2019 Triumph Scrambler 1200 XC - First Ride Review
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- 2019 Triumph Scrambler 1200 XC - First Ride Review: I've seen plenty of reviews on the new Triumph Scrambler 1200 XE but very few on the "XC", so when Triumph asked if Id like to borrow a scrambler for some in depth evaluation I opted for this, the slightly less expensive, slightly less off-road focused model. Here's my first ride review of the bike...
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It's a beautiful bike to look at but too heavy, big and expensive to use it as a scrambler (at least for most), heat from exhaust is hard to deal with (same issue with the Street Scrambler) and no cure for it. It's an issue in city traffic and everything above reasonable temperature (20C and up). All in all a nice accessory to be parked in your garage to show to guests but not a overly useable bike and that comes from a real Triumph fanboy! Nice first impression vid TMF - it was good to hear that you dared to address the heat issue (no other reviewer did). Stay safe.
Thanks WV - appreciate the kind comments and thanks for watching!
@@TheMissendenFlyer TMF (calling you TMF seems odd 2 me) - I enjoy your being honest and that's why I watch your vids. I wonder how your bikes doing you recently acquired - no news on them since you revealed the purchase. I'm considering a T120 after having ridden the Street Twin, Street Scrambler and Scrambler XC - which I all liked for the looks but engine heat (Scramblers) and cramped riding position (Street Twin) turned me towards the T120. You correctly mentioned in your review that the T120 needs force to go around corners - but did you also notice that it tilts if you go very slow (eg turning in a small road in city traffic)? Felt like the old 900 Scrambler having the same strange steering . Stay safe
Much more on the RE and Speed Twin coming up - I have made videos on both since the reveals, I wonder if you didn't get the notifications for them? All the best - Andy
@@TheMissendenFlyer Hi Andy, usually I get the notifications. Looking forward to the respective vids. Can you confirm the steering behaviour of the T120? Stay safe
Always welcome to have a good TMF review going into the weekend. Just for a second there I thought you were pulling in front chequers again ! Oops not today officer..,,..
Lovely machine you have borrowed there Andy. Allways a pleasure to watch your reviews. 🇩🇰😎🇬🇧🏁
That 270 degree crank definitely gives the bike a distinctive and appealing sound.
Yes a good idea of Triumph to do that with all the current Bonnies....
Great review I am stuck in time warp of do I buy the retro Kawasaki 900 in lime green and white and add higher handle bars or go for this ? Would love to hear the exhaust at 60 mph , any chance of rigging up the recorder close to the pipes for a 30 second blast as only you are getting that experience ? I cannot wait for part 2 , cheers.@@TheMissendenFlyer
My ScramblerXE (nicknamed - The Bison) and I are best friends...after 7 months and 8500 miles...we’re one. I’m 6’2” and 250lbs and the bike looks and fits like it was built for me. I love it...love it love it. The exhaust has never bothered me...of course it’s hot but what would one expect? Power and handling is awesome...after adjusting the suspension for my Off-Road style and of course my daily commute, I can quickly dial front and rear to my marked settings as needed. A fresh set of Continental TrailAttack3 tires take the bike to another level...stock Tourances were mediocre at best. Anyhow, XE or XC...the Scrambler 1200 is legit! About to go out and give mine a much needed bath...heavy rains and irresistible muddy trails around the house have her looking rough! Ride on!
Lastly.
Mirrors - agreed...the one thing I hate. Swapped the same style out on my 2005 Bonneville too. Replaced mine with DoubleTake ADV mirrors.
Toggle/controls - easily adapted and work great without issue once you’ve hit the break-in period service.
EN ESPAÑA SE HABLA,, ESPAÑOL. VIVAAA. ESPAÑA.
SI NO SABEN EL ESPAÑOL NO VENDAN NADA,, AQUI O ES QUE TENEMOS QUE SABER EL CATALA.
Thanks for the review 👍🏍.
I haven’t taken much notice of Triumph machines in recent times but this Scrambler 1200 looks very nice.
Love some of the features.
Looking forward to your in-depth review.
Cheers.
