I liked your video. If you'd like a little better idea of what Volts, Amps, and Watts means in a relatable way, I'd be glad to chat with you. You've got a lot of info already, but if you'd like to see how it all connects together in a relatable way, give this a shot and if you want to chat about it, hit me up. If you really don't want to go any deeper that's cool, but I can see from what you do understand in the video already you are very close to getting the relationship between Volts, Amps, and Watts. There is just a little bit more you could use to help visualize it better if you are interested in it. If not, I'll understand. Skip the rest of this if you really don't want to go any further. Voltage: The potential or the "pressure" behind the electricity. Literally a 12V battery even at 25% capacity, has so much more potential to do work than even a full 1.5V AA battery. That AA battery can't even make a spark. That 25% capacity 12V battery can still make a spark because it has so much more potential behind it. Current: The flow rate. Literally the Amps (current) is just how fast the electricity is flowing. Whatever the max flow rate is a AA battery can support, 10 double AA batteries in Parallel can flow 10x that flow of electricity, but it will all still be at 1.5 Volts. (In parallel the voltages are all the same.... 10 AA batteries in parallel is still 1.5 Volts....) If you don't need 10x the flow rate of that AA batter, but instead are still pulling the same Amps that one single AA battery can handle.... then those 10 AA batteries will simply last 10x as long because they have 10x the total storage. One more way to think of current: If someone pours a cup of water through a straw, that straw is going to limit how much current can flow. If someone pours 10 cups of water that is being held in a bucket, through that same straw.... then that bucket will take 10x longer to drain because the flow rate is the same. Current is just the flow rate of the power. If you want more power than what a straw can provide, you will need higher voltage. Upgrade that straw to a pipe, and now you can dump that cup of water on someone through that pipe. You can dump that bucket through that pipe and really drench them but it will still take 10x longer because the pipe is limiting how much water can come out the other end. Ok, let's upgrade this visualization and make it even better. Voltage is potential to do work or in this analogy it is like pressure. Current is flow rate. If you have a bucket of water and I have a bucket of water hooked up to a pressure washer, I have more pressure(voltage) and a little bit lower flow rate. My bucket of water is going to sting you as it goes through the pressure washer. That pressure washer might take 2 seconds to drain that bucket of water. Your bucket of water will get splash me in less than 1 second. You have higher current / higher flow rate, but the only pressure you have is how hard you can throw that bucket of water at me. I have a lower flow rate probably taking 4 or 5 times longer to empty my bucket of water, but the pressure coming out of the tip of the pressure washer is going to hurt. Power (Watts) is Voltage times Current. You have 5x the current and maybe 2000x less power than a pressure washer. I have 5x less current, but I have 2000x more power going through the pressure washer. It takes both current(amps) AND voltage to make power. Power is the total amount of energy consumed. Your engine / magneto/stator is putting out power. When you start turning on accessories, they start to drain away that excess power. When you start to see 12.8 or 12.9 volts, that means your accessories are using up all the excess power that your magneto/stator setup is putting out. So, like you already said, below that range you are really starting to drain the battery. Let's say you have only the accessories on that give you a solid stable reading of 12.9V. You could, in theory, drive around on that and not drain your battery or at least the drain wouldn't be very bad. But then you turn on a light bar that uses 200 watts. Well, at 12.9 volts, 200 watts is 15.5 amps. That is 15.5 amps of current that you are drawing directly from your battery. That battery can only put out 15.5 amps or 200 watts for so long before it is empty. Again, Power (watts) = Voltage (volts) X Current (amps). You can go the other way: Power / Voltage = Current OR Voltage = Power / Current. So, if you have a 650 Watt Stator/Magneto setup.... 650 is the max power it could put out theoretically, but because the engine doesn't run at the highest RPM all the time, it really likely maxes out somewhere between 600 and 625 watts maximum power. At 14.1 Volts, that is about 42.5 Amps of flow rate you can get out of it. 600 Watts = (14.1 Volts) x (42.5 Amps) (with a little bit of rounding going on there.) If you didn't want to go through all of that, I don't fault you. If you did and you still have questions or things could be clearer, I'm more than happy to answer questions. I certainly didn't understand electricity automatically. I had to study it. I just felt like you are so close to that next level of understanding, that this might be worthwhile. I sure hope it helps.
