I think every dutch person clicked going, "Habits?... which habits do I have" Edit: Cheers for all the likes lads! Hope you had a small chuckle out of this one.
If Dutch people had the mentality of: We're in the neighbourhood, let's drop by, nothing else would be getting done, cause you're always in the neighboorhood of everything and everyone. It's tiny as shit.
Not just tiny, densely populated and deeply connected too. In the neighborhood by American terms could be like all the way across the country in the Netherlands.
"Je moet het gewoon vragen." Ik, 9 jaar oud: Mag ik een snoepje, mevrouw?' Mevrouw; "Kinderen die vragen, worden overgeslagen." Ik: En kinderen die zwijgen zullen nooit wat krijgen!' Zo blij dat ik nu m'n eigen snoep koop xD
Why is the possibility of getting nee so anxiety-inducing then? That's the whole rhetoric: if it's so easy to accept nee without even asking, then it should be even easier to accept nee after asking. Because you tried. If it's so scary to ask because the outcome might be nee, you might as well just ask, because you'll also have nee if you don't try. You see where I'm getting at? It takes the whole power out of the fear of asking something and getting nee as an outcome, because you already have nee by not asking! So shouldn't you actually be afraid of not trying since the outcome will definitely be nee? It's lost its strength by being an overused proverb, but it's actually a beautiful philosophy and way to live by. Overcoming fears is not done by waiting until you're not afraid, it's about being afraid of something and doing it anyway.
Amount of people in the Netherlands: 17.3 Million Amount of bikes in the Netherlands: 23.5 million. We take our bikes everywhere. School, work, shops, underwater in the Amsterdam Canals..
@@jipoudeweernink9364 Just cycle with two bikes, one to sit on and the other one you hold at the centre of the bar-handles. Easy to do with a little practise and if you need to come to a full stop, you now have 4 wheels and can easily balance without taking your feet off the pedal.
The Dutch government does not discourage to get your driverslicense. It discourage you to take the car when it is not necessary. Sorry for being so direct. 😉
Idk man, i don’t ever want anything to do with the CBR (dutch DMV) ever again. Long waits, high prices and terrible service, definitely not encouraging.
I don't even think they discourage us from taking the car. I think that many other countries practically force their citizens to take the car, because (for example) the grocery store is on the outskirts of town, the bus gets stuck in traffic and I don't feel safe cycling on what might aswell be a highway running through a city center. In the Netherlands there's solid cycling infrastructure, allowing you to feel safe and comfortable as you cycle to work. Seperate bus lanes are used where needed, with smart traffic lights that prioritises the bus if it's running late, but doesn't if its early or on time. Dutch cities are designed for pedestrians, not for cars.
Fun fact: Dutch students were so angry that the government stopped the general grant for students that they sent a tikkie of their college debt to the prime minister/ major political party of the country.
for people that don't understand why the Dutch cycle through rain and wind as if it isn't there: it's not that we don't care about the weather, so much that we don't like to get soaked in the rain either. But since the weather in the Netherlands is SHIT alsmost all year long we simply can not afford to stay inside every time it rains outside. We would get nowhere. So everyone just kind of excepts the shitty weather and goes about their day. It honestly goes so far, we can not even use the weather as an excuse for when your late. Say you left the house perfectly on time but the wind was so strong en and it rained so hard you almost got blown off your bike, the teacher won't have it, they'll say that you should've left earlier. it's very sad 😂 Edit: for those dutchies saying the weather isn't that bad at all here. I work at thuisbezorgd so i work outside on a bike 30 hours a week. And it rains at least once a week, usually more, (at least around the fall time) Could ofc be because i live near the sea, but yeah.
Let s be honest, if the weather could be used as an excuse, it would be used all the time. Use the open bridge excuse instead, everyone knows that to be true. ;)
I also think the fact that high school students bike to school no every day, no matter the weather means that once they are older they will just take the bike as well. We're so used to cycling through the rain from a "young" age.
To be fair, the weather really isn't THAT shit all year long. People who say that are usually the people who do not have a habit of cycling or walking (either to from work, or for leasure) every single day. In my previous job we had a habit with a few colleagues of walking for 30 minutes during our lunch break, every single work day, 5 days a weak, all year long. And frankly, the times where we stayed inside because the weather really was too bad (as in: rain; wind or cold alone really wouldn't keep us inside) really was... very rare. Maybe like 10 or 15 times tops in a whole work year. I am assuming we had a random sampling, and the weather wasn't magically good every day around 1 pm, or we were in a city with better than average weather or anything. So my conclusion is the weather really isn't as bad as the mental immage people have in their heads when they only remember the bad days. Most people who cycle to and from work every day will tell you a similar thing: people who always use the car really tend to overstate the ammount of bad weather on a yearly basis.
Dat zegt de staat sinds de IRT AFFAIRE en de Wet Bijzondere opsporings bevoegdheid, "wij zijn zelf de grootste drugsdealer, maar kunnen er niet te veel over zeggen".
Nuraili De Paepe Tikkie is een app die vrijwel iedereen in NL gebruikt om de kosten te splitten. Als je met vrienden uiteten gaat, dan betaalt één persoon en die stuurt daarna een “tikkie” naar de rest om het geld weer terug te krijgen. Los van zijn deel dan.
Funny anecdote being brought up in a Belgian border town: once saw 3 Dutch men split the bill for a single “portie bitterballen” three ways. Such a culture shock :) a few kilometers away over the border me and my friends would be practically arguing about who gets to buy for the others
Another fun saying that is basically the as "Nee heb je, ja kun je krijgen" is "Niet geschoten is altijd mis" which is literally translated to Ïf you don't shoot you'll always miss, and I use that one all the time
@@Roozyj Maar verschillende accenten heb je ook onder de Nederlandse taal. Het verschil tussen het noorden en zuiden bijvoorbeeld. Maar het klonk echt goed voor iemand die niet hier is geboren.
The thing with the planning really depends on the person. With very busy people, you might need to make an "appointment" some time before, but with a lot of people, one or two days in advance is more than enough, especially if you're friends
@@dirtyhannie I never plan anything. EVER. Must be because all my days are wide open. I have 24 hours every day to do as I fucking please! If I ever *do* plan something, it's because the person I'm planning it with, has a busy schedule to follow.
I think the “the Dutch plan everything”. No, maybe certain people, if they work fulltime, but if someone asks me, cogfee tomorrow, or drinks after work, there is a great chance I can make it. And that goes for my friends as well.
I tried the Netherlands for a year and then moved back to Spain where I've been since 2013 because I couldn't deal with the planning culture anymore; it was too frustrating for me not being able to do spontaneous things
@@jorisboonekamp9038 understandable. I have lived near amsterdam all my life and im getting very stressed by this planning culture. I work all week and before the weekend comes around its always been entirely filled up with stuff
I used to think I was terrible at it, but then I found out what was normal in other countries and my brain literally goes: "What? You just drop by without telling them? But what if they're not home? Or busy? Can't you just text them like, hey, wanna hang out tomorrow? Oh, wait. This is exactly what they mean, isn't it? About planning everything...
As a fellow Aussie living in the Netherlands, this is spot on!!! I love, love, love the Dutch and their cultural habits and I'm happy to be influenced by their pragmatism and logical approach to life! Go Dutchies, go!!!
I'm a Dutch person who lived in Australia for 6 months and I thought the people were always being so nice!! I really loved how nice everyone was there. And now you tell me it's actually fake friendly :')
Bless you for actually adapting (or trying really hard by choice!) to the culture you've decided to live in. As a Dutchman myself, I really respect that.
Regarding the planning: The more rural you go, the more relaxed it becomes. It's common in Fryslân to just slip through the backdoor of someone you know well, even if you haven't made any plans with them.
I was wondering where she got the impression that Dutch people even plan their family or friendly visits. To be fair I’m Flemish so this might be different but with friends and neighbours I have never seen my dad make plans for it. Just ooh let’s check if they open the door and let us in.
Zo leuk om van een Australische een mening over Nederland te horen. Nu weet je gelukkig wel waar je over praat, want je hebt hier 4 jaar gewoond. En van wat ik hoor spreek je ook nog aardig Nederlands. Compliment!
There is another saying that pops to mind; Een brutaal mens heeft de halve wereld. Aka, a cheeky person owns half the world. It basically means that a direct person (even for Dutch standards!) can get away with a lot. It really ties into the whole asking culture. Ask for a discount, ask for a bargain, ask for free samples. My poor introverted heart struggles with it, but it's definitely a popular sentiment in the randstad! I love your videos btw, it's very interesting to see my own culture from a different perspective, and to appreciate certain habits I didn't even realise were specifically Dutch :)
The Dutch are 100 my people. I can't stand small talk and I'm always criticized for wanting to plan. Also I go everywhere I can by bike and long for safe infrastructure! Great video. ❤
small talk is something you will find everywhere i think... i am not under the impression that the dutch do less small talk. they are more direct, that's true, but it depends from what region they are. in belgium we are far less direct to strangers and will even take on english politeness, except for those in antwerp. and i think in the netherlands it's certain regions in the south that are more direct in communication. i can appreciate both, being brought up in antwerp and being used to directness and later in live moving more to the east and suddenly being seen as very arrogant (which is shocking for an introvert peacekeeping personality) and having to adjust my way of communication. and the more roundabout polite way to communicate is interpreted as very arrogant in antwerp %-) .
@@therealdutchidiot Klopt, dat gebeurt. Ikzelf vind het wel verschrikkelijk irritant. Niet omdat het antwoord nee is, want vooral met vrienden moet dat juist kunnen. Met goede vrienden moet je alleen óók kunnen zeggen dat je een keer geen zin hebt en dan vind ik het meer een belediging dat iemand eromheen draait. Alsof ik een probleem zou maken als je een keer even een luie avond op de bank nodig hebt. Maar goed, dat zal inderdaad de nuchtere Nederlandse instelling zijn dan denk ik.
