RTD Goes Full 'Destroy the Past, Kill It' on 60 Years of Doctor Who & Fandom
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- Your man Salty looks at multiple articles and sources to put together the coded message in showrunner RUSSELL T DAVIES published statements on the DOCTOR WHO CHRISTMAS SPECIAL 'The Church on Ruby Road'. This includes his declaration that THE EPISODE is a RESET OF DOCTOR WHO and that the Ncuti Gatwa era is SEASON ONE... from all indications DISCARDING THE PREVIOUS 60 YEARS of what had been a very loyal, established, worldwide fandom of a beloved science-fiction franchise.
But the ONE THING HE KEPT appears to be THE FOUND CHILD NARRATIVE of the Doctor's origin- the much hated and canon-breaking Jodie Whittaker / Chris Chibnall episode THE TIMELESS CHILD.
We also look at how the episode will prominently FEATURE REPRESENTATION, particular of LGBTQ+ themes directed in RTD own words 'at the children'.
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I guess that's a nice move for fans because now they can ignore these new seasons completely.
This is why I am covering the show the way that I am. Cutting to the root causes and motivations of those who create it, rather than focusing on what by now we all can see are very, very predictable lazy, transhumanist tropes and messaging.
Yeah, I'll ignore them. RTD has lost his mind, and most of the 🇬🇧 viewers
That is what I am doing. I ignored Whitaker. Completely. If not for the BBC she would not be getting any work at all, she was that bad. I am just glad I binned my license back in 2013 and I am not paying towards this drek. I will never watch live TV again and certainly not the BBC. In the past ten years I have not missed it at all. All this has even managed to put me off the 2005 return of the show. I am just sticking to the classic era from now on, even though I have seen them a million times they are far more entertaining and better to watch than anything in the last few years...
I will not watch Twice Upon a Time because if I don't see Capaldi regenerate I can deny that Jodie Whitaker and beyond ever happened. Until a true fan comes along and retcons this mess The Doctor Falls is where Doctor Who ends for me.
What's crazy about this is Dr Who was tanking badly with Whittaker - they knew they needed to start afresh, to reboot it.
So instead of going back to what worked, or identifying what was causing it to fail and remove it.....they took the very thing that was killing it, dialled it up to 11, retconned all the stuff that worked and rebooted it a new with that!
It's like trying to stop the titanic sinking by putting another, bigger, hole in it.
Jodie Whitaker was very poorly cast, written and presented. Faye Marsay would have been a more imaginative casting choice and a decently drama literate team brought in. Her era was flat noise. I have a friend who has a vision defect in that he has no or very little depth perception. He sees three-dimensions as if they are two-dimensional theatre flats. He's had this all his life and has learnt over the half-century to cope. This is the way that I see Jodie Whitaker's era. Flat, noisy and devoid of any depth of character.
The hole was needed to let the water out...
How can RTD claim to be a fan and then wreck everything it stood for, its like saying you like the Beatles and buying/wiping their mastertapes.
Other commenters have made the reference in this section- it's like taking the Beatles and making them recent 2023 'immigrants' in the 1960s... and all gay. Because muh representation.
He doesn't realise that this crap does more harm than good to acceptance of minorities. Gay rights only really gained momentum when people saw that the majority of gay people are just ordinary people leading ordinary lives. When Ireland voted in gay marriage laws a reporter was interviewing people in the street about it and one old man said he'd voted 'yes' because "Why shouldn't the gays have the right to be as miserable as the rest of us?"
Equality is bringing everyone up to the same level. Not elevating minorities above that level.
There have always been certain fans (Chibnall is exhibit 1) who have moaned about the show and said that they could do better. Unfortunately, some of them managed to get jobs in broadcasting.
@Benjiesbeenbetter. Gay man here, I agree.
As a life-long Who fan from the Tom Baker era, I was extremely disappointed with the Chinballs run, but I was willing to give the new RTD run a fair chance to pull me back in.
That chance was squandered the moment the trans crap was put right in the middle of it.
I started watching Dr Who at 6 yrs old at the end of the 5th Doctor's run. When the VHS came out I watched a lot of the older Doctors before my time and I liked Early Tom but never liked the Comedy Tom era. Even though I still not a fan of that era I'd rather watch that and enjoy it over NuWho
Things change.
@@joshuajoshua2732Yeah, that's entropy.
There never would have been a comedy Tom era if Mary Whitehouse had not got involved. She was a miserable old battle axe on a religion ego trip. And was a self appointed champion of moaning to the BBC about anything she did not like or agree with that she thought was naughty, sexy or violent or morally incorrect etc. She moaned at the BBC about the Troughton story Tomb of the Cybermen! It was too violent for kids! She pitched three fits about the early Tom Baker era and went bonkers to the BBC with a letter writing campaign after Genesis of the Daleks went out. She kept this up year after year and it culminated during the Deadly Assassin story when Tom Baker as the Doctor was having to fight Goth in the Matrix. The BBC caved in to her in the end, and made the show tone down the scares and atmosphere and brought in K9 for the younger kids as Star Wars had just happened and they wanted to surf the robot craze of the late 70s. Tom did well with the silly stuff and played it up no end, but it was not the same. I never forgave that old witch Whitehouse for being such a pain and killjoy. I was actually glad when she passed away. If she was around now with the show as it is and LGBT stuff she would have three heart attacks! The irony....
@@Simon-xc5oy Yes! 100% agree! Even as a kid I knew what a toxic, self-important busybody she was.
