Definitely agree I don't think Dany wins her crusade against the Free Cities. Aegon, his sisters and the three dragons never managed to bring Dorne to heel. I don't think this late version of Dany who effectively lost her most competent advisors would win her conquest in the long term. With that said, the only thing I disagree with is I really don't see a scenario where Arya carries out a sentence against Jon. Since this was going off the show, Arya wanting nothing more to do with the 7 Kingdoms and even then, given that her family's death sent her spiraling, I can't really see her being on board with killing Jon.
I agree, and honestly, I don see Jon as being judged to be wholly guilty. He was a loyal servant in this tale and quite often, the ones who were just following orders can find themselves spared. Selmy, for example. Jon is an honorable man and as someone who is honor-bound, I don’t see others judging him to be the guilty party. If anything, he will be guilty of following the wrong queen. He wasn’t killed in the show, either, despite being the one that was fully responsible for the death of Dani. I also wonder whether at some point he would feel forced to divide from her, regardless of if he kills her. Possibly, she leaves for Essos and he tells her Westeros is his home and that he refuses to leave. I don’t see him coming with her, possibly even using the reasoning that she needs someone trustworthy to lead while she’s away. And who better to rule than the last Stark male and partner of the Queen? Maybe she convinces him to hold a marriage of sorts to solidify her position, bring him legitimacy enough to rule in her stead, and bind her to the people of Westeros. I doubt that, however, as he sees it as inappropriate with her being his aunt. Possibly a sham marriage, but no more.
Maybe, and I mean just maybe, if Dani didn't burn everything and everyone,, he could understand the Targaryen way through tje red keep and the citadel! Also, if they did the show with the leaked scripts, that had Daenerys pregnant and jagen hahar in kings landing, he would have married Daenerys due to their child and he would have protected her at all costs!
I can see Dany not winning the whole war but I do think your Dorne comparison is rather bad as the reason Dorne survived was they fled into the deserts to hide, the Free Cities lack that ability
@@theonlychickensama8353 Perhaps this time it's Tyrion. Never said he couldn't fight. Perhaps as the golden son he is the one named to the kingsguard to spite Tywin.
Ok, but if Tyrion keeps his intellect can Jaime keep his Skill and be a badass dwarven Warrior? Maybe with a Spear? Maybe he befriends Oberon as a child who teaches him to even the playing field with Poison Spear.
I think Tyrion is only an intellect because he had no other choice since he was never going to be as skillful as Jaime due to his size. If he was not a dwarf, he would probably be a pompous ass like all the other rich nobles.
There's no way Jon gets executed by his own family. Everything else is fine. Danny can't take over the world, though I would hope that she would see reason before it's too late; but Arya killing Jon is absolutely wild to me.
@ no, we would’ve gotten crap just like the marvel and Star Wars shows and the CGI would’ve been horrible, just be happy that the show we got is the best one out of all the outcomes
This is actually perfect. If this was the ending to the show it would still be talked about. Your an amazing writer cant wait to see where your career goes
@@ThreeEyedTheorist Really! Most "what if game of thrones" only brush the surface (quite annoying). But you go in deep. Keep it rolling and we will keep listing!
He would have told his family about cersei and Jamie. Still wouldn't have stopped the seeds Littlefinger planted. But Brans fall played right into his game, I don't think it would have worked
This will soon be one of the biggest Game of Thrones channels on UA-cam! Putting in my request for “What if Jon Snow took the Iron Throne after the Long Night?”
This was on point. Daenerys goals were always vague and idealistics, it always made me mad how she put herself outside this "whel" thou she was the head of one of the great westerosi houses
This makes more sense than the show's ending, though i believe Volantis too would have fallen. In the books the slaves are just waiting for Danaerys to appear to revolt en masse, and Mantarys is right down the road from there. The remaining four free cities with their mercenaries and the rebel westerosi can probably still grind her down to a halt - but not with Tyrion in command. He's a good politician but proved himself an incompetent general running Danys invasion of westeros. If anything he's a handicap to the slavers lmao.
