The battles of Haruun Kal, Umbara, and Drongar are also fine examples of droids not being utilized all that much by the CIS due to the environment. Haruun Kal and Drongar’s atmospheres were corrosive to droids so they relied on local militias and mercenaries. In Umbara although droid forces were present during the battle, the dense dark jungles made mass-deployment nearly impossible hence why the Umbaran Militia was the main fighting force of the CIS on the planet.
Lol i was gonna name the same worlds. Drongar was a blood bath and Haruun Kal was a straight up massacre and Umbara was a chaotic mess. While I love Drongar, Haruun Kal was a tragic victory for the Republic.
@@luisescalante2063 The war was designed for the nerfed CIS to lose from the start. I recommend the New Sith Wars, the Great War, and Imperial Civil War.
Its was pretty disappointing we couldn't see more conflict that wasn't just droids vs clones. Umbara was my favorite part of the Clone Wars because it felt like a real war with real people defending their planet, instead of just a mock war between two artificial enemies.
@@dmann5938that was the natives defending there home but the ones in the video got deployed to other planets (i love the the umbarans i wish we seen them during the empires regin)
I think they liked using droids because if they did something like this the killing of the enemy wouldn't be funny with jokes and quips used instead it would become quite dark and brutal
2:25 A funny little theory on General Grevious being on Moorja for that battle: Could The Republic have had a better chance at defeating Grevious there, than almost anywhere else in the galaxy? Let me explain... Moorja is a planet that has an environment hostile to electrical technology, including computers. But, here's the thing. General Grevious (Due to his cybernetic body) was INCREDIBLY dependent on computers to be as much of a threat to any Jedi as he was (Being able to analyze your enemy's fighting technique in a matter of seconds, and then replicating his/her style, while also exploiting any weaknesses to be found in his enemy's technique). In fact, beyond just giving him an advantage in battle with Jedi; due to just how much of his formerly organic Kaleesh body was replaced with cybernetic technology, it may be possible to argue that Grevious (Much like Darth Vader after him) actually NEEDED his cybernetics, and computers to remain operational at all times, just to stay alive! But, with the super-ionized atmosphere of Moorja making all electronic/computer-based technology completely inoperable/useless on-world, Grevious might as well be commiting suicide by being on this world to lead a battle campaign against invading Republic forces. If he doesn't immediately die, due to his cyborg body being unable to sustain what little life he still had in him on this prohibitively hostile world, he would be in a massive disadvantage against any Jedi, or Clone, or even regular soldier that he had to fight in this battle. Obiviously, none of this came to pass in the actual battle, but could it have happened? Does this theory seem resonable?
The only time I recall CIS soldiers appearing in canon is in Season 4 of the clone wars when some more Karkaradons are are sent to Mon Cala to assist Riff Tamson. Do CIS soldiers show up anywhere else in canon? I don’t count Umbarans because they were only fighting on their home planet.
@@arthurbrax6561 Its the same scenario as with the Umbarans though - they are just defending their homeworld. I'm on about CIS soldiers that were deployed off world...
If you think about it there's literally a endless amount of movies that can be made from planetarly defense forces think about it billions of plantets some are wasteland some paradise and there's a force there to fight or kill or whatever and bam endless movies about them
I would love to play a battlefront game from the perspective of cis organic soldier. It would be titled Star Wars Battlefront: Heroes of the Confederacy
I would to see a list of all the rest of the organic forces who fought on the side of the CIS. The Mandalorian Protectors, Nimbus Commandos, and Skakoan Commandos are three examples of them.
The Clone Wars pushed entire planetary defense forces to their limits in both manpower and resources, and while the spotlight was with the both Clones and Droids Armies we cannot forget that billions citizens did die for both of their causes and without them the Clone Wars would have been a very different conflict than what it is portrayed as.
It's story elements and characters like these that could only be thought up and portrayed in the Extended Universe timeline of Star Wars stories. ...not like that trash CGI TCW show~ 🙄🤣
In such battlefield environments it all depended on whom made up the CIS non clone forces like with any culture an force. An WHOM those sector troops was going up against. Some GAR forces was basically capable of crushing just about anyone, anywhere similar to some CIS leaders an weapons were unstoppable for a time no matter what they came up against
I just realized in the Clone Wars CG show almost completely ignored the non droid armies of the CIS. I think the only episodes that show the organic armies of the CIS are the Umbaran arc and the second invasion of Geonosis.
The IGBC's Iotran Guard were another organic force. We don't find out a lot about them, but it seems the Iotran species paid their debts to the IGBC by providing muscle for the collections division, much as the Kaleesh did with Grievous.
They’re not mentioned as much but if given the light of day and with their lore at hand, the Iotran could have been a threat during the Muunilist conflicts.