You could say the wheel has turned 360 again, and now we have toxic self-important activists demanding everything conform to their narrow demographic and cancelling those who have a balanced view & refuse to adopt the extreme leftist dogma.
Nothing wrong with the occasional gay character, but RTD now thinks everyone in his gay bubble is the norm & its the hetero 97% that need "re-educating"
Does he think this? Or does he infact NOT think this. 😂
Or recruiting. Recruiting of CHILDREN to be SPECIAL by joining something... that "community" that the show is touting.
I grew up in the 70s/80s where the agreement was tht people were born the way they were, that it was inherent to who they were as individuals. but it was about looking at each person individually, and their sexuality NOT DEFINING who or what they were... rather their skills, talents, personality and accomplishments as individuals. If you were a dickhead, you were a dickhead, regardless of sexual orientation. And you were called out on it.
Now... sexuality has been made into THE IDENTITY. Not each person being the sum of their intelligence, deeds, decisions and how they treat others. And regardless of how much of a dickhead someone with that IDENTITY acts, you're (insert Woke label) -ist if you call it out.
@@georgemoseley1504 Not watched the Imagine doc then? The guys nuts. After relentlessly blaming the government for the AIDS crisis, he spouts crap like... "Sometime all the safe sex warnings in the world CANNOT stop you & that's the TRUTH!!"🤦 So who's fault was it Russell? the Government issuing warnings or promiscuous gay men willfully ignoring them?
There are more Alphabet People in the world of fiction than in real life.
I used to live in a shared house with the leader of our university's Gay Society. They believed straight men were lying and were really bisexual and bisexual men were deluding themselves and were 100% gay. I guess their fantasies had triumphed over their grasp of reality.
I think we need to back to the idea that being gay is "about as normal as being a straight man born without testicles".
RTD has made this his own personal vehicle for his beliefs, at the expense of the show.
He always did. He just hadn't acquired the demi-god status his adoring fans have now given him that enables him to make his proclamatons of How The World Should Be.
It's become one fanboy's dream...
...but a nightmare for the Fans
@QuackVideo Someone I was talking to once nearly caused me to choke to death on my beer by saying the showrunners have turned the series into their own masturbatory fantasy.
@@gilgameshofuruk4060 You are dead right.
In all the years watching Tom Baker zipping around in a travelling box, with a metal dog, visiting wobbly-wall alien cities; I never felt the show was this unrealistic.
Thanks RTD for at least making it a clear jumping off point.
Heh...my thoughts too. It used to be great fun. You ignored all the dodgy effects and used imagination to fill in the blanks and improve things. Simply because the lead actor was so good, so worth watching and sold it completely. From the early years when it was spooky and creepy with Holmes and Hinchcliffe to the lighter later years when K9 was around, it was always a blast to watch because of Tom Baker. Since then the only actors in the show to come close to that were Tennant and Smith. For various reasons. They captured it, the quirky, the eccentric, the burden he carried and could do the lighter stuff well especially Smith. I have no interest in anything else going forward as it looks and sounds so dire.
@@Simon-xc5oy I'll always take good writing and performances over flashy effects. Unfortunately, a lot of the home-spun charm has disappeared since the producers decided to take a firm political standpoint and alienate a lot of the fanbase. 😕
Yes. I much prefer the original classic series now. I was too young for Pertwee so I have enjoyed his run later in life. I like how it changes from a very Quatermass style in season one, to evolve into its eco message and social commentary period later, before he gets to go back into space in the Tardis, before finally leaving earth behind for good with Tom Baker. As I started with Baker I just sort of accepted that it was mostly set on alien planets rather than earth. One thing that annoyed me no end with the 2005 version is it constantly going back to a housing estate in London, and constant current Earth companions. All of time and space to explore etc and different people from time periods. I loved the Leela era as she was so wild and different and the Doctor was trying to teach her, and how she reacted to things outside her knowledge was so much fun to watch. The classic era still rules and its still the best version of the show. Its also going to be the only version that keeps its fans the way things are going....
@@Simon-xc5oy I loved the way they went in 2005, and hoped the show was getting an update that would revitalise it and, at the same time, bring in new fans. It worked for a while, but in retrospect, it didn't last long and it wasn't all good.
I've gone back to the start for a complete rewatch, and it's an incredibly hard shift from the last few series. I also know which version I'm going to enjoy more this time round. 👍
Well said. Like you I liked the soap opera elements at first, anything to bring in a larger audience. But I still thought the best stories were the traditional Doctor Who style ones like Dalek, Silence in the Library or The Satan Pit etc....The Rose stuff got more and more screen time and more and more plot, with her mum and her ex boyfriend etc. When they was over and she left, they should have gone full Doctor Who and gone for a different time period companion and stayed away from Earth for a good while. I am also digging back to Hartnell and am about to start the original Daleks story, supposedly restored, but it still looks grainy and dark and i need of a clean up to me....oh well its better than anything else on Tv tonight...Merry Christmas to you....
Before I started listening to you, I was actually thinking about giving this Doctor a chance. But after what you said, I have just about lost hope. So sadly, Thank you. Now just one thing. The Doctor had always been for Everyone. All who had been rejected and put down, who were not the standard figure for society. The problem is RTD has forgotten the fans and ignored the fact that society doesn't consents of just one group .
