Good series. People don’t know how truly hard it is to shoot a pistol. I went from shooting the floor and stand at 15 yards to hitting a zone in 2 years . Took a while but I’m always learning.
Most people don’t even understand what it means to actually be proficient with a pistol. Tens of millions of casual gun owners that think shooting deltas at 15 yards with no timer is good shit.
Thanks for the excellent video of Scott's instruction. I had his two day class a couple week's ago and he is a great teacher and drill master. I highly recommend Scott's classes.
Thanks for sharing this content. Your contents inspired me to sign up for Jedi's course. We seem to be around the same size, so I share the sentiment about grip methods in the past that just didn't seem to work for my hands .
I took this class a few months ago, and there is so much info in the class. This is a great refresher for sure, and I could not agree more, Go Take The Class. I would 100% pay to take the class a second time. Without a doubt well worth the money spent.
I've always wanted to take the MSP RDS course, but each video of this series makes me want to take one more and more! I definitely have to get in on one next year!
You did a great job with this video. Yes it was very helpful. I know it takes a lot of time to put it together. Again Thanks. I hope to get to one of his classes.
I’ve watched this video multiple times… then took Jedi’s class with AI Hunter Freeland. One day after the red dot instructor class and rewatching this video… I look at this video 100% differently. Time to get to work! Jim, thanks for taking this video
Thanks for sharing this with us Jim. And shout to Scott for amazing work. It’s tough to get into his classes so these help a lot. Will keep trying though!
I’ve been VERY lucky personally, I watched him over and over a few years ago and somehow got my grip almost identical to his. Honestly that’s not intentional, it’s just what works. Still need a class in person but I’ve got a good start Lol thanks Jim!!
Great video. I guess I don’t get the idea of a wave forward but then up and back. I’m taking his class in March 23, so hoping to understand more then. Thanks for sharing
I feel like you're doing a very good job on this- Scott's classes local to me have sold out in literally minutes, but I am hoping to get one in this year. Subscribed!
So yeah. The grip definitely works and works extremely well. It’s odd having the support hand do 90% of the work. But I’ve never been more consistent or accurate accurate. I’m a convert.
I made the highlight reel! I still have work to do on getting a consistent grip on the gun. I had a great time hosting Jedi and look forward to being in class again!
Does Jedi “knock” those that have a thumbs forward grip? I guess more of where our wrist are torqued forward. His thumbs are more vertical than I’ve grown accustomed to.
This is excellent content and info. Appreciate you sharing it. Just the little I've seen has greatly improved my shooting. Need to sign up for a class soon.
Love the theory and physics behind your grip. That said, I have small, gnome hands for a dude (damn genetics!). It's hard to get a solid wrap as you describe but do pretty good job. How do you keep from shaking as you squeeze and push your palms together?
New to fire arms bro. Whit the high grip on the non dominant hand, will the blowback action of the slide hurt your thumb resting on it like he shows in beginning ?
Is there some isometric pressure created? Since the web of dominant hand is rolling up into beaver tail of pistol while the support hand index finger acts like a rigid surface to press against…
The pinky pressure he talks about is the support hand or firing hand? Torquing my wrist like he does and pushing my drumstick into the grip creates an issue with pinky pressure on support hand. My pinky on firing hand is strong though. Hoping that is where pinky pressure is supposed to come from… ?
He helped me a ton with finding the when I draw but I disagree that the thumbs have no part in the grip. If you can cut accelerator cuts in the gun why not use the strongest digit. It helps keep shots from pulling left too
Very effective grip. Can you tell me if the strong hand thumb is consciously pressing down on the support hand thumb area or is pressure in this area just a consequence of pushing / pinching up into the tang with the strong hand?
Hey Donald, for what it's worth, and super late, the thumbs do nothing. I've heard either Scott and/or many other instructors warn about using your thumbs. If you wanna get technical, manual safety guys use the safety as a gas pedal. Etc. Otherwise, your shooting hand thumb shouldn't be doing much.
@@kdworak4754 Thanks! I gave the relaxed thumbs a try at the range and I am now shooting tighter groups. I had a tendency to pull follow up shots to the right probably caused by unequal thumb pressure. The gun also tracks straight back down on target after each shot.
I can always tell when instructors have taking a class with Shrek and use the marking of the hands method. If it looks stupid but works, it ain’t stupid. Any good instructor should learn about marking the hands to help grip and teach it
I think the whole point he is making is that getting pressure behind the bore axis is more important than below it, which is what happens when you press your thumb on the frame. I can dig it. Feels weird but makes sense
I always got picked on for having my thumbs up, (learning on thumb safety guns) and never pushing with thumb on the frame in my support hand. Now, after I have changed ALL my grip to do so, I find out I might have been onto something...
