10 Experiences that DON’T invalidate you | Dissociative Identity Disorder
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If I might I'd add: that people can't tell what alter is out or that you have switched doesn't invalidate you. There are so many "well we've never seen you switch even on long livestreams" in the comments on her last video, but like, it's the point of DID? It's not made to be noticeable? I guess most people who commented that aren't part of systems themselves, because I feel it's quite well known (Kyle even said "if I didn't want you to know you wouldn't know" during the interview with Anthony Padilla.)
On a similar note it doesn't invalidate you if all your alters sound the same. For example a lot of alters in the Aether Amalgam (Acrylic and Aether channel) sound very similar (to me at least, I'm not a native English speaker and I don't notice accents as much if they're not a bit strong).
I'm a singlet but doing my best to educate myself on the subject and all I hope is that this whole drama causes as little harm as possible to the DID community. Could Trisha be faking? Yes. Could she be genuine and going about it terribly? Yes too.
I guess when someone has a video up saying they are a chicken nugget, it makes it hard to believe anything else they say. To me it is neither here nor there if she has it, it is the fact of calling someone else crazy and not even watching Dissociadid video and saying they bad mouthed her which they never did. I hope she gets the help she needs.
@@reneelemay6417 Yeah honestly I don't blame people for having a hard time believing her with that track record, and her attitude is getting worse and worse with the attacks on DissociaDID, my comment was mostly aimed at systems who could take these comments for themselves, what I wanted to point out was that some arguments to "prove" she's faking are misguided and could be detrimental to other people. My opinion on Trisha having DID or not is "I can't know for sure but it doesn't matter because either way she's harming a lot of people and needs to stop"
Totally agree. The problem is not if she fakes it or not (even knowing her last pr stunts, many have reasons to think she does)
The problem is that she spreads misinformations about DID and hurts all the mental health community. Plus she attacks DissociaDID and uses them as a scapegoat.
Either she has DID or not, she has obvious mental health issues she needs to treat and she has to see specialists asap to treat that before making more damage
And her attacks at Dissociadid are horrible and saying Nin bullied her. She obviously did not watch the video because Nin was so kind towards her. It sucks to see how much this has affect Dissociadid they are a lovely system.
@@reneelemay6417 of course she didn't watch. She doesn't care about truth but only on what her fans believe, or more precisely how make her fans believe what she wants to side her and attack the "bullies" (in this case DissociaDID who didn't say anything but kind corrections about TP usual uneducated bullshit)
This is an extremely classy route to go in not pretending like this video didn’t happen but also trying not to add extra animosity to the pile.
As a trans woman host, it makes me feel better that other people think they're gender fluid and stuff because of other alters, cause when my male alter is close, it freaks me out to feel his masculinity, and makes me question myself so much more
I am FTM host, but I have ONLY cis male alters.
Our system host is a biracial gay guy; our emotional protector is an Asian aro-ace guy; I, our physical protector, am a White straight guy; our sexual-romantic protector is a biracial bi woman; we are all cis; our body was AMAB - so yeah... Things get very very very very confusing for us at times, and that is before co-consciousness!
Dude I'm a woman, but like, I have two male alters. I was always so confused, sometimes I feel so feminine but sometimes I feel like a man, I had no idea that I had different people
It really is like that, I have recently started to question if I'm actually just okay with any pronouns instead of just they/them. Mostly becaus eit my alters being girls, boys and one nonbinary lad
Yeah, we’re FTM with mostly male alters and some of our alters are trans women and I feel bad for them because we are out as ftm and it probably feels like a backwards nightmare to them… poor girls. Our cis girls don’t care too much, honestly, but the trans girls… god I feel so bad for them, it must be so dysphoric to go backwards…
As an OSDD-1b system with only emotional amnesia between switches, thank you so much for this. We **really** needed this validation
~Envy from the Cadre System
Hey we were thinking could potentially experience emotional amnesia and was wondering if you have any good resources to figure out what’s going on? -Micah
Ten experiences that DON'T invalidate you as a system:
1) feeling that you don't have your own identity 3:20 to 5:09
2) struggling with gender identity 5:09 to 6:39
3) mimicking those around you 6:39 to 8:30
4) feeling confused when another alter fronts or is co-conscious and not knowing where you end and they begin 8:30 to 10:07
5) having alters with no amnesia between them 10:07 to 10:44
6) having parts that seem more like extreme parts of you rather than being like very distinctly different people 10:44 to 11:38
7) not being able to remember early life trauma 10:38 to 12:40
8) having alters that seem to have only one emotion or function (having fragments) 12:40 to 13:23
9) not being aware of time loss or amnesia 13:23 to 14:42
10) not having words to describe what you're going through 14:42 to end
I totally agree with you on this. Just because she put out misinformation doesn’t mean that she is faking it or that anyone who feels these things is faking it.
there is alot of fake information out there, and if your trying to come to terms with wtf is going on; you might see it and go "ah! now it makes sense." and .. some of it might actually be accurate; and such; yknow
Point 1: *cries*
Point 2: *cries*
Point 3: *cries*
Point 4: *cries*
Point 5: *cries*
Point 6: *nods*
Point 7: *hesitant nods*
Point 8: *waves at one*
Point 9: *cries*
Point 10: *furious nodding and crying*
Another few things I want to add:
1. You can be a system without feeling like it's a disorder. We do not view our DID as a disorder. We view our c-ptsd as a disorder. While DID forms because of trauma, the trauma would still be there without the DID. So we see DID as just basic having alters with amnesia and then the positive outweighs the negative (for us at least).
