Made this rig a few years ago and called it the J-turd, scaled down Jika rig with a TRD on a 1.0 EWG. split ring, and Dipsey teardrop weight. I forgot about it and had some success with it, nice action as the TRD stood up in the water.
Steve, I have been doing this for years but instead of a ringed hook I put a split ring on a 1-0 hook and hang a teardrop weight on the split ring. The split ring allows me to change weight size without rerigging. Great video, Love your channel.
Fantastic video, I have a pack of smaller jig rig hooks in size 1 with an EWG from Japan, I believe they're from a company called Zappu. Wish I did this set up a couple days ago. Even a normal Ned head with an EWG gets stuck on grass and sometimes gets hung up as well.
Love this concept! Ringed hooks aren't available locally for me, so thanks for the links. I was however to find some larger 3/0, 4/0, 5/0 Gika rigs and extra weights at big box stores. Can't wait to get these little ones; makes bank and kayak fishing so much easier.
That is a great looking rig Steve! I fish a lot of laydowns in my lake. I have tried the neds with the weed guards, but gave up real quick after loosing them in the wood! Can't wait to try this rig out!! Thanks for the underwater footage!
I have had good luck using a similar setup involving a finesse neko tokyo rig and smaller Ned baits and such. It also comes through cover extremely well and keeps your bait from getting lost in muckier bottom lakebeds. Thanks for sharing.
Okay, I think you just showed me the ned rig alternative I've been searching for! That setup just blew my mind! I wonder, though if I can possibly fabricate something similar and maybe save a penny or two.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors I have some spit rings, some tiny 1/16 ball drop shot weights, and a new pack of barrel swivels. It might not be as good as the real deal, but I'm sure it'll get me in the ballpark. I'm heading to the water tomorrow morning to record some content. I'll make sure to get some footage of me trying this rig and send you a copy of my results.
Thanks for your clear explanation and images to go along with the examples mentioned. Does any company make a like a tear drop or dipsy drop weight with a snap ring line connector?
Steve, I've used the VMC Rugby jig head that comes with an EWG hook as well as a Texas rigged Ned bait with an offset worm hook(size 1 for a TRD) but, the ability to change the weight size changes things. The weight is also free to move like the wobble headed jig heads. I was able to throw my Ned rig into a known lay down or brush pile (can't see it underwater but it's there. I've lost plenty of setups on it) with the Texas rigged TRD and snagged a few bass. The biggest problem I encountered was getting the hook point to stay in Elaztech ( or, really any bait) it's nearly impossible so, the hook point constantly popped out . That made it hook onto the structure and resulted in lost baits. I had to bury it so deep I was missing bites. I guess I shouldn't use Elaztech TRD baits when Texas rigging, it's not gonna stand up anyway without the shroomz head. BTW, in the video you showed what looked like a flat bottom/topped jig head. Who makes that? I may want to move off of ZMan's Shroomz if I can find a better "stand up" head. Maybe I'll try your idea. I'm big on using a Ned! Thanks
@@SteveRogersOutdoors couple ways i am going to try this. I will cut the full weight shaft off and try it with a clip weight and just cut the weight shaft enough to put a small weight and bend the shaft. Then just replace the weight of i need to
Hey Steve I like it hey Steve you want to know another rig . It's called the child rig a little different than your rig but the hook is Texas rigged into the bait and you put a weight into the bottom of the ned bait . Your rig is like a little baby toko rig awesome thanks for the links so we can pick up the rig . God bless you and your family.
