@@donnydoeschildren3517 The editing is pretty simple and the voice acting is outsourced, and while the writing is often good there are many small mistakes as it's somewhat rushed. It's quantity before quality, but in a good way that works. There's some dedicated people involved.
@mokarokas-1727 I think you underestimate the prejudice against foreigners in Westeros though. Much as Robb hates the Joffrey, I think the threat of Foreign Invaders supersedes that.
@@crimsonECH1DNA That's mostly true, but there was a lot of isolationist sentiment in the North at the time. I'm also thinking of a vision Daenerys had about the Five Kings, where the wolf-headed one representing Robb "watched her with quiet appeal" (or something to that effect).
The northerners were fighting for Robb to be an independent king of the North and Riverlands. He didn’t want a targeryan ruling the north after everything the north had suffered under the targeryans. Robb, Stannis, and Tywin alliance is the most likely thing to happen during the war of the 5 kings
Regardless of what anyone says, there are 2 places that dany and drogo CAN NOT conquer, The North and The Vale. For The North, even in warmer seasons, it would be far colder than the dothraki sea, even during winter in the sea, not to mention how the population of the north is so dispersed and the frigid climate would mean that there isn’t enough supplies for the dothraki to raid to support the khalasaar. And that’s even assuming they can get past the neck. Imo the combination of the cold and enviorment of a swamp filled with venomouse and disease carring insects and reptiles, fucking alligators, and the cranegmen shooting shit covers blow darts at them would absolutly cripple the dothraki by the time the get through it. And as for the vale… literally the only reason aegon was able to get them to bend the knee was because he had a fucking dragon which, with drogo surviving, dany would not have
Idk, barren deserts and grass lands get pretty damn cold during the winter, the lack of moisture does mean that the Dothraki Sea wouldn't get any snow, but it also means there would be less of a greenhouse effect keeping heat trapped in the area, even during the summer deserts get below freezing during the night, during winter they're like that all the time. For a good example from another great show, did you ever think it was weird how characters in Breaking Bad were always wearing coats and 3 layers despite being in the New Mexico desert? That's because while that show was filmed around Albuquerque NM, it was mostly filmed during autumn and winter, the actors were genuinely cold and even had hand warmers in their pockets in a lot of scenes.
There is no place in Westeros that the dotraki can take , they have no chance ,remember that moment when Drogo personal guard was killed by Jorah because his sickle cant penetrate westerosi armour , yeah that is what would happen would all dotraki în westeros, their weapons are usles against knights
Without Dragons, the technology gap is too great. The Dothraki are an army made up entirely of near unarmored light cavalry and mounted archers with bows and curved swords completely useless against plate armor, IDC how AGILE they are, they are getting smoked, even by Renly's brigade of boys playing at war. Westeros had plate armor, archers(longbow & crossbow), pikes, lances, trebuchets, Wildfire(at KL) and Castles/Fortresses. The Dothraki are somewhere between the Mongols and Comanche but FAR closer to the Comanche since they were more concerned with taking useless trophies and slaves than incorporating captured tech into their warfare style.
not all Westerosi soldiers are clad in plate armor, most of them are levies wearing little to no protection. Even among knights, full plate armor is expensive and relatively rare outside of wealthy houses. The Dothraki arakhs and bows, combined with their skill as horse archers, would easily cut down the majority of Westerosi soldiers who lack proper armor or training. exploiting weaknesses and overwhelming opponents with speed and precision, The Dothraki don’t rely on single combat, they thrive on speed, strategy, and overwhelming their enemies, archery, and mobility. Westerosi knights, while armored, are slow and less adaptable compared to the Dothraki. it's absurd to claim they would stand no chance. Their weapons and tactics are far from being useless, especially not against armies that are often poorly equipped and disorganized.
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There's a whole mess of Targs in exile and Dany is the bottom of the pile. From a destiny standpoint, they probably all die out one way or another before she gets to the point where she hatches the eggs. Having more children was not going to change the Rebellion. Aerys is not going to be more sane if his kids all survive, or if he is sane, he's going to piss off the nobles at some point. The man kicked off his reign by appointing a mass-murdering war criminal as his Hand. Rhaegar is still going to be looking for his extra dragon head from a source that provides the Ice for the song of ice & fire, which means Lyanna, which means trouble with the Starks & Baratheons, that Aerys is not going to handle well, and we get the Rebellion. The only possible difference is if one of the middle kids is old enough to repudiate his father & brother's actions, and side with the rebels, he might become their king, although in this scenario, a king with more limited power and a parliament of some sort to check it.
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No dragons and no unsullied, sorry but the dothraki would be wiped out. They are light cavalry shock units at best, easily defeated by shield walls and pike columns. Renly's forces were 100k strong. Additionally the weather and terrain of the stormlands would be a bad place for them to start their invasion, they would have better luck rolling into the westerlands or the southern reach first.
Drogo's men are too poorly armored to stand against knights, archers, and crossbowmen. Lances would give the knights an advantage in a charge as well. The Dothraki may be based on Mongols, but Mongols wore body armor and used seige weapons. This would end quickly outside of the Dothraki doing hit and run raids on villages.