Thank you, Casey for being so positive about the Dutch, their culture and language. I highly appreciate it. For me as a Dutchman it is also an eye-opener because it makes me aware of things which are so engrained in my being I did not even realize it is there. Hope to hear more of these observations.
i just came from a call from an American teacher from my school, she kept going "its sooooo nice to meet you" all the time and it kinda weirded me out, i guess thats the fake friendly part in most english speaking countries.
I'm a Dutchie, but also lived in Adelaide for 24 years... one of the things I love about my country is ''de gezelligheid'' ( i.e. cosiness) nothing like 'zullen we een bakkie doen? '' and the flower shops!! no other country can put a bunch of flowers together like here!! just to name a couple of things.
When I was in England for a few months, I would sometimes meet up with other au pairs in the area. We would just go to the local pub. Sometimes, it took a bit longer for me to put the kids to bed and I would be a few minutes late. I always texted them 'Hey, I'm going to be a bit late". When I would then arrive 5 minutes late, they wouldn't even be there yet for another ten minutes, because they didn't see 5 minutes as late. Took some getting used to the other way around :P.
We Dutch people are direct, but not rude I think. When we say: How are you? We mean it and we want to listen. Last year I had a Canadian guest and I thought he was very rude. He was searching my cupboards for food, asking for special drinks (I had a similar drink but it was not good enough) then he got to the supermarket and got the drink and then told us that we cannot drink from it (it was a very sugary drink, so we really did not have an appetite for it) He asked us how much savings we had on our bankaccount, he left his room a mess, really a mess. He was constantly snacking and eating candy and took my children in the early morning to the McD. That is absolutely not normal for us, as we like to eat somewhat healthy 😊 He is a good friend, is intelligent, had a lovely wife with him, has a good job, is about 45 years old and was very much into jokes and very polite (how are you today, oh I love you guys so much) but it still was so rude for us Dutch. We never ask people how much money they have or insist some special products and when we tell someone ‘I love you’ it is very special. They have a place in your heart forever and you go to the end of the earth for them if you have too.
What an interesting experience you had, I can't speak for all Canadians but maybe your dear friend is just like this as opposed to all Canadians being like this. I mean his actions do seem quite rude. I don't find the Dutch rude I like to defend their directness, it makes for good honest conversation and straight to the point. Which is fine by me now that I'm use to it hahah.
klopt enigszins. Vaak is het wel gewoon dat je het vraagt ter gewoonte ipv echte interese. Ik denk dat als je het als gewoonte vraagt dan kort je het meestal af. Dus als in ''hoe ist'', ''hoe gaat ie''. En als je het oprecht vraagt dan is het meer van ''hoe gaat het ermee''
Took me years to reprogramme my head. When in Ireland someone greets you and says "Hi, how are you" or "How's it going" they don't want to know how you're doing, they're just saying hello. The correct response is just "Not too bad, yourself?"
Im peruvian and my best friend is dutch. 100% i can confirm these qualities! I very much appreciate a lot those qualities specially coming from a culture that doesnt tend to plan ahead, goes with the flow and are not very direct. Learnt a lot from her when we talk, I would highly recommend on surrounding with dutch friends, for me they are one of the best advice givers because they dont tell you what you want to hear (like peruvian and latin american culture), but how it is!
Right? I’m Peruvian too, and I’m going to study in the Netherlands next year. I’m already 5 months with my Dutch boyfriend (Long distance), and I have noticed a big change in myself. 😁
What you mentioned is what I hate about my mother (shes from Ecuador). I'll be moving out soon, but I just can't stand her lax attitude regarding things, lack of planning and caring about it (it seems) and the list goes on. Don't get me wrong, I love her a lot, but our differences in culture and behaviour will always clash haha
The cycling and weather are soooo true, I cycle/ bike 45 minutes to school and back everyday. Even when it is raining/ snowing or when the wind is storming.
As a Dutchie living in the U.K., I’m here watching like “how many habits do I still have and apply to life?” ^_^ I definitely still have my directness. Pretty sure I drive my British partner crazy with it. And I wish my partner spoke Dutch as well as you do. I know it’s more difficult if you don’t live in the country, but still.
I grew up in New York State in the U.S.A. New Yorkers have a lot of Dutch habits, especially when it comes to directness. New York was originally settled by the Dutch, so it is clear where the habits come from. My father is Dutch and is a certified cheapskate/frugal (goedkope) and I am the exactly same way, but it is a good habit to have! New Yorkers tend to be very formal, get straight to the point and have no issue with correcting others, and are on-time. One of my father's habits was to mash everything on his plate together into one big pile...he used to say, "It's all going to the same place!" I love the Dutch people and still have lots of family there and hope to live there when I retire. My favorite saying is "Wat je niet hebt kun je niet verliezen" ("What you do not have you cannot lose"}.
I’m Afrikaans and I do a lot of these things as well but I never thought of them as specifically Dutch until now. Good to know as I’m learning Dutch now!
Although yes, getting a drivers license is quite expensive, it's not because the government discourages it. The test you'll have to pass is pretty strict (compared to some other countries), so you have to take lessons before you'd be able to actually pass.
True, but the amount of lessons can vary. From 1 or 2 up to you name. And they have to a number of people fail and also pass. It's not a honest system.
@@hanschouwman4536 True! But I've never heard of anyone who would be able to pass after just 1 or 2 lessons. The average is around 39 hours of driving lessons, which usually costs well over €2000,-
Hi i am now a Dutch canadian, but fifty five years ago i learned how to drive in holland (Rotterdam). it took me two months to get my written test, and another four months for the driver test (twice cancelled because i was at sea). I past. Came to Canada And past both in a hour, they said you can drive in Holland you can drive here.
As a Singaporean, I'm quite surprised how similar we are to the Dutch. I think it's because of how similar they are (I reckon Amsterdam and other major cities are bustling, similar to us) Good to know I can visit it like it's home 😂
I've watched a couple of your videos and i really enjoy and love to see, from your eyes and out of your body language, how happy and enthusiastic you seem about living here!
As a Dutchman who has lived for 2 years in Australia I totally agree with all of your points. Especially the car centric live style (or more the lack of cycling and walking in places) and the beating around the bush was something I just couldn't get used to in Australia.
@@okidoki878 Ja dat gebeurt wel, er komen regelmatig mensen ongepland langs (meestal sturen ze wel eerst een appje oid). Maar in Nederland moet je het veel eerder aangeven als je een feestje geeft dan dat het in Australië het geval zou zijn. Als ik op vrijdagmiddag zou zeggen dat er een borrel bij me thuis was dan, zou in Nederland 20% van de mensen komen aan wie ik het vraag in Australië zou dat 80% zijn. Dan is het wel zo dat als Nederlanders die middag aan zouden geven dat ze zullen komen dan komen ze ook daadwerkelijk, dat moet je bij de Australiërs nog maar afwachten.
@@okidoki878 Het respect voor mensen hun tijd is wel een ding. Ik vind het persoonlijk best vervelend als mensen onaangekondigd langskomen, omdat ik die tijd heb ingepland om even bij te komen van alle andere sociale dingen. Als iemand me appt en vraagt: "hee, is het gezellig als ik even langskom, ik ben in de buurt!" dan zeg ik vaak wel ja, maar als iemand zomaar aanbelt voel ik me wel voor het blok gezet.
@@simont.4633 But also in Australia most of the trips (to supermarkets, schools, sport, etc.) are less than 5 km away and hardly anyone cycles even if it's 1 km away. My experience is that in Australia people live closer to work than in the Netherlands, exactly because cities and towns are too far apart to commute. The biggest problem for me with the car centric live style is that kids don't enjoy the freedom kids in the Netherlands have. Going to school, sport, music lessons, or just to the park it always requires mom or dad to drive them there.
Absolutely love the video! Something I have picked up in a traffic engineering video and noticed because I have been in The Netherlands since I was born is that the reason we can get around so easily with bicycles is because there are special 'routes' which are designated to seperate cars from bicycles as much as possible which is really nice (you can especially notice this with random poles in the roads, they stop cars but bicycles and pedestrians can go through)! Also everything is usually quite nicely packed so that also helps with having to cycle less. Love ya video
I love the fact that bicycles in the Netherlands have their owns lanes and co-exist extremely well with cars on the road, as well as pedestrians. I live in the Louisiana USA now, and riding a bicycle along the roads gets a lot of people killed every year. Car drivers here lack patience! A friend of mine used to bike everywhere and literally would get threatened by people traveling in cars to the point where she feared for her life. I do have one question though.....when someone parks their bicycle in one of the huge bicycle parking lots near the train stations or in a bicycle parking garage, how do you manage to find your bicycle amongst the 50,000 other bicycles parked there?????
During my visits in the US and Canada: "How are you today, Sir?" Not even looking at you, but at the cash register. Not even a glance. That person isn't even remotely interested. Pissed me right off, had urge to say "Why bother even asking if you don't give a rodent's rectum anyway". But decided to stay polite. Although I thoroughly enjoyed my visits, in that regard I was happy to be back home in the Netherlands lol
My partner feels the same way about that greeting, I guess I'm so used to it being used as a long way to say hello that I don't think too much about it I never take it literally as a question. But you are right it's nice to even say hello to someone while looking at them so I'm not sure what there excuse it this still comes across as rude haha
It's true. I worked retail for a long time here in Canada and I never asked how people were because I honestly didn't really care...I just said hello nicely. My managers would often remind me to ask how someone's day was going or ask them how they were doing and it just seems so unnecessary.
