Yeah!!! im with you on this one, he is doing a super good work! And it is time to move forwad now, everything can't stay the same forever... Nothing does! Cheers all bikelovers out there :)
One also has to remember it's pretty much Scrambler name only. It's more like pretty ADV bike. And it's spec wise comparable to most mid size full on adv bikes. And it has better suspension than base Tiger and beats pretty much every ADV on looks sector. Personally this is the first truly desirable ADV.
Thank you Adam for mentioning the Brembo master cylinder. You're are second of nearly a dozen reviews that I've seen of the Scrambler. That was the first thing that I noticed when I sat down on the bike, and then the bike was covered in drool. I am looking forward to and very excited for episode 2! Keep them coming.
If you want to see expert filtering, look at Baron Von Grumble's youtube videos of his commutes in London. Or, look at the Harley's doing the San Francisco commutes.
Awesome review from the best in the business. Hey Adam, the problem I am having is that I also would use it more on the road but I freaking LOVE that blue tank! Am I really that attached to a color that I would 1) pay $1400 and 2) buy a version of a bike that is less suited for my needs? Yeah, I probably would. Thankfully I'm going to buy the Street Triple R instead!
Where did you hear that it was replacing the 900 Scrambler? Don't think they would be showcasing the 900 Scrambler with "updated" engine if they were replacing it
Dear MC, longtime fan. Requesting you guys to to please do proper video reviews. The commute series is ok for maybe a long term review, and honestly is a very dull video to look at....like every other guy with a gopro on the chin of his helmet. Sorry to come off too critical, i really like the channel, and also was looking forward to the 790 review. But without any different angles, shots, etc, cant see the bodywork, cant see how he rider sits on the bike..seems dull and hard to concentrate on the words too. Love you guys, and hope this wasnt too harsh Tc
I kind of see what you are saying, but I wouldn't change a thing (other than maybe somehow fit in a shot of what he looks like on the bike so we can gauge rider position)! I love these MC Commute reviews because he goes through every little aspect very thoroughly while he is riding it. What else do you really need? You don't need to throw out this entire review just for that one shot you want. Oh, and if you are looking for a review with that then look for "Nothing To Prove". He usually does a drive by in slo mo for exactly what you are looking for.
Abs promotes lazy and shitty riding. Good riders practice and know where there braking zone is. Lazy shitty riders use abs to make up for lack of rides control of thier motorcycle. If you make the excuse of panic brake you are not riding defensively at all time a rider should expect other people on the road to cut you off, not see you, and not be paying attention. It is your job to make up for thier short comings and keep your self safe. Proper spacing and anticipating others actions. That combined with knowing your bike and how to control it and abs is not needed and becomes a bad thing. In all study's and test abs increase stoping distance. Abs only helps with maintaining control when in a slide. Sliding does not happen when you know your bikes capabilities and your skills.
That braking settings is genius. Never thought that would be an option. Wait till you see the AWD KTM 1190 system by Christini. I bet Dakar will change forever once they develop it for those bikes.
Yamaha and Öhlins actually developed a 2wd system that they used in dakar 2004 or 2005 i think. They called it 2 trac and it used a hydraulic system to transfer some power to the front wheel. During those years they sold a limited amount of Yamahas with this system, which they later on discontinued.
I think that if two wheel drive ever really takes off it will be an electric system, that really makes the most sense. Modern bikes are already suffering from too much electronic gear and small batteries, so the bigger battery would be a welcome improvement in addition to the hub motor being able to generate power and some braking effects.
@@woohoodoh The Christini system is an interesting setup and new forks are included because of the way the front wheel hubs need to transfer power from the gearbox. Definitely look it up on UA-cam if you're interested to see how it works. The system is around $4500.