@@wolog1454That's not at all what the video said , and the stormlands would never fight for the dotraki after they burn their Village, and Dorne will never join Danerys if she is already married with a savage , if Doran dind't join the war of the five kings just for revenge he will not join her either
@@flavius5722In the books Doran tells his daughter basically that he is not joining the war of five kings bc he is waiting for Dany to come to westeros
Really neat to hear this alternative story line (with no Dragons). I suspect with all the death going on, there won't be enough defences against the Night King.
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I think with Drago dead Dany might try burning herself with his body and the eggs (maybe with some high born prisoners too) and hatch the eggs as she did in the original story. If her baby son also dies she certainly would do it. And 3 dragons would change the balance of power considerably
I have a good hypothetical question to explore for ya: What if the Night King was actually Rhaegar Targaryen brought back to life by the Children of the Forest and he's been gathering strength and armies to lay waste to all who had moved against himself and his House? 1. He wouldn't have been the first they did this for, and Targaryens are "magical" so the Children of the Forest would find him "special" and possibly be intrigued by him. 2. His armor was encrusted with magical rubies which could have had something to do with it. 3. His drive to return south makes more sense if he has a purpose other than "bringing winter with him." His ambition becomes much more clear as you watch the Wights and Others make their way south. He wants to win his ancestral castle back, as well as the Red Keep, and avenge the murders of his bride Lyanna and newborn child (he would not know Jon is alive) and his entire family's massacre. 4. It would also explain all those weird lulls between Jon Snow and the Night King because they are actually father and son and neither know it. However, they have a strange sense about the other, because they are both Targaryen and kin, hence those lingering moments without attack.
Well, he was cremated, which is the custom for House Targaryen and also convenient to keep his burial site or relics of his body from being artifacts to rally supporters, so you'd need a really good reason to not take that critical precaution if you want him to come back. Secondly, the Night King is Show BS. There is no indication of a leader of this sort in the books. In that source, the Night King was a renegade Lord Commander of the Night's Watch (hence the name) who seems to have made a bargain with the Others for power. He was merely a human doing their bidding. If we are going with the show's canon, IDK what is the point. The Night King was not a character per se. He had no personality or motivations or agency that we know of. So you can't really say how things would be different if Rhaegar resurrected was leading them.
@flavius5722 Oberyn's sister Elia was married to Daenerys' brother Rhaegar. So that would make Daenerys Oberyn's sister-in-law. But, given that their respective brother and sister are dead, there is probably no more in-law relations between them.
@@ThreeEyedTheoristOn horse or not Dotraki sieckels and arrows are usles against westerosi armour and lances would give a huge advantage to the knights
not all Westerosi soldiers are clad in plate armor, most of them are levies wearing little to no protection. Even among knights, full plate armor is expensive and relatively rare outside of wealthy houses. The Dothraki arakhs and bows, combined with their skill as horse archers, would easily cut down the majority of Westerosi soldiers who lack proper armor or training. exploiting weaknesses and overwhelming opponents with speed and precision, The Dothraki don’t rely on single combat, they thrive on speed, strategy, and overwhelming their enemies, archery, and mobility. Westerosi knights, while armored, are slow and less adaptable compared to the Dothraki. it's absurd to claim they would stand no chance. Their weapons and tactics are far from being useless, especially not against armies that are often poorly equipped and disorganized.
@@Aydan2108 Yes they are , in westeros the majority of the solders wears armour , not knight armour but still , their armies are standardize , which would be imposibile în the real world medieval era , but so are dragons And the mongols did wear armour while the dotraki dosent, în Essos most of peoples dosent wear armour, it seems that the world didnt evolve everywhere the same , again is just fantasy but it has his own rules
I'm not one for theory crafting, but this was very well done! I liked the scenes because it felt genuine to the characters, unlike the actual show writers and their theory crafting as I call it.
There's no way Robb and Tywin would team up that's so ridiculous 😂😂😂 Robb would love Dany showing up that practically garauntees his independence because there's no way dothraki can conquer the north with winter coming.
@ThreeEyedTheorist oh yeah the riverlands would be screwed. Flat plains and rolling hills, perfect terrain for the dothraki. The only kingdoms they couldn't conquer would be the north and the Vale, and maybe the iron islands depending on their naval strength
Commenting before watching the video. Dothraki are essentially mongols (in the books they DO have armor, too), but I'll use the "white comanche" of the tv show for this. The biggest problem the mongols had in history was sieges. They relied on subjugated Chinese and Koreans for that tech. They did not have the skills for it but they adapted. Sieges would grind the khalasar to dust. Plus a 40k strong cavalry needs a LOT of supplies. Warhorses cannot function on grazing alone (and there probably won't be grazing ground sufficient enough for them in Westeros, especially in the frigid North). So after the first few losses and raided and pillaged towns the Westerosi would do what the Hungarians did. Eliminate the superior mobility of the enemy by forcing them to siege a fixed position. And bleed them dry by having flying columns harassing the siege camp. Then rinse and repeat. Daily. Untill the lack of spoil and illnesses of a siege camp take a toll on the nomadic dothraki. Dragons are out of the question since the only reason dany has dragons is because she walked into Drogo's pyre with the eggs. No pyre, no dragons.