Oh if someone asking without caring ill always make them unfomfortable by telling the truth. "Well today not so good. I had bad food yesterday and now I have the shits. Even considering gooing to doctor as there is some blood in my stool. How is your day?" I know its a bit mean. But faking intrest in me also feels mean to me so I just like to confront them with what they are actualy saying and what the consequence can be. :P
Try the cash till ladies at the supermarkets in South Africa who robotically ask " How are you",without the vaguest interest on their faces.At least the male petrol attendants tend to give you a wide smile when greeting one.
I think it’s really great you’re helping people with this channel to get a better understanding of The Netherlands and the Dutch language (being a Dutchie myself)! It’s quite hard to fully understand the language and habits of a certain foreign country at the level of a native person, but when people are putting the effort in it to learn about a country, that is much more valuable than being able to perfectly ‘behave Dutch’ in this case or to speak the language flawlessly 🌟
I liked and subscribed because for me as a born Dutch man living in the Netherlands all his life it is super interesting to listen to how you see and feel our culture. It makes me more aware of my own habits. Thanks and welkom terug in Nederland if you ever come back!
Time is money so we don't have time to bargain with an indian (having to drink three cups of chi and meeting all brothers and nephews selling their rings and stones just to knock of a couple of rupees) :-p
Dutch: ... we just don’t do business with Hindu ... why should we, takes too long, are even more cheaper than Turkish people, so investment gives no gain, at all. Next.
Worked for a Punjabi and they don’t even pay you! At least the Dutch are honest and straightforward. The Indians in Canada are so entitled and think you owe them for having them in the country.
@@caseykilmore Why don't you make a video of experience in Belgium? :) Would be nice (well perhaps now isn't the best time to travel) regarding Dutch in Belgium.
The whole planning/appointment thing is also based on what region you are in and what age group people are in. Spontaneous visits are becoming less and less common as people work more, have more hobbies and spend less time at home. It was completely unheard of to plan a visit back in 1990 (southern Netherlands), now with younger people it's almost a requirement.
This is my 4th video of you that I am watching and I must admit: I fell in love with you. You are smart, you understand us (the Dutch) and you appreciate the little things that make life better. As I see it, you are everthing a man wants.
This is quite an interesting video to watch as a Flemish (Dutch-speaking Belgian) person. About half of these things I can relate to, and the other half is stuff we absolutely don't do. For an example, even though we speak the same language, we're usually a signifigantly more formal and reserved people than the Dutch. Others often call us cold and distant, but I'd say we're moreso non-confrontational and careful in the way we speak. We also dislike being all social with people we don't know and whom we know don't care about us, so we only really open up for our friends.
Totally agree with all of these!! Thanks for the beautiful reminder. I think it's very easy to overlook some of these and step into judgement.So, very timely. Thank you!
Love the way you pronounce your “R". In The Netherlands we call it "een rollende R" (“a rolling R”). In certain arias they use this rolling R, but not where I live. It is wonderful to hear you pronouncing it so well. Wish I could do that (and I am a native speaker, so that is a really good compliment ;-)).
I’m Dutch but I’ve been living in the US now for 35 years. Listening to your video it made me realize how much I have adapted to the US. Wow! It makes me realize why my family in Holland doesn’t always understand my ways and are annoyed at how “relaxed” I am with making plans. I will keep this in mind when I (finally because of Covid) go back to visit my family in Holland.
First experience with my first Dutch colleague - he was very direct in contradicting a point I was making in a meeting. I left thinking he was a bit rude. Later on, he discovered that I had been correct on the point in question - and emailed me to say so, with a cc to everyone else who had been in the meeting. Needless to say, I quickly learned to appreciate the Dutch approach for what it is - direct, forthright, but not rude. I enjoy working with my Dutch colleagues very much and all my time spent in the Netherlands. Second major experience with the Dutch - fast forward several years and my daughter's first boyfriend is Dutch. The main thing she is left with out of the relationship is Dutch-like directness and becomes a total pain in the ass! Ha, ha, but we love her.
as a Dutchie.... yeah I don't plan anything if it isn't major. like moving house, going somewhere for more than 1 days, etc. else it's just "ehh I think I am free then?"
Bedankt voor dit inkijkje in onze gewoontes. Ik snap dat je het zo strak en duidelijk neerzet, maar ook hier zijn onderling wel verschillen. Zo vind ik het persoonlijk erg leuk als mensen spontaan langskomen en dat doen ze bij mij dan ook. Wat in de meeste gevallen wel gebeurt is dat je dan even van te voren checkt of iemand thuis is en of het uitkomt. Maar kom gerust even buurten. Gezellig.
Don't forget about about the curtains. They also must hang neat and exactly equally open. You'll be judged in the neighbourhood otherwise as being unorganized. My mom used to say when she saw my curtains not hanging neat in my bedroom that it was looking like a refugee was living there.😃
You're spot on all on accounts! May I add one thing? We look for bargains very often, but we don't bargain (haggle) very often. In some context it is perfectly acceptable (buying a car) but in many other cases it is frowned upon to bargain for a discount.
The "just stopping by" is a thing that mostly exists in the little villages in dutch culture. I remember being so confused about that when I moved from a small village to a city!
Wilde ik net zeggen, ik woon tegenwoordig in een niet al te grote maar wel nog officiële "stad" (Gorinchem). En ik probeer het wel nog steeds te doen, maar in mijn geboorte dorp is het heel normaal.
Yes the just stopping by, or surprise visits is something I as a Dutch woman appreciate. I love these surprises, makes me feel loved, someone took interest in me and wants to spend some of their time with me! As far as “afspraak is afspraak” is concerned, that is something different. I really hate people cancelling a date unless their ill or something
I think it is a smartphone thing. Then again, cancelling at the last moment is also a smartphone thing. Nothing more annoying than last minute cancellations, I cleared my schedule for you! I could be eating chocolate icecream while reading a good book right now dammit!
3:24 This is not for all Dutch people. Most people do like to plan ahead, but I think outside the busy city life (Amsterdam). People also just drop in like ‘we would like to drink some coffee and we were walking in the neighbourhood’😅
As a dutch person I went to Australian years ago, I needed something from a electronic shop, and asked for a discount if i buy 10. The seller was shocked, and started a big conversation, that as we dutchies sometimes don't want 'Nee heb je en ja kun je krijgen' so if he said No i was ok with it =) So i walked on the street some person asked me : "Hey mate can i have a smoke from you" i said to my wife: 'heb ik met die gast geknikkerd ofzo?' So i said No. He was pretty pissed cuz i said No in our dutchie way. So learend the lesson to say everything the opposite way like 'Sorry mate can't give you one'.
I like to compliment you on your Dutch prononciation of the 'Nee heb je, ja kun je krijgen' sentence. You clearly have been practicing this one. Well done!
I have the thought, that you have been speaking of danish habits. Except for the Be comfortable. For myself I do not like cold weather, but if I have an appointment, I will not cancel it unless a wind is blowing the wrong way ; rain is too hard; the sun is burning too much or snow or something else is blocking my way.
My thoughts: Being direct: You're correct on how our language is built, and we do value it as a society as a whole, but not everyone applies it. I know some fellow Dutchies that are very indirect and speak like they're walking on eggshells. Very annoying. Fake Friendly: Same as before, as a society as a whole we have an aversion to insincerity and fake kindness falls under that, but it's not definitely not universal. My specific example is in the service industry where I worked for several years. Given our Dutch Directness, there can be some extremely unpleasant clientelle, but obviously it's bad for bussiness to mouth off at those people. This results in gritting smiles and holding your temper. Planning: It's very widespread, probably not universal, but it definitely applies to me. If we have a scheduled meeting and you are 15 minutes late without contacting me, I will simply assume you're not coming and drop the appointment. I think as a society we highly value our time and don't appreciate it being wasted. The Weather: Yep, it's irrelevant. If it's sunny it's pleasant, if it's too cold wear more layers, and as we say in the Netherlands "You're not made of sugar, rain won't make you melt.". When it's particularly bad I'll feel like not doing it, but I will still do it begrudgingly. 😆 Be comfortable: Practicality is the key aspect here, we love it in every part of our lives. If it's impractical it's bad. Though I would say women still love dressing up here. Ask for what you want: Kind of overlaps with directness. Can't argue with it. Assuming a no is simply pessimism. I would like to add that asking and assuming you'll get a yes is just as bad. Looking for a bargain: Trading is in our blood. A good trader seeks a mutually beneficial deal. Quite simply everyone who sells something first-hand considers their profit margin and everyone who sells something second-hand is trying to get back as much as possible from the initial purchase. So unless you haggle the scales will always be tipped in the seller's favour. Use the car less: I don't even have one. I can get anywhere in the city within 30 minutes on my bike, and I can just use public transport anywhere else. As a side-note, I love how well-organized your points are. And thank you for the positive vibes about our country. You're welcome anytime!
@8:56 and I was asked by someone close to me why I bought something in a store why it was a bit cheaper elsewhere. Tells you how Dutch I'm not sometimes? That said, I'm also looking up which product I should buy whilst watching this...
Im dutch, i had a friend come over once unnanounced and i was like wtf are u 12 and wnana play in the street get off my bloody lawn Dutch people *ALWAYS* ask if they can come over first before they actually do. Even if its not a work or school day and no one has anything to do. Its just a nice to know when someone is comming over. The time window is usually 15 mins to half an hour or else they would be late. Don't ever come over to a dutch person's house unnanounced, we really feel like its an intrusion of our privacy
Thanks Casey! Fascinating video! I am also an Aussie. Ten years ago I caught up with a Dutch guy that I hadn't seen for 30 years. Literally the first thing he said was "You've put on weight!"