I'm a former rider looking to get back into motorcycling. My last bikes a couple decades ago were a KZ1300, and XS 650, but had some Yamaha DTs prior to that. I'm liking the look and specs on the new Triumphs, but what I'm ACTUALLY wanting, is a bike that is about like the XS650, but would be capable of using the side of the road, or the other side of a low curb as an escape path as I used to do with my old DT Yamahas on occasion, just to have a few more options. I know a 1200 cc 450+ pound bike with a 65 year old coot on board probably won't be able to loft it over a curb at 50 like a DT 250 with a 20 something maniac pushing it, but I'm looking for every possible advantage I can get in the cellular age, and my first bike was, sort of, a scrambler (Honda CL 100), so the nostalgia factor is a thing as well. But the main thing is it looks like this bike would be capable of going from highway speeds off the shoulder of a highway and onto a open green runoff area and surviving it, even if it is a bit rough, where a pure street bike, like maybe a T120, or an Enfield 650 would be liable to go down. I'm not looking to be a hooligan, or the fastest guy out there. I just want to be able to tool around, have fun, go exploring down the Twisties in the Ozarks, and the country dirt roads. This looks like a good choice for that type of riding... But which one is better for that, XE, or XC? Or is there a better option out there? DUKE Scrambler? One of those Husky thumpers I can't pronounce? Anyway, sorry for the length, appreciate your input, suggestions welcome, lighter is better, and doesn't have to be NEW. Old cheap and reliable (like me...👀) Would be great.
Bikes look better dirty. Keyless ignition: one more thing to go wrong. Along with the complicated electronics. Nice dash. I wish it came with an 18'' front wheel, too. This is obviously a great bike. The bhp isn't much, but this bike proves you don't need it. Torque is king. I'd be interested to learn what you think of the Indian FTR1200 when and if you get to ride one, Adam. When they FINALLY come out. The best review of this bike on UA-cam.
Oh, come on. For Christ's sake. People are so nitpicky. Who cares how he says it. Pretty sure this dude could ride circles around most of us and understands motorcycle's better too.
I had the desert sled before and it was an awesome machine actually. I searched for a stronger engine for on the road (I missed that on the desert sled) so I traded it for a xe 120p. However, offroad the desert sled is way better though.....
thanks for a great video, on another note, that jeep cherokee chief (hooked up to a boat at the first stop sign) is so cool. maybe he wants to sell it??
Brakes, handling, engine, sound, wheelies all day long, all absolutely brilliant! Soaks up every bump?! Really? I've ridden sport bikes that offered a plusher ride...which isn't necessarily a bad thing, depending on what you're looking for. You were accurate in that this bike is very stiffly sprung... Also you don't get the OffRoad Pro mode on the XC, which you'll probably want if you like offroading. The basic Offroad mode isn't bad, but you can't control the rear as much as it does intervene quite early.
Surprised you didn't mention the size. This bike is HUGE, it is literally a big bore ADV bike with retro styling. The local Triumph/BMW/Ducati shop had this Scrambler parked next to a 1250GSA and it is just as big as the GS haha. It is also shaft drive, which is great.
This. I love the RnineTs but man are they wide and heavy. They call it urban but try lane splitting on the 101 through San Fernando. All the owners say, yeah, you can lane filter no problem....but half the time they aren't going where a skinnier and lighter bike can go. I'm thinking about getting this bike, ditching the hand guards, cutting 2 inches off each end of the handlebar and replacing those long mirrors with bar ends. That will be an awesome "urban" motorcycle!
Not really new from the ground up. That motor is already on other bikes. That’s not a problem cause that 1200 is great. That bike is a fucking hoot. Like a scrambler and a tiger had a baby.
Agreed! It's too bad Triumph won't let you pick the color for either bike. I would go for that blue all day long but the XC is the bike I need. It might sound silly, but I will probably cross them both off my list because of it.
I don't get why you wouldn't use ABS & TC on the street. That's exactly where it's supposed to be used. You may as well go buy some old '80's XL600 if you don't use the functions of the bike you've just paid for. Not only that, this is a review for the viewer not the rider - need to keep that in mind guys.
SuburbanHobbyist -it’s isn’t a every-day type Of bike NOR a beautiful bike, just isn’t worth the cash to me it’s been a year and I still have the same opinion .
@@hellbent6344 No, you misunderstood me. I get it. I was just pointing out that saying it isn't worth it to you to pay $15k and saying it isn't worth $15k in general are kind of two different things. If you like the motorcycle then it might be priced right. It is a very nice motorcycle with all sorts of well above standard and expensive components. $15k is a lot for a bike but even if I don't care for it, I think it's worth the money. Honestly, I'm in a mood tonight and being flippant.
