All Soothsayer Fortunes Explained (Red Dead Redemption 2)
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- Опубліковано 23 жов 2024
- Explaining every fortune Soothsayer tells John and Arthur in Red Dead Redemption 2.
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I played this game so much but I didn't even know that she was in the game
Edit. Finally after nearly 1500h I met her as Arthur. But I spooked her when I was hunting for feathers so I don't think I will meet her again.
I’ve seen her a few times but never really paid attention
Me too I am very confused.
Same lmao
So did i
Me too, and i've spent a lot of time in the swamps tryin' to trigger nite folk encounters.
"The ones you hate grow fat on their greed" might actually be a reference to how Dutch despises the people of Saint Denis, Blackwater and people like Cornwall and views stealing their wealth as his way of punishing them. To him criminals and outlaws are 2 different things. To him outlaws are people who live free of a twisted rotten system and fight for the little man. Despite this however his view is not popular and the rich will continue to grow and expand until it catches up to the west.
I also thought this. But that fortune is only told to John in the epilogue. Maybe it's calling back to Dutch's contempt for the elite? Definitely think the "whatever the cost" is delivered so ominously that it is likely talking about John's demise.
That Dutch's romantic view of outlaws was bullshit. They robbed, cheated and killed everybody, no class distinction. He tried to justify the fact that they were dicks.
Red Dead Redemption 2 - Happy Arthur
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@@johnny2920 She's mean micah
"I tried... In the end... I did." - that line is so good, so touching.
Absolutely Heartbreaker line especially Arthur morgan says last words 💔
Ya this game was a god damn masterpiece!
@@tatters6623 Best of The Bests I Think We Never Get Like This Game Again If Rockstar Create Now Gta 6 I Think Will Be Masterpiece
No matter what I always here "I'm dead"
The circle fortune could also be about the revenge.
John revenges Arthur and kills Michah - this leads to Ross tracking John down and killing him eventually - which leads to Jack becoming an Outlaw and revenge John through killing Ross.
Yes I figured the same. Or the circle of violence. It goes on and on.
I'd have to agree wit this I'm pretty sure they are talking about the circle of revenge and that Jack just continued where micah started it and he became just like his father at the end a outlaw it's a sad story rdr
"Vengeance is a fool's game"
Arthur Morgan
I agree with this one too, cause they mention a lot since the start about revenge, Arthur really thinks that's not a good path, Charles even mention it to John in their way to find Micah, Arthur never wanted revenge, and is sad that Dutchs obssession with killing Colm, Cornwall, and Bronte lead him to destroy the gang, and John seeking for revenge lead him to be found by Ross, and now Jack made the same decision, a circle of violence.
Yeah, Arthur's last words to John are explicit instructions to break the circle and not come back to any aspect of the gang life, even to avenge him. But, John's own code of honour compels him to return to the gunslinger life to avenge the friend/older brother who died to give him his current life. Micah's crime spree attracts the Pinkertons and no doubt they find out that Dutch was at Mount Hagen with the stolen Blackwater money. Sadie and Charles leave the country with their share, but John remains and presumably pays off a bunch of large loans in one go with the money. That, in the end, seals his fate and completes his circle.
I always took the "we killed him and replaced him with nothing" line to be about God. The Soothsayer has that one line about gods dying, and also references the age of man ending to be replaced with machines and the destruction of the natural world.
The Soothsayer is, in spiritual prose, highlighting how industrialism and capitalism destroys not just the environment, but the ability of people to live the kind of free and open lives that folks like Arthur want.
Additionally, you have that bit in the epilogue where John meets Evelyn Miller, who gives a monologue about how the Earth itself is God. By choosing the destruction of the natural world over the preservation of it, in the pursuit of money and things ("we are in the age of things") then we have all chosen to kill God and replace him with nothing, just like those barren landscapes that used to be woods, and are now just empty skyline and railroads.
This is a wonderfully insightful comment, thank you for sharing!
And Sister Calderon talks about faith and God too.