I'm half English and half Dutch but my personality is definitely more Dutch. I always get on well with Germans and I love visiting Germany. High five! 🤠
Wat a great video Casey: thanks for this! Being Dutch, I fully recognize all the Dutch habits you described. Very funny to hear from you how they work for you as well!
Isn't it about the right balance? For me it's an 'in-between' I guess, with all of this (as a Dutch person from the eastern part of the Netherlands)...
Just stopping by is still done, even in the city, however it is disappearing slowly during the last twenty years. Specially the young generation lives with appointments filled diary up to two months or so. So sad!
Yeah, I feel like a lot of young people make their life extremely busy and it's not healthy. It's happened to me often that I want to meet up with someone but they have zero time
10:03 Fory anyone wondering how expensive a license would be in The Netherlands. *The average cost for a license is around 2400 euro (about 3000 USD)* - I pay 70 euro (85 USD) for 1 lesson wich is 1 hour and 30 minutes (depends on the driving school you are in) - You have to get your theory test wich is 35 euros (42 USD) and it is really difficult. (almost everyone fails the first couple of times) - then when you have passed your theory test, you get to do the real exam in a car. its 245 euro (300 USD) to do that. And again. Almost everyone fails the first time. - And when you passed both of your tests, you have to pay around 40 euros (49 USD) concidering you have to take about 20-30 lessons.. you are gonna have to pay A LOT
Yes, it is weird to not have a driver's license in the Netherlands. When you live in a small town and public transport is very limited and not everything is within walking or cycling distance. These videos are always comparing foreign countries to living in a Dutch city but The Netherlands is much more than cities.
You are right there is far more to the Netherlands that the cities but as far as where I was living and even in most of the small villages were my partners parents live you could still get to work/school/supermarket very easily without a car. That would never happen in Australia. You don't know bad public transport until you come here hahaha
@@caseykilmore I'm not saying public transport is bad but it is very limited if you don't live in a big city. There's only two bus lines here and they only go to the two closest cities. To go anywhere else will take a long detour and a lot of extra time. For example: There was no direct public transport route from my home to my previous job. So, to get to work with public transport it would have taken me 1 hour and 40-50 minutes, while it was about a 20 minute drive by car. With another job I had in the past the difference was even bigger. The journey via public transport would have taken me at least 90 minutes, while it was a half hour bike ride and a 10 minute drive by car. That's why most companies that I worked at demanded that I had a car if I wanted to work there. And why practically everyone around here is getting a driver's license when they legally can.
@@timvlaar Not just Friesland. I know from people who live in even smaller villages than mine that public transport completely disappeared there. In that way we're lucky here.
@@gert-janvanderlee5307 Hoi, ik leef al meer dan 50 jaar gelukkig zonder rijbewijs (niet waar sorry, ik heb een brommerrijbewijs. Ik bedoelde dus een auto-rijbewijs).
When I grew up (I'm somewhat older, yes, thank you) it was more normal to just drop by at people's. For instance when I was a student, we had no telephone. Or relatives of my mum, dropping by to make an appointment! But i'm talking 60's- 70's now, so this has changed I guess.
It's very obvious you've lived in Amsterdam, and haven't been to the south. The just dropping by when you're in the neighborhood is common in the south, just not in the big cities in the west. Asking back for money also not in the south. I go out for lunch often with colleagues and we just look at who has paid the last time, it doesn't matter if I pay a little more or less, over the year it'll probably be around the same amount.
I think every dutch person clicked going, "Habits?... which habits do I have"
Edit: Cheers for all the likes lads! Hope you had a small chuckle out of this one.
Yes
indeed ;)
true
yesir
Accurate
If Dutch people had the mentality of: We're in the neighbourhood, let's drop by, nothing else would be getting done, cause you're always in the neighboorhood of everything and everyone. It's tiny as shit.
Hahaha, that is brilliant. xD good point.
Feiten
Not just tiny, densely populated and deeply connected too. In the neighborhood by American terms could be like all the way across the country in the Netherlands.
Oh, we do have that in our family lmao.
Who even has time to drop by. We're all working.
Oh a video about Dutch people.
*Dutch people: Now lets take over the comment section!*
Inderdaad! 😄
gotta colozine everything ya know.
You know it... :))
GEKOLONISEERD
@@DeadliestWarriorZZ You have no idea how dumb it makes you look when you type such a thing.
"Nee heb je, ja kun je krijgen"
Me, a Dutch with social anxiety:
Guess I'll take nee
Dat is echt shit
"Je moet het gewoon vragen."
Ik, 9 jaar oud: Mag ik een snoepje, mevrouw?'
Mevrouw; "Kinderen die vragen, worden overgeslagen."
Ik: En kinderen die zwijgen zullen nooit wat krijgen!'
Zo blij dat ik nu m'n eigen snoep koop xD
Zeg maar nee, dan krijg je er twee
Why is the possibility of getting nee so anxiety-inducing then? That's the whole rhetoric: if it's so easy to accept nee without even asking, then it should be even easier to accept nee after asking. Because you tried. If it's so scary to ask because the outcome might be nee, you might as well just ask, because you'll also have nee if you don't try. You see where I'm getting at? It takes the whole power out of the fear of asking something and getting nee as an outcome, because you already have nee by not asking! So shouldn't you actually be afraid of not trying since the outcome will definitely be nee? It's lost its strength by being an overused proverb, but it's actually a beautiful philosophy and way to live by. Overcoming fears is not done by waiting until you're not afraid, it's about being afraid of something and doing it anyway.
Girl, same!
As a Dutch person, I love watching other people from other countries talk about Dutch culture and be like: YES CAN RELATE
Kan je die ene tikkie van 78 cent nog ff betalen
OMG same
for realllll thoo
absoluut
You do like it don't ya? In dutch they have a word for it:
Zelfpijperij
Amount of people in the Netherlands: 17.3 Million
Amount of bikes in the Netherlands: 23.5 million.
We take our bikes everywhere. School, work, shops, underwater in the Amsterdam Canals..
especially the last one
We put our bike on our other bike to take it to the bike repairman.
@@bramvanduijn8086 How the heck did you do that? Bakfiets?
@@jipoudeweernink9364 Just cycle with two bikes, one to sit on and the other one you hold at the centre of the bar-handles. Easy to do with a little practise and if you need to come to a full stop, you now have 4 wheels and can easily balance without taking your feet off the pedal.
@@DreadX10 ah, of course!
The Dutch government does not discourage to get your driverslicense. It discourage you to take the car when it is not necessary. Sorry for being so direct. 😉
Idk man, i don’t ever want anything to do with the CBR (dutch DMV) ever again. Long waits, high prices and terrible service, definitely not encouraging.
But who decides what is “necessary “, Big Brother?
@@mikeos1 You do!
I don't even think they discourage us from taking the car. I think that many other countries practically force their citizens to take the car, because (for example) the grocery store is on the outskirts of town, the bus gets stuck in traffic and I don't feel safe cycling on what might aswell be a highway running through a city center.
In the Netherlands there's solid cycling infrastructure, allowing you to feel safe and comfortable as you cycle to work. Seperate bus lanes are used where needed, with smart traffic lights that prioritises the bus if it's running late, but doesn't if its early or on time.
Dutch cities are designed for pedestrians, not for cars.
@@nielsdegroot2997 Not Just Bikes made a great video about that!
English: "Hey, would you like to have a beer?"
Dutch: "Biertje?"
plenty of english people who would just ask "beer?"
Eeeeeeh biertje?!
@@wilcotenwolde That reference is for the advanced student or natives above a certain age. It's been years that I've seen that commercial.
Straight, direct, to the point!
@@arthurharpjr7974 Pilsner is more used in German. We do call it Pils though... You can order a "Pilsje" and you'll get a "Biertje."
no body:
dutch person: yo dude can you pay me those 53 cents back *send tikkie*
No one cares about 53 cents lol.
@MonarNL, Geld is geld.
MonarNL uhm 😳
Fucken cancer wouter you owe me 20 cent
@@saem369 ja maar zo erg zijn de meesten ook weer niet, dan wordt gewoon begrepen dat je al geld hebt betaald om daar naartoe te komen
Fun fact: Dutch students were so angry that the government stopped the general grant for students that they sent a tikkie of their college debt to the prime minister/ major political party of the country.
this is hilarious
True! And I totally agree!
@A L doe je dom of snap je het echt niet?
what a load of bullshit
Bahaha this is true, it was hilarious
for people that don't understand why the Dutch cycle through rain and wind as if it isn't there: it's not that we don't care about the weather, so much that we don't like to get soaked in the rain either. But since the weather in the Netherlands is SHIT alsmost all year long we simply can not afford to stay inside every time it rains outside. We would get nowhere. So everyone just kind of excepts the shitty weather and goes about their day. It honestly goes so far, we can not even use the weather as an excuse for when your late. Say you left the house perfectly on time but the wind was so strong en and it rained so hard you almost got blown off your bike, the teacher won't have it, they'll say that you should've left earlier. it's very sad 😂
Edit: for those dutchies saying the weather isn't that bad at all here. I work at thuisbezorgd so i work outside on a bike 30 hours a week. And it rains at least once a week, usually more, (at least around the fall time) Could ofc be because i live near the sea, but yeah.
Also, if you ride to work on your bike every day you would only get wet 20 times per year. On average. Just go and accept if and when it happens.
Let s be honest, if the weather could be used as an excuse, it would be used all the time.