It's a beautiful bike, no doubt about that. The heat from the exhaust would be more than an issue in my country. I don' tknow if Triumph could do something about this. Could be a deal breaker for some people.
De-cat the header pipes and apparently that drops the heat level down to a more bearable level.
I got an unbelievable deal on one just before Triumphs year end. It was a 603 mile round trip to get it on one of the hottest days of the year, on the way there my old bike was reading 35°c while filtering around the M25. On the way back it felt hotter, sadly the XC hasn’t got a outside temperature gauge but when down to about 40 mph in traffic I could feel the heat from the exhaust pipes. However as soon as I was out of traffic they soon cooled down. I’ve ridden the bike all summer around the twisty’s in Wales and the exhaust hasn’t been an issue but there’s rarely traffic where I live. Got to be honest, I love it and sounds awesome echoing around the valleys.
Seems there's a good deal of exhaust shielding. Any worry about heat on your right leg during the ride?? Beautiful bike. I want one.
No no issue on that for me....
Your videos on the 1200 XC convinced me into buying one. Excellent insights thanks!
Considering how much the previous generation BMW asymmetrical headlights offended your tender sensibilities sir, how are you getting on with the lop-sided single saddlebag? I love this bike, possibly even more than the Speed Twin for looks. How do the two compare on this the road? Fantastic review again TMF, always a pleasure watching.
Pease!
Yes the saddlebag did trouble me a little!!
I rode a Street Scrambler when they first came out and loved it. Found it a bit cramped for a bulky sort of bloke like me but still fell in love with it. This XC model looks very similar to the 900 just a bit bigger with more oomph.
I think one of the downsides of riding lots of different bike is it must play havoc with your muscle memory.... the Triumph toggle is a bit fiddly but like all things you get used to it pretty quickly (except for old BMW indicators and Honda horns... they are just daft). Nice review as always. I have an 18 Street RS and like yourself have a soft spot for Triumph, not rose tinted glasses, they are genuinely properly decent bikes.
Agreed!
Funny you say that as my only bike so far has been a Honda, so every time I demo another bike, I'm always slapping the horn because I'm so used to the way Honda does it. lol
Such a beast 👍🏻 only £800 cheaper than the XE tho but more suited if you are vertically challenged.
Yeah.. TMF! Lol.. £11,500 to £12,300 isnt the £1800 difference you mention at 11'37 ;)
A nice retro feel looking bike for tootling round country roads on a sunny day.
Man I thought you would never do this one! Finally! Thank you!
Sorry for the wait - more to come!
I love the XC and if I were to get the Scrambler 1200, I would consider it over the XE as I don't do any offroad. I really do think the XC should also have the IMU though. That's just an additional safety feature every bike should have these days and really shouldn't be locked behind the XE paywall. That to me is huge turn off.
Hi tmf good first impression so far likening the xc scrambler mate 👌👌
That is a stunning looking bike. Triumph have delivered here.
Nice review as ever TMF, it's a good bike. When the the XE/XC scrambler's were announced I was really keen to to get one. A test ride showed me it's a terrific bike....but then the Tenere 700 was on its way and I've held back! ...it's that search for the perfect do everything bike everything ...Cheers, Steve
Exactly what a bike review should be - time and time again. Thank you
£11500 and £12300 only £800 difference but I'd still rather the XC. Don't like the gold forks and colours of the XE. Nice review, cheers.
Once more thanks for the video, Mr Flyer!
You're always welcome Rutger...
Love the looks of this bike. I just wish a reviewer would be honest about the heat issue. its well documented but nobody mentions it. Love all the reviews. Just hope your not getting into journo territory with the loan bikes you get.
Please keep it real TMF as you always had. You have a great and loyal fanbase.
bri sprott - I am a big triumph fan. Disclosure made. I test rode a 1200 xe in the heat of last Summer for about 2 hours (didn’t want to get off). The only time the hot exhaust was a problem was standing on the pegs. My 31” inside leg is pressed right on the exhaust. Also, in the dim distant past, I have been pinned down by a hot exhaust after taking a tumble. Don’t wanna be doing that again.
Glad you like it ! Amazing video !
Stunning looking machine - really like what they have done here! Thank you for another great review!