2. You can have DID and be really comfortable in the body and wear "sexual clothing". It's probably not common that every alter is fine with that, but it can happen.
(So many people said she's faking, because you can't talk about such serious stuff while wearing something like that, honestly, it was ridiculous.)
I probably forgot something.
But it's so! good that you're making this video.
1) THANK YOU! We NEEDED to read this! One of our cohosts is a youthful age slider 7-16; she is all about positivity and laughing and our togetherness. She, all of us in front really, view our relationships as a blessing - friends and loved ones we've never had even in adulthood. Twice in response videos yesterday we heard that alters were not family or big group of friends, because DID is horrible. She lost it and slid to 7, crying and terrified she would hurt us by making us look "fake" thereby costing us potential friends/support/help. It was heartbreaking - 2) and flat out cruel. Telling people they aren't valid because their situation evolved differently is WORSE than what an obviously confused and damaged person prattles about themselves. I'd name systems but some of are insisting that's not the point, but for me it is: they hurt one of our children by basically telling her she has no right to be happy and to love us or she isn't real. Ok. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. 1) Sorry. Sorry. Anyway, thank you so much - 1) Maria, host and 2) Yosuke, protector
I agree completely. We don't view our OSDD as a disorder - it's just how we've always been. Yes it's confusing, sure, but so is just being a human. Like you, we view our BPD as the disorder and the thing to be overcome, NOT our being multiple.
You're just amazing ❤️
Yes! Sure it is technically a Disorder but it's also a survival mechanism that can be a great skill/support later in life as you learn to work with it.
i think Astrea's web mentions it should not be seen as a disorder
I have OSDD1a and once described them as "if all the multiverse versions of me that have already been got stuffed into this body with me." Which sounds kinda crazy in its own.... But that made more sense than something I hadn't heard of yet haha. And even when I did it was a year before I realized. Brains are facinatingly tunnel visioned!
How i know if i have OSDD? I understood that all the alters are the same and work together with big parts of amnesia. Right?
That’s really interesting! I don’t see as many people talking about OSDD 1a as I see talking about DID or OSDD 1b. I’m really curious about it, and I don’t see as much information out there regarding it.
Would you mind if you were to explain to me the differences between OSDD 1a and 1b ( i am aware of the medical terms , i mean it as in how you guys experience it ) , i am pretty sure we have OSDD 1 b but dont have a diagnosis yet
@@xydoit2024 basically! All alters in one system no matter if DID or OSDD are part of the same overall person/collection. I think DissociaDID said its like when you break a bowl- all are pieces to it. And oftentimes during diagnosis drs will settle first on OSDD and may later change to DID or not. It really is on a spectrum.
@@GeekInSequins I haven't found a lot either, most of it is about OSDD 1b or it is just a mention of what OSDD 1a is really. Treasure hunt on many platforms, even academic articles are in low supply.
This is a very good video with what’s been happening. We aren’t saying she is faking, just super upset with all the misinformation and hate.
Thank you for this. While I do think the vast majority of the backlash she received was reasonable, it was really disheartening (though not surprising, unfortunately) to see the immediate turn to accusations of faking. Thank you for taking the time to combat this so gently and generously. -Ares
@Elisa Castro I don't think that bothering to accuse someone of faking helps anyone. It is fine to say "your understanding of this condition is incorrect." Because that is verifiably true. Someone being a troll does not suddenly make it okay to speculate on their mental health, and especially not to make definitive statements.
It's best to completely abstain from talking about whether she's lying or not because there is no value to be gained from that conversation. The only provable thing it communicates is that it is okay to accuse unpleasant people of lying about their mental health for attention. Even if it is sometimes true, it's not something I would like to see becoming normalized.
@Elisa Castro I don't think that having an incorrect understanding of DID or behaving abusively automatically means someone is lying or incorrect about having DID, either.
Our system in the past has behaved in verbally abusive ways when triggered, and we also began to suspect DID initially based on an adjacent but ultimately completely incorrect understanding of DID. This was because it was still the best language we had at the time, and we're afraid to look for more. We have since been diagnosed with DID and now have a far more correct understanding. Through DID-specific therapy we have learned how to have healthy conflict and safe relationships.
That is why I think it is only harmful to start a conversation about faking.
I'm so proud of the community for how they are handling this situation and further educating people on D.I.D/O.S.D.D. Thank you so much. Together we stand, together we survived
The 'not able to find words' is called alexithymia and is part of the damage/changes that occur to the brain as a result of the splitting process.