I am just one person. My opinion is only as valid as anyone else's- no more, no less. I always say look at competing viewpoints for other takes- what do the pro-show channels say, and why they are saying it? That can help one, I think, form their own built opinion. For me, I think the REAL STORY of this RTD/Disney alliance is the agenda, the targeting of kids, and alignment with what I see as obvious goals set for Globalist agendas that have no one's best interests in ming but their elitist own.
I was going to give it a chance until I saw the goblin song and read that the movie is not going to be science fiction anymore, but fantasy. Apparently, spilling salt at the edge of the universe has changed reality and now we're not going to be threatened by mad scientists, mutants, megalomaniac computers and space aliens, but by goblins and, who knows, fairies, pixies and bloody hobbits.
Yes but you are right. I am an older fan, been there since the start of Tom Baker. I tuned out in the Capaldi era as I could see where it was going. I had a tiny flicker of hope when RTD and Tennant were announced as returning. Then I saw the Star Beast. I expected it to still be Woke but nothing as bad as this was, to insult the Doctor, the men and the long term fans and most of the audience on the 60th was beyond stupid. It was even worse than anything in the Whitaker era and that was bad enough.
I gave up at again and did not watch any more of the specials as they were anything but. Here in England most people cant grasp or believe what on earth they are doing to the show! And they are using race as shield to protect it from any critics. And homophobia. And the thing is , with Gatwa having seen his interviews it was also clear to me that there is nothing to him personality wise other than the fact he is black and gay. As that is all he has gone on about, the same way Whitaker did about being the first female Doctor. Its so predictable and so terribly bad. Until your video I had no idea they had a 5 year deal on the Disney money etc. That is going to be the only thing keeping the show on air by that point. As the BBC wanted to raise the license fee by a large amount and the government would not let them. Its still going up a lot but it could have been worse. So now the BBC is cutting shows and budgets and dropping long term series. They will do anything to protect the fee, other than make some things people actually want to watch.
So no matter how bad it gets, and it will as there is barely 2% of people in the UK that are part of the LGBT crowd the show will still be going out, even if its getting below a million viewers by that point. I just wonder how far it will fall, and how many people will be brought under the spell of its woke indoctrination.....
@@Benjiesbeenbetter. my take is there can be cross over between scifi and fantasy. Depends on how you set it up. However I have a serious problem with the other Tardis. That wasn't even fantasy. That was cartoonish. If you have a occasional semi fantasy story, no problem. All fantasy, problem.
You shouldn't have bothered watching the video. You should make your own mind up from watching the show yourself and not rely on overtly right-wing, American nut-jobs doing the thinking for you. Look at the people who actually created the show back in the 60s, try to understand the ethics and moral compass of that series and you will see that the current show and RTD's mission is exactly the same as it has always been. What has changed is the toxic, on-line environment which the show has to deal with. Doctor Who Fandom used to have a quality threshold, where the types of people commenting here wouldn't have got through the 'door.'
So I can now breathe easier knowing when Capaldi said, “Doctor, I let you go...” that was the end of the series for me. I don't care for 13, and the timeless child arc is BS. 14 is a 10th Doctor imposter; it is not him. They can have their new series. Let's see if it carries on for over 50 years the way it is going.
Well, RTD has made it clear who he's aiming this at now. Never had an issue with representation, but have a big problem with the condescending / cringe way they're handling it. This journey has reached my station & I'm departing. Had a fun 50 years but I think the train is broken.
40 years for me. I think the story around this is the effects of the unholy marriage of the BBC/BadWolf/Sony/Disney. I think that this is a case study in the outcome of late-stage Intersectionality (Identity instead of character, to quote Disparu) on deconstructed franchises/intellectual properties. I think this is the stage of revealing WHY the deconstruction occurred and WHAT the real intentions were all along, not just in WHO but everything.
I've got some theories on that but I'll put them in a video.
The train isn't broken as such, it's gone down the wrong track, the track is all bent out of shape, the train is bouncing around all over the place, everyone on it is feeling sick and its about to crash straight into the side of a mountain.
I am glad you put it that way. I am not against including all people and the message can be good. It's as you said the heavy handed method that is the problem. I believe to a degree the Doctor had a message and a good one. But it wasn't the only reason for the show.
@@SaltyTravelingC Thanks for your reply. I think it was broken before the Bad Wolf/Sony/Disney association - Chibnall saw to that & the viewing figures started tanking under his watch. However instead of trying to fix it (they'd sooner blame 'toxic fans' than their modus operandus), like many of these franchises, the producers just double down and make even more disasterous decisions. I also have a few theories as to why this ramped up (something to do with a big event in 2016 possibly?). It's saldy not just entertainment that's been infested, it seems to be Education and, to some extent some financial institutions over here in the UK now to which there is a very strong correlation between people suddenly having their accounts shut down for no apparent reason and those people having opinions they don't like. It's happened to over 1000000 people / business accounts in the last 4 years and is completely scandelous! I look forward to seeing your video on this - count me as duly subbed!
@@blower1 Fair point, and who wants to be part of the ride when that happens?! I think, like all shows, it has a certain amount of flex (Dr Who has probably more flex than most) but constantly bending something out of shape will cause it to snap and bleed. Dr Who is bleeding viewers at a rate of knots & from what I understand it's set to get a whole lot worse.
You know... in a way, it's a good thing that he's making this "Season 1," because it completely separates itself from the original. To me, we have Doctor Who (from Hartnell to Capaldi.. Jodie doesn't count), and RTD can have his garbage. It's not Doctor Who, it's just fan fiction. That makes it easier for me to be able to watch older stuff. Maybe one day someone will come along and retcon the Jodie era and make DW great again. I have a feeling this new "Who" will crash and burn.