Decisions decisions decisions ! I have a 2017 Street Scrambler, do I sell it and get this ? I have a small garage so no room for two bikes ( I know very sad) This bike seems to really be the best of both worlds and it looks the part. The whole Adventure bike thing not sure that’s for me, I dig the retro style vibe more then the multi color adventure look. I need to get my ass on a test ride pronto ! Great review 👊🏽
For $15k. I'd rather have an Africa Twin, or a vstrom 1000. For commuting. Not a chance. I've been commuting 2,000 miles a month for 9 years. That bike would be miserable. Honesty. It seams like a novelty. And for anyone reading this that's never owned a triumph. Keep in mind. The factory recommended services are required, they are frequent, and they are expensive. I know I sound like a Dbag writing this. But I don't want new riders to find these things out the hard way. These are things that should be mentioned in these videos. It ain't all rainbows & unicorn farts. That being said. I have the pirelli scorpion tires on my bike right now, and I hate them. They are my 3rd set of Pirellis. They've all sucked. A lot. So much more than I can express. Michelin or Dunlop depending on your bike & what you're doing with it. Full stop.
I owned an Africa Twin. No cruise, no IMU, invasive traction control, no tubeless tires, subpar suspension, mediocre brakes and average build quality. The Triumph is better in every way except wind protection.
Good review but I really didn't like the excuse to turn off ABS. Adam might be a capable rider but it's a feature that's meant to be used in a pinch for a majority of riders. It's a bad example to set for a new rider, like saying "why would I need it" if the professionals think it's intrusive and dumb.
Bass Player - a first world problem! Regular Road maps don’t dump either. It only drops out of off-road maps to road map on ignition off. Is pressing a button a couple of times a big deal???
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Yes it is, how would you feel if every time you started your computer you had to reset it before you could use it. They will fix this because everyone dislikes this, well except you...
@@Bass.Player - restarting a computer is not really a valid comparison is it? Here is the scenario. You on road, switch off your bike, go for a coffee, switch on, its in the same rider mode you left it. You are off road in an off-road mode and stop for some water and to admire the scenery. Go get on the bike, start the engine and press a button a couple of times to go back into off-road mode. - Jesus Christ what were Triumph thinking! You must be outraged, outraged I say!! The indignity off it all! You are just looking for something to complain about.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff I clearly understood what you said the first time- doesn't change anything for me. What is it about dirt that makes them feel they need to be big brother, people do not like this
Alright I haven't seen it mentioned yet but the video quality is super weird. Looks like there is some kind of cell shading/cartoon filter applied which doesn't look very good. What camera are you using ? A GoPro 7 recording at 4k30 superview, ISO 100, shutter speed 1/60, flat color profile (+ a LUT in post), and a ND32 filter should give you way better footage
I still a little confused on who this bike is made for? Pretty tall, expensive, no wind protection, smallish tank, and not sure you could mount hard or two of any saddle bags. Most BMW GS bikes never see off road for any number of reasons and this bike has some of those same reasons. Wheels and rubber probably not ideal for canyon carving.The heft, height and stiff suspension does make it ideal for city riding. So not a tourer, off road king, canyon carver, or city slicer. I own Triumphs but I just don't get this bike...
Don't be confused, just release yourself from the world and it's pigeon holes!!!!!......maybe folk will buy it because they just love riding it?.......trackdays, offroad, commuting, go round the world with it...whatever......
@will M - Maybe your right, 50 years riding probably qualifies as a long time. I like the looks and capabilities but....this bike is missing something at least for me. I think I will give the bike a test ride to be fair. At this point in life I don't need a statement bike, there are enough of those guys already.
I used to think that too. For some reason I just couldn't see the interest in their line up of Scramblers and Cafe Racer type bikes. But for whatever reason they started to grow on me. Now I'm looking at buying one of the damn things. Weird how that is.
Mike X You don’t imagine that the difference in price isn’t reflected in value of the bike? They are different categories of bikes. If price is the determining factor, why not review a skateboard?