The right and left hemispheres of the brain no longer connect/communicate or have impeded function sending the information that equates emotions/feelings/thoughts to the verbal control mechanism (corpus callosum). This is very common among abuse survivors (note that alexithymia is NOT only found with DID) and trauma survivors. We've been troubled with this all our lives and still are. It can be incredibly frustrating to feel something so strongly and yet be utterly incapable of communicating those 'thoughts' to anyone around you. -The Infinity System
yes...and the worst part is that we can speak so eloquently amongst ourselves when we are alone, and have time to process and write poetry...and just dissociate freely, let the words spill out...but around others, we feel we have no time to discuss anything important, from all this history of being put down and forgotten instead of heard. I really can't find those words when I'm around someone, almost as though their energy is conflicting with our own, causing a disruption like static around our thoughts. I really hate being trapped in this body, being trapped in this prison, feeling like s. hawking barely being able to communicate, when we have a (mostly) working mouth and voice with which to speak... can't bring myself to talk slower around others, even when they say they'll listen. no one ever really does. if they did, they would care. they would bring it up themselves. but they just don't want to listen. and trying to interpret what our poetry means is like a puzzle I want others to solve...and they never do.
The struggle is real! I used to be smart! But sometimes I look like a total bimbo.
I remember when I first learned what dissociation is I thought "Oh I rarely do that." Then I noticed when I did, remembered dissociating all throughout elementary school, remembered doing it in purpose, remembered my confusion and excuses, noticed time loss, and so forth.
I’ll admit that my first gut reaction to watching the video was basically “she doesn’t have DID, she’s doing it for attention”. Right after that I took a step back to realize that it is not my place to say that. Wether or not she has DID is none of my business and I’m not in a position where I can or should diagnose her, but even if she does have it, she’s still spreading rampant misinformation that will not be tolerated. We as a community should be focusing on correcting the wrong things she said and breaking down the stigma rather than trying to “expose” each other as fake. The comments from the community rallying around each other warmed my heart, I hope we can all get her to see the error of her ways. Good on you for spreading the information that your symptoms do not make you any more or less valid as any other system 🖤
giggle giggle, everything is valid
My therapist told me last week she suspected I might be part of a system, and before then, I had never knew what DID MEANT. so imagine the whirlwind I’ve been through this week doing my best to research about it lmao. Thank you for this video. I don’t have a diagnosis and I may very well not be part of a system, but this makes me feel much better.
Hang tight and buckle up, because that whirlwind will keep spinning for awhile. We're a year into our diagnosis and it hasn't stopped yet. You found a great resource here with the Entropy System, their videos are well researched and have helped us immensely in coming to grips with DID. /support
We rly need to hear all that
The whole drama yesterday messed up everyone pretty bad
We purposely avoided the video after seeing things on twitter, figured it was safer esp given the day it was. We laughed about the forks issue (sorry!), we've had a life long issue of spoons going missing.Even in childhood we'd get asked about the missing spoons, and now I'm in my 40's, and I have to buy spoons often and to this day I do not know where they go!! In 200 years someone in the future will discover some wild stash of spoons in the walls or something probably and wonder what even was the point.
meowingatgames
Spoons… Thanks you helped me smile
meowingatgames I suffer from chronic pain and use the spoon theory to describe my energy. I read this from the view of spoon theory and had a good chuckle. I wish I could find those spoons.
Your spoon 🥄 story is absolutely amazing thank you for sharing 🥰
@@anacrus2 Same! All sorts of invisible-illness, chronic pain, auto immune... that's what makes it even more funny to me... using up all the spoons, but no really I have to order more because I went and looked, only 2 left! lol Also very sorry you are dealing with pain too, it sucks.
So what you’re saying is that you have a magic drawer that shows you the number of spoons that you have left till you need to sit down and recharge. Lol🤔😺
OSDD1-b squad! I have a very hard time with the situation right now. I'm just at the beginning of my journey, got my official diagnosis just this week. I don't really have communication with my alters and fragments yet, but I know of some and get better at noticing when someone is co con or "fronting" (quotation because I'm always co con, but not in control necessary afaik).
One of my protectors/persecutors is doing over time since I watched Nins video, I have a very hard time containing that anger because it correlates with some stuff we experienced since opening up to our close circle about being a system. I'm very sure that TP is just using a topic she stumbled upon to get coin and attention, it's her M.O., she's done it before. But I'm also sure that she IS struggling with severe mental health problems, which makes this even worse. Exploiting a surviving mechnism of this degree in that way is just toxic and wrong IMHO and the reactions around are triggering my insecurity with OSDD. Thank you as always for being awesome and giving all of us a voice!
Our host is always co-conscious like you too. Our host was curious about watching the video, but one of our protectors shut them down real quick because she knew it wasn't a good idea. She saw how hurt a lot of other systems were by it and she didn't want us to be too. Communication is a challenge for us. It doesn't really work well internally, so we have to write it all out in a journal and wait until someone else fronts, sees it, and then responds. We have noticed that talking out loud to each other can be helpful sometimes though, if that helps
The Diagon Collective that was a good call, we’re still upset about it D: I actually started a notebook for this purpose yesterday and I hope at least someone apart from me will use it. Right know I’m a bit skeptical about it, since no one ever left something for me (host) on purpose and I have a feeling they won’t do it now either since I’m always co con @.@;
Fox Den
Hi, I‘m questioning if I (we) have OSDD1-b. Is it normal that I‘m always co con or fronting and never fully switch to an alter?