Use the open bridge excuse instead, everyone knows that to be true. ;)
I also think the fact that high school students bike to school no every day, no matter the weather means that once they are older they will just take the bike as well. We're so used to cycling through the rain from a "young" age.
Let me be very direct by saying that you should talk with your hands so much.. It is very indirect and unclear:)
To be fair, the weather really isn't THAT shit all year long. People who say that are usually the people who do not have a habit of cycling or walking (either to from work, or for leasure) every single day. In my previous job we had a habit with a few colleagues of walking for 30 minutes during our lunch break, every single work day, 5 days a weak, all year long. And frankly, the times where we stayed inside because the weather really was too bad (as in: rain; wind or cold alone really wouldn't keep us inside) really was... very rare. Maybe like 10 or 15 times tops in a whole work year. I am assuming we had a random sampling, and the weather wasn't magically good every day around 1 pm, or we were in a city with better than average weather or anything. So my conclusion is the weather really isn't as bad as the mental immage people have in their heads when they only remember the bad days. Most people who cycle to and from work every day will tell you a similar thing: people who always use the car really tend to overstate the ammount of bad weather on a yearly basis.
In dutch we dont say ''I'm a drugdealer", but we say "Ik kan niet teveel praten jwtg" and i think that's beautiful.
think of your own jokes
Hahaha gewoon rechtstreeks van de meme pagina’s gejat moi man
Hahahah
045 Jwz G praten niet veel, geen gezicht geen zaak.
Dat zegt de staat sinds de IRT AFFAIRE en de Wet Bijzondere opsporings bevoegdheid, "wij zijn zelf de grootste drugsdealer, maar kunnen er niet te veel over zeggen".
In Dutch you could have done this video in 1 minute.
🤣
Fully agreed :-) Langdradig noemen we dat, over twee weken zijn we veertien dagen verder.
Dutch people are so simple xD but it is true haha.
@@-BEASTOR- *Efficient 😜
😂👍🏼
No such thing as bad weather, just bad clothing!
True :) Also, if you're not going outside if it's looks like it'll rain, you'd have been stuck inside for over a month by now :s
In some parts of The Netherlands rain is very welcome last couple of years and that’s becoming our standard in the future
I fully disagree, but love the positive attitude!
Oh wow, that just sums it up, doesn't it?
And - in general - it's bad how they dress which makes it easy to spot the Dutch between other nationalities ; ).
“And don’t even start with tikkie” this actually made me laugh 😂 it’s soo true
i'm belgian (dutch speaker) and i have no clue what that's supposed to mean? can someone explain?
Nuraili De Paepe Tikkie is een app die vrijwel iedereen in NL gebruikt om de kosten te splitten. Als je met vrienden uiteten gaat, dan betaalt één persoon en die stuurt daarna een “tikkie” naar de rest om het geld weer terug te krijgen. Los van zijn deel dan.
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Tikkie is now the most Dutch thing I ever heard of 😂 love it. Fond greetings to our northernly neighbours 🇧🇪🇳🇱
Funny anecdote being brought up in a Belgian border town: once saw 3 Dutch men split the bill for a single “portie bitterballen” three ways. Such a culture shock :) a few kilometers away over the border me and my friends would be practically arguing about who gets to buy for the others
Another fun saying that is basically the as "Nee heb je, ja kun je krijgen" is "Niet geschoten is altijd mis" which is literally translated to Ïf you don't shoot you'll always miss, and I use that one all the time
like not buying a lottery ticket etc.
“Nee heb je, ja kun je krijgen.” Virtually no accent! Well done!
"Een nee heb je, maar een ja kun je krijgen." The whole sentence for the people who may wanna find out.😏 aaaand ja maat zij deed prima!
A Dutch accent.
heel erg bedankt :))
Well, there was a bit of an accent, but not an Australian one xD I could never pronounce my 'r' like that xD
@@Roozyj Maar verschillende accenten heb je ook onder de Nederlandse taal. Het verschil tussen het noorden en zuiden bijvoorbeeld. Maar het klonk echt goed voor iemand die niet hier is geboren.
The thing with the planning really depends on the person. With very busy people, you might need to make an "appointment" some time before, but with a lot of people, one or two days in advance is more than enough, especially if you're friends
And some just don't plan at all... I have 3 appointments in my schedule for the rest of the year.
@@dirtyhannie I never plan anything. EVER. Must be because all my days are wide open. I have 24 hours every day to do as I fucking please!
If I ever *do* plan something, it's because the person I'm planning it with, has a busy schedule to follow.
@@bobosims1848 so you never told a friend you'll come by tomorrow or next week?
I think the “the Dutch plan everything”. No, maybe certain people, if they work fulltime, but if someone asks me, cogfee tomorrow, or drinks after work, there is a great chance I can make it. And that goes for my friends as well.
I am ok with everything else. But as a Dutchy, i suck at planning.
Personally I dont't like the planning culture of ours
I do plan things but not everything 🤣🤣🤣
I tried the Netherlands for a year and then moved back to Spain where I've been since 2013 because I couldn't deal with the planning culture anymore; it was too frustrating for me not being able to do spontaneous things
@@jorisboonekamp9038 understandable. I have lived near amsterdam all my life and im getting very stressed by this planning culture. I work all week and before the weekend comes around its always been entirely filled up with stuff
I used to think I was terrible at it, but then I found out what was normal in other countries and my brain literally goes: "What? You just drop by without telling them? But what if they're not home? Or busy? Can't you just text them like, hey, wanna hang out tomorrow? Oh, wait. This is exactly what they mean, isn't it? About planning everything...
As a fellow Aussie living in the Netherlands, this is spot on!!! I love, love, love the Dutch and their cultural habits and I'm happy to be influenced by their pragmatism and logical approach to life! Go Dutchies, go!!!
@Emma Feather Awww
I'm a Dutch person who lived in Australia for 6 months and I thought the people were always being so nice!! I really loved how nice everyone was there. And now you tell me it's actually fake friendly :')
Bless you for actually adapting (or trying really hard by choice!) to the culture you've decided to live in.
As a Dutchman myself, I really respect that.
Regarding the planning: The more rural you go, the more relaxed it becomes. It's common in Fryslân to just slip through the backdoor of someone you know well, even if you haven't made any plans with them.
Yup. Achterhoek too, just go in from the backdoor on friends and neighbours unasked, you even get to join dinner there' always food.
groningen to like go tru the back door jell folk en have a cup of coffee.
Twente and Drenthe too!!
Brabant as well
I was wondering where she got the impression that Dutch people even plan their family or friendly visits. To be fair I’m Flemish so this might be different but with friends and neighbours I have never seen my dad make plans for it. Just ooh let’s check if they open the door and let us in.
Zo leuk om van een Australische een mening over Nederland te horen. Nu weet je gelukkig wel waar je over praat, want je hebt hier 4 jaar gewoond. En van wat ik hoor spreek je ook nog aardig Nederlands. Compliment!
En ook met zo’ m’n mooi accent!
There is another saying that pops to mind; Een brutaal mens heeft de halve wereld. Aka, a cheeky person owns half the world. It basically means that a direct person (even for Dutch standards!) can get away with a lot. It really ties into the whole asking culture. Ask for a discount, ask for a bargain, ask for free samples. My poor introverted heart struggles with it, but it's definitely a popular sentiment in the randstad! I love your videos btw, it's very interesting to see my own culture from a different perspective, and to appreciate certain habits I didn't even realise were specifically Dutch :)
I’m Dutch too but I’m not 100 percent sure what de randstad is. Could u explain it?
@@rickmulder6729 it's the area with the largest cities, basically north and south Holland, plus Utrecht. Think Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Den Haag, etc
Annemaaike van de Peppel thx i live in gelderland so I’m not so familiar with that :)
@@rickmulder6729 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randstad
fredtdtje thx for the link! 😄
Een vriend van me heeft een T-shirt met aan de voorkant de tekst "Nee heb je..." en aan de achterkant "Ja kun je vergeten". ;)
hahahah this is great
In flemish: Nee hebt ge.. En vanachter: ge kunt den boom in
@@TheRomeogigli Ahh die "klinkt" veel mooier, meer vriendelijker, lol 👋🇳🇱
@@LindaEll89 The Flemish make Dutch sound nice.
@ConsciousAtoms vraag hem AUB voor een link waar hij dat heeft gekocht.
'Don't get me started on tikkie'
As a dutch person, I felt that in my soul XD
STUUR MIJ TIKKIE VOOR DIE 20 CENT
@@Blessingvrhe, niet fucken met mijn 20 cent nog 80 en ik heb een frikandelbroodje!
The Dutch are 100 my people. I can't stand small talk and I'm always criticized for wanting to plan. Also I go everywhere I can by bike and long for safe infrastructure! Great video. ❤
small talk is something you will find everywhere i think... i am not under the impression that the dutch do less small talk. they are more direct, that's true, but it depends from what region they are.
in belgium we are far less direct to strangers and will even take on english politeness, except for those in antwerp. and i think in the netherlands it's certain regions in the south that are more direct in communication. i can appreciate both, being brought up in antwerp and being used to directness and later in live moving more to the east and suddenly being seen as very arrogant (which is shocking for an introvert peacekeeping personality) and having to adjust my way of communication.
and the more roundabout polite way to communicate is interpreted as very arrogant in antwerp %-) .
@@Blueberryminty Though it's not that rude when you indicate you do not want to talk, that is accepted as well.
@@Blueberryminty "Zullen we uit eten gaan?" "Ja zou kunnen." Is een nee, en dit gebeurt ook onder vrienden.