RE is a bottom tier bike manufacturer. It has a broad base of disgruntled customers in India. When they tried to sell their Himalayan motorcycle in Australia, they were actually blocked by the government. Let me tell you, that is a low bar to surmount. RE was required to make 22 changes to the bike to bring it up to Australian standards. That raised the price to what every other manufacturer was selling at. This is a little peep behind the curtain. I would rather purchase from a manufacturer that has a happier customer base and a better pedigree.
- Who wants a Scrambler 1200 ride?!
- I do! I do!
Really liking these commute videos mate. Was disappointed when the boys left, but digging your style now. Thanks for the upload.
Yeah!!! im with you on this one, he is doing a super good work! And it is time to move forwad now, everything
can't stay the same forever... Nothing does! Cheers all bikelovers out there :)
Same man. I like Adam's slightly wilder style!
You lost me when you said "it pains me to ride a bike this dirty"
It's a scrambler!
Everyone complains about the price, but forgets it shares hardware and tech with nakeds and supersports that cost thousands more.
One also has to remember it's pretty much Scrambler name only. It's more like pretty ADV bike. And it's spec wise comparable to most mid size full on adv bikes. And it has better suspension than base Tiger and beats pretty much every ADV on looks sector.
Personally this is the first truly desirable ADV.
Thank you Adam for mentioning the Brembo master cylinder. You're are second of nearly a dozen reviews that I've seen of the Scrambler. That was the first thing that I noticed when I sat down on the bike, and then the bike was covered in drool.
I am looking forward to and very excited for episode 2! Keep them coming.
Saw one in person finally today. It is quite a piece of art.
Minor point, but this Scrambler, as opposed to the other “classic - retro” models, has shed the tank’s pinch-weld - looks a lot better, long overdue.
How about a commute on the new Husky 701 svartpilen? 🤘
If I owned it, those warning stickers on the tank would have to go immediately.
🤣 Almost a dead giveaway it’s a review bike
@@vengefulmosquito1337 ??
1990 as in they don’t own it. It’s on loan from Triumph.
Really? Most people keep those on after they buy a bike. Weird.
Love the expert level filtering. Should be allowed in all parts of America.
If you want to see expert filtering, look at Baron Von Grumble's youtube videos of his commutes in London. Or, look at the Harley's doing the San Francisco commutes.
Awesome review from the best in the business. Hey Adam, the problem I am having is that I also would use it more on the road but I freaking LOVE that blue tank! Am I really that attached to a color that I would 1) pay $1400 and 2) buy a version of a bike that is less suited for my needs? Yeah, I probably would. Thankfully I'm going to buy the Street Triple R instead!
The MACHINE is Back
Got me hyped for the next episode of On Two Wheels! Love this bike, got a soft spot for scrambles haha
Where did you hear that it was replacing the 900 Scrambler? Don't think they would be showcasing the 900 Scrambler with "updated" engine if they were replacing it
It wont be replacing the 900 Scrambler, but still nice review.. but I miss Ari Henning ...
@@xau Ari Henning didn't do the commute.
Dear MC, longtime fan. Requesting you guys to to please do proper video reviews. The commute series is ok for maybe a long term review, and honestly is a very dull video to look at....like every other guy with a gopro on the chin of his helmet.
Sorry to come off too critical, i really like the channel, and also was looking forward to the 790 review. But without any different angles, shots, etc, cant see the bodywork, cant see how he rider sits on the bike..seems dull and hard to concentrate on the words too.
Love you guys, and hope this wasnt too harsh
Tc
I kind of see what you are saying, but I wouldn't change a thing (other than maybe somehow fit in a shot of what he looks like on the bike so we can gauge rider position)! I love these MC Commute reviews because he goes through every little aspect very thoroughly while he is riding it. What else do you really need? You don't need to throw out this entire review just for that one shot you want. Oh, and if you are looking for a review with that then look for "Nothing To Prove". He usually does a drive by in slo mo for exactly what you are looking for.
Love the review! Can you do the Speed Twin?
you don't need ABS 'today'? how do you know? it's made for what you _can't_ know. and the bike's got 90 hp.
He's said stuff like that before , very strange attitude. Entire point of ABS is to save your ass when you get complacent
You don't need ABS 99% of the time. But when you actually need it you'll be really glad to have it. I wouldn't buy a bike without ABS
I think because of backing it in and wheelies, that might be why he's saying that.