I really liked this, but I don’t think that Arya would just kill Jon. Like I get that Arya has changed over the course of the show but her killing Jon wouldn’t happen, considering she has so little family left it just seems like a stupid decision on her part also she loves her brother and out of all of her siblings she was closest to him. But aside from that, I think you did a good job and should definitely make more of this.
@@princessjoanna8245 Especially given the near constant civil wars, corruption and the fact Westeros don't really have an army (unless I'm mistaken, there's no Westeros army, the only armies I kinda remember from the show are those from each noble houses fighting each other).
You're a braver storyteller than I, to try and salvage the steaming mess of season 8! Tyrion went out like an absolute boss. But I can't picture Arya and Sansa executing Jon Snow. He's still King in the North, and probably one of the few people who has a snowball's chance of reuniting the Seven Kingdoms.
Spineless to the very end - seems in character with season 7-8 Jon Snow but not consistent with his proven character which is that he is loyal to his people and his sisters. He betrayed both Ygritte and Daenerys to protect his blood.
I once thought of a theory of Daenerys being resurrected by Kinvara. She decides to rule Essos from the Temple of the Lord of Light in Volantis but a sorcerer from Asshai By The Shadow and his coven who worship the Great Other invade the east intending to corrupt Daenerys and cast the known world into darkness. Most of this I based on H.P. Lovecraft's "The Call of Cthulhu" who I imagine is similar to the Great Other, a destructive deity who has a cult awaiting his return to destroy the world. This story was also a favorite of George R R Martin's
I absolutely love the video but I think Jon Snow getting executed by his own sister / cousin it's kind of stupid and absurd I can't say I agree with the outcome of the scenario but I really enjoyed it your channel is becoming one of my most favorite channels
The least realistic part of this is that Jon would've murked her or at least abandoned Daenerys like 10 minutes into the video just from a sheer humanitarian POV
Yes I will. For some reason it wouldn’t let me do it for this one. The previous videos should all have subtitles! Check back on this one in an hour and I’ll try to put it in
Season 8 was just lazily written fan fiction anyhow, so I won't be indulging FanFic of FanFic, but I hit Like and clicked on it so you'd get your views as I like what you do. It's just we all know the REAL GoT ended with Season 7.
Very true , I’d argue even the end of season 6. You can clearly tell the difference in dialogue, directing, and overall scene selection comparing 1-6 and 7-8. Appreciate you
I really liked this what if scenario, because for me the fact that Thereon was chilling in Bravos came really unexpected, also the fact that he got himself killed by Daenerys, only to kill her Dragon
Honestly, I'm fine with the idea they had in the show. I just don't like how rushed it was and the aftermath. They should've had a proper build where Daenerys' crusade further drags her into madness to the point that she's even attacking cities without slavery because she's convinced that they profit from slavery. At some point, rumors begin to quietly spread that she isn't the true heir. This, combined with her rising dislike among Westeros and even her army, creates tension in the kingdom, causing Daenerys to escalate her grip. This all eventually leads to Jon killing her when she shows no intention of changing her ways. And when Grey Worm attempts to take him, he finally acknowledges his true name and place as a Targaryan. While a few still try to kill him. They are easily stopped by supporters of Jon's claim. Thus, the rightful king is ine the throne for the first time since Aery's death, and the Targaryan madness is brought to an end since Jon's upbringing as a Stark has molded him into a man worthy and capable of leading
Believable until Arya executes Jon. No chance. Her and Sansa fought to keep him alive. They wouldn't kill him. If he's captured and brought to them, they'll say he'll be kept in the North for life and shipped off back to Winterfell. They wouldn't let him be executed
i disagree, knowing Jon's identity and letting him know their concerns, plus seeing what happened at kings landing and Jon still went along with Daenerys and everything she wanted to do, despite his sister's concerns.... I think she most certainly would. In her mind, Jon was lost and there was no turning back
What if Robb joind Stannis What if Stannis won battle of ice. What if Vale joind Robb What if Aemond killed Dameond What if Greens won dance of dragons. What if Tywin survied what if Viserys invaded westeros with dohraki. What if balon attacked westerlands. What if dorne joind Stannis. What if edmure killed mountain
If Jon didn't kill Dany... Then Arya would have done it.. using the face of Qarth (essos) mercenaries. Begins of the new Game of Thrones season or Conqueror of the World. Jon & Grey worm conquering the world for their deceased love.