I think if Drogo survived and if they made it to Westeros, they would not be there long before being wiped out. Castles provide a great defense against cavalry. With no siege weapons , very little supplies, and no way to breach a fort. They will not last long against Westeros. Especially if Twin, Rob, or Stanis were up against them. Without armor archers can pick off many from the walls, since the fight on horse, any terrain not flat and open are not ideal cavalry, and with out siege engines you are not breaking into any castle. Plus if the try to go against the Vale, the North, or Kings Landing. All will be a death sentence to them.
The rebelion started because of the mad king not because Rhaegar and Lyana, it would had happend anyway no matter what Rhaegar was already married and Lyana was promised to Robert
But those were mostly on foot and on duels. At a charge when you gain enough momentum it could be possible or if it hits a point where the armor is weakest
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@Aydan2108 really? GRRM tells of they’re powerful, but it’s mostly informed ability What have they actually accomplished? Dothraki are an undisciplined horde, that disdains armor Unsullied are former slaves, castrated before puberty, severely limiting testosterone and preventing them from developing full upper body strength. They have no training as leaders or tacticians Raiding unarmed villagers, killing decadent slavers, and routing mercenaries isn’t the same as conquering and holding territory As this video showed, without the dragons, Dany’s cause is pretty hopeless
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If Dany's husband had lived and she hatched her dragon eggs, her son would have lived and Drogo would have made sure the two would not have been stabbed in the back. Drogo would have invaded Westeros either way since the poisoning attempt.
I don't see the Westoros armies allying to fight Drogo. I see Robb and his Northern armies waiting for him to win and mopping up the survivors while the Baratheon brothers continue to fight between them. Why would Robb or Baylon march south to defend Lannister lands? That makes no sense.
Dany and Drogo would have so many issues deciding where to go. He would have never let her have those slaves. Free them. Their ideals are too different.
I could see Dany either going sicko mode and working from Dorne or she could retreat back o Essos though I feel like with Oberyn here she will go the first path
@ You know, based on historical battles, and Game of Thrones (show purely here as I’ve not even gotten to Kings Landing yet in the books ☠️) Drogo got lucky as shit he encountered Renly first as he’s arguably the only Commander whose name isn’t Joffrey who should beat Drogo, but is cocky/arrogant enough to mess around long enough to actually lose lol Joffrey would either win cause of Tywin commanding his armies, or coming in as backup, or get utterly humiliated when Khal Drogo becomes King Drogo Matter of fact, for shits and giggles let me talk about the other commanders in the war of five kings: Stannis the mannis Baratheon, no elaboration is needed, this dude would hear the Dothraki are coming and already have a plan, a backup plan, and two contingency plans for his plan and backup plan Robb Stark, he may be the Young Wolf, and forever young, but he’s the first dude in decades to defeat Tywin Lannister in a battle, he was a full on strategic and tactical genius when it came to warfare and he was probably the only king who had a legitimate shot at his ambitions (which most think was the iron throne, nah, even in the books I know that shit ain’t right, it’s definitely Northern Independence and his sisters back) He remains undefeated in the field as well, according to Tyrion Lannister
@@pwnanubasaurus2950 if it was so impotent a threat than why do they take it seriously in book 1? Why does the deal get set up in the first place for the Targargens if it's not important? Khal Drogo was the initial lynch pin to their retaking the throne (though I figure the Gold Companions would have been the ace/closer)
@ If I remember correctly, Eddard Stark is also hailed as the most honorable man in Westeros, yet he was labeled a traitor with nobody batting an eye except The North You see, this is the thing in not just Game of Throned, but real life too, the Dothraki are called unbeatable in a open field, which most Westerosi kingdoms are just that, open fields, it’s less they were scared of the Dothraki but more because of their reputation and legacy It’s like how Stannis keeps saying he’s Azar Ahai reborn, and yet he’s done nothing to prove he’s Azar Ahai and based on the prophecy in the show, he’s accomplished nothing of what’s supposed to be done by Azar Ahai People can say something, or be scared of stuff, doesn’t mean it’ll be true or is true
I don't think they could have, Dani wouldn't have been able to conquer the way she did without her Dragons and her grief. Plus, she was considered a foreign usurper as is, Drogo would be first in command. Even more of a foreigner. None the less, Drogo and Dani forever! 😭
We better get a continuation of this. Seems to me like Oberyn may be a prime candidate for a husband to Danny. She'll need to retreat to Dorne and lick her wounds, but what then??
What if Robb joind Stannis What if Stannis won battle of ice. What if Vale joind Robb. What if dorne joind Stannis. What if Tywin survied what if Tommen survied what if joffrey survied. What if Viserys named Aegon heir
What’s I Find very interesting is the dragons can still be born in this timeline. And if they are, well, Westeros won’t be prepared this time if they can be kept hidden.