Furthermore he said the reason was because Steve Mcqueen didn't have it he doesn't need it either...
Abs promotes lazy and shitty riding. Good riders practice and know where there braking zone is. Lazy shitty riders use abs to make up for lack of rides control of thier motorcycle. If you make the excuse of panic brake you are not riding defensively at all time a rider should expect other people on the road to cut you off, not see you, and not be paying attention. It is your job to make up for thier short comings and keep your self safe. Proper spacing and anticipating others actions. That combined with knowing your bike and how to control it and abs is not needed and becomes a bad thing. In all study's and test abs increase stoping distance. Abs only helps with maintaining control when in a slide. Sliding does not happen when you know your bikes capabilities and your skills.
That braking settings is genius. Never thought that would be an option. Wait till you see the AWD KTM 1190 system by Christini. I bet Dakar will change forever once they develop it for those bikes.
Yamaha and Öhlins actually developed a 2wd system that they used in dakar 2004 or 2005 i think. They called it 2 trac and it used a hydraulic system to transfer some power to the front wheel. During those years they sold a limited amount of Yamahas with this system, which they later on discontinued.
I think that if two wheel drive ever really takes off it will be an electric system, that really makes the most sense. Modern bikes are already suffering from too much electronic gear and small batteries, so the bigger battery would be a welcome improvement in addition to the hub motor being able to generate power and some braking effects.
@@woohoodoh The Christini system is an interesting setup and new forks are included because of the way the front wheel hubs need to transfer power from the gearbox. Definitely look it up on UA-cam if you're interested to see how it works. The system is around $4500.
I love how it's dirty before he even gets on it.
I'm a former rider looking to get back into motorcycling. My last bikes a couple decades ago were a KZ1300, and XS 650, but had some Yamaha DTs prior to that. I'm liking the look and specs on the new Triumphs, but what I'm ACTUALLY wanting, is a bike that is about like the XS650, but would be capable of using the side of the road, or the other side of a low curb as an escape path as I used to do with my old DT Yamahas on occasion, just to have a few more options. I know a 1200 cc 450+ pound bike with a 65 year old coot on board probably won't be able to loft it over a curb at 50 like a DT 250 with a 20 something maniac pushing it, but I'm looking for every possible advantage I can get in the cellular age, and my first bike was, sort of, a scrambler (Honda CL 100), so the nostalgia factor is a thing as well. But the main thing is it looks like this bike would be capable of going from highway speeds off the shoulder of a highway and onto a open green runoff area and surviving it, even if it is a bit rough, where a pure street bike, like maybe a T120, or an Enfield 650 would be liable to go down. I'm not looking to be a hooligan, or the fastest guy out there. I just want to be able to tool around, have fun, go exploring down the Twisties in the Ozarks, and the country dirt roads. This looks like a good choice for that type of riding... But which one is better for that, XE, or XC? Or is there a better option out there? DUKE Scrambler? One of those Husky thumpers I can't pronounce? Anyway, sorry for the length, appreciate your input, suggestions welcome, lighter is better, and doesn't have to be NEW. Old cheap and reliable (like me...👀) Would be great.
it's huge, heavy and unwieldy for scrambling but beautiful.
I love riding them when they are dirty.
Keep educating the viewers with your unique style of moto-journalism!!! I want to learn more!!! Great work , Thanks!!!😎
Bikes look better dirty. Keyless ignition: one more thing to go wrong. Along with the complicated electronics. Nice dash. I wish it came with an 18'' front wheel, too.
This is obviously a great bike. The bhp isn't much, but this bike proves you don't need it. Torque is king.
I'd be interested to learn what you think of the Indian FTR1200 when and if you get to ride one, Adam. When they FINALLY come out.
The best review of this bike on UA-cam.
Love style of bike not into off road scrambles but seriously thinking about buy one of these.
Enjoy the reviews, Adam. Very entertaining. Keep it up and Thanks!
I wish we could have gotten a better look at that TFT display during the ride...unless you didn't want us to see how fast you were going!
Is it TFT? If it is then why didn't they add any color to the screen?
Dey see you rollin', dey hatin'....
The starting thing is the fuel pump not cycling before you hit the starter.
'It's not going to annoy the tree huggers'.