@@therealdutchidiot Klopt, dat gebeurt. Ikzelf vind het wel verschrikkelijk irritant. Niet omdat het antwoord nee is, want vooral met vrienden moet dat juist kunnen. Met goede vrienden moet je alleen óók kunnen zeggen dat je een keer geen zin hebt en dan vind ik het meer een belediging dat iemand eromheen draait. Alsof ik een probleem zou maken als je een keer even een luie avond op de bank nodig hebt. Maar goed, dat zal inderdaad de nuchtere Nederlandse instelling zijn dan denk ik.
Are you secretly Dutch?
Thank you, Casey for being so positive about the Dutch, their culture and language. I highly appreciate it. For me as a Dutchman it is also an eye-opener because it makes me aware of things which are so engrained in my being I did not even realize it is there. Hope to hear more of these observations.
i just came from a call from an American teacher from my school, she kept going "its sooooo nice to meet you" all the time and it kinda weirded me out, i guess thats the fake friendly part in most english speaking countries.
I'm a Dutchie, but also lived in Adelaide for 24 years... one of the things I love about my country is ''de gezelligheid'' ( i.e. cosiness) nothing like 'zullen we een bakkie doen? '' and the flower shops!! no other country can put a bunch of flowers together like here!! just to name a couple of things.
Never noticed your point about flowersshop ... until now
I agree on the flowers, I have been treating myself to flowers every other week, huge bouquets for 5 euro!! Bargain and gorgeous
I agree with you particularly regarding the flowers. Such wonderful creativity.
When I was in England for a few months, I would sometimes meet up with other au pairs in the area. We would just go to the local pub. Sometimes, it took a bit longer for me to put the kids to bed and I would be a few minutes late. I always texted them 'Hey, I'm going to be a bit late". When I would then arrive 5 minutes late, they wouldn't even be there yet for another ten minutes, because they didn't see 5 minutes as late. Took some getting used to the other way around :P.
We Dutch people are direct, but not rude I think.
When we say: How are you? We mean it and we want to listen.
Last year I had a Canadian guest and I thought he was very rude. He was searching my cupboards for food, asking for special drinks (I had a similar drink but it was not good enough) then he got to the supermarket and got the drink and then told us that we cannot drink from it (it was a very sugary drink, so we really did not have an appetite for it) He asked us how much savings we had on our bankaccount, he left his room a mess, really a mess.
He was constantly snacking and eating candy and took my children in the early morning to the McD. That is absolutely not normal for us, as we like to eat somewhat healthy 😊
He is a good friend, is intelligent, had a lovely wife with him, has a good job, is about 45 years old and was very much into jokes and very polite (how are you today, oh I love you guys so much) but it still was so rude for us Dutch. We never ask people how much money they have or insist some special products and when we tell someone ‘I love you’ it is very special. They have a place in your heart forever and you go to the end of the earth for them if you have too.
What an interesting experience you had, I can't speak for all Canadians but maybe your dear friend is just like this as opposed to all Canadians being like this. I mean his actions do seem quite rude. I don't find the Dutch rude I like to defend their directness, it makes for good honest conversation and straight to the point. Which is fine by me now that I'm use to it hahah.
klopt enigszins. Vaak is het wel gewoon dat je het vraagt ter gewoonte ipv echte interese. Ik denk dat als je het als gewoonte vraagt dan kort je het meestal af. Dus als in ''hoe ist'', ''hoe gaat ie''. En als je het oprecht vraagt dan is het meer van ''hoe gaat het ermee''
Took me years to reprogramme my head. When in Ireland someone greets you and says "Hi, how are you" or "How's it going" they don't want to know how you're doing, they're just saying hello. The correct response is just "Not too bad, yourself?"
Het hangt van de persoon af. Hij lijkt te persoonlijke vragen te stellen. Niet alle Canadezen zijn zo. Vertrouw me. Ik kom uit Canada!
Not rude ? like prime minister telling the people "gewoon je bek houden"
(shut your trap} isn't rude ?
Miss seeing your videos!! Hope everything is still going good in life. Looking forward to the next one!!
Im peruvian and my best friend is dutch. 100% i can confirm these qualities! I very much appreciate a lot those qualities specially coming from a culture that doesnt tend to plan ahead, goes with the flow and are not very direct. Learnt a lot from her when we talk, I would highly recommend on surrounding with dutch friends, for me they are one of the best advice givers because they dont tell you what you want to hear (like peruvian and latin american culture), but how it is!
I never really thought about that not being normal for everyone
Right? I’m Peruvian too, and I’m going to study in the Netherlands next year. I’m already 5 months with my Dutch boyfriend (Long distance), and I have noticed a big change in myself. 😁
I agree with this
What you mentioned is what I hate about my mother (shes from Ecuador). I'll be moving out soon, but I just can't stand her lax attitude regarding things, lack of planning and caring about it (it seems) and the list goes on. Don't get me wrong, I love her a lot, but our differences in culture and behaviour will always clash haha
The cycling and weather are soooo true, I cycle/ bike 45 minutes to school and back everyday. Even when it is raining/ snowing or when the wind is storming.
Wat is sneeuw?
@@dailyyy_ snow
@@louisevalk9501 ik bedoelde eigenlijk van: afgelopen jaren is er amper sneeuw gevallen, dus daarom, sarcastisch: wat is sneeuw
Bruh kan me herinneren hoe ik door de keiharde hagel naar school moest fietsen, heb echt liever regen of sneeuw dan hagel
@@unoriginalname9556 en toch heb je het gedaan
As a Dutchie living in the U.K., I’m here watching like “how many habits do I still have and apply to life?” ^_^ I definitely still have my directness. Pretty sure I drive my British partner crazy with it. And I wish my partner spoke Dutch as well as you do. I know it’s more difficult if you don’t live in the country, but still.
I grew up in New York State in the U.S.A. New Yorkers have a lot of Dutch habits, especially when it comes to directness. New York was originally settled by the Dutch, so it is clear where the habits come from. My father is Dutch and is a certified cheapskate/frugal (goedkope) and I am the exactly same way, but it is a good habit to have! New Yorkers tend to be very formal, get straight to the point and have no issue with correcting others, and are on-time. One of my father's habits was to mash everything on his plate together into one big pile...he used to say, "It's all going to the same place!" I love the Dutch people and still have lots of family there and hope to live there when I retire. My favorite saying is "Wat je niet hebt kun je niet verliezen" ("What you do not have you cannot lose"}.
This is nice to watch. You talking Dutch,........ I think i'm in love!!
I am a German living in the Netherlands currently, I love your videos about Dutch language and culture! :)
Du konntest eine vergleichbare Vlog machen uber Niederlandische Kultur im vergleich mit Deutschen 😉 Lg. aus Holland
I’m Afrikaans and I do a lot of these things as well but I never thought of them as specifically Dutch until now. Good to know as I’m learning Dutch now!
My previous neighbors where Afrikaans , no differents between you guy's and us.
Although yes, getting a drivers license is quite expensive, it's not because the government discourages it. The test you'll have to pass is pretty strict (compared to some other countries), so you have to take lessons before you'd be able to actually pass.
True, but the amount of lessons can vary. From 1 or 2 up to you name. And they have to a number of people fail and also pass. It's not a honest system.
@@hanschouwman4536 True! But I've never heard of anyone who would be able to pass after just 1 or 2 lessons. The average is around 39 hours of driving lessons, which usually costs well over €2000,-
Hi i am now a Dutch canadian, but fifty five years ago i learned how to drive in holland (Rotterdam). it took me two months to get my written test, and another four months for the driver test (twice cancelled because i was at sea). I past. Came to Canada And past both in a hour, they said you can drive in Holland you can drive here.
As a Singaporean, I'm quite surprised how similar we are to the Dutch. I think it's because of how similar they are (I reckon Amsterdam and other major cities are bustling, similar to us) Good to know I can visit it like it's home 😂
I've watched a couple of your videos and i really enjoy and love to see, from your eyes and out of your body language, how happy and enthusiastic you seem about living here!
As a Dutchman who has lived for 2 years in Australia I totally agree with all of your points. Especially the car centric live style (or more the lack of cycling and walking in places) and the beating around the bush was something I just couldn't get used to in Australia.
Leendert Dijkhuis serieus komen mensen bij jouw niet zomaar op visite? Ik blijf dit een raar iets vinden zelfs in Amsterdam is dat niet waar.
@@okidoki878 Ja dat gebeurt wel, er komen regelmatig mensen ongepland langs (meestal sturen ze wel eerst een appje oid). Maar in Nederland moet je het veel eerder aangeven als je een feestje geeft dan dat het in Australië het geval zou zijn. Als ik op vrijdagmiddag zou zeggen dat er een borrel bij me thuis was dan, zou in Nederland 20% van de mensen komen aan wie ik het vraag in Australië zou dat 80% zijn. Dan is het wel zo dat als Nederlanders die middag aan zouden geven dat ze zullen komen dan komen ze ook daadwerkelijk, dat moet je bij de Australiërs nog maar afwachten.
A car centric lifestyle isn't that weird when you consider the immense size and sparse population density of Australia, same with Canada and the US.
@@okidoki878 Het respect voor mensen hun tijd is wel een ding. Ik vind het persoonlijk best vervelend als mensen onaangekondigd langskomen, omdat ik die tijd heb ingepland om even bij te komen van alle andere sociale dingen. Als iemand me appt en vraagt: "hee, is het gezellig als ik even langskom, ik ben in de buurt!" dan zeg ik vaak wel ja, maar als iemand zomaar aanbelt voel ik me wel voor het blok gezet.
@@simont.4633 But also in Australia most of the trips (to supermarkets, schools, sport, etc.) are less than 5 km away and hardly anyone cycles even if it's 1 km away. My experience is that in Australia people live closer to work than in the Netherlands, exactly because cities and towns are too far apart to commute.