@mokarokas-1727 same way they were born in-canon. When she burns Drogo's body, she can put the dragon eggs in the fire. I doubt she'll carry them into the fire herself, since in canon in the books she was actually trying to commit die when she did that and now she has her son, but I can't imagine it wouldn't work still.
@@noratheweeb9387 Although the whole thing is described by GRRM as somewhat of a miracle, Mirri being burned seems to be crucial. But I guess one can write around that, for the sake of a cool scenario which the dragons hatching definitely is. Hey, how about Melisandre? ;)
@mokarokas-1727 tbh, Melisandre is a bit of a wildcard. If she can be caught and burned (which would work with the set up here, since she killed Drogo) that would work really well. She's magic to boot so it might be perfect, tbh. But even if he doesn't go the route of burning Melisandre, she'd have an interesting story to pursue in the case of the dragons being born. They are fire given form, so she'd definitely be in the "did I side with the wrong person" mindset, given the Lord of light is kinda synonymous with fire and our favorite khaleesi is now suddenly mother to three dragons, fire literally made flesh.
Robb, Tywin, and Stannis teaming up would be like Lebron, Kawhi, and the late Kobe teaming up. You might aswell surrender, because they’re nearly unstoppable
At this point George should just hire someone off YT to write Winds of Winter because some of the content I’ve seen on here is far better than the nothing we’ve gotten from him….
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What if Jon Snow LEFT The Night's Watch and JOINED Rob Stark, reached the amount of like for a part two
That’s the next one , posting on Wednesday !
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Killed for betraying his vows
Drogo surviving is one of the classic what-ifs of this story :)
Robb, Stannis, Tywin alliance is the most cursed alternate Westerosi history scenario
Yeah, seriously. I would sooner believe Robb allies with Drogo/Daenerys, if he gets to keep the North (Riverlands slightly more iffy).
@mokarokas-1727 I think you underestimate the prejudice against foreigners in Westeros though. Much as Robb hates the Joffrey, I think the threat of Foreign Invaders supersedes that.
@@crimsonECH1DNA That's mostly true, but there was a lot of isolationist sentiment in the North at the time. I'm also thinking of a vision Daenerys had about the Five Kings, where the wolf-headed one representing Robb "watched her with quiet appeal" (or something to that effect).
The northerners were fighting for Robb to be an independent king of the North and Riverlands. He didn’t want a targeryan ruling the north after everything the north had suffered under the targeryans. Robb, Stannis, and Tywin alliance is the most likely thing to happen during the war of the 5 kings
I love the introduction of Oberyn in this video. I've never seen a more Oberyn Oberyn ever.
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Regardless of what anyone says, there are 2 places that dany and drogo CAN NOT conquer, The North and The Vale. For The North, even in warmer seasons, it would be far colder than the dothraki sea, even during winter in the sea, not to mention how the population of the north is so dispersed and the frigid climate would mean that there isn’t enough supplies for the dothraki to raid to support the khalasaar. And that’s even assuming they can get past the neck. Imo the combination of the cold and enviorment of a swamp filled with venomouse and disease carring insects and reptiles, fucking alligators, and the cranegmen shooting shit covers blow darts at them would absolutly cripple the dothraki by the time the get through it. And as for the vale… literally the only reason aegon was able to get them to bend the knee was because he had a fucking dragon which, with drogo surviving, dany would not have
Idk, barren deserts and grass lands get pretty damn cold during the winter, the lack of moisture does mean that the Dothraki Sea wouldn't get any snow, but it also means there would be less of a greenhouse effect keeping heat trapped in the area, even during the summer deserts get below freezing during the night, during winter they're like that all the time. For a good example from another great show, did you ever think it was weird how characters in Breaking Bad were always wearing coats and 3 layers despite being in the New Mexico desert? That's because while that show was filmed around Albuquerque NM, it was mostly filmed during autumn and winter, the actors were genuinely cold and even had hand warmers in their pockets in a lot of scenes.
Very interesting
There is no place in Westeros that the dotraki can take , they have no chance ,remember that moment when Drogo personal guard was killed by Jorah because his sickle cant penetrate westerosi armour , yeah that is what would happen would all dotraki în westeros, their weapons are usles against knights
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Great points! And logic one cannot argue.
Without Dragons, the technology gap is too great. The Dothraki are an army made up entirely of near unarmored light cavalry and mounted archers with bows and curved swords completely useless against plate armor, IDC how AGILE they are, they are getting smoked, even by Renly's brigade of boys playing at war.
Westeros had plate armor, archers(longbow & crossbow), pikes, lances, trebuchets, Wildfire(at KL) and Castles/Fortresses. The Dothraki are somewhere between the Mongols and Comanche but FAR closer to the Comanche since they were more concerned with taking useless trophies and slaves than incorporating captured tech into their warfare style.
not all Westerosi soldiers are clad in plate armor, most of them are levies wearing little to no protection. Even among knights, full plate armor is expensive and relatively rare outside of wealthy houses. The Dothraki arakhs and bows, combined with their skill as horse archers, would easily cut down the majority of Westerosi soldiers who lack proper armor or training. exploiting weaknesses and overwhelming opponents with speed and precision, The Dothraki don’t rely on single combat, they thrive on speed, strategy, and overwhelming their enemies, archery, and mobility.
