Sure enough the contractor who installed our shower drain (new home in 2012) used a ton of putty on the flange (where you used silicone) and the threads (which blocked the weep channels). No doubt, this contributed to the seal failing over time, as the shower floor flexed and loosened the putty, which was water logged. Replaced the paper and rubber seal and applied silicone per your instruction and no more leak. Thank you
Great info. Could you tell me please what type silicone to use. I need to replace ours drain and want to do it correctly. The old one in leaking badly in basement. Thanks in advance. Phil
+shreddog35 Perfect, straightforward. He also UNDERSTANDS the reason the drain is designed the way it is, with the side Weep Slots: and yep, seen plumbers I worked with gob those all up with putty. Block those and get a call back at some point with leak issues down below. Would LOVE to work with this guy!
You just replace the top part and the two gaskets under. Use long nose pliers to pull the old paper and rubber gasket out and slide the new one in between.
@@stephenbell8757 B S you don't know what your talking about once everything is in place and glued up there is no replacing the rubber gasket unless you cut the pipe underneath and replace the whole drain.
Using logic, By applying silicone on top of flange, & then screwing into body drain, my logic says your disrupting the silicone from staying thick & consistent. Id do the screwing from below, if accessible
I did an Oatey installation for a drain. The 2" drain pipe fits inside the female 2" piece at the bottom of this unit. You clean/cement the drain pipe and the inside of the female section of this plug. Then, you drop the pan on the drain pipe.
Why don't we put another gasket on top isntead of silicone? Why don't they sell the kit with 2 gaskets? Is it possible to remove the top part once the silicone has set in if we have any problems later? thanks?
The purpose of the paper ring is not to seal but to allow for tightening of the large pvc or brass ringnut against the underneath of the base. A pvc or brass ringnut will bind-up when it starts to tighten against a rubber ring, causing a bad seal. Hence the thin, slick paper ring. Up top, the new silicone will not bind when either pvc or brass is tightened against it. (This isn't rocket science.)
Either you bought the wrong one or you misunderstand that the "weep holes" are merely channels that are on each side that allow any water to run down into the DRAIN instead of leaking at the rim. If you look closely the channels are on the female part.
Great informative video but the guy screwed the top portion with the silicone on it around and around when he should of held the top portion in place and tighten the bottom by doing what he did he smeared all the silicone out as he was turning the top portion.
What will happen if you installed the washers on top of the fiberglass vs underneath. I replaced mines because of a leak and it's still leaking. I followed the pattern of installing washers on top like it was when I took it off.
First off, many top flanges are slightly sloped downward toward the opening, following the contour of the sloped base. Look at all your sink flanges-- sloped downward. If you compress a gasket under these sloped flanges, you won't get even pressure everywhere and there's a liklihood of leaking. Hence sillcone or plumber's putty used here. The bottom (underneath) flange is always perfectly flat and will accept even, snug pressure all around.
thank you! I was told to use plumbers putty! glad I found you and your advice before I installed it! Blessings!
Thanks so much, my shower was leaking for the past year and I didn’t know how to fix it tell I seen your video….thanks again.
Sure enough the contractor who installed our shower drain (new home in 2012) used a ton of putty on the flange (where you used silicone) and the threads (which blocked the weep channels). No doubt, this contributed to the seal failing over time, as the shower floor flexed and loosened the putty, which was water logged. Replaced the paper and rubber seal and applied silicone per your instruction and no more leak. Thank you
Thanks for the comment.
The best straight forward instructions on UA-cam, thanks!
Thanks you, especially for the explanation of the weep slots. That was the problem in my drain, plumbers putty was used.
Yes Sir... Am doing this right now exactly as per your instructions. Thanks for the info!
Straight to the point it was perfect thank you!
Thank you. Saved me from searching the entire web. To the point.
Thanks. I had to pull the pan and reinstall without bottom access. This the exact same drain and I now know to use silicone and not plumbers putty.
Blessings to you for a stressless, instructional film.
Very clear, specific, and helpful. Thanks for posting! :D
This is exactly what I was searching for. Thank you!
Great info.
Could you tell me please what type silicone to use. I need to replace ours drain and want to do it correctly. The old one in leaking badly in basement. Thanks in advance.
Phil
Very good video BUT always love it when the instructions say 'do not over tighten'. How tight is too tight, for a 90 lb woman or a 250 lb man?