Awsome vid! I watch u all the time you help me a ton on my x3 Wondering how did you get your battery to stay put and not Bounce all over the place ? I’m gonna buy the same setup you have just not sure how to mount the battery
I’m having issues with me fosgate stage 5 system, my subs under front seats cut out and amp goes into protection mode. I have a relatively newer battery but same size as stock. I do have light bar, rugged radio system, winch and whip lights and I can’t figure out why my subs cut out. Could it be battery is too small? Did yours cut out at all?
Hello man I love the vids, I had a question what is limp mode? Is it the smart lock because my battery is no longer good and I had smart lock failure show up on the dash, and the steering is stiff
If your battery starts to go dead before it goes in the limp mode your steering will get stiff because the power steering motor is not getting the electricity that it needs
@@sxsmarine4075 thanks a lot I watch a bunch of your videos they’re very helpful keep it up, it’s good to see the content you put out doing reviews, maintenance and all kinds of stuff.
You need to make your own if you put it in the factory location but i ended up putting it underneath the seat here’s the link to the video. ua-cam.com/video/7uW87DdCenU/v-deo.html
Lol that would be great but a alternator kit is very very expensive and if it was that easy there would be videos all over of people doing that not duel battery setups. you can get a bigger stator and I think that is what you are talking about. Stock its only 625w at 6000 rpm thats only 44.6 amps at 14v and that’s if you have it at 6000 rpms. I’m good if I’m running down the trail. It’s most the time when I’m not. The Odyssey will keep me going at those times. You can get a 850w stator but they are about 800.00 for a good one. I can put in 3-4 battery’s for that price.
Great video and info ! I’ve been looking at those Odyssey batteries for awhile
Makes me feel better that I got a better battery in there I think it will be a good investment
I've been looking at the big battery kit. $315 though but with subs and lights I figure I might should
I liked your video. If you'd like a little better idea of what Volts, Amps, and Watts means in a relatable way, I'd be glad to chat with you. You've got a lot of info already, but if you'd like to see how it all connects together in a relatable way, give this a shot and if you want to chat about it, hit me up. If you really don't want to go any deeper that's cool, but I can see from what you do understand in the video already you are very close to getting the relationship between Volts, Amps, and Watts. There is just a little bit more you could use to help visualize it better if you are interested in it. If not, I'll understand. Skip the rest of this if you really don't want to go any further.
Voltage: The potential or the "pressure" behind the electricity. Literally a 12V battery even at 25% capacity, has so much more potential to do work than even a full 1.5V AA battery. That AA battery can't even make a spark. That 25% capacity 12V battery can still make a spark because it has so much more potential behind it.
Current: The flow rate. Literally the Amps (current) is just how fast the electricity is flowing. Whatever the max flow rate is a AA battery can support, 10 double AA batteries in Parallel can flow 10x that flow of electricity, but it will all still be at 1.5 Volts. (In parallel the voltages are all the same.... 10 AA batteries in parallel is still 1.5 Volts....) If you don't need 10x the flow rate of that AA batter, but instead are still pulling the same Amps that one single AA battery can handle.... then those 10 AA batteries will simply last 10x as long because they have 10x the total storage.
One more way to think of current: If someone pours a cup of water through a straw, that straw is going to limit how much current can flow. If someone pours 10 cups of water that is being held in a bucket, through that same straw.... then that bucket will take 10x longer to drain because the flow rate is the same. Current is just the flow rate of the power. If you want more power than what a straw can provide, you will need higher voltage. Upgrade that straw to a pipe, and now you can dump that cup of water on someone through that pipe. You can dump that bucket through that pipe and really drench them but it will still take 10x longer because the pipe is limiting how much water can come out the other end.
Ok, let's upgrade this visualization and make it even better. Voltage is potential to do work or in this analogy it is like pressure. Current is flow rate. If you have a bucket of water and I have a bucket of water hooked up to a pressure washer, I have more pressure(voltage) and a little bit lower flow rate. My bucket of water is going to sting you as it goes through the pressure washer. That pressure washer might take 2 seconds to drain that bucket of water. Your bucket of water will get splash me in less than 1 second. You have higher current / higher flow rate, but the only pressure you have is how hard you can throw that bucket of water at me. I have a lower flow rate probably taking 4 or 5 times longer to empty my bucket of water, but the pressure coming out of the tip of the pressure washer is going to hurt. Power (Watts) is Voltage times Current. You have 5x the current and maybe 2000x less power than a pressure washer. I have 5x less current, but I have 2000x more power going through the pressure washer.