Arya executing Jon ruined it, doesn’t make sense at all even with how broken and irrational things were by late season 8
This is fast becoming my favourite channel on youtube. Amazing content, keep up the great work!
appreciate it!! will deff keep it up 😎
@@ThreeEyedTheorist
Yes please
Definitely agree I don't think Dany wins her crusade against the Free Cities. Aegon, his sisters and the three dragons never managed to bring Dorne to heel. I don't think this late version of Dany who effectively lost her most competent advisors would win her conquest in the long term.
With that said, the only thing I disagree with is I really don't see a scenario where Arya carries out a sentence against Jon. Since this was going off the show, Arya wanting nothing more to do with the 7 Kingdoms and even then, given that her family's death sent her spiraling, I can't really see her being on board with killing Jon.
I agree, and honestly, I don see Jon as being judged to be wholly guilty. He was a loyal servant in this tale and quite often, the ones who were just following orders can find themselves spared. Selmy, for example. Jon is an honorable man and as someone who is honor-bound, I don’t see others judging him to be the guilty party. If anything, he will be guilty of following the wrong queen. He wasn’t killed in the show, either, despite being the one that was fully responsible for the death of Dani.
I also wonder whether at some point he would feel forced to divide from her, regardless of if he kills her. Possibly, she leaves for Essos and he tells her Westeros is his home and that he refuses to leave. I don’t see him coming with her, possibly even using the reasoning that she needs someone trustworthy to lead while she’s away. And who better to rule than the last Stark male and partner of the Queen? Maybe she convinces him to hold a marriage of sorts to solidify her position, bring him legitimacy enough to rule in her stead, and bind her to the people of Westeros. I doubt that, however, as he sees it as inappropriate with her being his aunt. Possibly a sham marriage, but no more.
Maybe, and I mean just maybe, if Dani didn't burn everything and everyone,, he could understand the Targaryen way through tje red keep and the citadel! Also, if they did the show with the leaked scripts, that had Daenerys pregnant and jagen hahar in kings landing, he would have married Daenerys due to their child and he would have protected her at all costs!
I can see Dany not winning the whole war but I do think your Dorne comparison is rather bad as the reason Dorne survived was they fled into the deserts to hide, the Free Cities lack that ability
What if Jaimie and Cersei had been born Dwarves but Tyrion was born normal size (Tyrion keeps his intellect)
Wait then who stops the mad king?
@@theonlychickensama8353 Perhaps this time it's Tyrion. Never said he couldn't fight. Perhaps as the golden son he is the one named to the kingsguard to spite Tywin.
Ok, but if Tyrion keeps his intellect can Jaime keep his Skill and be a badass dwarven Warrior? Maybe with a Spear? Maybe he befriends Oberon as a child who teaches him to even the playing field with Poison Spear.
@@washingtoncommandcenter5541 Perhaps it would be up to whoever decides to do the what if.
I think Tyrion is only an intellect because he had no other choice since he was never going to be as skillful as Jaime due to his size. If he was not a dwarf, he would probably be a pompous ass like all the other rich nobles.
I don't think Arya would kill Jon
Never happen
There's no way Jon gets executed by his own family.
Everything else is fine. Danny can't take over the world, though I would hope that she would see reason before it's too late; but Arya killing Jon is absolutely wild to me.
can you rewrite season 8? would love your story telling on how it should have ended
YESSS!!!
What if George Martin finished the books before the show was ever made?
Then would’ve gotten a worse show since we likely wouldn’t have the same actors
@@RandomMackem0069_Officialso we would have fallen in love with other actors.
