Can I Get My Bargain Diesel Bus Running And Driving??
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- 2004 Blue Bird SC2000, transit/school bus! We had to have it towed to the shop, but can we now get it to run and drive? how long has it been sitting and is it any good?
Take it from someone who has been trapped under a vehicle. Don't crawl under something that's only held up by a single bottle jack on the bumper in dirt. Getting killed isn't the worst thing that can happen. Getting crushed and being alive is.
You aren't wrong it's not worth it. I'd drive 30 mins to get some jack stands before I crawl under a vehicle on a jack
As someone who's pulled someone else out by their legs from under their shifting Prevost, ditto. Proper cribbing is essential.
I knew a guy who died that way a few years ago. He was stopped helping someone else who was on the side of the road and crawled under a vehicle that they hadn’t supported well and it fell. I’ve been much more careful since then.
Yeah I agree with this totally!
Why don't you test the starter before spending money on a part you may not need. Don't you know how to jump the starter at the solenoid to test if it works?
If you had a air compressor you can air up the bags up instead of jacking the bus up then put blocks under it that way it be safer
The coolant fan wasnt turning
electric controller?
Or missing belt?
Alternator was turning, so it had a belt. Most likely also not an electric fan, as it has no motor on the back, so visco clutch is the most likely option.
big engines like these tend to have a temperature controlled clutch system basically works like a thermostat but with a clutch system for the fan
@@makoshark40 And that clutch is called a visco clutch. Honestly, i'm amazed that many people still aren't familiar with them, even though the europeans have been using them for over 50 years now.
@@unmountablebootvolume yeah didnt know the name but yeah there mostly common on CMV style engines cause there so god damn loud so people who never dealt with busses semi truck excavators etc etc typically don't know they are a thing hell i didn't know how they worked exactly till i became a truck driver older style pickups tend to have them but like before 2000s and well most people on UA-cam aren't well over there 20s to know about them in that regard either or was to young to pay attention at that time cause lets face it 2004 is considered an old as fuck car now days (yet ive never owned anything newer then 2000s personally)
@@makoshark40 True, but they don't need to be loud. Well made viscos just click like an A/C compressor clutch. The thing that made them become so rare is that most manufacturers turned the engines by 90°, making it damn near impossible to have a front-facing water pump to install a visco clutch on. But the nice thing about them is that the only common problems with them is the bearings locking up, causing the fan to run whenever the engine does, or the entire clutch flying apart, launching the fan into the radiator and making some very expensive noises. I like visco clutches because they are so simple. No crappy chinese electric motor to catch fire, no fuse to blow, no tasty-to-mice wires to get chewed and send 12v into a 5v ECU data line, and no ECU to crash and run the fan until the battery is dead.
My anxiety was through the roof when you got under the bus 🚍 using that jack 😯🤣
Hi there my name is shirley. i started watching ur video ur very lucky to find awsome classic well thats what i call it. u have a name 4 it and if u do what is her name. im 68 yrs old im looking 4 an rv keep my in prayers im in a fixed income but im saving money til then i will be looking 4 my home God loves u and ur family and so do i
thank you so much, I just keep digging until the right deal falls in my lap!
bro you bent the shit out of your cross member look up the jacking points for the love of god the damage your doing and reducing clearance area for flex and removing parts because you ben the bar like 5 inches may make it to where you have to cut the engine out instead of simply removing it
Got a subscriber out of me! Love this videos and can’t wait to see more on this Cummins! Would be awesome to see her tuned a bit ;)
Hi Dustin, I don't know how much you keep up with your comments, but I would like to offer a possible solution to your "wind/audio" issues on your videos. I heard you apologize, but maybe you can end that ? ... If you use a cell phone for your videos you can take the cuff part of a white cotton tube sock and slide it over your microphone opening. This is acoustically transparent but really helps stop the wind from getting to the mic ! ...It should allow your booming manly voice to be heard just fine. If you're using a camera of some kind I don't know if this will help you. ...Keep up the good work...love yer stuff ! ...BigAl , Minneapolis, MN
Thanks for the tip, i really do need to address that, it's so windy out here
next projekt....late 1970s Sports Coach or Diplomat II class A MH...??
maybe a vintage boat to tow behind the barth motorhome?