I also have the feeling that if I‘m just co con I kinda blend with the person at the front. Like I have the same thought pattern as they have and actually confuse them if I start thinking myself. Because of that I don‘t know if I‘m faking, but it all feels sooo… „not me“.
Can you help me?
Love ~Cleo
Ageamiu hi, Cleo. I’m not a therapist or professional in any way, those are the people who can tell you if your symptoms/experiences fit the criteria :)
I (Mei) am always co-con or fronting as far as I know and there can be a lot of blending, but for me, I can often distinguish me and what is blended. My headmates‘ thoughts are also mostly just not mine, it’s like catching snipers of a conversation on the street most of the time. That said I’ve only been diagnosed since early this year and don’t have good communication with the others and am still struggling with the diagnosis. Not sure if this helped in any way. 😅 if what you’re experiencing is restricting you in your life, I strongly suggest you talk to a professional for help 💗💕 good luck and have a nice day :)
Fox Den
Thank you Mei, that helped a lot. I‘ll talk with my therapist about it.
Maybe this is just passive Influence what I‘m experiencing?
10:40 : okay now I'm crying.
I struggle from our "lack of amnesia" ... I discovered we were "several people in 1 body" thanks to a friend that lived the same way. When I had to go to university, i started to see less and less this friend. I needed to talk with people who were "several people inside", to feel completely understood.
That's why I searched about DID. I've found social media groups etc. Everyone seems to struggle with amnesia and difficult traumas.... And we don't. My friend didn't have amnesia too. I felt lost. Didn't know if my friends from inside and me were living DID or not. I still struggle to say if I'm part of this community or not.... But hearing about OSDD 1B always make us feel safe, understood.
I wish I can meet some system who would talk about funny things, love, and everyday-life problems, instead of hearing about traumas and hospital everytime I seek for a system friend. Maybe talking with OSDD1B people would help us to feel less lonely, I think....
Same tbh.
You could talk with me, I've wanted to talk to someone with osdd-lb as well. Not all the hospital stuff and traumatic experience. Just want to talk casually about life itself and how everyone's day was
@@elizabethbrooks8604 Hello I don't know if youtube comments are the best place to talk but my facebook is "Yokko Sôneko" if you want to (some of my "alters" have facebook too but we almost only use mine xd)
I can't believe those 41 likes ! Thank you, it makes us think we're not alone to think like that ^^
I don’t know if you have a Reddit account but the OSDD subreddit is a great resource full of people with OSDD-1 (1a, 1b, and general/combined osdd-1)! Everyone really gets it.
This is the best video I’ve seen on this topic so far!
Imo it’s members of the DID community who have put out the most sensitive, respectful, and informative responses to the UA-camr in question.
The videos I’ve seen challenging her validity have primarily come from people without DID, and employ stereotypes about DID to invalidate her. That’s been for me the most upsetting aspect of this unfortunate situation. I hope people discover channels like yours to learn accurate information and stop perpetuating damaging myths about those of us struggling with DID and OSDD.
I'm only three minues into the video and I already just want to say: yes!!! thank you!!! finally!!! so many people have said stuff about how she's faking because xyz, when xyz is in fact a thing that we (as a professionally diagnosed system) have experienced.
It was happening on a DID disorder server, so one of our protectors left a long message about why that behaviour is wrong and everyone was completely oblivious to even doing this. So thank you!!! for putting this out there.
We luckily don't have any issues with thinking we're faking (except the host, sometimes), but honestly... this could damage so many other systems.
~ Dawn
l think you mean "three experiences", not "three videos"
@@Liravin I actually wanted to say "three minutes", but thank you for telling me! Who doesn't know being three videos into one? :D
@@cirrusfloccus6080 that makes a lot more sense than my "three experiences" xD
YO IT'S YOU!! HEY THERE!! Agree with this!!!! - Dean (Delta System)
exqeriment- i-it's me? Have we talked before? o: (Also hi!) ~ Vivian
Wyn,
What a beautiful and grounding reminder. This video was so loving and validating to watch. Taking the time to bring the Entropical Fish back to center was such a classy move. I had watch Nin’s (DissociaDID) and Nan’s (Team Piñata) response videos and my heart sunk for the DID community. I am so proud of the responses I have heard, watched, and read. You are truly beacons of light in this storm.
I don’t have DID, but I have grown to love and deeply care for all of the systems I have had the honor of knowing. This is the very community that gave me my resolve to being a psychiatrist and an advocate for trauma and trauma related disorders. You all have helped me to be more compassionate and understanding towards others and to be more compassionate and understanding towards myself in my own healing process.
I’m so proud of you all,
Stay safe!
With love,
Sakina
This was such an important and empathetic response to this whole mess. She needs to be called out for certain things, yes, but I'm so glad you're taking the time to point out that these particular things are NOT what she needs to be called out for. There are so many layers to how her video has negatively impacted the community, and I think sowing doubt among those who already doubt themselves is a consequence that is being overlooked at the moment. I really appreciate this video.