They are lovely, very nearly bought the taller XE after taking one out, at 6ft 3 I can flat foot it. That engine has lovely low RPM grunt. Did not find the seat comfortable and that fancy TFT dash I found difficult to read.
Awesome review as usual! Try to get your hands on a Moto Guzzi V7 III. Would like to hear your thoughts on that bike.
Love the green NSU at 3.30
What a beauty! Are those legit bark busters on the grips? I didn't like the mirrors at first ,but they do sort of fit with the overall look.
Bill Cotton Legit but optional extra.
How do you keep uploading when I'm having my morning dump haha. Great timing!
Glad to be of use - I’ll upload while you download....
Google User I would’ve said crap timing! TMF is your enema!!!😱🤣🤭
Dang TMF that is 😁
I bet you'll enjoy off-roading more on this than the XE
I got my 1200 XC a few weeks ago - and I absolutely love it! I traded in an awesome 2016 T120, that I loved, and only this iteration of the Triumph 1200 could convince me to do so. So cool, powerful, and comfortable!
BTW : We've had real-feel temperatures of over 100 degrees Fahrenheit for the last week here in Ohio and I honestly haven't been bothered by the exhaust heat. I wear Kevlar-lined jeans and ride mostly country roads and haven't had any issues at all. I recognize that the heat may increase in stop-and-go traffic but it shouldn't be enough to discourage anyone from this fantastic motorcycle.
Congratulations - glad you're enjoying it!
can u wear SHORT while riding this bike with very bad Traffic ?
Hi, how does it compare on road with the t120?
Must try these two models out love the scrambler look and the sexy black colour scheme, be intresting to see longer term. I have an 865 se which i really enjoy chucking around and stands me in for nout, tempted to get a newer Triumph erring towards the scrambler. You grinning more on this or the speed twin? ;0 decisions decisions Good Job mr TMF.
The fact I bought a Speed Twin May tell you something??
Had one for 6 months this year, found it very top heavy, exhaust absolutely unbearable in the summer even with a decat, tried to sell it back to a truimph dealer, they did not want it and said that they where not worth the PX price quoted in the glasses guide about £1000 less, wiring around the headstock started to wear after 1000 miles.
Great bike to look at and ride, fantastic engine and comfort up to 70mph though.
Oh dear!
Expect to take a hit on any bike selling back to a dealer. Sell private or part exchange.
@@splodge5714 yes well aware of that the point I was trying to make was the dealer actually said that these bikes where not as popular as triumph had expected and they would not be interested in buying them back. Sold it privately no problem.
Where might this rank amongst the retro Triumph range? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts once you've had some time with the XC.
10 seconds in and some bell end pulls out in front of truck 🤣.
Prince Philip got his license back?
👍🤣
@@mikewarner888 ROFLMAO :)
thanks for your video is center stand is with bike or extera so many thanks for video i love it.
At 40 I am just getting into biking and your reviews and advice are really helpful.
Glad to be of help Mark!
Great review. I agree. Brilliant bike. I test rode it and fell in love, so bought one last month! You might see me at some point hooning around on it in Buckingham/Aylesbury areas!
Do give me a wave if you see me about!
Enjoyed the video , very good , look forward to the long term review
Like how you are fair dinkum enough to say that for the some motorcycles less is sometimes more. That would upset the marketing department no end.
Whoops!!
Really like the looks of the XE more and love that bike in black. Really enjoying the bikes you've had the past few months in particular.
Sorry to ask in advance of me finishing your video as I am at work (gulp)...will you be a doing a long term review??? Any commentary on what it might be like for a passenger would be lovely! :) thank you so much for this review on THIS bike! Love it!
Hello, very nice review.
I’m 1,70 (5ft. 7) would you think it would be fine for my hight ?
I think I've watched this video so many times I would have worn it out if it were on VHS! One day I will get one...(sigh) restarts review again...Your reviews are very prescient for me as I'm the same height/weight/age as you. (Not that age has anything to do with it but y'know) So, if it fits you, it fits me!
Lovely looking Triumph, glad to see they doing so well. Thanks Andy look forward to your follow up.
Stay tuned Ken!