I would never run an engine without a belt on it's water pump! That twelve Volt starter motor draws up to 2,000. Amperes starting, the old battery was mush. I think you have an emergency starter motor already. Ron W4BIN
yes, belt was on, but clutch fan is not spinning, needs afew more parts
You like really like the looks of your hands. Show more work and less hands.
I'am Your Newest Subscriber Great Videos
Thanks!
Probably just the copper contacts, it's like $7 for 2, I've rebuilt my Cummins starter twice.
yeah, i should have pulled this one apart first. force of habit from working in a commercial shop
Never climb under a vehicle especially that size on just a jack -they can fail axel stands should be used.
At 3:24 I would guess that your starter wires are corroded and need to be cleaned and yes there are too many
No jackstands under...?
Looks like a BlueBird TC2000
There are breakers at the batteries Reboot them . Like a computer. . You know like a House. I am a retired City bus driver and this is what we did to get restarted. oh Wait . Lol that was to get the Air Conditioning to Kick back on.
Test power at solinoid when key at start position
More video's. Thks for the content
Put it in park
You have great positive attitude after buying a new starter.
Blue bird were top of the line back in the day. Each Coach was built per customer specs and were not mass produced "Stick-N-Staple" Coaches!. A year ago I had an opportunity to pick up a 38'f 8v92 Detroit powered Bluebird but the seller was dead set on the price of $22g's which was high for the year model and what the Coach needed. Pretty much sat in covered storage but for a couple years, so all 8 tires were showing dry rot, and alot of the engine rubber needed replacement, the airbag suspension worked as it should but would leak down in a couple of days, the engine was regularly started while in storage but, still needed belts hoses etc... too rich for my blood.
Cool Bluebird you got there, thanks for sharing!!! 👍
That’s a beautiful bus brother glad she got running. Great job. Looking forward to seeing more.
That was a lucky guess with the ignition wire so your starter was good 👍🏻
runs good now!
Try putting it in park it looked like it was in something else
no park on truck trans, just neutral and air brake
17:48 SHE'S ALIVEEEEEEE!!!!
I drove a 5.9 12 valve for 23 years, No issues !!! now driving an 6.6 LBZ I just keep getting lucky on my diesel engines.
Hallelujah it started
Is it not 24v
a lot of them cars and trucks i would not touch your just buying someone problems plus they want way too much for them buses
yeah i have had some bad ones. but sometimes you really win.
@@LifeofLind i hear you its a roll of the dice hahaha
Ŕemind of the bus I used to take to go to work in 2007
it's a pretty nice rig for the price!
You should take the bus and that RV and put everything from the RV to the bus the cabinets and all the stuff and add to it and make it your own. Would be cool
find a conveyor belt supply place . buy some old belting get 3-4 foot wide USED belt about 6-8 feet long and slide them under what ever you work on outside . keeps you dry and cleaner plus it's easier to find a dropped but bolt tool and you can hose them off when they get dirty
Get starter rebuilt
Where da Barth gO?
The liquid leaking out from the wire is the juice. That is why you didn't have enough juice to start the bus. HaHa
WELL YOU'RE ASKING A LOT FROM ONLY 360 CUBIC INCHES DRAG THAT MUCH BUS AROUND
IF I HAD SOMETHING AS BIG AS A BUS OR MOTORHOME AND PLANNING TO TOW ANYTHING I WANT AT LEAST 600 HORSEPOWER OUT OF A CUMMINS
DAVID GRENIS LIVING IN BOULDER COLORADO USA
As a guy with 35 plus cars, I like the fact you assumed you could take the battery out without tools, I’d shut the camera off and really yank…. Don’t need no tools
New to the channel and addicted already...... shame we cant get these type of things here in the UK
Does it not need 24volt battery..nice rig🦾🔥🔥🔥
nope just 12
@@LifeofLind ...i work in bus garage in the uk they have 5-9 litre engines..they have 24v batts thats all only reason was asking they mainly volvos and mercedes and scanias though..yes thats a cool looking bus you have there more so a car guy but do like a cool looking rig too🦾🔥☺️
Dude you need to learn about jackstands. It will be like Diesel Tech Ron, one day out of the blue you aren't with us anymore.