If it leaks its not tight enough
Man use left hand woman use right. That's usually how tight.
Great video. To the point and all you need to know.
+shreddog35
Perfect, straightforward.
He also UNDERSTANDS the reason the drain is designed the way it is, with the side Weep Slots: and yep, seen plumbers I worked with gob those all up with putty. Block those and get a call back at some point with leak issues down below.
Would LOVE to work with this guy!
Simple, quick, Done.
Awesome
Does the female portion get glued into the PVC pipe below?. Can you explain how that is done if you dont have access from underneath?
You just replace the top part and the two gaskets under. Use long nose pliers to pull the old paper and rubber gasket out and slide the new one in between.
@@stephenbell8757 B S you don't know what your talking about once everything is in place and glued up there is no replacing the rubber gasket unless you cut the pipe underneath and replace the whole drain.
What do you use to clean the acrylic surface before applying the silicone?
Mineral Spirits which is also called paint thinner.
Thanks, that was really helpful. I was looking for a special tool to tighten. Duh. Thanks again.
Using logic,
By applying silicone on top of flange, & then screwing into body drain, my logic says your disrupting the silicone from staying thick & consistent. Id do the screwing from below, if accessible
Nice video, and nice choice of words sir.
how do you connect to the drain to the 2 inch pipe on the floor ?
I did an Oatey installation for a drain. The 2" drain pipe fits inside the female 2" piece at the bottom of this unit. You clean/cement the drain pipe and the inside of the female section of this plug. Then, you drop the pan on the drain pipe.
That was a very thin bead of silicone. Installed mine earlier had to reuse the old female portion of drain, will leak test tomorrow hope all goes well
EXCELLENT instructions
Thanks guys, I'm ready to install a new one in my house.
Can you use hydrid polymer sealant and adhesive instead of silicone?
Why don't we put another gasket on top isntead of silicone? Why don't they sell the kit with 2 gaskets? Is it possible to remove the top part once the silicone has set in if we have any problems later? thanks?
The purpose of the paper ring is not to seal but to allow for tightening of the large pvc or brass ringnut against the underneath of the base. A pvc or brass ringnut will bind-up when it starts to tighten against a rubber ring, causing a bad seal. Hence the thin, slick paper ring. Up top, the new silicone will not bind when either pvc or brass is tightened against it.
(This isn't rocket science.)
what about when the base already has the drain molded? That's what I'm installing & having a problem
Great video ,helped alot thanks
Thanks. I worried about using putty.
I wonder if we can use this as a reverse method to change the gasket?
I ordered one from amazon and installed it..This had no weep holes.?
Looks like you'll be the only one weeping then.
Either you bought the wrong one or you misunderstand that the "weep holes" are merely channels that are on each side that allow any water to run down into the DRAIN instead of leaking at the rim. If you look closely the channels are on the female part.
Great informative video but the guy screwed the top portion with the silicone on it around and around when he should of held the top portion in place and tighten the bottom by doing what he did he smeared all the silicone out as he was turning the top portion.
Great help
Thank you for your help
What will happen if you installed the washers on top of the fiberglass vs underneath. I replaced mines because of a leak and it's still leaking. I followed the pattern of installing washers on top like it was when I took it off.
Nothn
First off, many top flanges are slightly sloped downward toward the opening, following the contour of the sloped base. Look at all your sink flanges-- sloped downward. If you compress a gasket under these sloped flanges, you won't get even pressure everywhere and there's a liklihood of leaking. Hence sillcone or plumber's putty used here. The bottom (underneath) flange is always perfectly flat and will accept even, snug pressure all around.
@@Pw6872 Excellent answer.
Thanks this helps but i will use a gasket instead of silicone
Then the drain flange is too high and the pan won't drain rt. You'll end up with soap scum all over!
Thanks very helpful
Thank you
Thanks sir.
Fiberglass bs it warps and it wobbly
Silicone is not a good idea. When it leaks next time, good luck cleaning that silicone off the pan and getting a good seal again.
The amount of silicone is not hard to remove. Take a rag and just rub. It will come off.
You must never have removed silicone before. It's not hard. Some pans require it over plumbers putty.
@@KingdomeBleachers That's right. Perhaps he's confusing acrylic with silicon.
I feel bad for the young fellow working with this guy he seems like a real hard ass. It could only be his son. Lighten up Pops.