Westerosi knights, while armored, are slow and less adaptable compared to the Dothraki.
it's absurd to claim they would stand no chance. Their weapons and tactics are far from being useless, especially not against armies that are often poorly equipped and disorganized.
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The idea that Drogo would positively respond to Oberyn is ridiculous
What if all of Rhaella’s failed pregnancies that occurred between the births of Rhaegar and Viserys, produced live healthy children?
There's a whole mess of Targs in exile and Dany is the bottom of the pile. From a destiny standpoint, they probably all die out one way or another before she gets to the point where she hatches the eggs. Having more children was not going to change the Rebellion. Aerys is not going to be more sane if his kids all survive, or if he is sane, he's going to piss off the nobles at some point. The man kicked off his reign by appointing a mass-murdering war criminal as his Hand. Rhaegar is still going to be looking for his extra dragon head from a source that provides the Ice for the song of ice & fire, which means Lyanna, which means trouble with the Starks & Baratheons, that Aerys is not going to handle well, and we get the Rebellion. The only possible difference is if one of the middle kids is old enough to repudiate his father & brother's actions, and side with the rebels, he might become their king, although in this scenario, a king with more limited power and a parliament of some sort to check it.
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No dragons and no unsullied, sorry but the dothraki would be wiped out. They are light cavalry shock units at best, easily defeated by shield walls and pike columns. Renly's forces were 100k strong. Additionally the weather and terrain of the stormlands would be a bad place for them to start their invasion, they would have better luck rolling into the westerlands or the southern reach first.
This becomes chaos when young griff eventually invades too
You mean Aegon VI?
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That always would have made sense to me, too.
The Last Lord Tarbeck would be more accurate
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Drogo's men are too poorly armored to stand against knights, archers, and crossbowmen. Lances would give the knights an advantage in a charge as well. The Dothraki may be based on Mongols, but Mongols wore body armor and used seige weapons. This would end quickly outside of the Dothraki doing hit and run raids on villages.
thats why they got barriston and some of the stormlands soldiers. With dorne support its not just horseback fighters
@@wolog1454That's not at all what the video said , and the stormlands would never fight for the dotraki after they burn their Village, and Dorne will never join Danerys if she is already married with a savage , if Doran dind't join the war of the five kings just for revenge he will not join her either
@@flavius5722In the books Doran tells his daughter basically that he is not joining the war of five kings bc he is waiting for Dany to come to westeros
@@planettimn Under the condition of a marriage alliance , if Khal Drogo is alive there is no mariage alliance
@@planettimn then sends her to Storm's End to see if Young Griff is truly Aegon.
Really neat to hear this alternative story line (with no Dragons). I suspect with all the death going on, there won't be enough defences against the Night King.
Keep up the good work 😊😊😊! Suggestion: What if aerys died in Duskendale
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Woah this is was a really good video! Would love a part 2!
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What if Arya gave Tywin’s name as one of her three at Harrenhall?
I think with Drago dead Dany might try burning herself with his body and the eggs (maybe with some high born prisoners too) and hatch the eggs as she did in the original story. If her baby son also dies she certainly would do it. And 3 dragons would change the balance of power considerably
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I have a good hypothetical question to explore for ya:
What if the Night King was actually Rhaegar Targaryen brought back to life by the Children of the Forest and he's been gathering strength and armies to lay waste to all who had moved against himself and his House?
1. He wouldn't have been the first they did this for, and Targaryens are "magical" so the Children of the Forest would find him "special" and possibly be intrigued by him.
2. His armor was encrusted with magical rubies which could have had something to do with it.
3. His drive to return south makes more sense if he has a purpose other than "bringing winter with him." His ambition becomes much more clear as you watch the Wights and Others make their way south. He wants to win his ancestral castle back, as well as the Red Keep, and avenge the murders of his bride Lyanna and newborn child (he would not know Jon is alive) and his entire family's massacre.
4. It would also explain all those weird lulls between Jon Snow and the Night King because they are actually father and son and neither know it. However, they have a strange sense about the other, because they are both Targaryen and kin, hence those lingering moments without attack.
Well, he was cremated, which is the custom for House Targaryen and also convenient to keep his burial site or relics of his body from being artifacts to rally supporters, so you'd need a really good reason to not take that critical precaution if you want him to come back.
Secondly, the Night King is Show BS. There is no indication of a leader of this sort in the books. In that source, the Night King was a renegade Lord Commander of the Night's Watch (hence the name) who seems to have made a bargain with the Others for power. He was merely a human doing their bidding.
If we are going with the show's canon, IDK what is the point. The Night King was not a character per se. He had no personality or motivations or agency that we know of. So you can't really say how things would be different if Rhaegar resurrected was leading them.