Solenoid.
Can’t wait to see the remodel of this bus
will be starting that in the next few months!
17:47 Is that an electric radiator cooling fan or are you missing the belt? I know nothing about Cummins! Good to see it running,now time to test that Transmission out.
I saw the fan sitting still while the engine was running also.
So the starter switch was wired wrong?
indeed, but i believe the starter needed replaced too.
Little (Big) Bluebird of happiness!
Where the hell do you find these deals?
I just dig, never looking for something specific I used Copart A lot, but it's getting pretty fee heavy.
Found you completely randomly via a UA-cam suggestion. Now I'm hooked - from across the pond.
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Good looking bus; don't give up for nothing.
Really enjoyable video hope you fix as cheap as you can
lol you looked like Ricky from trailer park boys in that storage area,look i found Ricky after a night out!!!Keep up the good vids tho, you make me laugh sometimes ...love the motor home bud.
thanks
Battery before starter.....make sure it is in neutral......
Nice bus, maybe the older starter could have been rebuild by a company?
I work for Navistar, that ignition switch looks the same in the back as the ones that were used in the older trucks, you can pick one up for like $25-$30 bucks.
Great method of fining the problems to have her running if you ever run across another shifter like that I really need one Thanks
Thanks 👍
Make an awesome motorhome😁🦾🔥🔥🔥🔥
Wow a truck Drivers dream. I have retired to Spain. If I was back in Texas I would try my hand at a Bus rebuild.
THANK YOU...ENJOY
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Thanks enjoy the videos,they do make me a little anxious re living my past vehicle disasters.Do like your laid back reactions to “Oh Crap “situations…….Cheers from Australia
put it park
no park on a truck trans
I was hoping to see a follow up to this bus so happy you posted it and more follow ups to that Barth RV! I love it.
Thanks! more to come!
Surely you must have had a COMPRESSOR on site that you could have used to inflate the bags??????
I’m wondering if it’s a 16 volt system. I am NO 24 valve Bluebird mechanic, but just a thought. I’m probably sooooo wrong
@ Life of Lind: Great work. Going step by step knocking out a mental checklist. I have to thank you for minimal cussing and tantrums on camera. I had asked you what brands you felt were worth looking for and you said NUWA and Beaver. Only Beaver I can find is Monico Beavers is that what you mean? What models of diesel pusher did NUWA have? Thanks can't wait to see how you make the superlodge. (yes wonderlodge, but yours will be a bit newer and better built I am thinking I have faith)
First thing I would've done before jacking it up would be to check the Flux Capacitor. :D
Old start maybe healthy
Do Not need new
Needs a stack
Junk videos! Keep em coming!
Love all your videos im in the UK and am looking to get a coach to convert into a r.v!!! Will be watching you every step of the way. Top bloke!!!! Good luck. Bill.
If it's got air suspension.
Can't you connect an external air compressor into the system somewhere.
Then shove some big jack stands in there .
Safety first please .
I'm in the uk and would love a bus like that .
Yes RV / motor home .
Great video .
First video i saw was the Barth and i thought this bus was actually an rv, but i like the idea of you turning it into one, when i heard that engine come to life i was excited for you brother and no you didn't waste your money getting it there. When you think about it, buying a house or building one might cost more than you actually using a vehicle like this that's already half way there, plus it's portable. You can never go wrong, you don't have to have a fancy house because that's not what makes it a home, your heart is in it and home is where the heart is brother. Man your attitude is fricking amazing, don't let anything get you down. I live in the Caribbean but i can tell you, you have the all American spirit brother. Stay up, love your content!