@ no, we would’ve gotten crap just like the marvel and Star Wars shows and the CGI would’ve been horrible, just be happy that the show we got is the best one out of all the outcomes
What if george finish the books.
What if George Martin finished the books?
Your content is genuinely top tier. First thing I watch on my sub list is your channel every time. Sparking my love for GoT again ❤🎉
The highest praise, appreciate you saying that!! Hope I can keep it up for you 🤗❤️
This was absolutely fantastic and so much better than the crap we’ve gotten from D&D. We need a part 2!!
What if Daenerys listened to Quaithe and goes to Ashai
This!
Unfortunately for Jon, At that point she was just too far gone.
Found this channel first, seen every video. Been binging your star wars videos last couple days. Now im here since this video has dropped
Welcome!! Glad you’re liking content from both channels :)
Whats his other channel?
Darth theorist , it’s in the home channel page !
@@ThreeEyedTheorist thx you brother ill check it out ima.huge star wars fan and love whats ifs
Keep it up I'm always looking forward to your vids 😁
Glad to hear it!! Stay tuned for friday and sunday!
What if Daenerys lost NO dragons?
I hated Jon for that he became a queen slayer & kinslayer all in one
This is actually perfect. If this was the ending to the show it would still be talked about. Your an amazing writer cant wait to see where your career goes
thank you!!
Great video my man! Let's stay on this topic, what if Daenerys remembered Daario was still in Meereen?
Love your content ❤❤❤❤
thanks!!
Been loving your channel man keep it up 🔥👍
Appreciate it!
Always love listening to these during my workouts, keep it up!
Also, a suggestion: What if Robert sent Joffrey to Winterfell to be Ned’s ward?
What if Rhaegar married Lyanna instead of Elia 😊😊😊
The deepness of you stories is what makes them great... Keep it up! ❤
Thank you!!
@@ThreeEyedTheorist Really! Most "what if game of thrones" only brush the surface (quite annoying). But you go in deep. Keep it rolling and we will keep listing!
What if Bran never fell…or rather…didn’t get paralyzed? 🤔
He would have told his family about cersei and Jamie. Still wouldn't have stopped the seeds Littlefinger planted. But Brans fall played right into his game, I don't think it would have worked
This will soon be one of the biggest Game of Thrones channels on UA-cam!
Putting in my request for “What if Jon Snow took the Iron Throne after the Long Night?”
This the one I been waiting for
What if the three eyed theorist was teleported into the westeros and took the body of The Prince of martell in the main series
😂
Your voice is very soothing
What if Tyrion didn't get the chance to kill Tywin?
What if Tyrion died while at the Vale?
This was on point. Daenerys goals were always vague and idealistics, it always made me mad how she put herself outside this "whel" thou she was the head of one of the great westerosi houses
"Choose your enemy wisely, for you eventually become him". Sun Tzu
That was such an amazing what if scenario! That ending 💯
This makes more sense than the show's ending, though i believe Volantis too would have fallen. In the books the slaves are just waiting for Danaerys to appear to revolt en masse, and Mantarys is right down the road from there.
The remaining four free cities with their mercenaries and the rebel westerosi can probably still grind her down to a halt - but not with Tyrion in command. He's a good politician but proved himself an incompetent general running Danys invasion of westeros. If anything he's a handicap to the slavers lmao.
Three Eyed Theorist on an ALL TIME RUN right now!!!
🎉🎉😎
Then they bring order to the Empire and rule the galaxy as father and son.
😂
What if Oberyn won againts the Mountain
What if Khal Drogo never died?
Or what if he died before he killed her brother?
I really liked this, but I don’t think that Arya would just kill Jon. Like I get that Arya has changed over the course of the show but her killing Jon wouldn’t happen, considering she has so little family left it just seems like a stupid decision on her part also she loves her brother and out of all of her siblings she was closest to him. But aside from that, I think you did a good job and should definitely make more of this.
Very interesting
I hate this what if the premise sucks at the start reminds me to much of the show. Love the channel tho still giving the vid a thumbs up.