Thank you for this video. The young lady was obviously struggling. And i would much rather see informational/educational responses than bashing a struggling person.
i’m singular, but i have so much respect for the grace the DID community is handling this with. you’re all incredible
Besides the blatant misinformation, I'm going play devil's advocate and say maybe she does have DID, but possibly her alters are just fragments and that's why her experiences aren't full switches. I'm also going to throw out that although she is scandalous and seems to do a lot for attention, maybe she didn't mean to give the misinformation, there's the possibility that (if she does in fact have fragments) she was just explaining her experience to the best of her ability without being as well versed as some others may be (I thought it was pretty clear in the video that she hadn't done much research and was presumably only speaking from personal experiences and how she perceives her experiences as compared to system UA-camrs).
I def don't agree with many things she's done, but I do appreciate that you are not letting whatever this actually is be triggering and instead are making a learning opportunity out of it. I think it's so so important in normal life but especially in the healing process to remove ourselves from the situations and remember that other people's actions are not a direct stab at us.
well there are many kinds of systems. maybe she is a median system
As someone who follows the creator in question (and has for a decade) and this channel I agree AND I really hope she watches this video.
I dont have did but am a supporter and fascinated to learn as much as possible I'm not going to speculate if she has a system or not but what I think is a healthy next step is that now that she confronted the possibility of it she should seek help or therapy and explore more of what makes her....her even if she finds out she doesnt have it therapy can go a long way in helping you figure out who you are as a person
Thank you for the video Wyn! As a newly diagnosed system, we're still trying to figure out a number of the things you mentioned! (Denial is very hard for us at the moment) 💙
Based on what we've seen of this UA-camr in the past couple hours, she could reallly benefit from talking to a professional if she isn't already. Though UA-cam can be understandably therapeutic, it isn't a replacement for a psychologist/ psychiatrist.
Hope you're doing well Entropy System!
-The Reign System 💜
Denial of the condition is part of the condition. We were covering this early on with our therapist and expressing our denial, how preposterous it was and that "this couldn't have happened to us!" She said calmly looked at us and said "Trauma Doesn't Lie".
Three words. It may not help you, but it helped us to accept. It still does. /system support
This is so important. The other person's extremely harmful video impacted the way I think about myself and my system. Already, I've held back from saying certain things because I "don't want to sound like Trisha". Thank you for talking about this.
Thank you for making this video. Even though Trisha's understanding of DID in that video was very inaccurate and she has talked about this topic in a careless and harmful way (as she often does), it really bothered me how definitively people cried "faking" based on what she said and totally invalidated the experiences she was describing, because she obviously DOES experience identity issues of some kind. Whether she actually has DID or not and whether she is a generally toxic person is neither here nor there; it always sucks to see someone's struggles being treated as invalid.
Oh Wyn, we just adore you and your channel. This was such a good and important video because we agree that these things can sometimes really muddy the waters when trying to figure things out. Thank you for sharing this. 💜💜
“I was the one in charge of not knowing.” That is such a lovely way to put it 💚
This video was really informative for us, we never thought we had DID because we don't have amnesia, but we didn't know exactly what it was, I guess we have OSDD1b, thank you!
If you'd like to talk than we'd be happy to talk. We r a osdd-lb system
You are all gentles and scholars!
We could not have found a more elegant, positive and uplifting response to this travesty than yours. /applause
I needed this video so bad! I'm only 5 months in to being aware that I am a part of a system. My "truth" alter has a lot to say about her video, most of which is not very nice. I loved that you pointed out not going to watch the video so we don't encourage bad behavior. I have a DID diagnosis and still find it hard to accept, I loved the part about not being aware of time loss. You have so many great videos, but today this video has been so soothing and validating. Thank you!
When "that person" was trending, that pushed a video about D.I.D. into our feed (a genuinely good video. I never watched the infamous one!) and that set the ball rolling for our own realization and process of working through that we, in fact, are a system/plurality... and, at the same time, the massive fallout from it made us not want to tell ANYONE for fear of being told that we were faking and just doing it because "it's TRENDY now!".
Thank you so much for making this 💜 I was thinking something like this was sorely needed now and I also felt that when the same person made that trans video. I've seen neither one and I don't know much. But for example in the trans video I heard ppl mocking this person for saying that they felt like a drag queen, like a man dressing up as a woman. And honestly As A Trans Person, I deeply relate to that and I've actually seen that exact feeling described in guides by trans ppl for questioning folks to figure out they are trans so it seems fairly common.
And to me, as someone who knows nothing about this and only sees the reactions, it feels a lot like policing ppl and policing how informed one has to be etc etc.. idk I'm just sayin...
I'm an obsessive Person but not everyone has to obsess over every little thing that's going on with them and use all the right words and all the right terms... Idk.
I don't believe that she's really doing it for attention. Even if she isn't correctly educated, doesn't invalidate her. She shouldn't be invalidated, however she should go see a professional. Absolutely not to prove herself, but to get help for herself and get the correct treatment. ❤
Im just going to say this - i never once have claimed to have DID, nore will i ever and i completely empathize (will never know what it feels like, but still will try to understand and support yall) but these videos do help me as someone who struggles with extreme dissociation. That does not make me any or anyone else struggling with mental health issues any more or less valid and anyone who says otherwise can go fuck off. It doesnt matter if it was trisha's video, dissociaDID's, or anyones. It is not ok to judge people like that
I love that so many systems are taking time to educate and correct the misinformation that was said! Most people would have caused drama and invalidated her. I personally do not stand for her videos or how she "picks and chooses" disorders/sexualities. I have gained so much respect for you and Nin! Both have openly stated that you are not invalidating her and are taking the courage to step out and help bring light to D.I.D and the problems that occur when someone self diagnoses themselves. Thank you for being the bigger person and standing for the DID community! Much love!