Very detailed review! I like it
great video as usual. curious why you are not allowed to wash it?
Is that a ton of condensation in the display? Oh, and you failed to mention the cat-converter toaster on your right leg.
Do u just press the rear brake to back it in? And clutch up wheelie?
What's involved in changing the brake sensitivity settings?
Since you’ve ridden both this and the Ducati desert sled , which bike is better. Really nice job.
Doesn't that exaust burn your leg or the pillion's?
It has a guard and heat shield over the area.
Gets a little toasty in traffic for sure.
Awesome video. Had all the info!
Great video Adam!
Very good test!!!
What a pretty bike.
a pair Oh-Leans shock absorbers? Oh cool, sign me up !!
d redman 650ib says that
@@michaeljkasnter apparently a LOT of people mispronounce Ohlins? I am from the South - we mispronounce EVERYTHING!
Öhlins. Ööööööhliiiiiins
Oh, come on. For Christ's sake. People are so nitpicky. Who cares how he says it. Pretty sure this dude could ride circles around most of us and understands motorcycle's better too.
I had the desert sled before and it was an awesome machine actually. I searched for a stronger engine for on the road (I missed that on the desert sled) so I traded it for a xe 120p. However, offroad the desert sled is way better though.....
thanks for a great video, on another note, that jeep cherokee chief (hooked up to a boat at the first stop sign) is so cool. maybe he wants to sell it??
30 minutes is proper. Free to the public is proper.
Cool bike. Hey maybe try 30 or 60 fps rather than 24fps?
Would love to see a review on the scambler/cafe racer model they have :)
Brakes, handling, engine, sound, wheelies all day long, all absolutely brilliant! Soaks up every bump?! Really? I've ridden sport bikes that offered a plusher ride...which isn't necessarily a bad thing, depending on what you're looking for. You were accurate in that this bike is very stiffly sprung...
Also you don't get the OffRoad Pro mode on the XC, which you'll probably want if you like offroading. The basic Offroad mode isn't bad, but you can't control the rear as much as it does intervene quite early.
This Guy sounds quite boring to listen lol no offense 😁
Wow, I disagree. I think he is articulate, nice voice, smooth, honest and smart. I look to his reviews above all others.
Keyless? How long is that gonna last?
New to the channel and just found out your commute is the same as mine 👀
Thanks Adam, enjoy your reviews. 👍
Surprised you didn't mention the size. This bike is HUGE, it is literally a big bore ADV bike with retro styling. The local Triumph/BMW/Ducati shop had this Scrambler parked next to a 1250GSA and it is just as big as the GS haha. It is also shaft drive, which is great.
mrvwbug44 chain final, buddy.
Wheelie test at 21:11
what happens when you drop fob?
I would love to ride it everywhere except a singletrack trail
The XE seems like a no brainer for people who actually want to offroad. The XC seems like a show boater.
Wrong. The XC slays off road. I switched from a KTM 690 and am having more fun on this beast off and on road, despite the weight.
I think it sounds pretty good
Great wheelie!
Great review! Fuck the haters they dont have a life. I'm getting that bike. BMW Scrambler you've been served!
Next Royal Enfield INT?
The lane splitting blows my mind... Did you clip a mirror at 15:22?
Nope. That mirror is prob a meter away
Bit surprised the bike only made 75 BHP when Triumph claim 89. I know there is always drivetrain losses for the rear wheel but.
Shaft drive tends to be the most power-hungry, for sure
@will M I ride a Yamaha 👍
I always pictured a Waheed commute to be a total 'hoonfest!
Sweet bike, but 15k? fuckkkkkk. Nah, i'm good. lol That gauge cluster looks similar to the one on the Husky Vitpilen, just not quite as round.
It's almost 40k in my place! Big fakkkkkk 😅
Tubed or tubeless?
This vs the bmw r nine t urban gs?
This.
This. I love the RnineTs but man are they wide and heavy. They call it urban but try lane splitting on the 101 through San Fernando. All the owners say, yeah, you can lane filter no problem....but half the time they aren't going where a skinnier and lighter bike can go. I'm thinking about getting this bike, ditching the hand guards, cutting 2 inches off each end of the handlebar and replacing those long mirrors with bar ends. That will be an awesome "urban" motorcycle!