She says something like 'to me people are God and God are people'
Agree. The lady was talking about GOD, fall of humanity, Greed, Materialism, End of the time etc. Too bad strangeman interpreted it from RDR2's story perspective which has nothing to do with it. It all about us and our society.
@@m.n.s.s2825 Yeah, I like his videos for the most part but I think he's mostly wrong on this one, I don't think most of what the Soothsayer says is supposed to pertain to the story of the game at all.
@@user-if4nx2jn8r Thats why it felt too weak and unconvincing everything Strangeman interpreted but in his defense I would like to say. HE had no choice. He cant simply talk about God, Evils and Humanity when he is supposed to be RDR 2 youtuber. He tried to stick to the content and make sense out of it which is welcome. Personally I believe the blind old man fortunes were about the " IN GAME" story and Old woman fortunes about " OURS".. That's where both make perfect sense
I’ve put a lot of time into this game but never saw her. I was afraid of the swamps at night tho.
I'm in the Swamps a lot, especially at night. I'm shocked I did not know of her.
Same honestly, the night folk are reason enough to just full gallop through the swamps
@@joewatson9519 I just like to play during the day ingame and also it feels good to give Arthur a good sleep schedule lol. So I do miss a lot of night content
Who let the simpleton out of the assylum?
@@joewatson9519 You forgot about the ghost who hanged herself. Out of the blue she'll be like "come back to me" haha. Never equipped my shotgun so fast when I heard that for the first time xD
I never got any of the Soothsayer encounters during my playthrough that I recall. Pretty interesting fortunes.
12:49 The Strange Man making sure none of the Micah family is left.
And never will have any family😂😂😂 12:58
I like that there could be a second interpretation to the "she'll return to you" fortune. If you interpret it as Abigail returning to John after she leaves in the RDR2 epilogue, it could mean that when the time comes for John to be destroyed (murdered) Abigail will also be destroyed with grief as a result. Also since Abilgail's death is never explained it's possible she died from suicide or heartbreak. Dunno just another cool way to look at it
She died of TB. It’s stated in one of the last newspapers in Rdr1.
@@apollo180 Ha, ironic
@@apollo180 omfg theres no fucking way😭😭
@@apollo180 Really? I can't find anything online about her death or a newspaper talking about it. If you have a link or something pls send it that'd be an amazing find!
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It’s believed it was TB. On the newspaper it’s mentioned as such.
I’ve played this game close to 1,000 hours multiple play throughs and never saw her. I did stay away from the creepy swamps though lol getting kicked off my horse because of gators didn’t make me wanna be there anymore then the overall creepiness of the area.
most people never met her even me because what kind of crazy person goes to the swamps at night
@@CaptHC I do, especially at night to meet my friends
@@CaptHC Time for my Arthur to be that guy, also I never met her lol
This is why don't just stick to the roads in rockstar games
This man is the definition of quality over quantity
No annoying narration needed
he has both
That's actually a rare case of both
She’s a rare find, found her once and never again
i almost earned the platinum in ps4 , later played in pc (2 times) ... never see her til now :/
Same
@@vas7541 i never saw the guy that loves the sun
I have over 2000 hours in this game and have 100% completed the game, and I never knew this lady existed.
same
Same here, never knew she existed before this video.
I tend to avoid the swamp at night, unless there's a mission that requires it. I would just camp through the night otherwise. I guess that shows the level of immersion
Who let the simpleton out of the assylum?
@@SportyRider Did you manage to help the cajun get his house back from the nightfolk?
The "she will leave and then come back" is probably a reference to Abigail leaving John but then coming back. As that allows Ross to take her and Jack inferring that if she hadn't come back they wouldn't have been kidnapped and she probably would have lived longer.
Or Mary and Arthur
@@alphahuner1116 well Mary doesn’t die and the prophecy stated that it would be the doom of both of them. So it’s Abigail and John with her dying just a few years after John.
@@shinrugal but the prophecy doesn’t say “die”, it says “destroy”.
It destroys them both inside knowing there’s no way they can live a life together.