"you see, it's like poetry. it rhymes"
I loved this alternative scenario! 😍😍😍😍👏👏👏👏👏🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸
Interesting conception, I like it as I always wanted Khal Drogo to survive
I love your content! May I suggest what if Edmure Tully was informed of Rob's plan to Trap Tywin forces.
Barristan Selmy: such a f**king legend that multiple houses switch sides just because he is serving Daenerys
This one was very interesting and I would love a part 2. It’s interesting to think what the future in this timeline would be
Need a part 2, maybe this time Amon can make it to Dany from the wall, give her some familial connection
And now we need a part 2 (don’t forget she has dragons egg)
I too would love a part two!
I need a part two.!❤
What if Daenerys stayed in Essos(both what she would do and what her absense would cause)
Oberyn joining forces with his sister in law Daenerys. YES!
What sister în law ,în this alternative she is already married with Drogo
If he didnt get involved în the war of the five kings he would neither now
@flavius5722 Oberyn's sister Elia was married to Daenerys' brother Rhaegar. So that would make Daenerys Oberyn's sister-in-law. But, given that their respective brother and sister are dead, there is probably no more in-law relations between them.
Dothraki are crushed by armoured Westerosi Knights. Jorah and Barriston showed this in the books.
In duels and on foot yes, in the open field , different story I think
@@ThreeEyedTheoristOn horse or not Dotraki sieckels and arrows are usles against westerosi armour and lances would give a huge advantage to the knights
not all Westerosi soldiers are clad in plate armor, most of them are levies wearing little to no protection. Even among knights, full plate armor is expensive and relatively rare outside of wealthy houses. The Dothraki arakhs and bows, combined with their skill as horse archers, would easily cut down the majority of Westerosi soldiers who lack proper armor or training. exploiting weaknesses and overwhelming opponents with speed and precision, The Dothraki don’t rely on single combat, they thrive on speed, strategy, and overwhelming their enemies, archery, and mobility.
Westerosi knights, while armored, are slow and less adaptable compared to the Dothraki.
it's absurd to claim they would stand no chance. Their weapons and tactics are far from being useless, especially not against armies that are often poorly equipped and disorganized.
@@Aydan2108 Yes they are , in westeros the majority of the solders wears armour , not knight armour but still , their armies are standardize , which would be imposibile în the real world medieval era , but so are dragons
And the mongols did wear armour while the dotraki dosent, în Essos most of peoples dosent wear armour, it seems that the world didnt evolve everywhere the same , again is just fantasy but it has his own rules
@@flavius5722 no they don't, most of them are smallfolk and they don't wear armor, and at best they would be wearing leather.
If Drogo lives, Daenerys does not dominate all the Dothraki @ Vaes Dothrak & has a small force.
Agreed, without him dying it changes EVERYTHING. They would never work with John and the north either.
@@jasonvazquez2563why would they work with them?
I'm not one for theory crafting, but this was very well done! I liked the scenes because it felt genuine to the characters, unlike the actual show writers and their theory crafting as I call it.
Include Faegon Targaryen + Euron + White Walkers in pt2 pls
There's no way Robb and Tywin would team up that's so ridiculous 😂😂😂 Robb would love Dany showing up that practically garauntees his independence because there's no way dothraki can conquer the north with winter coming.
Yeah I agree, the north would be safe. But how about the riverlands ?
@ThreeEyedTheorist oh yeah the riverlands would be screwed. Flat plains and rolling hills, perfect terrain for the dothraki. The only kingdoms they couldn't conquer would be the north and the Vale, and maybe the iron islands depending on their naval strength
Sooooo cooooolll!!!!!!!
This needs a part 2
Second part!!
Man, even in this alt universe we can't get away from Stannis.
Commenting before watching the video.
Dothraki are essentially mongols (in the books they DO have armor, too), but I'll use the "white comanche" of the tv show for this.
The biggest problem the mongols had in history was sieges. They relied on subjugated Chinese and Koreans for that tech. They did not have the skills for it but they adapted. Sieges would grind the khalasar to dust. Plus a 40k strong cavalry needs a LOT of supplies. Warhorses cannot function on grazing alone (and there probably won't be grazing ground sufficient enough for them in Westeros, especially in the frigid North).
So after the first few losses and raided and pillaged towns the Westerosi would do what the Hungarians did. Eliminate the superior mobility of the enemy by forcing them to siege a fixed position. And bleed them dry by having flying columns harassing the siege camp. Then rinse and repeat. Daily. Untill the lack of spoil and illnesses of a siege camp take a toll on the nomadic dothraki.
Dragons are out of the question since the only reason dany has dragons is because she walked into Drogo's pyre with the eggs. No pyre, no dragons.
Please never change the background music.
The man is called Cortnay Penrose. This is the second video where I noticed you saying something like "Contray"
Thanks 🤝
@@ThreeEyedTheorist 👍🤝
I think if Drogo survived and if they made it to Westeros, they would not be there long before being wiped out. Castles provide a great defense against cavalry. With no siege weapons , very little supplies, and no way to breach a fort. They will not last long against Westeros. Especially if Twin, Rob, or Stanis were up against them. Without armor archers can pick off many from the walls, since the fight on horse, any terrain not flat and open are not ideal cavalry, and with out siege engines you are not breaking into any castle. Plus if the try to go against the Vale, the North, or Kings Landing. All will be a death sentence to them.