@@maze6797 unfortunately, you can't control your fans. Nin specifically said in her video to not do that. She specifically stated it was not up to the community to decide who was faking and who wasn't. Being called crazy hurt her and she got upset about that, but she still told her fans to not go after Trisha. Unfortunately, people on the internet do what they want
@@maze6797 Not everyone from the community is going to be nice.. especially when a well-known influencer misleads and self-diagnoses themselves with something that can take people( that actually have DID) years to have a correct diagnosis. I simply stated that Entropy System, Nin, and other DID associated channels are taking time to correct the misinformation. I was not talking about their fans. As Staci said, UA-camrs can not control all their fans. Not everyone from every community is going to have open arms and accepting of everyone. That's just how the world is.
@@maze6797 I do not mean to come off as harsh. I just want the channels that are taking the courage to step out and respectfully correct and educate Trisha to help her better understand that DID is not something that can just be self-diagnosed. It's not something that should be trolled or have spread incorrect misinformation on. I validate your opinion on the community not being completely accepting and understand why you feel the way you do.
@maze the vast majority of comments I’ve seen have been from people upset with the misinformation and being unkind to Nin. Obviously there are some people who are using self diagnosis as a dagger because they are angry...but I have seen more invalidation towards Trish from allies rather than the community itself tbh. Probably because there’s a huge difference between learning about a disorder and living with that disorder day-to-day! You are right in what you say although I think people have generally meant well jumping to Nins ‘rescue’ to defend her etc but they are essentially going against what Nin and DissociaDID stand for - that every system is valid, diagnosed or not. Self diagnosis is going to be more commonplace and necessary when you’re dealing with conditions like DID/OSDD that are often so hard to get a true diagnosis for! X
Thank you so much I'm having a hard time lately with second guessing all my experiences, but it's easier knowing so many people have overlapping experiences, even though I know everyone has a different journey.
Thank you so so so so so so so so so so so much for this video. This has assuaged much of my anxiety after watching this whole drama fallout happen. It had me invalidating myself and my headmates. But thank you for your channel in general and this video because it helps me to remember that me and my guys, regardless of whatever anyone else says, are all real and just trying to live our lives, you know? It helps me to remember to look to myself and my system for the validation I need. Also to just remember that DID/OSDD1-B is such a diverse and unique experience for each system.
I can't imagine what those with DID have to de with. I struggle with just myself in my own brain and my borderline, I can't imagine having to share it with other people! I know why the brain fragments off into different alters but I mean just dealing with your past traumas on top of dealing with your entire system! I was very impressed by how you explained everything so clearly and well for alot of people. Thank you!
Something I'd like to add that people were saying in the comments is that she's fake because all her alters names start with a T and that she is naming them all. People can definitely have alters that start with the same letter, and names come about differently for different systems and alters. One alter (the host) could be naming all the rest, either because of poor communication due to the fact that they don't know the alters actual names, or that's just how their system does things. Just like how an alter can choose their own name, the host can give that alter a name. Some alters in systems don't even have names, either no name, or just descriptors and job titles to describe the alters. There's many ways of being a system, and that's why it's not good to generalize like I see a lot of comments doing. It just adds to the ignorance and misinformation.
That’s absolutely true! There can even be multiple alters in a system with the same name! I can help the system stay hidden. Systems are diverse and it’s important not to disregarded that just because someone stirs controversy
The Entropy System Yup that's a good point! We have some alters with the same name as others in our system.
@@ChristAndChristCrucified lovely name, Shine Your Light Collective ✨✨
@@deborahbeattie9103 Thank you! We appreciate it :)
EXCELLENT VIDEO!!! I have borderline pd but often wonder about osdd1-b because I also heavily dissociate (a symptom of BPD) and experience what I liken to age-sliding and distinct differences in personality (but maybe just the identity diffusion of BPD!!) I'm happy to chat/answer questions anyone might have about BPD :))
Thank you for making this! Been having a rough time of it recently and this made it a lot easier to deal
god this video almost made me cry....i'm a (probably) osdd1-b system and i'm constantly battling with self doubt because of being constantly co-conscious and having no dissociative amnesia (though i've definitely repressed a lot of memories). hearing you say that those things dont invalidate my experience made me feel so much better. saving this video to rewatch when i'm feeling down again.
Oh that sounds similar to me. Nice to know i’m not the only one. I don’t hear anyone though, just feel that in different situations, sometimes a different side of me shows up to help
fantastic video, Wyn! sending so much safe love to you, and everyone else in your system, and all other systems, if wanted!
Seeing other people talking about believing they were gender fluid before finding out about their diagnosis! I actually figured out about DID because of my male alter realizing he was 100% not me and that he was his own with separate feelings and memories and behaviors. It's great to hear I'm not alone in my experience of feeling gender fluid.
def not alone, i believed i was genderfluid for 7 years before figuring out i had DID.
Thank you for this take on the conversation! Love you all!