@@shinrugal I only bring up Arthur and Mary because their relationship was bound to fail. One would give up on the other (in this case, Mary giving up on Arthur). With Mary essentially dumping Arthur, it hurt them both.
I do see your point tho.
I’ve always felt as though the fortune about the circle at 10:11 is actually about the fact that the Red Dead Redemption stories never end because even when the character dies, you just move on to the next. When Arthur dies you become John, when John dies you become Jack… and if we get a third game, we’ll probably die again and play as someone else. It never ends.
I love how Jack kills Ross while he is fishing so he gets revenge for Ross interrupting his fishing trip with Arthur
*Jack walks away*
*Epic title card*
*Jack goes back, loots the body*
HES HUNTING DUCK
I replayed rdr1 and then when he kills him like that ,I thought back to the rdr2 incident.
Playin' the long game
When she said “We killed and replaced him with absolutely nothing” Reminds me of when Dutch said
“When I’m gone, they’ll just find another monster”
Honestly, this one is one of my favorite videos of yours. The part from 9:12 to 10:10, this is not just a mystery explained, this is true cinema, the editing and sound design is absolutely fantastic and through the music it offers another perspective on Arthurs death. This scene is much more fateful and feels much more hopeless the way you edited it. I love it.
I know this has nothing to do with this video, just an interesting Red Dead fact. The rope Charles uses for the grappling hook to break into Fort Wallace in The King's Son(Chapter 6) can be found on a chair at Clemens Point during A Strange Kindness(Chapter 2, final mission)
"Life began in churches, it end in churches" I think that is most like a reference to John's story and death. He lived by the gun and died by the the gun
I thought it might also refer to a baptism (the beginning) and a funeral (the end), both of which most often occur in Churches, especially back in that time period. But I also think that might be way too simple, and it’s actually something much deeper.
Like a lot else in the game, it can probably mean different things to different people, which is another reason this game is so amazing!
"And the circle goes on" could actually be a reference to Redemption being an ongoing series and it doesn't end until Rockstar wants to start a new version of Red Dead. We could get a third redemption game which goes back even further to the golden years of the wild west or we could get something like Red Dead Revenge which is separate from the Van Der Linde gang.
I hope we get RDR3 and can play as Dutch in his prime when the gang started. How Arthur and John met him. How Miss Grimshaw came up.
OK, playing Dutch would break the rule, that the hero have to die in the end. Than we need a (now) dead gang member, Dutchs mentor or someone else, who guides Dutch through the very first years as outlaw and head of the VdL Gang. Someone like a younger Hosea. He can die after 70% and we get Dutch till the Blackwater Incident.
@@hellfish666 Dutch wouldn't make a good protagonist because we know how he turns out. Hosea would make a much better protagonist.
Heres something we can agree on. Arthur should be the epilogue protagonist.
I would want a small undead nightmare game
@@StuartLugsden Yepp. Thats fit better...
I’ve never come across this fortune teller in three play throughs. Look like I’ll be going for a fourth.
This game is just so cinematic, watching these videos getting pieced together gives me goose bumps. Gotta love a well told story 🥲
The ones that grow fat on their greed may also be refrencing Strauss because he sends arthur to go collect the debts and the cost is arthur getting tb.
I've been literally waiting for this video for so long. I was always like: When is strange man ever gonna explain all of her fortunes?
"Even the Gods die an ignoble death" is a reference to all the antagonists: Milton, O'Driscoll, Bronte, Cornwall, Gray, Micah, Braithwaite, and (eventually) Ross.
I’ve had 100% of the game completed, I’ve looked for every Easter egg I saw, and every point of interest, and yet there is always something new that I missed. I had no f***ing idea that this lady even exists, this game is an absolute masterpiece!!
I've played this game constantly since it released, and I didn't even know about the Soothsayer at all until this video.
Is it sad that I have 1000 hours in this game and I didn't even know she existed?
The one about the "Stranger" is actually a refrence to Nietzche's thesis about man killing God. If Mankind has killed God, divine right, and our societies were built on that foundation, then the void would cause turmoil within the system if nothing replaces it.