Davros finally gets to kill off the Doctor... Russell T Davros. I hear the new daleks are going to be painted in rainbow colours and instead of shouting 'EXTERMINATE!' they are going to shout 'CHASE ME!'
That's why I photoshopped the SJW heads on the Cybermen and Davros int he thumbnail. The analogy is, in truth, quiet perfect imho.
I cant wait for GRETA THUNBERG to the The Doctor's next companion so RTD can go back through all of earth's history making up all kinds of other globalist agenda indoctrination garbage for kids
Look up the gay daleks
WHITE WEE WEE!! WHITE WEE WEE!!
More like "IN-DOC-TRIN-ATE!"
@@SaltyTravelingC Shush! RusTi may be looking in, so don't give them any ideas.
The doctor died with Capaldi.
Doctor Who has come out of the TARDIS and explores the Panderverse in 2024
"And I often think that the characters and the action are for the adults and the messaging is for the kids. Actually, it's that way round."
RTD
BBC/Disney are insane to assume that it's ok to indulge in the blatant indoctrination of minors. They are already paying for allowing RTDavros to pi's off every longtime fan with all this woke bilge and now they're disappearing up their own arguments by managing to pi's off the very audience they claim to champion.
THIS
Don't insult Davros by attaching his name to Davies's.
@@MaskedMan66 hard on intergalactic supervillains you feel? Perhaps, perhaps ....
Interesting that, in order to assess whether indoctrination is taking place, one has to assume a similarly indoctrinated counter-stance which is - as Hitchins would call it - taking comfort in the security of consensus. The problem with consensus is that, without further investigation, it becomes easier to dismiss holistic co-evolving solutions. Counter-noise breeds counter-noise, sometimes equal and opposite and at other times, when one side is stressed upon too much, the noise ramps up to another level. What you are seeing is ramped up noise and caused by whom? One side of an argument didn't quieten down to acceptance of the other's diversity but kept on - and is keeping on - in the dogmatic persistence that one side is "wrong", not merely diverse. For instance, let's quote from a Cyberman story
CYBERLEADER: I ordered surrender.
DOCTOR: They're not taking instructions.
Don't you understand? You're on every street,
you're in their homes, you've got their children!
Of course they're going to fight.
The Cybermen wouldn't leave well alone. They want everyone to be their own normative, their 'decent' and 'proper'. The human race is now in their face. They are diverse and the Cybermen don't like it!
@@josefschiltz2192 I miss Hitch.
RIP franchise. Now, on to making James Bond and Sherlock Holmes female, trans and gay. Hell, they've ruined everything else... 🤬👿
Humm I see Lenny Henry's Doctor from his 80s Dr Who comedy sketch meets The Muppets.
I can see the headlines "Black Baby going to be eaten by pale skinned Goblins". The media will wait until it's aired before kicking off over it even though it's been widely reported so far 😂
Fine by me. I'll just focus on the Hartnell to Capaldi era, along with the 8th Doctor novels and audios. I was born just after the 1989 cancellation, so I have plenty of Doctor Who to backtrack and revisit with the release of the boxsets. Plus, I am collecting all 73 eighth Doctor novels. Don't get angry, just send a message by sticking to your favourite. If this is Series one, then I guess everything prior to all of this is an inviolable canon.
You were born after 1989? Then you have all the best stuff to watch. You'll enjoy the backtrack.
@@hugodrax71 Cannot wait. The best era, for me, is ahead.
I was a Whovian since my childhood and I'm in my 50s now.
Thanks to Davies, no more.
I was a Whovian since my childhood and I'm in my 60s now.
Thanks to Davies, no more.
I am a Whovian in my 50s and a Yank. We had to mail away from anything Doctor Wbo in the 80s, we had to have a VCR ready to record episodes on PBS off air. My little brother still has some of the tapes.
I’m 53 and have been watching and collecting Doctor Who since I was five years old…starting with Tom Baker to end of 7th and reruns of 1-3. RTD has destroyed a 60 year franchise.
I just got Britbox to watch the old stuff. I’m completely done after even giving Jodie a chance. But I’m moving on! F U Davies….you’re a real POS.
@@SaltyTravelingClol I got into Dr Who at the age of 6 in the final season of the 5th Doctor in the UK. My mum used to do the same tape it for me then I watched before going to school. 😂 I loved the 6th Doctor and he's still one of my faves.
I'm still a Whovian, just entirely DVD based now.
I hate how companies are so desperate to replace their aging customers that they have opted to pander to a community that doesn't like to be pandered to. I hate what Doctor Who has become so I'm not watching it. I've stopped as of Jodie and I was actually rooting for a female doctor cause there was so much potential there but they ruined it so horribly by using the show as a vehicle to push "The Message" down everyone's throat. The new season hasn't even started and it's already getting lower viewer ratings than Jodie did! They can keep Doctor Who, Star Trek, and Star Wars cause they are all dead to me now.
_Star Wars_ lives; the twelve movies are fun roller coaster rides. The T.V. shows, I gather, have gotten ridiculous. But if we're talking the Saga of the Skywalkers and their accompanying casts of characters, it's all good.
I miss the days when they just made enjoyable programs.
That goes for most TV.
So I guess the bisexual Jack Harkness wasn't welcoming enough to the LGBTQ community because he was more than just his sexual preference.