Tires that have this kind of tread, still make weary of any hard-core off reading other than gravel roads/lanes. Too slippery for my liking, but..like the bike for sure. I love the saddlebag that converts into a carry bag. Definitely need a deep bag if it's only to be a one sided bag option. The handguards I could see myself doing, the extra lamps, yup. Just as this sits in the video, would be my options. Perhaps slightly, slightly more knobs on those tires
Fabulous bike. I dismissed the Scrambler range as Triumph chasing the hipster dollar but this looks the real deal. Love it.
Definitely a bike I would consider in the future, look forward to your further reviews, thanks TMF.
Cheers Dave....
I do believe Triumph has snagged me; now, it’s just a matter of which bike. Is the XC’s suspension better on rough roads than your Speed Twin’s suspension?
Walter Wilkins 200mm travel on XC.
I'd have this bike on looks alone - beautiful. Took one out a few months back and it was as nice to ride as it looks. Look forward to seeing them start to appear secondhand as the price is a little too much for what you get.
they are still expensive even now , rarely find them with high enough mileage to reduce the value
It's a curious mix of retro and modern which, aesthetically, does not quite work for me. The TFT, the hand guards and a few other bits of body addenda look slightly out of kilter with the handsome retro shapes. Having said that, it's a bike I like a lot. Thanks for the review.
Thanks for watching!
Another one ☝️ of my fave bikes , another good honest review, keep it up 👍
Willco...
Great review. I'm going to try and test drive one this week and post my review. I may end up buying this one. We'll see.
Hi
Great first review!!
Does the bike come with a centre stand as standard fitment?
Regards Rich
I don't honestly know....sorry!
Looking at 2 bikes at the moment in the triumph range, really interesting to know your thoughts on the scrambler v speed.
This bike is fitted with the Inspiration Kit so comes with a host of extras. The main stand being just one of them
Optional extra. Can’t fit one to the XE though.
This is true. Triumph only list one for the XC and they are on back order with the factory
You’re right the XC is the one to have not the more expensive XE. My friend has this bike (same “showcase” accessory package and color) and just dropped it trying to load in the back of a truck. Loads of damage. You don’t want to know what the fuel tank costs. I didn’t even get to ride it and compare to my Tiger 800! Do you not like the TFT on the triples??
Haven’t seen the very latest RS but the previous ones no....
TheMissendenFlyer 🤔 That’s interesting. I haven’t seen the latest RS one either, but I have no issue with the one on my Tiger 800.
TMF, yours maths are a bot askew old boy! Actually the XE is only £800 more than the XC (£12300 XE., £11500 XC) which considering the many upgrades like 50mm more suspension, lean sensitive ABS and TC, off road pro function, heated grips, better brake and clutch levers , handguards etc is astonishing! I think the XC looks much nicer and more low profile though. Not tried it yet but I suspect it is the better bike on the road.
It's the gold forks on the XE and the "modern" colours and Thriumph triangle logo. They just don't look as good as this version.
Standing up on the pegs...? Let’s face it TMF... you’re only gonna be doing that when you’re blowing off!!! 😂😂😂
Splendid review, can’t wait for more!
Stay tuned!
Which one of the two would you say has the most comfortable suspensions?
Speedytrip The XE has 50mm more travel and IMO more comfortable(ish). I bought the XC as 90% of my riding is on road. It handles well and able to scrape both sides of the foot pegs. Love it.
Nice! Especially the two grand cheaper part.
Be interesting to see how uncomfortable it would be with regards the heat here in summer.
Sometimes I regret getting my T120 instead of this. But honestly it’s too pretty to get aggressive off-road with. I’m going to go out and buy a used DRZ or KLR for $2500, something that is designed to drop/scratch up!
Exactly , you wouldn't want to take it off road.
@@karlosh9286 Yeah. I have plans to take my T120 gently offroading/camping in Moab Utah ASAP, I'll be cringing the whole time lol. This Scambler would probably be the same way.
Not offering cornering ABS on this one even as an option is silly, so the excessive heat on your right leg ! Other than that it's one of the nicest bikes in 2019'
Very nice looking bike, less is often more, like that too. Thanks again TMF, look forward to the next instalment.