I think there's a bunch of Nietzsche in this. She eludes to Zarathustra coming down from the mountain and finding humanity listless and dangerous because they have not come to terms with the death of God.
I still love how strange man puts a bass sound effect every time he hits micah’s “B O T T O M”
I have like 800 hours and watched hundreds of RDR2 videos and I have never even heard of this person in my life
Next do one on the six skeletons in prison garb, who are chained together, in Roanoke Ridge (and the seventh corpse with severed feet somewhat removed from them). I've be burning to learn more of what is their backstory for ages (a runaway chaing gang that much seems clear, but how did they end up dead, how did one guy cut of his feet to escape the shackles etc.).
I think “and the circle goes on… and on… and on…” is actually a reference to how Arthur, John and Jack are all outlaws and all of them suffer for it in some way (Arthur’s death, John’s death, Jack losing his family & being seemingly depressed when you play as him). It’s like a continuous loop.
All of them technically had the opportunity to leave the outlaw life but they chose not to, hence “would we want to end it if we could?”
"But it weren't us who changed", is the best line in that game, along with "John made it."
10:12 I think this is more about the gang robbing and being on the run and never ending it by never actually getting to tahiti instead of about the player.
Virgin Soothsayer
Wants you to pay 2$.
Her fortunes are very hard to explain what they mean.
Encourages Arthur to betray the gang.
Screams for no reason.
chad cassidy
Wants you to pay 1$.
His fortunes are very easy to understand.
Encourages Arthur to become better person.
talks in very calm voice.
Dude, I got +1600 hours of game, singleplayer only, and I have never seen this woman in the game. RDR2's world is simply outstanding
2:17
To me, at least, she didn't allude to Dutch but rather Mr. Leviticus Cornwall and maybe also Mr. Angelo Bronte. Because of his tycoons and rich assets, it basically makes him in his mind and a few others, A God. And near the end, They both die an ignoble death, by Dutch's Hands
For the next video, could you give us a history on some of the gangs? I’d be curious to know about the background of people like the Del Lobos and Skinner Brothers
The thing that surprises me, and saddens me, is that Strange Man only has 350k subs...!!!
You deserve so much more. The content is always on-point, well edited, well researched.
Keep up the amazing work, Strange Man - you're the only one I watch for incredible Red Dead Redemption content! :-)
“they will betray you in the end…surely they shall. Betray them first” just imagine you have a friend or cousin that wanted to betrayed you, but no you betray them first
10:10 I always though that one referenced the seemingly never ending cycle of the gang moving from place to place, finding more trouble and moving again, until finally coming to a dead end. And the part on 11:09 representing the players who stopped following the story in chapter two to never having Arthur being infected and none of the characters dying, thus being them "living forever".
If you delay the Thomas Downes mission too much, the game will literally send you to his home and force the mission to start. The only way to forestall this, I think, is to not have the initial conversation with Strauss where he assigns Arthur to go shake down the debtors.
I think I've only run into this lady once, if at all, and I spent hours in the swamp at night in chapter 4. Meanwhile I've run into Blind Man Cassidy probably 30 times.
This game is truly a masterpiece that services the first so well. It’s kind of funny how loved Marston was, that we played as Jack afterwards and players were mad he died. Then we have to play as such a well written character as Arthur then he goes on then we have control of Marston again. The story is truly one of the best. It’s as much as Dutch’s story, Arthur and John’s as it is Jack’s. There’s still so much story left; what formed the Van Der Linde gang up to Blackwater, Jack possibly going on to WW1 and what he could do after returning, what Sadie and Charles lives could be. I’m always down for more from R* with Red Dead.
This is one of the best videos I've ever watched!
I always interpreted the "This is now the time of machines, the time of things" to be interpreted at face value. From Marko Dragic's "machine"/robot, to the machines that Malcolm MacIntosh and Evelyn Miller warn about and the destruction that they will reap upon the land (railways, factories, automobiles, aircraft, etc.)