Bill Potts, who reminded us in every other episode that she was lesbian wasn't good enough?
It was RTD who brought sexualisation into Dr Who. Before him the only times we saw anything even remotely sexual was the First Doctor accidentally getting engaged, Captain Yates flirting with Jo Grant (which was dropped very quickly) and the Queen of Atlantis going gaga over The Master.
After the reboot, we got unwanted love stories between the Doctor and his companions, Captain Jack If-it-moves-shag-it, paving slab girl and her "love life", elderly lesbians in a traffic jam, a widowed lesbian taken over by a demonic alien force, Alonzo the gay steward, Cassandra's mind in the Doctor's body getting used to having dangly bits and, among many other such things "She ain't a virgin queen no more, phwooooarrr, get what I'm saying?"
RTD sexualised a series that had been free of any such content, and now claims that it wasn't welcoming to LGBTQWTF people. You may as well say McDonalds isn't welcoming to them either because it doesn't use rainbow coloured buns.
The doctor wasn't sexually interested in anyone though, it was a romantic thing
@@Jiub_SN Whatever it was, it was unnecessary.
You have beautifully articulated a problem I had with the show when it came back. I will say that as for Classic Who couples, there were also Susan and David, Vicki and Troilus, Jo and Cliff, and Leela and Andred. And if Big Finish is to be taken as canon, Ian and Barbara got married.
And do you remember when the rainbow used to symbolize *everybody?*
@MaskedMan66 Oops, I forgot the exit romances.
Ian and Barbara were mentioned as a couple in The Sarah Jane Adventures, so it's definitely canon.
I'm old enough to remember when rainbows symbolised gormless bears, wet pink hippos and weird zip mouthed muppets.
I sort of get your point. There's nothing wrong with having the old women in Gridlock be a couple though, or the woman in Midnight be grieving a female partner. Although, admittedly, I don't know why it was relevant for us to be told in the former.
Oh, God, I've just remembered the cat babies.
Oh, I get the goblin song now. It is symbolic to show that RTD is eating his Doctor Who baby! How meta! IT'S DEAD!
It shows that Davies hates children and will do whatever he can to make this onetime children's show unsuitable for them. Of course, he got started on that when he introduced Jack Harkness.
Thank you for providing a voice to all of feelings that we fans have, STC! You help us all in what I now realize is a collective grieving process for our now dead show. We have gone through the stages of shock - then disbelief- then anger - and now acceptance. And I accept that this show , that I have loved since I was 4 when I watched in 1971, is gone. And watching your videos here today, about what an abomination it is now and the insult it is to the fans, I find that I’m now okay with it. Thank you!
You honor me. Thank you for appreciation. Cheers
It could certainly be argued that the "real" Doctor, now embodied in David Tennant, has retired (as implausible as that sounds), and the Ncuti Gatwa incarnation is basically a sloughed-off fingernail in a substitute TARDIS, heading out to spread "The Narrative."
I'm right there with you. It's a friend these bastards are killing.
@@MaskedMan66 It's not a narrative, it's naked propaganda.
As David Mamet once put it, this show's as dead as Julius Caesar.
Necromancy or necrophilia- you called it.
Season 1 is based on how many original fans watch it.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it does it matter whether you call it Doctor Who season 1 or not.
You've truly upped your game with these latest videos, mate. Excellent work!
To paraphrase another UA-camr: The show's not being made for me anymore -They're going after a different (and smaller) audience now
50× smaller......
@@PGHEngineer At least.
RTD can get lost. His era doesn’t matter it’s just cringe. Prepared to use the shows long history when it suits to desperatly get real fans to watch well good luck with that then!
It's a science fiction show not Love Island
The gay stuff, ho hum but it's the pushing of the Q&T that is in a lot of kids shows nowadays.
Drag Queen Story Hour in libraries, trans in Dr. Who(RIP), Netflix to name a few. The reason for the insistence of of the Q&T is not for inclusion but confusion.
These are kids shows. Please be aware.
And that's it exactly. All those new Gender clinics that have been built in the US cost a lot of money to construct and staff- they need customers. The pharmaceutical companies don't have muhcovid anymore and they need LIFE-LONG CUSTOMERS for their products. Impressionable kids represent a huge, very ripe market for that.
Next we'll be hearing the Daleks drone, "IN-DOC-TRIN-ATE!"
Depopulation agenda. So less babies being born.
So RTD makes Doctor Who a 'more welcoming place' for the queer community, but a less welcoming place for everyone else. Hmmm.... how's that gonna work out Russell...? LOL
About the same as STAR WARS, STAR TREK, THE WITCHER et al.
You know, an absolute collapse of audience followed by the showrunners and media calling that audience bigots and -phobes. In others, the same exact thing that Hollywood has been doing for almost ten years.
I've read things that say that older gays and lesbians hate the term "Queer". So it's just the under 30s he's aiming for.
@@SaltyTravelingC "Star Wars?" How do you figure? I know the T.V. shows have got woke, but who really pays attention to them?
@@Benjiesbeenbetter. Very narrow-minded chap, him.
@MaskedMan66 I've geberally found that the broader someone claims their mind is, the narrower it actually is.
I'm pretty sure the Season 1 status is just to create a jumping-on point for new fans. It's just not viable to expect someone to start watching a show at Season 15. No young person is going to go back all the way to 2005's "Rose" or 1963's "An Unearthly Child" when they're just browsing on Disney+.