The biggest problem for me with the car centric live style is that kids don't enjoy the freedom kids in the Netherlands have. Going to school, sport, music lessons, or just to the park it always requires mom or dad to drive them there.
Absolutely love the video! Something I have picked up in a traffic engineering video and noticed because I have been in The Netherlands since I was born is that the reason we can get around so easily with bicycles is because there are special 'routes' which are designated to seperate cars from bicycles as much as possible which is really nice (you can especially notice this with random poles in the roads, they stop cars but bicycles and pedestrians can go through)! Also everything is usually quite nicely packed so that also helps with having to cycle less.
Love ya video
I love the fact that bicycles in the Netherlands have their owns lanes and co-exist extremely well with cars on the road, as well as pedestrians. I live in the Louisiana USA now, and riding a bicycle along the roads gets a lot of people killed every year. Car drivers here lack patience! A friend of mine used to bike everywhere and literally would get threatened by people traveling in cars to the point where she feared for her life. I do have one question though.....when someone parks their bicycle in one of the huge bicycle parking lots near the train stations or in a bicycle parking garage, how do you manage to find your bicycle amongst the 50,000 other bicycles parked there?????
Ahahaha I love these qualities of the Dutch! Just say what you want, squeeze every penny and it never hurts to ask 💖
Good summary Andrew that's basically Jesse in a nutshell right? hahah
The not being fake thing makes me think of our moto of "doe normaal" do normal.
Doe normaal, dan doe je al gek genoeg!
Act normal
During my visits in the US and Canada: "How are you today, Sir?" Not even looking at you, but at the cash register. Not even a glance. That person isn't even remotely interested. Pissed me right off, had urge to say "Why bother even asking if you don't give a rodent's rectum anyway". But decided to stay polite. Although I thoroughly enjoyed my visits, in that regard I was happy to be back home in the Netherlands lol
My partner feels the same way about that greeting, I guess I'm so used to it being used as a long way to say hello that I don't think too much about it I never take it literally as a question. But you are right it's nice to even say hello to someone while looking at them so I'm not sure what there excuse it this still comes across as rude haha
It's true. I worked retail for a long time here in Canada and I never asked how people were because I honestly didn't really care...I just said hello nicely. My managers would often remind me to ask how someone's day was going or ask them how they were doing and it just seems so unnecessary.
@@duckyluver12 That's honesty, I can appreciate that. :)
Oh if someone asking without caring ill always make them unfomfortable by telling the truth. "Well today not so good. I had bad food yesterday and now I have the shits. Even considering gooing to doctor as there is some blood in my stool. How is your day?" I know its a bit mean. But faking intrest in me also feels mean to me so I just like to confront them with what they are actualy saying and what the consequence can be. :P
Try the cash till ladies at the supermarkets in South Africa who robotically ask " How are you",without the vaguest interest on their faces.At least the male petrol attendants tend to give you a wide smile when greeting one.
I think it’s really great you’re helping people with this channel to get a better understanding of The Netherlands and the Dutch language (being a Dutchie myself)! It’s quite hard to fully understand the language and habits of a certain foreign country at the level of a native person, but when people are putting the effort in it to learn about a country, that is much more valuable than being able to perfectly ‘behave Dutch’ in this case or to speak the language flawlessly 🌟
Fun fact: 80% of people watching this video are Dutch
Including me
We need to know what habits we have!
this video was in the Dutch UA-cam Recommended. UA-cam wanted us to watch this video....
eyyyyyy GEKOLONISEERD
Ik ben Engels, dit kwam op het Britse algoritme, Ik kan ook vloeiend Nederlands spreken!
Dit gebeurt altijd als er iets over nl wordt gezegd
I liked and subscribed because for me as a born Dutch man living in the Netherlands all his life it is super interesting to listen to how you see and feel our culture. It makes me more aware of my own habits. Thanks and welkom terug in Nederland if you ever come back!
Dutch man: No one bargains like me.
Indian: Hold my lassi.
Hahaha I have no doubt that Indians might just have one up on the dutch haha
Time is money so we don't have time to bargain with an indian (having to drink three cups of chi and meeting all brothers and nephews selling their rings and stones just to knock of a couple of rupees) :-p
Dutch: ... we just don’t do business with Hindu ... why should we, takes too long, are even more cheaper than Turkish people, so investment gives no gain, at all. Next.
Worked for a Punjabi and they don’t even pay you! At least the Dutch are honest and straightforward. The Indians in Canada are so entitled and think you owe them for having them in the country.
Nah mate i work in a electronic store. They put up a good fight but i never break. No matter the nationality, gotta get my commission bro..
“Don’t get me started on Tikkie” YES
Hahahaha right!!!
😂🤣😂
@@caseykilmore you can always send your old Dutch friends a Tikkie!
I just paid my running coach with Tikkie this morning. CashApp isn't a thing here?!?
@@caseykilmore Why don't you make a video of experience in Belgium? :)
Would be nice (well perhaps now isn't the best time to travel) regarding Dutch in Belgium.
The whole planning/appointment thing is also based on what region you are in and what age group people are in. Spontaneous visits are becoming less and less common as people work more, have more hobbies and spend less time at home. It was completely unheard of to plan a visit back in 1990 (southern Netherlands), now with younger people it's almost a requirement.
This is my 4th video of you that I am watching and I must admit: I fell in love with you. You are smart, you understand us (the Dutch) and you appreciate the little things that make life better. As I see it, you are everthing a man wants.
I'm a Canadian who has lived in Holland for 15 years. You nailed it.
Hi Casey,
Your videos are a lot of fun to watch! Especially your pronunciation of the word 'spannend' is very impressive!
Bart
This is quite an interesting video to watch as a Flemish (Dutch-speaking Belgian) person. About half of these things I can relate to, and the other half is stuff we absolutely don't do. For an example, even though we speak the same language, we're usually a signifigantly more formal and reserved people than the Dutch. Others often call us cold and distant, but I'd say we're moreso non-confrontational and careful in the way we speak. We also dislike being all social with people we don't know and whom we know don't care about us, so we only really open up for our friends.
Als Vlaming kan ik dit beamen.
As a Fleming, I can confirm this.
Totally agree with all of these!! Thanks for the beautiful reminder. I think it's very easy to overlook some of these and step into judgement.So, very timely. Thank you!
Love the way you pronounce your “R". In The Netherlands we call it "een rollende R" (“a rolling R”). In certain arias they use this rolling R, but not where I live. It is wonderful to hear you pronouncing it so well. Wish I could do that (and I am a native speaker, so that is a really good compliment ;-)).
I’m Dutch but I’ve been living in the US now for 35 years. Listening to your video it made me realize how much I have adapted to the US. Wow! It makes me realize why my family in Holland doesn’t always understand my ways and are annoyed at how “relaxed” I am with making plans. I will keep this in mind when I (finally because of Covid) go back to visit my family in Holland.
First experience with my first Dutch colleague - he was very direct in contradicting a point I was making in a meeting. I left thinking he was a bit rude. Later on, he discovered that I had been correct on the point in question - and emailed me to say so, with a cc to everyone else who had been in the meeting. Needless to say, I quickly learned to appreciate the Dutch approach for what it is - direct, forthright, but not rude. I enjoy working with my Dutch colleagues very much and all my time spent in the Netherlands. Second major experience with the Dutch - fast forward several years and my daughter's first boyfriend is Dutch. The main thing she is left with out of the relationship is Dutch-like directness and becomes a total pain in the ass! Ha, ha, but we love her.
Where is the "GEKOLONISEERD" comment😂
hahah so true but I have seen a few already on my other videos....you Dutchies hahahah
i put it there
Hahhahaha
Umm G E K O L O N I S E E R D ...?
Hope I'm not late
as a Dutchie.... yeah I don't plan anything if it isn't major. like moving house, going somewhere for more than 1 days, etc. else it's just "ehh I think I am free then?"
I am living in The Netherlands and i love the way you describe those dutch habits. You are just right!
Hi Casey. It’s precisely the same here in Denmark🥰 We have the same culture as the dutch😀
Bedankt voor dit inkijkje in onze gewoontes.
Ik snap dat je het zo strak en duidelijk neerzet, maar ook hier zijn onderling wel verschillen. Zo vind ik het persoonlijk erg leuk als mensen spontaan langskomen en dat doen ze bij mij dan ook. Wat in de meeste gevallen wel gebeurt is dat je dan even van te voren checkt of iemand thuis is en of het uitkomt.
Maar kom gerust even buurten. Gezellig.
I adopted the Dutch habit of making my living room window sill look stylish, coordinated with exactly two potplants, like a showroom window
Don't forget about about the curtains. They also must hang neat and exactly equally open. You'll be judged in the neighbourhood otherwise as being unorganized. My mom used to say when she saw my curtains not hanging neat in my bedroom that it was looking like a refugee was living there.😃
@@lienbijs1205 🤓 Slordige gordijnen
vind ik ook vreselijk!
You're spot on all on accounts!
May I add one thing? We look for bargains very often, but we don't bargain (haggle) very often. In some context it is perfectly acceptable (buying a car) but in many other cases it is frowned upon to bargain for a discount.
the “een nee heb je, een ja kan je krijgen” was amazing i couldnt even tell you weren’t dutch👍🏼👍🏼
I live in the Netherlands and I love this video! :)
Really loved this video! I live in holland and this made me appreciate Holland more :)
The "just stopping by" is a thing that mostly exists in the little villages in dutch culture. I remember being so confused about that when I moved from a small village to a city!