It doesn't replace the 900. It's a brand new model
those are cool bikes !!
how about heat from the cat?
This is but a motorcycle review, conversely, I'm in good hands.
Not really new from the ground up. That motor is already on other bikes. That’s not a problem cause that 1200 is great. That bike is a fucking hoot. Like a scrambler and a tiger had a baby.
XE looks much more beautiful than XC
Agreed! It's too bad Triumph won't let you pick the color for either bike. I would go for that blue all day long but the XC is the bike I need. It might sound silly, but I will probably cross them both off my list because of it.
I don't get why you wouldn't use ABS & TC on the street. That's exactly where it's supposed to be used. You may as well go buy some old '80's XL600 if you don't use the functions of the bike you've just paid for.
Not only that, this is a review for the viewer not the rider - need to keep that in mind guys.
Nothing wrong with this bike just not my type.
But not worth $15,000 .
Hell Bent Try 17k out the door
Because the bike isn't your type it's not worth the money? That makes sense.
SuburbanHobbyist -it’s isn’t a every-day type Of bike NOR a beautiful bike, just isn’t worth the cash to me it’s been a year and I still have the same opinion .
@@hellbent6344 No, you misunderstood me. I get it. I was just pointing out that saying it isn't worth it to you to pay $15k and saying it isn't worth $15k in general are kind of two different things. If you like the motorcycle then it might be priced right. It is a very nice motorcycle with all sorts of well above standard and expensive components. $15k is a lot for a bike but even if I don't care for it, I think it's worth the money. Honestly, I'm in a mood tonight and being flippant.
SuburbanHobbyist nothing i worth it at the end we just have to do-be . So let me be
If you can only buy one bike, this or Africa Twin!?
Why power and torque are so low from 1200cc engine? Even old Triumphs with 865cc had comparable figures.
Decisions decisions decisions ! I have a 2017 Street Scrambler, do I sell it and get this ? I have a small garage so no room for two bikes ( I know very sad) This bike seems to really be the best of both worlds and it looks the part. The whole Adventure bike thing not sure that’s for me, I dig the retro style vibe more then the multi color adventure look. I need to get my ass on a test ride pronto ! Great review 👊🏽
For $15k. I'd rather have an Africa Twin, or a vstrom 1000. For commuting. Not a chance. I've been commuting 2,000 miles a month for 9 years. That bike would be miserable. Honesty. It seams like a novelty. And for anyone reading this that's never owned a triumph. Keep in mind. The factory recommended services are required, they are frequent, and they are expensive. I know I sound like a Dbag writing this. But I don't want new riders to find these things out the hard way. These are things that should be mentioned in these videos. It ain't all rainbows & unicorn farts. That being said. I have the pirelli scorpion tires on my bike right now, and I hate them. They are my 3rd set of Pirellis. They've all sucked. A lot. So much more than I can express. Michelin or Dunlop depending on your bike & what you're doing with it. Full stop.
I owned an Africa Twin. No cruise, no IMU, invasive traction control, no tubeless tires, subpar suspension, mediocre brakes and average build quality. The Triumph is better in every way except wind protection.
Good review but I really didn't like the excuse to turn off ABS. Adam might be a capable rider but it's a feature that's meant to be used in a pinch for a majority of riders. It's a bad example to set for a new rider, like saying "why would I need it" if the professionals think it's intrusive and dumb.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I am pretty sure one can only split lanes on the freeway...
You are incorrect
Riding between cars & trucks like that in SC you'll wind up in jail!
Yes, because it is illegal there. It is legal in California.
I sat on one yesterday, I really like it. Best feature, it's tall af. I'm 6'5" 280 lbs, and I don't look like a gorilla fucking a football on it.
I Do likw that the bike is diry! It's actually been used and not just polished... like some other people do...
Too bad the mapping dumps when you turn the bike off....
Bass Player I was thinking the same thing
Bass Player - a first world problem! Regular Road maps don’t dump either. It only drops out of off-road maps to road map on ignition off. Is pressing a button a couple of times a big deal???
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Yes it is, how would you feel if every time you started your computer you had to reset it before you could use it.
They will fix this because everyone dislikes this, well except you...