After doing math, I think venitor is better then aclomater Let me exsplan, 2 venitors cost and have equal turbolazers to 1 aclomater, One venitor has more sorage for fighters or vehicles. Aclomater has no lighter Canons so they have to use over kill for small craft and leave them even more vanrable to fighters. Yes its faster and has more armor But with the 2v1 venitors can be posistioned better and the far more fighters can be of massive suport Adionaly the open tall brides alow comanders plenty of space to plan and coman along with good vision well having enough fighter to defend these and go on the offense... Yes venitor needs more crew and them as individual ships dont last as long But can be replaced faster and crews can be recruited from civilizations but the republic did not, For the first few months the clone crews would suffer but after civilizations can be trained said clones could be converted to troops or another suport element.. Plus the numbers and size if the venitor and more fighters can be a fear factor
The art that the clone wars became is trash! The beginning was okay! Not great by no means but definitely WAY better than the end! Ugh I hate Kathleen Kennedy Disney Star Wars! How does she still have a job!? You'd think after *Rise of Skywoker" she'd be done then "Solo" flopped miserably she should have definitely been fired then! But no she's like a Cat! Nine Lives and everything! It's astonishing
"Neimodians are all cowards!"
Gunnery Battalion: "And we took that personally. "
@AmericaChavez710 True. Desperation breeds tenacity
The battles of Haruun Kal, Umbara, and Drongar are also fine examples of droids not being utilized all that much by the CIS due to the environment. Haruun Kal and Drongar’s atmospheres were corrosive to droids so they relied on local militias and mercenaries. In Umbara although droid forces were present during the battle, the dense dark jungles made mass-deployment nearly impossible hence why the Umbaran Militia was the main fighting force of the CIS on the planet.
Wish we saw that just a bit more in Clone Wars, both 2008 and 2003 series.
Lol i was gonna name the same worlds. Drongar was a blood bath and Haruun Kal was a straight up massacre and Umbara was a chaotic mess. While I love Drongar, Haruun Kal was a tragic victory for the Republic.
Clone Wars Era militias don't get the attention they deserve. What a shame.
The clone wars is the best era in my humble opinion
In the Republic side, the PDFs actually did most of the fighting. At least in legends.
@@luisescalante2063---Perhaps. Thanks for replying.
@@90skidcultist---How interesting. Thanks for replying.
@@luisescalante2063 The war was designed for the nerfed CIS to lose from the start. I recommend the New Sith Wars, the Great War, and Imperial Civil War.
Its was pretty disappointing we couldn't see more conflict that wasn't just droids vs clones. Umbara was my favorite part of the Clone Wars because it felt like a real war with real people defending their planet, instead of just a mock war between two artificial enemies.
I wish we seen these guys in clone wars
Cough cough Umbarans
@@dmann5938that was the natives defending there home but the ones in the video got deployed to other planets (i love the the umbarans i wish we seen them during the empires regin)
Agreed
I think they liked using droids because if they did something like this the killing of the enemy wouldn't be funny with jokes and quips used instead it would become quite dark and brutal
These militants really do deserve the spotlight
clankas: "kill the meatbags!"
Seppie organics: far better than clankas
Would love to see the Morgukai clone army mentioned. Disney kicked themselves by ignoring this CIS force that could have been.
More like Disney hates robots, man.
2:25 A funny little theory on General Grevious being on Moorja for that battle: Could The Republic have had a better chance at defeating Grevious there, than almost anywhere else in the galaxy? Let me explain...
Moorja is a planet that has an environment hostile to electrical technology, including computers. But, here's the thing. General Grevious (Due to his cybernetic body) was INCREDIBLY dependent on computers to be as much of a threat to any Jedi as he was (Being able to analyze your enemy's fighting technique in a matter of seconds, and then replicating his/her style, while also exploiting any weaknesses to be found in his enemy's technique). In fact, beyond just giving him an advantage in battle with Jedi; due to just how much of his formerly organic Kaleesh body was replaced with cybernetic technology, it may be possible to argue that Grevious (Much like Darth Vader after him) actually NEEDED his cybernetics, and computers to remain operational at all times, just to stay alive! But, with the super-ionized atmosphere of Moorja making all electronic/computer-based technology completely inoperable/useless on-world, Grevious might as well be commiting suicide by being on this world to lead a battle campaign against invading Republic forces. If he doesn't immediately die, due to his cyborg body being unable to sustain what little life he still had in him on this prohibitively hostile world, he would be in a massive disadvantage against any Jedi, or Clone, or even regular soldier that he had to fight in this battle.
Obiviously, none of this came to pass in the actual battle, but could it have happened? Does this theory seem resonable?
You forgot the trando mercs, now I gotta play republic commando and slaughter some
The only time I recall CIS soldiers appearing in canon is in Season 4 of the clone wars when some more Karkaradons are are sent to Mon Cala to assist Riff Tamson. Do CIS soldiers show up anywhere else in canon? I don’t count Umbarans because they were only fighting on their home planet.
Second invasion of Geonosis had droids and Geonosians fighting together against the Clone Army,
@@arthurbrax6561 Its the same scenario as with the Umbarans though - they are just defending their homeworld. I'm on about CIS soldiers that were deployed off world...
After I watch Clone war, revenge siths, read some comic, really start love CIS, I hope they make show about CIS
Honestly the organic CIS militias are some of most awesome aspects of the CIS as a whole and it is a shame they aren't shown more.
