dogs wild dogs and such do not purchase kibble they feed on Raw scraps or pray that they hunted down themselves and they're much healthier for it
My vet used to advise against raw until he saw how much better my dog did on raw compared to kibble.
That's the best thing ever! Proof is the best way to change someones view.
yeah but not all kibbles are the same so? Also raw diets aren't standardized, so this argument its very weak...................
@@serginaru it took us six months or trying many different kibbles to realise they just didn't work for him. The minute he was on raw he was so much better, no upset stomach which by the way for him can be life threatening so I'm glad I made the change. I don't really care if this argument is weak because I'm not saying people need to feed raw it just it works for my dog way better than any kibble ever did.
So the discussion is about raw vs kibble, but why not cook the food to remove contamination? Is it too much effort? I mean, beef and chicken are mostly fine because they have no nasty parasites, but fish and pork do, and dogs are every bit as susceptible as people. And for another thing, while the dogs are equipped to handle salmonella, people aren't, and when they eat raw, their mouth gets the bacteria, which can then spread to any surface they sniff or lick.
Is this okay?
Im thinking about feeding my cat that I’m getting tomorrow, this type of diet.
Breakfast: raw diet, little fruit, sometimes raw egg,a little vegetable to digest food.
Dinner: Kebble, sometimes raw egg, little fruit.
Please tell me if I should add anything! I’m a new cat owner, I’ve really never had a dog or cat. I’ve been researching for months to make sure I have everything and not harm my animal in any way possible!
Thanks for your time, plz answer.
I don't feed my animals raw (yet) but I still handle raw meat when I cook. I imagine its the same thing with handling raw food for pets. Wash your hands!
Yeah no kidding. All the arguments against raw because "you'll get sick from handling it" go out the window when the same person preps a raw chicken for grilling and doesn't sanitize the work surfaces afterwards....
If you get sick from handling meat because you don’t wash your hands, what do you think that contaminated meat is going to do to your poor dog when it eats it raw? Wild animals eat fresh meat that they kill themselves. You are buying meat at a grocery store that has been sitting around for a week growing bacterial cultures. Cook that stuff first. You want to feed non processed foods that’s great. Cook it.
@@clandes7ineindya154 dogs and cats, like all carnivores have digestive tracts designed to handle raw meat. Animals in the wild do not only eat their meat fresh. They revisit kills, bury meat for later, etc. Humans have longer digestive tracts to break down plant matter, so when we eat contaminated food, that bacteria spend 3x longer inside our gut, multiplying and making us sick.
@@DaniS398 So where is your evidence that it is healthier to feed a raw meat than a cooked one? Have you ever had to euthanize a 4 year old sweet black Lab that was seizuring uncontrollably from bacterial meningitis from eating a raw diet? Have you ever had to surgically deobstipate a dog that was fed raw turkey necks because he refused to defecate because his stool was full of sharp bone shards? I don't want to argue with you because raw diet proponents view this as a religion that they believe on faith and no evidence, so I am not going to change any minds. But for my sake, cook your meat, so I never have to see these horror stories ever again.
@@clandes7ineindya154 commercial dog food is less than 80yrs old. Do you think turn of the century people qere cooking meals for their dogs and cats? They were eating raw food and table scraps. My evidence is carnivore anatomy and physiology. A handful of unfortunate cases does not fact make. Plenty of domestic dogs and cats worldwide thrive on balanced raw diets.
My dog is allergic to meat proteins. We tried all kinds of diets through our vets. Grain free, chicken free, duck, turkey, beef, rabbit, kangaroo, and raw. None of which he did well on. Eventually he was recommended a vegan diet and is now 14 years old and doing great. So many people attack us for feeding him vegan even though his vet recommended it. Some dogs do well on it. Not all dogs can thrive on the same diets. Commercial or raw- many dogs with severe allergies can't do either.
Been feeding my dogs raw since they were pups. They are 5 now. And thriving.
Her voice is also killing me.
Her voice is great. Your assholeness is killing me.
RIP
@@pranjal86able yawn.
My cats haven't even needed to see a vet in ten years because I feed them raw.
Kibbles is processed and isnt natural.
Im a proponent of the raw food hype. I noticed my Malinois has reduced her shedding by 85 pct.
How about this: Vet loses a client if he recomends the healthy choice of food. Thats why they are against raw food. Do you think our grand parents fed their dogs with kibble? Dogs ate scraps or if they were lucky they ate off the table.
Damn i wonder what dogs found in tribes eat. Vets just want to make money. At the same time make sure the meat has been cleaned to remove factory chemicals...just in case
I really enjoyed this video! I’m a vet tech and I think all the points you covered are exactly why vets don’t like recommending raw diets. 2 things I would emphasize is that with food safety, salmonella and e. coli can live in pets mouths for weeks at a time and not harm them BUT can harm YOU, so if you feed raw it’s not a good idea to let them kiss your mouth or lick children hands! Also a lot of people who feed raw are usually against grains b/c they think wolves (dogs and wolves are TWO different species but people don’t care) don’t eat grains but in reality when wolves eat an animal they also eat the stomach, which has grains in it! Also there’s new research showing that a grain free diet can cause cardiomyopathy (a heart condition) so be careful! If you fed raw please PLEASE make sure it actually has all the nutrients, I know someone that only feeds their dog ground turkey and sweet potatoes 😭😭
Wash meat in vinegar water. Problem solved.
the heart problems aren't linked to a lack a grains but a presence of potatoes and legumes. when most pet food companies offer a grain free option they usually replace the grains with those other things.
Took a college course on veterinary nutrition blatantly sponsored by and promoting Purina. I distinctly recall the course trying to assure me a lot of things which were bad for humans were fine for dogs and cats (despite my other, unsponsored classes assuring me cats and dogs have far more delicate digestive systems.) I was even more weirded out when my parents' vet said they had the same course and it was 'really good'.
Really good for their pocket book. Doctors and vets would be poor if garbage food wasn't available.
This is incredibly helpful, thank you so much
Vets are against them because they’re really easy to mess up. For the average dog owner honestly kibble is just a safer option. A vet honestly shouldn’t be recommending raw to someone they believe will mess it up and cause harm to their animal, so I’m glad most vets don’t recommend it. If you can do it correctly, fine, but don’t get mad at vets when most of the time they’re just recommending the safest option for the average pet owner. Also people talk bad about vets until their animal has to go in for an emergency. You want food advice, go to a nutritionalist and do your own research. If you’re feeding raw and your dog is showing health issues and your vet recommends a diet change, they went to school, they have had some amount of nutrition training, not an amount compared to a nutritionist but still training, they aren’t your enemy.