@@Bass.Player - restarting a computer is not really a valid comparison is it? Here is the scenario. You on road, switch off your bike, go for a coffee, switch on, its in the same rider mode you left it. You are off road in an off-road mode and stop for some water and to admire the scenery. Go get on the bike, start the engine and press a button a couple of times to go back into off-road mode. - Jesus Christ what were Triumph thinking! You must be outraged, outraged I say!! The indignity off it all! You are just looking for something to complain about.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff I clearly understood what you said the first time- doesn't change anything for me. What is it about dirt that makes them feel they need to be big brother, people do not like this
Sweet nod to the great Steve McQueen and Bud Ekins
Engine/exhaust sound awesome. How about less spec-talk and more "how it feels" talk?
Alright I haven't seen it mentioned yet but the video quality is super weird. Looks like there is some kind of cell shading/cartoon filter applied which doesn't look very good. What camera are you using ? A GoPro 7 recording at 4k30 superview, ISO 100, shutter speed 1/60, flat color profile (+ a LUT in post), and a ND32 filter should give you way better footage
You’re in California. Just farting offends the treehuggers! 😂🤣
The " treehuggers" as u call them are the only hope for this planet
The Communist get a sense of humor already.
Yet the only state that allows lane splitting...
I still a little confused on who this bike is made for? Pretty tall, expensive, no wind protection, smallish tank, and not sure you could mount hard or two of any saddle bags. Most BMW GS bikes never see off road for any number of reasons and this bike has some of those same reasons. Wheels and rubber probably not ideal for canyon carving.The heft, height and stiff suspension does make it ideal for city riding.
So not a tourer, off road king, canyon carver, or city slicer. I own Triumphs but I just don't get this bike...
Don't be confused, just release yourself from the world and it's pigeon holes!!!!!......maybe folk will buy it because they just love riding it?.......trackdays, offroad, commuting, go round the world with it...whatever......
@will M - Maybe your right, 50 years riding probably qualifies as a long time. I like the looks and capabilities but....this bike is missing something at least for me. I think I will give the bike a test ride to be fair. At this point in life I don't need a statement bike, there are enough of those guys already.
chr11sf Well said.
Superbike brakes, 90 section front knobby. Be cool if you could get a 17 inch front wheel and make a big ol' supermoto.
You know where you are with a key.
Triumph claims 88.8 hp and 81.1 pound-feet of torque
He's probably quoting those figures at the wheels which will be lower
Lane splitting scares me! You Californians are crazy! Great bike Great review though.
It's totally safe. The gopros make it look way scarier then it really is.
Does the bike come with the dirt, or is it extra?
It's included in the poser package
It's not like I could afford one or anything, but I wouldn't be able to live with that assymetrical fuel cap.
Looks like it came straight from the 90s
Not an entirely bad thing though
I used to think that too. For some reason I just couldn't see the interest in their line up of Scramblers and Cafe Racer type bikes. But for whatever reason they started to grow on me. Now I'm looking at buying one of the damn things. Weird how that is.
Get your hands on a royal enfield gt650
Why? It's flat as a pancake
Mike X You don’t imagine that the difference in price isn’t reflected in value of the bike? They are different categories of bikes. If price is the determining factor, why not review a skateboard?
@@allenparsens5279 it's one of the few bikes that actually offers value. It's competing with bikes that cost 2-4k dollars more.
RE is a bottom tier bike manufacturer. It has a broad base of disgruntled customers in India. When they tried to sell their Himalayan motorcycle in Australia, they were actually blocked by the government. Let me tell you, that is a low bar to surmount. RE was required to make 22 changes to the bike to bring it up to Australian standards. That raised the price to what every other manufacturer was selling at. This is a little peep behind the curtain. I would rather purchase from a manufacturer that has a happier customer base and a better pedigree.
@@allenparsens5279 in the US no one has any issues with their re. Or the UK. And they are thousands less then their next closes competition
Why would you not use ABS when not offroad? Why? Especially with those knobbies?
Why didn’t you take it off road? Where is the Baja Action? You riding to work is as entertaining as paint drying
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Why do you lie ? It Portugal 🇵🇹 you guys hot scolded for jumping the bike!!