I'm sure Rockstar just secretly updates this game, so we all think we are going crazy. How did I miss this after finishing this game 5 times?
No it’s been in the game
It's rare
You are right probably. There are lots of content never got implemented in the base game cause of time limitations. I wouldnt be surprised if ROCKSTARs just keep adding them through secret updates and make it more immersive. A good move honestly
I swear they added a moose.
The one that I do think they added, is that herbalist guy you find in the wilderness. Because I never seen the guy until recently.
I've played this game for 2200 hours and I've never seen her before, wow
I think she’s referring to John having to have vengeance no matter what it will cost him…he could’ve chosen to take his family and go, but instead he thinks he must punish Micah.
And it’s a cycle which ends as you start it.
this game is a masterpiece… years of playing this game now and still there are new things to find every time you play. I just recently encountered a ufo while traveling up at mount shann and now the soothsayer which I had never encountered once
The one about going round in a circle and those characters reliving their stories- canna stop thinking about Westworld! Love this game! And this is yet another awesome video 👍
In all my play-throughs I've only ever been able to trigger her once! Tried in vain ever since, so seeing a vid on her from my fave RDR UA-camr really brightens my day! Thanks, Strange Man!
the cirle one really hit me hard in the feelings... and i love how you demonstrated it with the multiple arthurs
Something amazing about how constantly this game, that thematizes the passage of time and of times, engages with foreshadowing. Camp conversations, Blind Man Cassidy, and the Soothsayer, two characters you pay to provide you with live foreshadowing, while also gaining honor, because Rockstar wants us on the ideal narrative path of high honor.
What made me unequivocally want to be a part of this wonderful channel was the blind mans fortune explanations. Strangeman is the undisputed master of all things Red Dead Redemption 2. Hail the master
I have only seen her once in 3 play throughs. I wasn't aware she had multiple spawn points.
This content was gold and i can't believe you cranked this out in a week.
kinda sad how that when he mentioned that all the characters will live forever as long as someone is playing the game but they have to relive all their struggles throughout the game
I wonder how many things are still undiscovered in this masterpiece 😍
4:55 Dutch was right here, that’s one of the things which make him so complicated. Between the madness there is a lot of philosophy and truth.
He was very philosophical but it always cost him and everyone else. All he had was dreams, all he was was fancy words. Plans. Speeches. But he never reached any goal he put forth. The goal always moved. To run with him was to run forever or die running. There would never really be a retirement like he promised.
Her fortune about The my last boy mission could be equally applied to the end of the story with Arthur and the confrontation at beaver hollow. Pure genius….
What did we replace him with nothing is actually a nod to nietzsche‘s “God is dead” quote which Micha uses against reverend Swanson in camp. We replaced God with nothing as the West in being tamed and “civilisation” takes root and the land is being remade in the vision of developers. My thinking anyways.
I've only encountered her twice and thought I'd see her regularly like Old Man Cassidy, but didn't I guess
WHAT? I played this game two times and didn't know about her
Never even knew this random event existed! This is why I subbed. Make as many countdown and filler videos as you need to continue pumping out the gold your usual content is. Much love!
To be honest, it looks like the woman in the picture in the grave in the swamp, and a little boy with a snake around his neck. It seems that when she was young.
13:20 I think this is actually about Sadie returning to John with Micah's whereabouts, she used "she" not "he" and she fears the outcome of "her return" since it means John's fate is doomed.
I think it's about Abigail returning to John. By returning to him she basically ruins both of their lives and their son's. After John dies, Abigail also dies an unexplained death, likely suicide because for all of John's faults, she loved him. If she never returned, John would have had nothing to protect, and Abigail and Jack would have had a much different life free from John's crimes.