These be feeling like better outcomes
22:42.....................😔😞👍 bro is the goat.......
Bro can you please make your own version of game of thrones season 8?
What if when Brianne and pod ran into the hound and aria, they went together instead of fighting
What if Gaius Julius Caesar legions found Westeros instead of Britannia?
Well they didn't "find" Britain, they were well aware that it was there.
I that time, Roman legions would have crushed every westerosi army with ease.
@@princessjoanna8245 Especially given the near constant civil wars, corruption and the fact Westeros don't really have an army (unless I'm mistaken, there's no Westeros army, the only armies I kinda remember from the show are those from each noble houses fighting each other).
You're a braver storyteller than I, to try and salvage the steaming mess of season 8!
Tyrion went out like an absolute boss.
But I can't picture Arya and Sansa executing Jon Snow. He's still King in the North, and probably one of the few people who has a snowball's chance of reuniting the Seven Kingdoms.
Spineless to the very end - seems in character with season 7-8 Jon Snow but not consistent with his proven character which is that he is loyal to his people and his sisters. He betrayed both Ygritte and Daenerys to protect his blood.
You need to do one where the writers weren't stupid and Dany never went Mad Queen. I hate how stupid they wrote her once she got to Westeros
what if jon snow pressed claim to become king?
Can you put subtitles in this video please?
I once thought of a theory of Daenerys being resurrected by Kinvara. She decides to rule Essos from the Temple of the Lord of Light in Volantis but a sorcerer from Asshai By The Shadow and his coven who worship the Great Other invade the east intending to corrupt Daenerys and cast the known world into darkness.
Most of this I based on H.P. Lovecraft's "The Call of Cthulhu" who I imagine is similar to the Great Other, a destructive deity who has a cult awaiting his return to destroy the world. This story was also a favorite of George R R Martin's
I absolutely love the video but I think Jon Snow getting executed by his own sister / cousin it's kind of stupid and absurd I can't say I agree with the outcome of the scenario but I really enjoyed it your channel is becoming one of my most favorite channels
The least realistic part of this is that Jon would've murked her or at least abandoned Daenerys like 10 minutes into the video just from a sheer humanitarian POV
Est il possible d’activer les sous-titres pour la vidéo s’il vous plaît
Yes I will. For some reason it wouldn’t let me do it for this one. The previous videos should all have subtitles! Check back on this one in an hour and I’ll try to put it in
Ok merci
I guess Danny did win, she did the lethal blow to slavery that culminated with the death of the greatest slave owner of Westeros - herself
Something to consider, since John had been resurrected, does that mean he can't have any children.
What if Ned Stark sent Joffrey Waters to the wall?
ayoo he back
If Jon didn’t kill Dany, possibly Bran and Sansa would rise up against her then Arya would assassinate her..
Awesome video, but Arya putting Jon down because of this seemed a little out of character
Is Jon king or king consort? Does he share the throne with Dany or is he her consort?
It would make him king consort , but that’s a mouthful, so just said “king” in the video
I would of been more happy if the series ended like this 😂
me too
What if Jon claimed the iron throne after the sack of King's Landing?
What if kahl drogo survived?
What if Joanna Lannister survived her pregnancy.
George already answered this question himself and she would’ve protected and loved Tyrion
What if Sansa ran away with the Hound during the battle of Blackwater?
What if you make a change to this story at the last moment Daenerys consider seeking terms like Tyrion suggested
What if John Snow remained King in the North and didn’t devolve into mA qUeEn
What if Olenna was the one accused of poisoning Joffrey instead of Tyrion
Sansa would totally betray Jon Snow as she has time and again, but Arya never would! That's the only flaw in this what if!
Wasn’t the magic guy from quarth dead by this point? Cause I remember a baby drogon lighting him on fire.
Yeah we just put his face on the screen just to represent a “Qarth emissary”
Season 8 was just lazily written fan fiction anyhow, so I won't be indulging FanFic of FanFic, but I hit Like and clicked on it so you'd get your views as I like what you do. It's just we all know the REAL GoT ended with Season 7.