@@MellowFellowOfYellow Nope. You need to trap the bore axis above it with the drumstick of your palm, below it with your pinky, and behind it with your palms sealed. All are equally important.
@@ModernSamuraiProject excellent instruction. I wish I would have learned this 25 years ago and I’ve taken multiple classes. The recoil management has always been my issue through the grip. I’m going to have to see where and when the pistol class is held.
Good series. People don’t know how truly hard it is to shoot a pistol. I went from shooting the floor and stand at 15 yards to hitting a zone in 2 years . Took a while but I’m always learning.
It’s definitely a skill that requires consistent work
Most people don’t even understand what it means to actually be proficient with a pistol. Tens of millions of casual gun owners that think shooting deltas at 15 yards with no timer is good shit.
@@josephsantana3094 We have a saying up here in Canada, if the police say "stop or we will shoot" keep running cause they're not going to hit you lol.
@@Albertalorian 🤣
@@Albertalorian Here in Austria it's even more likely that the cops will shoot each other or some innocent bystander than some goon running from them.
This man is a natural teacher and I appreciate your coverage of this course so much.
Thanks for the excellent video of Scott's instruction. I had his two day class a couple week's ago and he is a great teacher and drill master. I highly recommend Scott's classes.
I've stopped procrastinating and signed up for his class later this year. Now I'm really looking forward to it.
Thanks for sharing this content. Your contents inspired me to sign up for Jedi's course. We seem to be around the same size, so I share the sentiment about grip methods in the past that just didn't seem to work for my hands .
I took this class a few months ago, and there is so much info in the class. This is a great refresher for sure, and I could not agree more, Go Take The Class. I would 100% pay to take the class a second time. Without a doubt well worth the money spent.
How much does one of his classes cost?
@@austinharris1059 $600 for the two day course
@@ben_3256 thank you
I've always wanted to take the MSP RDS course, but each video of this series makes me want to take one more and more! I definitely have to get in on one next year!
I would recommend signing up as soon as you can
You did a great job with this video. Yes it was very helpful. I know it takes a lot of time to put it together. Again Thanks. I hope to get to one of his classes.
I’ve watched this video multiple times… then took Jedi’s class with AI Hunter Freeland. One day after the red dot instructor class and rewatching this video… I look at this video 100% differently. Time to get to work!
Jim, thanks for taking this video
Thanks for sharing this with us Jim. And shout to Scott for amazing work. It’s tough to get into his classes so these help a lot. Will keep trying though!
I’ve been VERY lucky personally, I watched him over and over a few years ago and somehow got my grip almost identical to his. Honestly that’s not intentional, it’s just what works. Still need a class in person but I’ve got a good start Lol thanks Jim!!
Great video. I guess I don’t get the idea of a wave forward but then up and back. I’m taking his class in March 23, so hoping to understand more then. Thanks for sharing
I feel like you're doing a very good job on this- Scott's classes local to me have sold out in literally minutes, but I am hoping to get one in this year. Subscribed!
Thank you for doing this video!
Took Scott’s class a few years ago. He is the real thing.
He is a genius! If I ever get a chance to attend one of his classes I’m in!
I've rewatched this video and others, taken his class and I STILL can't seem to master the wave group!!
Jedi's courses are on my wishlist. These vids only cement that want to take his courses.
Shoot, his class is full for an upcoming class in my area. Hope they come back around because I’d love to take his course.
Fly out if you have to
email them and ask to be put on the wait-list, in case someone has to cancel.
@@thebronzetoo thanks, I’ll do that….that was a pretty common sense approach, not sure why that didn’t cross my mind.
So yeah. The grip definitely works and works extremely well. It’s odd having the support hand do 90% of the work. But I’ve never been more consistent or accurate accurate. I’m a convert.
Great info from this. Thank you.
I made the highlight reel! I still have work to do on getting a consistent grip on the gun. I had a great time hosting Jedi and look forward to being in class again!
More good times!!!!
Pearls of wisdom
Another great video, Jim!! I'm taking Scott's class in Sep and can't wait!!
Outstanding explanation of proper grip
Does Jedi “knock” those that have a thumbs forward grip? I guess more of where our wrist are torqued forward. His thumbs are more vertical than I’ve grown accustomed to.
Thumbs locked forward can work but you are making yourself weaker.
@@ModernSamuraiProject Damn….that’s a hard one for me to break so there’s lots of my own kung-fu when trying to apply your technique. Thanks Jedi!
I wonder how to apply that grip being left handed
Love this!
Really look forward to training with Jedi one day. Great vid .
Well worth it
This is excellent content and info. Appreciate you sharing it. Just the little I've seen has greatly improved my shooting. Need to sign up for a class soon.
@jim's goon life which course was this? I want to sign up but not sure which course to take.