This person could say that I actually live in a cave in the middle of Denmark and all my friends are actually hamsters that feast off my dead skin as it falls on the moist, cave floor and I'd believe them
Played the game 3 times , completed the story 100% , got legend of the west platinum trophy and NEVER MET THIS WOMEN O_O
2:35 This is a nod to Dutch since the gang looks up to him sees him as a mentor*
Dutch: I've got a plan. This is a good one🤣
When Dutch told Marston he has a plan, I think he meant it like "when I'm dead you'll be next,you won't believe me but as soon as you see your home being invaded by the government then you will believe me"
Can't wait for RDR 3 to explore the vast Open west that keeps getting hinted at so much in RDR 2. That map will be 50x bigger than RDR 2 for sure! And ofc be a prequel to RDR 2 like the golden age of the west 70s or 80s
Maps will get smaller in future rockstar games but much detailed. As hinted by many reports leaked in many sources. Gta 6 I mean
@@ChrisBrown-ir6sf they're not real bruh stop believing every thing u see online
@@skxlter5747
Take 2 CEO said " GTA 6 will forget the past"....Now that lines scares me cause NOWADAYS we are seeing all great franchise forgetting the past and transforming themselves to Crap Woke Garbage to amuse some tiny minority who doesn't even plays the game. Can't wait to see what it brings to the table.
@@ChrisBrown-ir6sf that can mean multiple things such as no more delays, no more greed or a New improved engine with new animations n mechanics. It doesn't have to mean that the games will be shittier No that'll be bad for business if they scale down
Wow, i didn't even know she's in the game. Most encounter i get in bayou at night is just damn night folk
I missed this videos so much
These videos for some reason are extremely inspiring to me.
Bro, this editing style is so underrated!
Say what you will about playing as Jack but the way deaths are tied in to the game gives the story a proper ĺife and death theme.
Ey man rly like the content, you are the reason I keep coming back to rdr2 and I can’t get enough of your videos
I never saw this fortune teller tho, i always sees the old man most of time as he respawns everywhere.
I found her and halfway through my fortune she glitched and ran away giving me low honor acting like I punched or antagonized her
I think I was standing too close to her or something but I shot her and looted a silver chain bracelet which I really needed so I guess it's a win lol
Soothsayer:betray them first!!!!!!!
Arthur:stands with gang like a chad
I never got why they hated jack,he was a pretty alright character
I played And Still Playing And Never Ever Seen This
Thank you Strange Man
after all these yesrs the game has still soooo many secrets
I ll have to play it again!
I saw the circle repeating over and over as how seeking revenge doesn't end - Arthur is a killer and so becomes hunted, but protects John. John is a killer, and so becomes hunted, but protects Jack. Jack becomes a killer when he shoots Agent Ross for his revenge (though we have yet to know who he protects - possibly Abigail as he only kills after her death). It's about redemption and revenge being cyclical and never breaking. You kill, and then you are killed, you seek revenge and then become the revenge. This also applies to Dutch and Colm, kill the brother, kill Anabelle, steal Colm's scores, kidnap and torture Arthur, kill Colm before his hanging (preventing escape, but also revenge on Colm), only to be killed yourself by Pinkertons.
I’ve actually never met this character before holy crap 😯
I have spent an insane amount of time in the swamp at night hunting nite folk and ghosts and I have never even heard of this character before. Best. Game. Ever.
I’ve 100 percented this game and I had no idea she was in the game. Wow
"Enjoy Your Fishing Kid. While You Still Can."
Wow i really just didn't see the parallel of Dutch's cliff dive until this video 😱
Rock Star's world building and attention to detail is amazing
12:58, that's a good aim you took bro
I played this game 3 times before, exploring every detail I could find, only now in my 4th gameplay that I've encounter this for the very first time.
Amazingly put together!!! Great music too
Bad ass editing. Great work!
I thought she was a night folk ambush, so anyway I started blasting….
Funfair, unlike Blind Man Cassidy, if you point your gun, she walks away cursing you, which lowers your honor
You are tough, man, you are brilliant. Thank you for all the job you do.
Wow! I never met her, even did 100% completion😮
@11:30 "you know, someone once told me time is a flat circle, everything we’ve ever done, or will do, we’re gonna do over and over and over again"
I have played this game 5+ times and have never once encountered her..how fascinating