It takes both current(amps) AND voltage to make power. Power is the total amount of energy consumed. Your engine / magneto/stator is putting out power. When you start turning on accessories, they start to drain away that excess power. When you start to see 12.8 or 12.9 volts, that means your accessories are using up all the excess power that your magneto/stator setup is putting out. So, like you already said, below that range you are really starting to drain the battery. Let's say you have only the accessories on that give you a solid stable reading of 12.9V. You could, in theory, drive around on that and not drain your battery or at least the drain wouldn't be very bad. But then you turn on a light bar that uses 200 watts. Well, at 12.9 volts, 200 watts is 15.5 amps. That is 15.5 amps of current that you are drawing directly from your battery. That battery can only put out 15.5 amps or 200 watts for so long before it is empty. Again, Power (watts) = Voltage (volts) X Current (amps). You can go the other way: Power / Voltage = Current OR Voltage = Power / Current.
So, if you have a 650 Watt Stator/Magneto setup.... 650 is the max power it could put out theoretically, but because the engine doesn't run at the highest RPM all the time, it really likely maxes out somewhere between 600 and 625 watts maximum power. At 14.1 Volts, that is about 42.5 Amps of flow rate you can get out of it. 600 Watts = (14.1 Volts) x (42.5 Amps) (with a little bit of rounding going on there.)
If you didn't want to go through all of that, I don't fault you. If you did and you still have questions or things could be clearer, I'm more than happy to answer questions. I certainly didn't understand electricity automatically. I had to study it. I just felt like you are so close to that next level of understanding, that this might be worthwhile. I sure hope it helps.
Awsome vid! I watch u all the time you help me a ton on my x3
Wondering how did you get your battery to stay put and not Bounce all over the place ? I’m gonna buy the same setup you have just not sure how to mount the battery
I have to make something yet to hold it down. If the seat is all the way back it will hold it in there well but need to find something
Tmw makes a nice battery clamp for about 50 bux
MMO sells the whole kit for $315
I’m having issues with me fosgate stage 5 system, my subs under front seats cut out and amp goes into protection mode. I have a relatively newer battery but same size as stock. I do have light bar, rugged radio system, winch and whip lights and I can’t figure out why my subs cut out. Could it be battery is too small? Did yours cut out at all?
Thank you for the video, quick question for the battery meter how did you wire it? Is it on all time or did you do something else
Auxiliary power. So it goes on and off with the Machine. It reads the same even if it was plugged directly into the battery
Hey boss did your sound system go on safety mode ?
did you provide a link to the battery? Thank you for the info , good topic. :-)
You can get them from Amazon, batteries plus, AutoZone and about 20 other places. Just giggle them.
Hello man I love the vids, I had a question what is limp mode? Is it the smart lock because my battery is no longer good and I had smart lock failure show up on the dash, and the steering is stiff
No limp mod is when the Machine limits your speed and RPMs
If your battery starts to go dead before it goes in the limp mode your steering will get stiff because the power steering motor is not getting the electricity that it needs
@@sxsmarine4075 thanks a lot I watch a bunch of your videos they’re very helpful keep it up, it’s good to see the content you put out doing reviews, maintenance and all kinds of stuff.
Will that bigger battery burn up the stator or rectifier?
Nope it’s still a 12v battery.
What bracket did you use..???
You need to make your own if you put it in the factory location but i ended up putting it underneath the seat here’s the link to the video. ua-cam.com/video/7uW87DdCenU/v-deo.html
Jesus Christ clean those wires up looks like Spaghetti
Already done ✌️
just upgrade the alternator and be done with it
Lol that would be great but a alternator kit is very very expensive and if it was that easy there would be videos all over of people doing that not duel battery setups. you can get a bigger stator and I think that is what you are talking about. Stock its only 625w at 6000 rpm thats only 44.6 amps at 14v and that’s if you have it at 6000 rpms. I’m good if I’m running down the trail. It’s most the time when I’m not. The Odyssey will keep me going at those times. You can get a 850w stator but they are about 800.00 for a good one. I can put in 3-4 battery’s for that price.
Does the battery cover still fit on after the battery is installed??