Starting afresh, from a new Season 1, makes perfect sense to me. Any newcomers who care about the wider lore can do their own research and dig out the earlier seasons.
It's not the first time they did this. They did it in 2005, marking Eccleston's series as Season 1. It worked, a whole generation of kids leapt on board, with no prior knowledge of Doctor Who.
Well done RTD you joined the Disney woke brigade and shat on your viewers.
The Disney cash infusion is so entirely perfect, isn't it?
I had given up on The Doctor some time ago. Jodi simply parked a Caterpillar D9 on the grave. Everything past that is the rotting corpse making noise decomposing.
That imagery. Perfect, my friend.
I echo Salty - that analogy is perfect. Especially when you consider burying the franchise was a deliberate act
So RTD can now be known as Retcon The Doctor
RTD has lost his touch ever since Andrew Smith passed, he does not seem to be able to write a good story anymore. it is a really shame. Andrew Smith seemed to keep RTD in line, he could bounce ideas off of him.
Compare new RTD to old RTD Dr who series and you will know what i mean. Rewatch the REAL season one 2005 RTD Dr Who and compare them to new RTD Dr 💩
RTD will only be destroying his own legacy.
I am letting a video percolate on this very subject- 2005 vs now. And Billie Piper's statements with Eccleston's
The real Season 1 was in 1963.
@@MaskedMan66 I did say RTD Dr Who,
@@SaltyTravelingC that would be interesting indeed.
We need to give nuWho the Bud Light treatment. Nothing is wrong with being normal.
Whats the betting in the episode with the Beatles, they are a motown group 😂
Don't worry- I'm working on video for that one
Lets not oversee, Tennant is happily aiding him in this false crusade
Hot take, Moffat understood the doctor and his ethos so much more than RTD. I dislike how extreme rtd humanises the doctor.
You know things have come to a pretty pass when Moffatt seems the better producer.
Eccleston was season 1 aswell, we don't forget the previous 8 Doctors, don't worry about it.
Hartnell was Season 1.
"Good grief!" Charlie Brown
Maybe if they are going to resett, they can leave the crappy version to the woke fans and for the real fans that has been watching many years, they can find a better writer to continue the series how it was supposed to be. 2 series one a legend and the other series for the woke. Just can't understand why they will treat us long time fans like this, they are destroying something amazing 😢
yeah they can get Paul McGann back and have some storyline that the one who died on Karn was a clone created by the Time Lords for The Time War which is why he was able to become the war doctor, and gradually deteriorated into the 13th, 14th, 15th and Valeyard doctors. The real doctor avoided it and is somewhere far away in the billions of galaxies....getting involved in things.....
I'm a gay man and I think RTD and people like him are undoing years of progress LGB people have struggled to make in being accepted. We're not going to go around in black veils weeping at how unjust life is just because a kid's show doesn't have characters saying "Hey, I'm going to save your planet, but first, let me tell you my pronouns".
By the same-- you should pardon the expression-- token, how many straight characters have ever made a point of saying, "By the way, I'm heterosexual?"
@MaskedMan66 Exactly. Saying that the show wasn't welcoming to gay people is a load of - pardon the expression in this context - bollox.
Someone once said at a convention around 2000ish that the reason so many male Dr Who fans hated the movie was because in it, the Doctor did something they'd never do. Kiss a woman.
It's stupid for RTD and his cohorts say, "But there was never a gay character in the classic series". How do we know there hasn't? Are these people saying that because none of the characters conformed to the stereotypes that my generation hated and fought to dispel, then there were no gay characters?
Wokery is anti gay. It's anti lesbian, anti woman, anti white, anti free speech. And they want to indoctrinate our kids with this hateful bull through bilge like this.
It is, as you say, pushing back gay acceptance generally. It's very sad.
@@gilgameshofuruk4060 The Doctor being strictly non-sexual (apart from his life before leaving Gallifrey during which he obviously had a wife and a kid or kids, and of course his flirtation with Cameca) was part of why children liked him so much for 27 years.
I don't know how much Big Finish you've listened to, but there was a delightful Sixth Doctor and Mel story called "The One Doctor," in which they met a con man who went about the galaxy pretending to be the Doctor, accompanied by his "companion" Sally-Anne.
The Big Bad of the tale turned up near the end, and, long story short, the Doctor turned the tables on the con man, making the villain think the con man was the Doctor and that he, the Doctor, was the con man-- and to clinch it, he swept Sally-Anne into his arms and gave her a big kiss.
The villain was agog (to say nothing of Melanie) and said, "Yes, the Doctor would never do that!"
This is all part of thinking that modern audiences have to see themselves represented on screen. I remember being upset that Superman had dark hair whereas I was blonde, but I was 5 and quickly learned that it really didn't matter. It's the same for the Doctor, I like the way he travels time and space helping people, not that he's a straight white man, or that he has a blue box, and my car is also blue, so it's basically a Tardis.
I've heard that at least one of the people I work with is gay, but I don't know which. And until it comes up in conversation naturally, I don't care, because it doesn't matter. It should be the same for Doctor Who. Is the Doctor gay? Probably not, he's never shown any particularly romantic ties to other characters (until RTD), and at his extreme age, I tend to think he's moved beyond worrying about that kind of stuff.
That parody song was quick,...and catchy 😂🤣✌️🍻
Will Shooty keep his trousers on in the next episode.
So many jokes I want to make...
@@SaltyTravelingC Ruby Sundae: Is that your sonic screwdriver?
Doctor Whoke: No, that is my sonic di...oh I forgot to ask your pronouns.