It would be interesting to see an animated video of two factions using the Clone Wars to settle old grudges
does commander faie ever show up in comic wearing his hooded clone enginer helmet in comics
The umbarans were some scary mofos
If you think about it there's literally a endless amount of movies that can be made from planetarly defense forces think about it billions of plantets some are wasteland some paradise and there's a force there to fight or kill or whatever and bam endless movies about them
Nice episode, good work.
I call Dassyne ‘Commander Twitchy’
“As fearless as nemoidians” got doesn’t say much
what about geonosians...Fusia....
Everytime I hear your intro I gotta play BF1 lol
O right greedo's planet
So that's why on bf1 ps2 it said the army clones faced was replaced by battle droids? Or something like that
Happy fourth
I would love to play a battlefront game from the perspective of cis organic soldier. It would be titled Star Wars Battlefront: Heroes of the Confederacy
Those first 3 frames of the video tho
👍
could you make a video where you analyse those organic cis armies
Polish Ku...wa Soliders
Of course the Gunnery Nemoidians were the coolest, they dress like conquistadors for gods sake.
I would to see a list of all the rest of the organic forces who fought on the side of the CIS. The Mandalorian Protectors, Nimbus Commandos, and Skakoan Commandos are three examples of them.
Yet another reason for why there should be a Separatist POV show
I agreed to this and supported such an idea.
star wars he droid wars
I don’t want Disney to keep milking Star Wars because I’m scared it’s gonna get worse for the canon.
Hell yeah.
“All my wives died, but has anyone talked about the droid attack on the Wookiees?”
The Clone Wars pushed entire planetary defense forces to their limits in both manpower and resources, and while the spotlight was with the both Clones and Droids Armies we cannot forget that billions citizens did die for both of their causes and without them the Clone Wars would have been a very different conflict than what it is portrayed as.
There was also the Nimbus Commandos that fought for Separatists on Jabiim.
It's story elements and characters like these that could only be thought up and portrayed in the Extended Universe timeline of Star Wars stories.
...not like that trash CGI TCW show~ 🙄🤣
Considered how Shu Mai treated everyone, I felt sorry for her death commandos.
I love these videos
Please do a video on cis navy structure and ranks
2:07 dang, I didn't know Markiplier fought in the Clone Wars
In such battlefield environments it all depended on whom made up the CIS non clone forces like with any culture an force. An WHOM those sector troops was going up against. Some GAR forces was basically capable of crushing just about anyone, anywhere similar to some CIS leaders an weapons were unstoppable for a time no matter what they came up against
Nimbus Commandos from Jabiim were deadly too.
EckhartsLadder: Star Wars Halo & More.... It fits but I was not expecting Paw Patrol
Some of them probably aren’t worth remembering.
I just realized in the Clone Wars CG show almost completely ignored the non droid armies of the CIS.
I think the only episodes that show the organic armies of the CIS are the Umbaran arc and the second invasion of Geonosis.
The IGBC's Iotran Guard were another organic force. We don't find out a lot about them, but it seems the Iotran species paid their debts to the IGBC by providing muscle for the collections division, much as the Kaleesh did with Grievous.
They’re not mentioned as much but if given the light of day and with their lore at hand, the Iotran could have been a threat during the Muunilist conflicts.
Very cool topic
After doing math,
I think venitor is better then aclomater
Let me exsplan, 2 venitors cost and have equal turbolazers to 1 aclomater,
One venitor has more sorage for fighters or vehicles.
Aclomater has no lighter Canons so they have to use over kill for small craft and leave them even more vanrable to fighters. Yes its faster and has more armor
But with the 2v1 venitors can be posistioned better and the far more fighters can be of massive suport
Adionaly the open tall brides alow comanders plenty of space to plan and coman along with good vision well having enough fighter to defend these and go on the offense...
Yes venitor needs more crew and them as individual ships dont last as long
But can be replaced faster and crews can be recruited from civilizations but the republic did not,
For the first few months the clone crews would suffer but after civilizations can be trained said clones could be converted to troops or another suport element..
Plus the numbers and size if the venitor and more fighters can be a fear factor
Venator
Acclamator
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@@chipchilinkachip910 i wrote this in 2 minutes what do you exspect
your spelling is on drugs😂
Did grevious like these troops better than the droids?
More like trillions of droids.
I figured Haruun Kal was a world droids couldn't afford to go.
The Senate could be deployed ANYWHERE.
This is Canon for me! Also happy Independence Day!
Is canon for everyone
Planetary Security Forces Who are you guys?
Neimodian Gunnery Battalion, Koorivar Fusiliers, and Gossam Commandos: We're like you, but much better.
The gunnery battalion.
The seperatists had plenty of 💰 I'd assume they'd just hire mercenaries as needed
"I WONDER HOW MANY THEY'LL SEND"
Can you make a video about star wars pirates
The art that the clone wars became is trash! The beginning was okay! Not great by no means but definitely WAY better than the end! Ugh I hate Kathleen Kennedy Disney Star Wars! How does she still have a job!? You'd think after *Rise of Skywoker" she'd be done then "Solo" flopped miserably she should have definitely been fired then! But no she's like a Cat! Nine Lives and everything! It's astonishing
This is a certified Grievous moment.