Thank you for this. Have no one to talk to and needed this a LOT. Tearing up.
Thank you. ❤️
Thank you for posting this video. I’m new to my discovery and the video recently posted hurt me and made me question my system even more than before. I really appreciate you and everything you and your system does for the community.
Thank you, Wyn. Terrific material!
I really appreciate this. That other video was upsetting and I'm glad that you and others are doing what you can to protect and help people who may not know yet.
I cannot thank you enough! My system thanks you so greatly! Your videos give me hope, strength, and courage to keep moving forward in life.
Please keep up the phenomenal work♡
This video has been so impactful and transformative for me (us). This has helped beyond words. Thank y’all so much.
Wyn...beautifully said - as always! You and your system members approach everything with such a calm, kind, insightful attitude, without judgement or rash actions - it’s awesome to see! And your words are very much appreciated by those who are struggling or questioning their own validity! Thanks Entropy System for another wonderful video ☺️
Thank you so much for doing this video! You’re so wholesome. ❤️❤️❤️
What a sweet and smart and generous and helpful take! Nice going.
Thank you for making this video, The video that must not be named really triggered my system. We were starting to spiral and I was feeling really really invalid and hearing you talk about all this stuff makes me feel better.
What a lovely response to the video and reactions to it that have come out. Thank you for sharing this. You (your whole system, and you specifically) are so kind and compassionate, and determined to help this community, and it's so inspiring! ❤️❤️ Much love
Honestly thank you SO much for this. This video has seriously helped ground me again and allowed me to catch some breath bc as you mentioned I did relate to some of the things that Trish talked about and it completely spun us out seeing the backlash and thinking that I must full of it even though I’ve been diagnosed etc. This view point and everything you talked about is so important and I so appreciate you taking the time to sit down and talk about this for all of us here. I have to say, our DID community is amazing. The creators have shown not only support for each other but really taken the time to make sure that we are educated and taken care of and the way this entire situation was handled by most in the space was done with compassion, understanding and I’m just blown away and feel really greatful that although this can be really damn hard to live with we can have such wonderful support, education and resources to turn to who are actually active, involved and to be frank give a shit damn it shows that we stick together. Thank you again 💕
this is so so so so comforting. thank you so much. genuinely.
Thank you so much for making this Wynn. We have been thinking over this for a few days, and the video was getting to us so much that we couldn’t finish it at first. Hearing someone outside the system say that this is all valid helps so much 💜💜💜
This video made me feel so much better. Thank you
this is such a lovely, caring and kind video. I’m not a system but I find so much comfort in the way you seek to reassure everyone and create a safe space for confused people in the DID community 💖💗💕
This was so so so so so so amazing to come a crossed. Like, just wow. Thank you. So much.
This is going into my 'favorites playlist'! Thank you!
You are so classy. Thanks for making this video-I think this is my favorite video on DID in general. I have really struggled since my diagnosis (3 years ago) because I have felt all of the things you mentioned and felt like because of it, I must be faking.
You have helped us in more ways than you know. We send safe love to you and your system.
Graceful and eloquent as always. 💜 I’ve been very upset about said video and I’m trying to not let it upset and invalidate me today. Thank you 💜
This was all such important information to add into the mix, thank you 💖
Well done Wyn and anyone else who contributed to this video for being so mature and healthy-minded about this. I never even thought about the effect relating to certain things in that video would have on certain people. Thank you for being so selfless and so determined to spread education and understanding!
Thank you so much, Wynn! I spiraled for a couple of days after watching that UA-camr’s video. I had this preconceived notion that I should feel ashamed about myself and critique my own experiences thinking about how I come across like her to my friends and family-which coincidentally came at an inopportune time as I had just reconciled with a friend and had profusely asked forgiveness for previously accusing me of lying due to his little to no knowledge or familiarity of dissociative disorders other from that which is portrayed in the media and tv. That just made me distance myself from even feeling comfortable to address it again this time in fear I wasn't valid.. I love your videos, but this took a whole new take on the ordeal, without judgment or nitpicking. I believe this video has lifted our community in a category all of it's own! Thank you for being you! Xxo
This was extremely validating to watch, as we are a newer known system and our history has struggled hard with some of these things. I'm gonna be leaving a note her her to watch it. Hearing these things it touches me in a way I can't explain and brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for continuing to put out this type of content as it has helped us so much. I'm extremely happy our therapist recommend you to us! -Jeremy
I love you're perspective on this. Thank you for making a video in this way. Not excusing her behavior, but its refreshing to see some positivity on the other end of the spectrum. 😊
I have no idea how to explain how much this video means to me. Thank you. I NEEDED to hear what you had to say. I have been struggling with things that have come out in therapy and how to cope. I feel so much better after seeing this. Thank you so much!
Wyn I just love you!!! You do such an amazing job of validating systems in a world that makes us feel so abnormal!! THANK YOU!!!
Thank you, lovelies, for such a nice, validating, empathic video~ ❤️
We would just like to add that while yes, DID/OSDD-1 and BPD are definitely separate and can be confused, that in no way means that having both doesn't happen or is invalid. An example of this would be Nan from TeamPiñata. Our own long-term host was recently diagnosed with BPD, so this is something that they really picked up on (they also really relate to your first point)
- Valentina (Keelan co-con)
We're only at the beginning of our journey and we're all still getting to know each other. This video is so appreciated and it made us feel safe when we're at a place that doesn't feel the safest. Thank you for all that you do for the community!