Very true , I’d argue even the end of season 6. You can clearly tell the difference in dialogue, directing, and overall scene selection comparing 1-6 and 7-8. Appreciate you
Please do what if Night King won the Battle of Winterfell when you can 💙
Hmmm you know I’ve thought about that, but doesn’t that seem one dimensional? I feel like if he wins the battle of winterfell he just kills everyone
@ThreeEyedTheorist Maybe, but then imagine how the rest of Westeros would try to resist them and fight them
Kinda wish Jon rushed to her and managed to get her out barely. And he helps her snap out of her insanity.
What if Elia Martell and Rhaegar’s children escape instead of Rhaella and her children?
Or
What if all 4 children escape Kings Landing?
I really liked this what if scenario, because for me the fact that Thereon was chilling in Bravos came really unexpected, also the fact that he got himself killed by Daenerys, only to kill her Dragon
Really good story bit if i am honest i like it more if you stick to book "what if´s"
Honestly, I'm fine with the idea they had in the show. I just don't like how rushed it was and the aftermath. They should've had a proper build where Daenerys' crusade further drags her into
madness to the point that she's even attacking cities without slavery because she's convinced that they profit from slavery. At some point, rumors begin to quietly spread that she isn't the true heir. This, combined with her rising dislike among Westeros and even her army, creates tension in the kingdom, causing Daenerys to escalate her grip. This all eventually leads to Jon killing her when she shows no intention of changing her ways. And when Grey Worm attempts to take him, he finally acknowledges his true name and place as a Targaryan. While a few still try to kill him. They are easily stopped by supporters of Jon's claim. Thus, the rightful king is ine the throne for the first time since Aery's death, and the Targaryan madness is brought to an end since Jon's upbringing as a Stark has molded him into a man worthy and capable of leading
What if Arya killed Cersei instead of going north
What if John was a twin,and Val is his sister? Taken north by Authur Dayne (who didn't die).
What if Danaerys had all 3 dragons at the end of the series?
If dragons are so easy to kill, how where they ever a problem for anyone?
Up until the Dance of Dragons the small folk saw them on the same level as deities
Believable until Arya executes Jon. No chance. Her and Sansa fought to keep him alive. They wouldn't kill him. If he's captured and brought to them, they'll say he'll be kept in the North for life and shipped off back to Winterfell. They wouldn't let him be executed
What if Jacaerys survived the Battle of the Gullet?
There is no scenario where Arya kills Jon
i disagree, knowing Jon's identity and letting him know their concerns, plus seeing what happened at kings landing and Jon still went along with Daenerys and everything she wanted to do, despite his sister's concerns.... I think she most certainly would. In her mind, Jon was lost and there was no turning back
The unsillied 😂
What if Drogo lived and invaded westeros 👀
Coming this weekend actually, already written 👀
The only thing i disagree with is Sansa and Arya killing Jon
What if Robb joind Stannis What if Stannis won battle of ice. What if Vale joind Robb What if Aemond killed Dameond What if Greens won dance of dragons. What if Tywin survied what if Viserys invaded westeros with dohraki. What if balon attacked westerlands. What if dorne joind Stannis. What if edmure killed mountain
If Jon didn't kill Dany...
Then Arya would have done it.. using the face of Qarth (essos) mercenaries.
Begins of the new Game of Thrones season or Conqueror of the World.
Jon & Grey worm conquering the world for their deceased love.
Jon would have gone back to the North, no way Sansa would let him be executed let alone have Arya be the one to do it
No way Arya is gonna ever kill Jon. 😅
What if the Tyrells offered to Stanis Loras for a consort in secret.
I can see it happening
I mean in regards to his daughter
Wait Stannis or Renly?
What if aegon was able to heal Valeria
What if daemon and caraxes lived
What if littlefinger killed brandon stark in there duel
What if obery was married to cersei?
I mean tyrion is a little oc from the final seasons
What if Viserys lived
what if rheagar married cersei ?