If I was you I would take the driveline out of that bus and put it in that RV you have it makes more sense to have a Diesel in that thing instead of a 454 big block gas engine then you will have more torque and power and be saving on fuel. How much fuel did you go through just driving it that kind of short distance away imaging a cross country trip you would have to be a millionaire to fuel that thing not to mention it's only a what 3 speed trans in that thing. That is crazy they never should of put a gas engine in them to begin with.
Absolutely love the old wagon. I sure wish I had one
it's amazing! thanks!
I think some one sabotaged that bus at the auction. Sweet that you didn't have to put a bunch or money and time into it... Also Hoovies Garage would probably way way overpay you for your turbo k car wagon.
I don’t remember seeing a front engine diesel before. I have always been curious why a large diesel is typically a pusher, you think it’s because the driveshaft would twist to a pretzel from all the torque..? That’s my best guess. Anyone know the real reason? Engine might be too large for the front I suppose, haha and could you imagine the noise? 😂
2 - 1000 cold cranking amp batteries, a fuel pump pressure test, trace the flow of bat power.
Hope you watch this video yourself real carful to see how you bent the center Colum with the jack !!!!!!
I knew a jerk that died when a camaro slid off cinder blocks on to his chest.
yeah i had enough room under there, just wanted more above me
Go to a truck stop buy a new battery
You are clearly not a mechanic.
Thats a denso type starter if you would of removed the 3 x 8mm bolts on the end of the solenoid cover you would of probably found that the copper ring around the plunger and it's connections are usually burnt and need cleaning it can usually done with a file clean it up to make a good connection if it's really bad you can get a kit containing a new plunger and new copper terminals instead if replacing your starter
This is definitely a great project. Would definitely echo people about having several jacks under to help it and keep you safe dude
Thinking it takes a group 31 battery........a pair of them in parallel for amperage. 8D is the other one I remember from heavy truck maintenance.
Great job getting that rig running!
When the engine started the fan was not turning, you might want to check that before letting it get hot. The Bus Grease Monkey has some good vids on fixing air brake systems. If it was a transit bus it might have a real low gear in the rear end, engine will be screaming at highway speeds.
I wish there were guys into this kind of thing in my area of Tampa Bay Florida. I'm so bored on the weekends And no garage.
Does anyone remember the old Ford's and bedfords with front engines. The Ford's where notorious for popping head gaskets. Happy days.
Hi mate thanks for this so when are you sending me the motor home? Haha Good stuff It's going to be nice to see this one decked out I love to watch these mate. You and your family and friends who help you keep safe always. Jeremy Downunder
Didn't see the fan spinning
If I see how americans work and organize on their projects I cant believe you made it to the moon... 🤣
Bluebird took one (it was a pusher) and made it into a Wandelodge for one of the owners daughter before the Wanderlodge division went under. It came up for sale a few years ago and went for more money than it's big brothers.
From the "For What It's Worth" department. As much as I too, would love to have that bus, I would first contact the Church and offer to let them have it back if they would pay the cost. If they reject the offer, my conscious is clear and go with it. I just can't see a why a church was so willing to abandon that bus. They must have thought it was a total loss.
Great to see the progress being made. What I used for U joint work was a substantial vise. Being bench-mounted can be a bit of a problem so you might want to make it portable, assuming you have one :)
Engine fan was not turning.
It's the Bluebird of Happiness ... but, don't let it rest on your shoulder !!!
NICE!!!...great troubleshooting...enjoyed the vid....
Well done tracking down the duff relay(s), sounds good too. Sub'd for future puzzles !
First day with the new tongue lol?! I live the humor!! You have a loyal subscriber out of me !
Man that is the perfect short bus for a camper. Big enough but not a monster to maneuver with the short wheel base and tight steering ratio.