Thank you for the information. Im so glad the DID UA-cam community is coming together in this time to spread as much information as possible right now. It's so beautiful. And thank you for not feeding into the negative of this situation and not invalidating others.
Omg you have just explained things in words that I myself could not put into words. Thanks.
Thank you. We are OSDD 1b and we really appreciate this video.
Thank you Entropy system for this video! You are so validating and supportive to even people who are singlets like me. I was just blown away that that channel called Nin and her system crazy. I literally cried for them. Thank you for not adding more drama.
~Bethany
Thank you
I needed to hear virtually every word you shared in this video.
When we first became able to hear what our peers had to say on dissociative disorders (watching UA-cam videos)… Watching came with headaches AND morbid fascination (unpleasant things) AND validation...
I’m delighted to say the headaches are no longer common place.
I began being able to hear what my peers had to say on these topics August 2019, following a horrible meeting with the attorney that was schedule to represent us at our disability hearing. He was using pressure tactics on our youngest, 15-year-old, son to get us to attend the hearing face-to-face rather than via phone which we had received special permission to do.
Our first dissociative disorder diagnosis came in late 2015 and a near miss diagnosis 8 or 10 years earlier. With 50+ years in the body and a lifetime of doing things the way we’ve always done things I don’t know that our system will ever be well acquainted, nor well mapped. However, when we can agree that any of this is an appropriate diagnosis, and I do mean “when”, our goal is functional multiplicity. Lately we have found ourselves mentally and vocally spewing the phrase, !does it even matter! in reference to having an appropriate diagnosis. We heard a lot from this part of us since the 2015 diagnosis up to the beginning of listening to our peers. The upheaval of late has us back to questioning appropriate diagnosis and whether or not we should give a flip.
Maybe we should just get on with walking down the sidewalk and get over obsessing with the cracks and the clumps of grass in the sidewalk.
The first time I met someone who could clearly see our switching and point out when we spoke with one accent or another, was surrounded by one aura or another… it made us quite sick. We had to ask, and then later insist, that he stop sharing his observations with us.
...I guess there’s no going back, you can’t unknown what you know, particularly now that we are no longer screaming to the universe for amnesia.
If you’ve read this far, thank you for listening to my/our? rambling
We shared your video on our Facebook along with this write up.
thank you so much for this video!! i’m in the beginning stages of getting a diagnosis, and felt so awful after watching the video and reading the comments. i was convinced i’ve been faking everything, and felt so guilty bc i felt like my existence was invalidating actual did and osdd systems. this video helped me a lot in gaining back some more validation, thank you so much!! 💕
Thank you so much for these videos. Makes us feel less alone.
Thank you so much for this video! I, as long-term host, struggle to tell who is fronting sometimes. Having my own identity is rough and scary, especially after so many years of it being safer to act like everyone around me. It's also hard with time loss. Thank you for validating these experiences.
-C
P.s. One of our littles says Hi.
Thank you! So helpful after yesterday!!
This is EXACTLY what we needed to hear. Thank you Wyn!
~ Violet 💜
And thanks for the heart 😆
heya, i wanna thank you for making this! i'm starting to realize that i might have osdd1b, and i have been coming up with every possible reason that i dont have it. this video was, despite a part of me not wanting to accept it, incredibly validating. honestly, your channel in general has made me so much more accepting of who i am, osdd or not, and that its okay to be unsure and different. :)
God... Needed this. Thank you so much.
thank you SO MUCH for talking about OSDD-1b!!! i always feel like my diagnosis is invalid or “not real enough” to be taken seriously. my system and i love you all so much, we appreciate everything you do for this community ❤️
Thank you. You've helped me so much. I've researched dissociative disorders for about four years and OSDD-1b fits the bill for me. Your channel was one of the first that I came upon to discuss OSDD-1b in a way that was positive and informative and incredibly helpful.
Very wisely spoken. Thank you for making this video!
I wasn't going to comment, I was just going to watch it and move on, But I have to say, You're so amazing for your gentle and kind way of handling this, alot of the things you talked about I related to and I did have the thought of "oh man am I invalid and am I just faking". I know im not now and your reassurance helped me so much. Thank you and I find you very valuable and very helpful and I plan to watch more of you guys. You've helped me more than you could realize with this video, I've been in a pretty dark place due to all of this and now I can see the light again. My headmates feel the same they're are greatful too but as the host, this helped ME a lot. You saved a life and we appreciate you so much. Have a super day and stay safe and healthy. 🙂- Chelsea
Thank you so so much
Thank you so much for these videos. You have no idea how validating this is to hear, as someone who was just diagnosed. I've been looking into resources on NAMI however there's limited stuff there. It's nice to hear things coming from someone who has DID rather than just written symptoms. Thank you.
The fallout of the video in question really affected me, and I felt insanely invalidated. This video helped immensely, and I really needed it. Thank you, Wyn. - The Lunar System
Thank you so so much for this video. I really needed this. 💕