Cheers Colin - always good to know you're out there watching!
Great review. Would definitely go for this model over the XE. Any chance of a review of the latest Street Scrambler. I rode the pre-updated model and thought it was a great bike, I still think I'd choose it over the 1200. I think the smaller engined bike is better suited to the retro scrambler idea and (in my opinion at least) the smaller bike looks better.
It's a lovely looking bike and one that could easily be repainted any colour you want with only a change to the tank. (I do love a candy apple red and black possibility). Nice!
I know this is a bike review (good one too) but whats that on your left hand glove?
My Visorcat
Nice review, i think i’d go with the on road version as well, you seemed a bit mixed up with prices in the review, you gave the prices at £800 apart but said £1800, which one is it ? keep the reviews coming, they’re brilliant.
Apologies - £800
That’s a cracking looking bike, gotta say I’m loving that exhaust, kinda gives me that army 🤘🏻looking motorcycle feeling 👍🏻
Gorgeous machine. One can only hope you take her out on a green lane, just to surprise us all....👍🏼 👏👏👏 😎 🇺🇸
Stay tuned!
That my friend, I promise. 👍🏼
Thank you for posting. Good looking bike. At first, I was not all that crazy about the pipes being on the side, but they seem to be growing on me. I most likely missed it, but does it come with heated grips, are they an option, or they are not available?
I think Triumph will put heated grips on all their bikes. They're something like a £200 + fitting option on the cheaper Modern Classics.
Great first impressions thanks TMF And really impressive quality bits. Seriously good. Can this be me me, having praise for a Triumph! The exhaust routing is a negative decider though, completely out of the question in our warm climate. 12k for 1200cc is that cheap? The scafolding / leather bag on the left only - for obvious reasons - is a bit micky mouse. But look forward to in depth review.
Stay tuned Robert!
Thanks Andrew I will 😄
Looking forward, beautiful bike the Scrambler. Thanks TMF
I was going to do my normal old git moan about it being too modern blah blah ..but...if I had that sort of spare cash I would probably buy one !!!
So Springy , think before you type !...
Happy days young Mr Flyer peace and love brother 👍🏻☮❤
Cheers....
It looks better than the XE. Those gold forks on the XE just don't fit the classic looks.
I didn't think the XC had Cruise Control? Is it another "option" because that bike you're on has a lot of extras.
Cruise Control is standard spec on both the XC & XE
@@paulharrison8155 Thanks
What's the model of this Furygan jacket?
Another good first look video TMF.
Love your reviews. Unfortunately I am in the US. mm and liters don't make much sense. I guess I could stop the video every time.
In fact mm and liters make sense in 187 countries in the world. Think about it 😀
You are so right. It just doesn't work for me.
@@jeffhe2 just think of it this way..bigger/more is a good thing
Great video as ever. One question what have you got attached to your left glove?
Thanks
My Visorcat
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks never seen one before
HA!! I was JUST thinking about how the mirrors looked like Mickey Mouse ears and then you mention the same thing!! Great minds? Another great review!!!!
Wingdwolf 56 Everything in the Universe is connected ;)
Hello! do you think if it put a anti-heat tapes on exhaust achieve contein the hot at leggs and body
It may help a little I guess…..
Tks Mr. for answer!!!. Great videos and complete reviews
been doing my head in, What is that black thing on you left glove?
My Visorcat
thats a nice machine
Both the XC and XE are great bikes. Being tall I bought the XE and for the £800 extra I feel you get some added extras that are worth the price and I prefer the looks. However this one looks great in black. Had one hot summers ride where the exhaust felt hot whilst queuing but otherwise I love everything about the bike.
Martyn Laverick ...I had the same problem regards the heat...fitted the tank pads, that throws your knees off about 10 mm...But a Free Spirits de cat is on the cards I think. It’s expensive mind, so I might send the pipe to Tec bike parts...take a look on you tube...he’ll de cat the original for £80.00,
Proportion vise I think this one looks better that the XE, also I really dislike the golden front forks, just looks silly on most bikes, why Triumph will not give this version the same electronic package is unacceptable as the models cater to different riders.