For me everything after The Doctor Falls isn't canon and will forever be ignored.
It’s interesting that the Dr Who episode “Battlefield” garnered just 3.6M UK viewers way back when and the BBC decided to axe the show amidst poor ratings. And they did.
But today, the show falls to 3.6M and the BBC hails it as a mighty success! How very odd.
and the population of the UK has risen by 5 million between 1989 and 2023.
I know this is missing the point a bit, but I bloody love Battlefield, that's Doctor Who perfection to me.
I've been watching since 1966 when DW first started in Australia. Now, after seeing the 60th anniversary specials ... not so much. Especially as to watch it legally I'd have to pay Disney. That's not gonna happen. The show used to be about a very old time traveller having adventures with his friends fighting evil; with the occasional political or social comment here and there. Now I really don't know what it is.
RTD died with his husband, what ever remained is whats making "series 1"
There is a VAST DIFFERENCE between what RTD said in 2005 and what he is saying now about Doctor Who... then I look at what CHRISTOPHER ECCELSTON said recently ("Fire RTD and I'll come back"), and I wonder has RTD always been this imho absolutely unhinged but was merely able to hide it back then?
@@SaltyTravelingC probably just took it out on his husband
Nice to see the return of Jabba the Hut...
It's beginning to look a lot like Davies.
Is there anywhere online where one can watch from the 1st doctor all the way up to just before Eccleston? I started with Eccleston and stopped at whitaker because the writing was on the wall for me personally. Ive always wanted to look at the original seasons but could never find much.
and yeah. Im done with modern who fully at this point
Tubi the streaming service has a ton early Doctor Who for free. Not everything, but quite a bit
And in My Reality...Dr Who ENDED in 1989...
Conceptualizing that she may be infinitely divisible, the TARDIS is beside herself. But then, she's always known that, will know that, does know that! What was it that Australian girl used to say . . . will say . . . does say? Oh yes! . . . . Rabbits! Breeding like rabbits!
I find your videos a joy. And are such a “giggle” Some people say it’s just a show and yes at the end of the day it’s just a show. But for me the poisonous, filthy agenda that’s poisoning and indoctrinating kids is absolutely pure evil! Putting wicked perverted ideas into an innocent child’s mind is disgusting! The increase in kids confused about their gender is absolutely heartbreaking. And it’s filth like this that plants the ideology into their heads. That is my main issue. The secondary issue is that a beloved show of 50 years has been rewritten. Although for me while I acknowledge Capaldi. His storylines at times particularly S10 were awful. It’s easier for me to finish with The Day of The Doctor. Left questioning and wondering… in my own head the time lords give the Doctor more regenerations to be able to enjoy a sort of retirement on earth and the newly saved Galifrey. Having the odd adventure once in a blue moon. That’s why we see Capaldi’s doctor briefly and also Tom Baker who I see as the Doctor’s very final regeneration which he chooses to spend on earth! That’s how doctor who ends for me! And how that episode leaves it for the viewer as it were to fill in the blanks and mystery. Time of the Doctor and onwards just unfortunately starts a downward trend.
Thank you very. Agreed ⬆️
Merry Christmas
@@SaltyTravelingC Merry Christmas to you too. Have a good one 🎄 👍
Thumbnail is great!
Thank you- as ever a labor of love... and madness ha
The only worry is whether or not it is going to be any good and therein may lay the problem.
The show needs an other 12 15 year rest. Sad but true. Ps why does Rose Noble have a Nathan accent? Oh & why not fix the Tardis. I can keep going
Didn't that brillopad-headed full mofat try this, admittedly in a half-hearted way, by calling the first episode of series 10 the pilot
The abomination of desolation...Bible prophecy fulfilled.
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it - thanks for the appreciation. Merry Christmas
There is now the license To go full on stereotype and self parody as Russell adopts a pink or rainbow Chairman Mao tunic and throws a fit smashing up the BBC archives and burning physical existing copies of DW episodes on a massive bonfire; maybe that was his plan all along and putting the episodes on iPlayer was a cover story and a chance for viewers to say goodbye to authentic Doctor Who once and for all (it would allow the BBC to finish the cultural vandalism it first initiated when it started chucking out all the film cans of episodes after previously wiping the magnetic vt for episodes The B&W Minstrel Show And That's Life...) and
I heard that the new doctor was seen dancing at a gay club in a string vest and a kilt, please tell me it's not true
It’s true.
@@SaltyTravelingC Bi Bi Doctor
As far as Doctor Who goes, I will happily remember "The Power of the Doctor" as the last real Doctor Who episode. And I liked it too. Everything after that is just Davies making everything "happy".
More and more, I regard the movie as the last episode.
For me, it's the Capaldi regeneration. I couldnt get through his run, however. The scripts were just too trash... just is an absolute shame. He'd have made a fantastic doctor with competent writing.
I think the last real Doctor Who episode was a long, long time before Power of the Doctor!
@@SaltyTravelingC For me, Capaldi his season 2, since his season 3 was just agonising to watch, so overall Dr who Series 9, 10 onward was so bad, all the "messaging" started to get so painful when Bill pots was introduced, The show tanked from that point on for me.
Honestly, I cut it at "Twice Upon a Time". Whittaker era, despite the actress being more than competent enough, Chibnall's writing murdered the show.
Why change and reset a beloved prog like Dr Who and destroy it for the fans, why not feck off and make their own Gay Sci-fi sh*t.