15:13 Khal Jorah 😂
I love these so much!! Can I throw my hat in? What if Peter Baelish never started the lie that Rheagar graped Lyanna.
The rebelion started because of the mad king not because Rhaegar and Lyana, it would had happend anyway no matter what
Rhaegar was already married and Lyana was promised to Robert
Only thing I dislike is the arakhs being able to get past plate armor since it’s shown they can’t
But those were mostly on foot and on duels. At a charge when you gain enough momentum it could be possible or if it hits a point where the armor is weakest
@@quadeong7453The knights use lances the dotraki did not
What if yohn Royce rebelled and got the vale to aided Rob stark. Dont know if you take ideas but worth a try lol.
Wow, I love this what if and I would love to see that actually made if so much action I could imagine seeing those battles if I was a billionaire I most definitely would pay to make that into a show thank you
Drogo probably overwhelms most men in westeros by the sheer power of his manly auroa like haki in one piece
Dotraki weapons are usless agains westerosi armour and Jorah had shown that
If we’re being honest, Dany’s army was hard carried by the dragons (as was Aegon the Conqueror, but I digress)
No it wasn't, the Dothraki and the unsullied are very powerful
@Aydan2108
really?
GRRM tells of they’re powerful, but it’s mostly informed ability
What have they actually accomplished?
Dothraki are an undisciplined horde, that disdains armor
Unsullied are former slaves, castrated before puberty, severely limiting testosterone and preventing them from developing full upper body strength. They have no training as leaders or tacticians
Raiding unarmed villagers, killing decadent slavers, and routing mercenaries isn’t the same as conquering and holding territory
As this video showed, without the dragons, Dany’s cause is pretty hopeless
when is the next video coming it has already gotten 3000 likes?
@@aritrabanik2706 next week !
@@ThreeEyedTheoristwhen is it coming out? Sorry but I am just excited
@@banikaritra5328 should be 01/10 :)
Hell yeah, the stallion who mounts the world, now will ride a dragon!
And will be killed I the first battle they have în westeros, this video dosent know anything about military
You on a generational run
What if jon snow joined the second sons instead of going to the wall?
I am just sharing, this story does not try to poke holes at the content creator at all.
I am 34, working nightshifts,due to financial problems, i got to work.
I became sick this friday and kept on working (securit guard in a factory) since the place is empty in the weekends.
Today (sunday morning) after a nightshift, i drove home while listening to this video and fell a sleep on the wheel.
I don't know how i am alive right now,and i don't know how i didnt got any injury. I was on the right lane,and steered while sleeping to the left,then woke up when my car steered through the fence to the other drive lane, car wasn't working by that point and the car just dragged it's way all through 3 lanes into a wall.
Miracolusely i didn't hit anyone and didnt crash to any moving object.
I don't deserve to say it, but i got scott free from the crash
Glad you're ok.
When I'm driving and I'm tired I place something to sing out loud, even if i don't like it. To wake me up.
@@coffeesnob3778 because of the sickness i didn't even realised i was tired, just felt pain surges in random places in my body, still sick, and i am without hunger. today i slept the entire day, even tough i wasn't tired. this sickness is insane.
i usually put something to sing to as well to keep the blood pumping through rides when i am tired
I just feel like Renly would still be dead by the time Dany shows up
Please do a part 2
Honestly the best thing Khal Drogo ever did for the world of Game of Thrones is die.
You should do "What if Jon Snow wasn't resurrected" or "What if Roose Bolton stayed loyal"
The starks bends the knee because they are Smart, but if we take the Winter wolfs in Perspektive 1000 old man gave the reach nightmares
If Dany's husband had lived and she hatched her dragon eggs, her son would have lived and Drogo would have made sure the two would not have been stabbed in the back.
Drogo would have invaded Westeros either way since the poisoning attempt.
What if Arthur Dayne joined Robert's Rebellion ?
I don't see the Westoros armies allying to fight Drogo. I see Robb and his Northern armies waiting for him to win and mopping up the survivors while the Baratheon brothers continue to fight between them. Why would Robb or Baylon march south to defend Lannister lands? That makes no sense.
Dany and Drogo would have so many issues deciding where to go. He would have never let her have those slaves. Free them. Their ideals are too different.