About the instrument cluster I agree, a retro looking bike should have old style clocks with a smaller oled screen in between, aka t120 or the 900rs.
Also one thing that should be forbidden by the authorities is key less for motorcycles, who ever thought that was a good idea must be a car person, stupidly!
Great review as always.
is this oaay for daily commute?
Perfect!
I'm not sure these can honestly be called retro anymore, perhaps more "retro futuristic"
Would you recommend this bike for 2up?
Yes no problem
Any complaints about the 21" front? Seems like for a street oriented bike it doesn't make all that much sense to have such a large wheel up there. There are many negatives to having the 21 hoop up there. Your tire options are limited, the front end can feel harder to turn in, usually it makes the connection to the road feel more vague...
Also it seems like the OIS on your phone may be going bad, when you do the walk around you can see it trying to stabilize and focus.. there's some evidence that suggests that the vibrations from a motorcycle can damage a phones camera when mounted on the handlebar. May not hurt to get something like a GoPro session and use that instead, but run it in regular, non-wide angle mode.
Nice review. Not really in to scramblers personally but it does look good and seems to go very well too.
It sure does....
Mmmm, wonder if I would have bought the Ducati 1100 Scrambler Special if these had been around a year ago. Triumph would have been a better fit at my 6.4 height. 🤔
At 6'4", almost any bike would have been a better choice than an 1100 Scrambler. I had to get a "comfort" seat (+1" height and not especially "comfortable) for mine and lower the foot rest 1 5/8" to get any relief from the cramped riding position, and I'm only 5'10" (but really old & creaky).
@@JustPlainBill0 second bike is a Super Tenere, so comfort (bordum) not doing long trips on Ducati, but still. 🤔
Enjoyed that, I really like the look of the XC (though I'd go for the green one). I think this one looks more authentic than the XE, where those big forks look a bit OTT to me - all down to what you like, and whether you'd actually go off-road. BTW, someone has probably mentioned, but it's only an £800 difference between base XC and XE models ;-)
Indeed my bad - a few have mentioned
What do you mean "authentic", the original scramblers were the most flashy bikes of the range, 1970 t100c had metal flake purple paint, high level chrome exhaust's and mudguards. Norton's and bsa's were the same.
@@adam-il1fi fair shout. I guess I should have prefixed my view with 'in my opinion', ie my view of what an 'authentic' look means to me. When it boils down to it, I just love the slightly more restrained look of the XC.
I think I would really enjoy this bike!
I'm torn between the Scrambler 1200 XC and the Speed Twin, so I'll be following this long-term machine with interest. As I already have a 2009 Street Triple, I'm leaning towards the Scrambler, the Speed Twin providing too much of a similar riding experience.
16 litre pear shaped tank. Now why can't they put that on the Speed Twin ? hmmmph !
Lovely bike! I don't like those indicators though. They look like an old radioreporters mike! ;-) Look forward to the next episode. It's a shame Triumph is such an expensive bike here in DK.
If I didn't know better, I'd think you like your Triumph's....lol
I do indeed! Thanks for watching as ever...
I tried the 2017 scrambler 900cc and I liked it ,but could not get over how my right leg felt like it was out in the traffic because of that high level exhaust protruding out. So I went for a Street twin instead .
I'm in agreement the XC is the more practical model. And on the dirt, the XE is actually more difficult to control despite all the fancy advertising. The extra travel in the XE is pointless. It may look more MX but nobody is getting much air on a 1200.
In fact the higher geometry makes the XE far more unstable on dirt.
I've ridden both on tracks neither models were ever designed to go. The XE is just a gnats cock from dropping most of the time. It's far too tall for a bike of such weight. I'm 6 feet tall with 100s of MX meetings under my belt and couldn't wait to get the XE off the dirt and back on the road.
On the road the XC out performs the XE there too despite the lean assist. In fact I'd state the lean assist lures one into a false sense of security.
The XC is the scrambler. The XE is a better looking bike, but a mistake imho. Yet it's out sold the XC hands down.
Yes I agree - the XE looks better but this is the nicer bike to ride and live with...
In my opinion the XC looks better, something looks strange dimension vise on the XE, but I am 188cm so maybe the XE would be better!