EXACTLY. Why do it to STAR TREK? Why STAR WARS? Why the MCU? Why WHEEL OF TIME? Why (I predict) MIDDLE EARTH in Rings of Power season two?
The ANSWER I've arrived at after three years of a UA-cam channel is this: It is deliberate psychological warfare meant to demoralize and divide us even further by destroying our shared Western Culture icons and the archetypes of heroes and villians.
And stick it on BBC2 where nobody will see it. That's what it's for.
@SaltyTravelingC Probably. It's a bit like abortion - in the end it hurts only their own side.
Now, see, I don't have a problem with dark theming in children's programming, hell, I survived Return to Oz... I have a problem with this being a Christmas episode...
"This was already in the works, and you're a fool to think I wasn't going to get" my sticky, terrible, MESSAGE covered mitts in on the off chance that I could screw things up more and leave a 'lasting impression' before I can't find work in TV any longer because I'm a sexual monster.
_Return to Oz?_ It wasn't dark. The Nome King's spell had cast a pall over Oz, but that was the plot. Dorothy was there to bring back light and hope.
I am gay not Queer..that is a trendy wendy cult word.
I don't see a problem with it being series 1, I don't like it and/or see the point for it but I didn't see why it was series 1 in 2005 either and coped with that so that isn't an issue really. The Doctor being gay isn't necessarily an issue either as long as it isn't made a big thing of, it's his sexuality that's fine...like Jodie's Doctor almost had a lesbian relationship that is fine. My problem with the so called specials was that they weren't great, the run time is so short for a good story that if it gets bogged down by anything else it is lost and ends up rushed and feeling a bit crap. All three had extremely convenient endings that did not feel earned. If the quality of writing is this level then I can see the show becoming so mediocre that I will stop watching
RTD is missing a EAR.
Season 1 to season 50 doesn't matter. I haven't watch the show ever since that old dude and his nurse forgot his name.
Yep! The Alex Jones Song just about sums up this Shite!
Let's not overlook the fact this is broadcasting on a day a religious baby was born and offer another baby to be eaten, it's a repeated fantasy trope yes, but this is science fiction, not romance, not lord of the rings and certainly far from family friendly if this continues. I am in two minds whether to sit through it. I love Ncuti he's a decent person & I expect this is scaring the s**t out of him.
1:47 😂👍
Cheers
So many great resets these days…. 🤔
Wow, bring 2005 Russel back, don't really like this knock-off version of him that the BBC made
I hope that this show gets cancelled. They're just spewing too much woke garbage.
Man wearing baseball cap backwards says nothing new. Isn’t happy.
Who was wearing a baseball cap?
@@SaltyTravelingCbad lighting. Nice beanie.
Hope your predictions don’t come to pass. Worried they will. I’m stupid enough to try again on Xmas Day. Gatwa deserves his chance.
There isn’t anything new to gather about it yet. Xmas Day… another matter.
Are you related to the Salty Trekker?
Doctor Whogivesafuq
This show is so bad now it's just laughed at lol 🤣🤣🤣
How is a time-traveling, centuries-old, half-human alien able to change his appearance NOT diverse????
Don't worry- they'll make sure the new 'Doctor' gets to be called names and made a victim in season one. Regardless of being an alien from Gallifrey and essentially quasi-immortal with vast experince on a galactic scale and the whole universe out there... no, RTD wants to go to the slave markets of the Caribbean in the 1700s, but would never go to Africa to show the African tribes raiding, trapping and selling fellow Africans for slaves because of the difference in tribes (ethnicity)
@@randombsgo4367 The 8th Doctor was said to be half human on the show.
@@rmnffx The movie was a lot of fun, and certainly superior to just about anything since 2005.
@@bwtv147 No, the Doctor said he was half human; which number he was wearing didn't matter.
@@randombsgo4367 Donna is 100% human; that's why she couldn't handle the knowledge of a Gallifreyan brain.
Very lame. You spent this whole video complaining about characters because they aren't white or straight, and that RTD is resetting the show back to Series 1 ( like he did before in 2005, following a very unpopular era, as an attempt to refresh the show which was very successful before). Didn't exactly discuss the plot, or performances at all. I can see it now, 2024 will be a bunch of nerds pointing out every character who isn't white/straight and complaining about them every episode rather than discussing plots/themes, on a weekly basis. You won't even watch the episodes yourselves, so you feel like you're not contributing to the viewership, but will instead hear about it from the same UA-cam channels echochambers where you will get routinely outraged every week rather than forming any opinions of your own. Very on brand for sci-fi fans.
Yet all the little middle aged men children still watch it😂😂
So many of these awful videos are springing up with man-babies like the presenter in this one winging about how the show has changed and they can't cope with it. My advice to all those here moaning about inclusion, LGBTQ+, is go and find another show to watch and don't bother coming back, because Doctor Who doesn't need fans like you. In fact, it never did. I'm ashamed to think that there are fans of Doctor Who that are so utterly hideous and full of prejudice and who clearly never took enough notice of what they were watching in the classic series, because if they had, they wouldn't have enjoyed that either. I have noticed its mostly fans in the USA that are upset with RTD; but then, considering what a toxic place its been since Trumper wobbled over the horizon, it comes as little surprise.
do you need a wah-ambulance?
Doctor Who ended when Matt Smith regenerated. I just consider it like a Quantum Leap ending......Sam Becket was never seen again and neither was the Doctor.
That's my Who ending as well.
@GimmeEd 😂