I could see Dany either going sicko mode and working from Dorne or she could retreat back o Essos though I feel like with Oberyn here she will go the first path
Renly:
I have 100,000 knights
Drogo:
I got plot armor… Also Renly was idiotic enough to fight me in a open field
Yeah everyone in on the news was afraid of having to fight a Dothraki horde back in season 1
Only Ned tried to ignore it because "horses can't swim"
@ You know, based on historical battles, and Game of Thrones (show purely here as I’ve not even gotten to Kings Landing yet in the books ☠️)
Drogo got lucky as shit he encountered Renly first as he’s arguably the only Commander whose name isn’t Joffrey who should beat Drogo, but is cocky/arrogant enough to mess around long enough to actually lose lol
Joffrey would either win cause of Tywin commanding his armies, or coming in as backup, or get utterly humiliated when Khal Drogo becomes King Drogo
Matter of fact, for shits and giggles let me talk about the other commanders in the war of five kings:
Stannis the mannis Baratheon, no elaboration is needed, this dude would hear the Dothraki are coming and already have a plan, a backup plan, and two contingency plans for his plan and backup plan
Robb Stark, he may be the Young Wolf, and forever young, but he’s the first dude in decades to defeat Tywin Lannister in a battle, he was a full on strategic and tactical genius when it came to warfare and he was probably the only king who had a legitimate shot at his ambitions (which most think was the iron throne, nah, even in the books I know that shit ain’t right, it’s definitely Northern Independence and his sisters back)
He remains undefeated in the field as well, according to Tyrion Lannister
@@pwnanubasaurus2950 if it was so impotent a threat than why do they take it seriously in book 1? Why does the deal get set up in the first place for the Targargens if it's not important?
Khal Drogo was the initial lynch pin to their retaking the throne (though I figure the Gold Companions would have been the ace/closer)
@ If I remember correctly, Eddard Stark is also hailed as the most honorable man in Westeros, yet he was labeled a traitor with nobody batting an eye except The North
You see, this is the thing in not just Game of Throned, but real life too, the Dothraki are called unbeatable in a open field, which most Westerosi kingdoms are just that, open fields, it’s less they were scared of the Dothraki but more because of their reputation and legacy
It’s like how Stannis keeps saying he’s Azar Ahai reborn, and yet he’s done nothing to prove he’s Azar Ahai and based on the prophecy in the show, he’s accomplished nothing of what’s supposed to be done by Azar Ahai
People can say something, or be scared of stuff, doesn’t mean it’ll be true or is true
But that would mean no Dragons
Oberyn is always the hero. no matter what story he's in.
I don't think they could have, Dani wouldn't have been able to conquer the way she did without her Dragons and her grief. Plus, she was considered a foreign usurper as is, Drogo would be first in command. Even more of a foreigner. None the less, Drogo and Dani forever! 😭
We better get a continuation of this.
Seems to me like Oberyn may be a prime candidate for a husband to Danny. She'll need to retreat to Dorne and lick her wounds, but what then??
Great fan fic. How did Rob Stark got through the Twins? In your version he did marry the Frey's granddaughter?
Missed opportunity to hear your dothraki
Part 2 please.....
What if Robb joind Stannis What if Stannis won battle of ice. What if Vale joind Robb. What if dorne joind Stannis. What if Tywin survied what if Tommen survied what if joffrey survied. What if Viserys named Aegon heir
Oh Tommen! I loved him.
What if Sansa was betrothed to Theon before Robert got to Winterfell?
What’s I Find very interesting is the dragons can still be born in this timeline. And if they are, well, Westeros won’t be prepared this time if they can be kept hidden.
But how would they be?
@mokarokas-1727 same way they were born in-canon. When she burns Drogo's body, she can put the dragon eggs in the fire.
I doubt she'll carry them into the fire herself, since in canon in the books she was actually trying to commit die when she did that and now she has her son, but I can't imagine it wouldn't work still.
@@noratheweeb9387 Although the whole thing is described by GRRM as somewhat of a miracle, Mirri being burned seems to be crucial. But I guess one can write around that, for the sake of a cool scenario which the dragons hatching definitely is. Hey, how about Melisandre? ;)
@mokarokas-1727 tbh, Melisandre is a bit of a wildcard. If she can be caught and burned (which would work with the set up here, since she killed Drogo) that would work really well. She's magic to boot so it might be perfect, tbh.
But even if he doesn't go the route of burning Melisandre, she'd have an interesting story to pursue in the case of the dragons being born. They are fire given form, so she'd definitely be in the "did I side with the wrong person" mindset, given the Lord of light is kinda synonymous with fire and our favorite khaleesi is now suddenly mother to three dragons, fire literally made flesh.
What if Jamie Lannister was never captured.
Robb, Tywin, and Stannis teaming up would be like Lebron, Kawhi, and the late Kobe teaming up. You might aswell surrender, because they’re nearly unstoppable
A random fleet destroys them
What if Viserys survived
What if robert just sent a Message to drogo challenging him to one on one combat
I'm waiting to seeing a what if the blackfyres win the first rebellion
At this point George should just hire someone off YT to write Winds of Winter because some of the content I’ve seen on here is far better than the nothing we’ve gotten from him….
Please make your own version of game of thrones season 7 and 8
Request from India
What if Jon never joined the nights watch and joined Ned
Here's a good one. How to beat the Dothraki?
Step one : wear armour
Step 2 : unecesary ,they are all already screwed
Before his sisterwife fell, why didn’t Aegon extinguish house Martell just as he did house Hoare
Part 2