Wilde ik net zeggen, ik woon tegenwoordig in een niet al te grote maar wel nog officiële "stad" (Gorinchem). En ik probeer het wel nog steeds te doen, maar in mijn geboorte dorp is het heel normaal.
Yes the just stopping by, or surprise visits is something I as a Dutch woman appreciate. I love these surprises, makes me feel loved, someone took interest in me and wants to spend some of their time with me!
As far as “afspraak is afspraak” is concerned, that is something different. I really hate people cancelling a date unless their ill or something
Not totally. I live in a small village but we don't just walk in. In the south it's far more common I think.
@@Linda-hs1lk waar woon je dan? Ik zie het hier in het noorden genoeg gebeuren, vooral onder ouderen
I'm Dutch, and sometimes I watch these video's to see how others perceive us ^^
Ik ook😅
Thank you for your video, I was always thinking about the Chanel related to similar content that you provide.
The appointment thing is (to me at least) a relatively new thing. Back when I was younger, you'd just pop by people. Maybe more a city thing too.
I think it is a smartphone thing. Then again, cancelling at the last moment is also a smartphone thing. Nothing more annoying than last minute cancellations, I cleared my schedule for you! I could be eating chocolate icecream while reading a good book right now dammit!
I'm from the Netherlands and it's honestly so nice to see that you appreciate these traits so much. I didn't realise some of those things.
Could you do a video on the difference in parenting in the Netherlands?
3:24 This is not for all Dutch people. Most people do like to plan ahead, but I think outside the busy city life (Amsterdam). People also just drop in like ‘we would like to drink some coffee and we were walking in the neighbourhood’😅
As a dutch person I went to Australian years ago, I needed something from a electronic shop, and asked for a discount if i buy 10. The seller was shocked, and started a big conversation, that as we dutchies sometimes don't want 'Nee heb je en ja kun je krijgen' so if he said No i was ok with it =)
So i walked on the street some person asked me : "Hey mate can i have a smoke from you"
i said to my wife: 'heb ik met die gast geknikkerd ofzo?'
So i said No.
He was pretty pissed cuz i said No in our dutchie way.
So learend the lesson to say everything the opposite way like 'Sorry mate can't give you one'.
Asking random people for a smoke is rude imo
@@NoName-pf3mr In the Netherlands you get them random or a lighter =)
@@NoName-pf3mr it's pretty normal in the netherlands.
I like to compliment you on your Dutch prononciation of the 'Nee heb je, ja kun je krijgen' sentence. You clearly have been practicing this one. Well done!
Swedes and Dutch......just the same! Love it!
I have the thought, that you have been speaking of danish habits. Except for the Be comfortable. For myself I do not like cold weather, but if I have an appointment, I will not cancel it unless a wind is blowing the wrong way ; rain is too hard; the sun is burning too much or snow or something else is blocking my way.
you make me feel proud of being dutch :)
Thanks Casey. I loved watching your video about our country. :)) Hou van jou.
Example of a direct Dutch question: "Why are you wearing your nightgown over your sweater?"
Because of the dutch coziness 😜
Lol 🇳🇱
Did you come here straight out of bed this morning ofzo?
I consider it normal to wear a sweater over my nightgown. The other way around would perplex me.
Great video. I wholeheartedly agree with your impressions. Thanks for sharing them.
My thoughts:
Being direct: You're correct on how our language is built, and we do value it as a society as a whole, but not everyone applies it. I know some fellow Dutchies that are very indirect and speak like they're walking on eggshells. Very annoying.
Fake Friendly: Same as before, as a society as a whole we have an aversion to insincerity and fake kindness falls under that, but it's not definitely not universal. My specific example is in the service industry where I worked for several years. Given our Dutch Directness, there can be some extremely unpleasant clientelle, but obviously it's bad for bussiness to mouth off at those people. This results in gritting smiles and holding your temper.
Planning: It's very widespread, probably not universal, but it definitely applies to me. If we have a scheduled meeting and you are 15 minutes late without contacting me, I will simply assume you're not coming and drop the appointment. I think as a society we highly value our time and don't appreciate it being wasted.
The Weather: Yep, it's irrelevant. If it's sunny it's pleasant, if it's too cold wear more layers, and as we say in the Netherlands "You're not made of sugar, rain won't make you melt.". When it's particularly bad I'll feel like not doing it, but I will still do it begrudgingly. 😆
Be comfortable: Practicality is the key aspect here, we love it in every part of our lives. If it's impractical it's bad. Though I would say women still love dressing up here.
Ask for what you want: Kind of overlaps with directness. Can't argue with it. Assuming a no is simply pessimism. I would like to add that asking and assuming you'll get a yes is just as bad.
Looking for a bargain: Trading is in our blood. A good trader seeks a mutually beneficial deal. Quite simply everyone who sells something first-hand considers their profit margin and everyone who sells something second-hand is trying to get back as much as possible from the initial purchase. So unless you haggle the scales will always be tipped in the seller's favour.
Use the car less: I don't even have one. I can get anywhere in the city within 30 minutes on my bike, and I can just use public transport anywhere else.
As a side-note, I love how well-organized your points are. And thank you for the positive vibes about our country. You're welcome anytime!
@8:56 and I was asked by someone close to me why I bought something in a store why it was a bit cheaper elsewhere. Tells you how Dutch I'm not sometimes? That said, I'm also looking up which product I should buy whilst watching this...
Im dutch, i had a friend come over once unnanounced and i was like
wtf are u 12 and wnana play in the street get off my bloody lawn
Dutch people *ALWAYS* ask if they can come over first before they actually do. Even
if its not a work or school day and no one has anything to do. Its just a nice to know when someone is comming over. The time window is usually 15 mins to half an hour or else they would be late.
Don't ever come over to a dutch person's house unnanounced, we really feel like its an intrusion of our privacy
Thanks Casey! Fascinating video! I am also an Aussie. Ten years ago I caught up with a Dutch guy that I hadn't seen for 30 years. Literally the first thing he said was "You've put on weight!"
No wonder I usually get along with Dutch people so well when I am abroad. I'm German. We are so similar. 😂 high five!
I'm half English and half Dutch but my personality is definitely more Dutch. I always get on well with Germans and I love visiting Germany. High five! 🤠
I'm Dutch and i love going to Germany, great people!
Wat a great video Casey: thanks for this! Being Dutch, I fully recognize all the Dutch habits you described. Very funny to hear from you how they work for you as well!
Isn't it about the right balance? For me it's an 'in-between' I guess, with all of this (as a Dutch person from the eastern part of the Netherlands)...
Very well explained! I am Dutch and recognise all the things you mentioned. Thanks for making this video:)
Just stopping by is still done, even in the city, however it is disappearing slowly during the last twenty years. Specially the young generation lives with appointments filled diary up to two months or so. So sad!
Yeah, I feel like a lot of young people make their life extremely busy and it's not healthy. It's happened to me often that I want to meet up with someone but they have zero time
If you have Turkish friends people drop by a lot HAHAHA
10:03 Fory anyone wondering how expensive a license would be in The Netherlands.
*The average cost for a license is around 2400 euro (about 3000 USD)*
- I pay 70 euro (85 USD) for 1 lesson wich is 1 hour and 30 minutes (depends on the driving school you are in)
- You have to get your theory test wich is 35 euros (42 USD) and it is really difficult. (almost everyone fails the first couple of times)
- then when you have passed your theory test, you get to do the real exam in a car. its 245 euro (300 USD) to do that. And again. Almost everyone fails the first time.
- And when you passed both of your tests, you have to pay around 40 euros (49 USD)
concidering you have to take about 20-30 lessons.. you are gonna have to pay A LOT
Yes, it is weird to not have a driver's license in the Netherlands. When you live in a small town and public transport is very limited and not everything is within walking or cycling distance.
These videos are always comparing foreign countries to living in a Dutch city but The Netherlands is much more than cities.
You are right there is far more to the Netherlands that the cities but as far as where I was living and even in most of the small villages were my partners parents live you could still get to work/school/supermarket very easily without a car. That would never happen in Australia. You don't know bad public transport until you come here hahaha
@@caseykilmore I'm not saying public transport is bad but it is very limited if you don't live in a big city. There's only two bus lines here and they only go to the two closest cities. To go anywhere else will take a long detour and a lot of extra time. For example: There was no direct public transport route from my home to my previous job. So, to get to work with public transport it would have taken me 1 hour and 40-50 minutes, while it was about a 20 minute drive by car. With another job I had in the past the difference was even bigger. The journey via public transport would have taken me at least 90 minutes, while it was a half hour bike ride and a 10 minute drive by car.
That's why most companies that I worked at demanded that I had a car if I wanted to work there. And why practically everyone around here is getting a driver's license when they legally can.
@@gert-janvanderlee5307 If you're looking for bad public transport in the netherlands, go to the province of Friesland.
@@timvlaar Not just Friesland. I know from people who live in even smaller villages than mine that public transport completely disappeared there. In that way we're lucky here.
@@gert-janvanderlee5307 Hoi, ik leef al meer dan 50 jaar gelukkig zonder rijbewijs (niet waar sorry, ik heb een brommerrijbewijs. Ik bedoelde dus een auto-rijbewijs).
When I grew up (I'm somewhat older, yes, thank you) it was more normal to just drop by at people's. For instance when I was a student, we had no telephone. Or relatives of my mum, dropping by to make an appointment! But i'm talking 60's- 70's now, so this has changed I guess.
It's very obvious you've lived in Amsterdam, and haven't been to the south. The just dropping by when you're in the neighborhood is common in the south, just not in the big cities in the west. Asking back for money also not in the south. I go out for lunch often with colleagues and we just look at who has paid the last time, it doesn't matter if I pay a little more or less, over the year it'll probably be around the same amount.