Same. I looked over the schedule and I'm not sure either. But I need help with my grip
Love the theory and physics behind your grip. That said, I have small, gnome hands for a dude (damn genetics!). It's hard to get a solid wrap as you describe but do pretty good job. How do you keep from shaking as you squeeze and push your palms together?
I took his class, its great. These video blocks are great as a reminder.
New to fire arms bro. Whit the high grip on the non dominant hand, will the blowback action of the slide hurt your thumb resting on it like he shows in beginning ?
Is there some isometric pressure created?
Since the web of dominant hand is rolling up into beaver tail of pistol while the support hand index finger acts like a rigid surface to press against…
Great Job Brother! Carry On
What course is this? Is this the red dot pistol fundamental or a different grip focused class?
The pinky pressure he talks about is the support hand or firing hand? Torquing my wrist like he does and pushing my drumstick into the grip creates an issue with pinky pressure on support hand. My pinky on firing hand is strong though. Hoping that is where pinky pressure is supposed to come from… ?
My only problem is when I dry fire, my gun moves to the left or right, and I do not know exactly why
He helped me a ton with finding the when I draw but I disagree that the thumbs have no part in the grip. If you can cut accelerator cuts in the gun why not use the strongest digit. It helps keep shots from pulling left too
Hello, do you ever have classes in Vegas?
Great video thank you
Really enjoying this!
Glad you did more to come
I support you devil dog!! You should of went recon. Broski, these homies shoot amazing!!
How do you sign up for a entry class?
What do you do if you’re lefty?
Very effective grip. Can you tell me if the strong hand thumb is consciously pressing down on the support hand thumb area or is pressure in this area just a consequence of pushing / pinching up into the tang with the strong hand?
Hey Donald, for what it's worth, and super late, the thumbs do nothing. I've heard either Scott and/or many other instructors warn about using your thumbs. If you wanna get technical, manual safety guys use the safety as a gas pedal. Etc. Otherwise, your shooting hand thumb shouldn't be doing much.
@@kdworak4754 Thanks! I gave the relaxed thumbs a try at the range and I am now shooting tighter groups. I had a tendency to pull follow up shots to the right probably caused by unequal thumb pressure. The gun also tracks straight back down on target after each shot.
@donaldhorn3514 well shit... I might have to try it too. I drive my thumb forward for some reason.
I can only find LE classes in the web site. Are all y’all LE?
What was the biggest difference for you from what most instructors show?
Great vid!!
What does cmc mean or did he say cnc? Thanks
Super late reply, but he's saying CMC, which is the carpometacarpal joint, where the "thumb bones" meet the "palm bones" to put it plainly
"You get krav mega" aka a kick in the nuts.
Hahaha
My shooting has improved soo much
Is this guy Jerry Miculek's or James Yeager's prodigy ?
Can you show grip ? That sure would help . Thanks for your time
This grip is key. This is the way
will my support hand thumb get nicked by the slide in fire or lock back?
Will it put it out of battery with the wave grip?
He said, "Ay chingada." 😂😂
haha loved the krav makrap joke
*4:10** Is that Skydiving Legend Geoff K?*
YEESSSSSSS
🤘🏼
I can always tell when instructors have taking a class with Shrek and use the marking of the hands method. If it looks stupid but works, it ain’t stupid. Any good instructor should learn about marking the hands to help grip and teach it
“Is it possible to learn this power?…”
“…Not from a Jedi… I mean, yeah, you can, never mind.”
Hahaha
That’s interesting how his grip doesn’t have his support hand thumb applying lateral or downward pressure to the frame. Never seen this before.
I think the whole point he is making is that getting pressure behind the bore axis is more important than below it, which is what happens when you press your thumb on the frame.
I can dig it. Feels weird but makes sense
I always got picked on for having my thumbs up, (learning on thumb safety guns) and never pushing with thumb on the frame in my support hand. Now, after I have changed ALL my grip to do so, I find out I might have been onto something...
@@MellowFellowOfYellow Nope. You need to trap the bore axis above it with the drumstick of your palm, below it with your pinky, and behind it with your palms sealed. All are equally important.
@@ModernSamuraiProject excellent instruction. I wish I would have learned this 25 years ago and I’ve taken multiple classes. The recoil management has always been my issue through the grip. I’m going to have to see where and when the pistol class is held.
More like modern wizard project
Samurai-wizard? 🤯🤯🤯
I want to take his class so bad, but it’s all sold out 😭😭
I'm old school one hand shooting. No problem hitting center mass in self defense
I have watched this video half a dozen times and I still don't understand his grip.
Joke about krav maga being bullshit? Instant like! Hahaha
What does he mean when he says cmc? 3:00
CMC is the carpometacarpal joint. Where the thumb bones meet the palm bones (near the wrist itself, not the webbing)