Steve I have been fishing this rig most of the summer. You can definitely make some heavy duty versions of the Jika Rig using Spror's HD Prime mini clips 30 Lbs. Size #4 or the tactical angler clips in the 50 lb class rating. Or if you're using some big hooks like a 5.0, you can use their 75 lb rated clips. Bass Pro Stacy king is a well versed angler with the Jika Rig and there's a few articles he's written. He power fishes this setup using heavy weights 3/8 oz to half ounce. He uses it instead of a Texas rigged, worm and even a jig. Sometimes. He says he loves throwing it into brush pile and heavy cover. If you Google him with the chica reg, you'll see the articles I'm talking about. One last note. Steve, I have made many variations of the Jika Rig and I have used a barrel swivel on the end of my setup. I found that it hung up more with the barrel swivel it was not necessary like you would use on the Tokyo rigs. The clips I mentioned previously make this rig extremely weedless. Plus You can change at hooks and weights on the fly to accommodate your situation . You could make them with split rings but I don't like using split rings because your line can get caught in the gap and fray plus the hook eye gets stuck in the gap and it does not allow as much range of motion. If you wanted to go to the split ring route. The best way to do it would be by a ring hooked such as the ones VMC makes or gamagatsu. This way you have a solid ring to tie your line too and the hook will have full range of motion. Then you would only need to use a number two or three split ring to attach your drop shot weight. This would be equivalent to the jig rig that owner used to make which they have now discontinued. But owner will be coming out with a new line of ringed extra-wide gap hooks this fall.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors Happy to share the information. Steve. If you ever have any questions feel free to reach out. Like I said, I spent quite a bit of time tinkering with tackle as a retired lure manufacturer. I enjoy tinkering and testing out components to see what gives me the best outcome.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors a few weeks ago I was fishing on a local pond near my home on my lunch break from work. I only had about a half an hour to fish using the Jika Rig with a floating purple worm. I was able to catch nine bass in less than 20 minutes. The bass were a good size for this small pond. One additional tips Steve I have found. I really like soft plastics that have some buoyancy or float. Pretty much love using any of the z-man products as the elastic is extremely durable and has good buoyancy for the most part. It definitely helps keep the bait off the bottom. Also, if you're dead sticking this like a shaky head, I think it gives the lure some natural action.
I just might modify a Tokyo rig to try it out. Have you done any experiments with the hover strolling technique? I would love to see some of your underwater footage of that and your thoughts on it
Looks like a good idea!! Looks like you can make your own by using a 1/0 or 2/0 hook, split ring, barrel swivel then you can connect the clip on weight. Might be cheaper?? Did you ever try the EWG Ned Rig Jigheads?? Stay Safe & God Bless!!!!
For $ saving purposes only, I wonder if a #2 EWG with a split ring around the line tie. Attach a quality swivel to the split ring & a small bell shape lead sinker? Comments welcome & tia!
A rig that does a lot of the same thing is the Tiny Child rig. It has it's own down side in that the weight goes into the end of your plastic but you can save some $ by using nails and super glue. It is best to flip it in gently as opposed to casting it but it has a really different look that is not widely used. Just saying
Fun concept, but there are weedless mushroom heads already out for the Ned. I see no use to have something else dangling from a “weedless” presentation.
You most definitely could! This rig just gives me a little more confidence, if I am already wanting to fish a ned style presentation, around some stuff I normally wouldn't. I appreciate you watching and thank you for sharing.
personally i think its bs i use a texas rigged trd with either a eighth ounce or a quarter ounce weight and usually only break off once or twice a trip
Just maybe, people may fish in areas that are more prone to hang up. Personally I hate and can't stress hate enough breaking off. BS sounds a little strong for a technique that reduces hang ups.
Made this rig a few years ago and called it the J-turd, scaled down Jika rig with a TRD on a 1.0 EWG. split ring, and Dipsey teardrop weight. I forgot about it and had some success with it, nice action as the TRD stood up in the water.
It is a nice little setup! Thanks for sharing this
The Ned rig, perfected! I’m sold. Thanks for the great tip.
I have been very happy with it. Thanks for watching!
Steve, I have been doing this for years but instead of a ringed hook I put a split ring on a 1-0 hook and hang a teardrop weight on the split ring. The split ring allows me to change weight size without rerigging. Great video, Love your channel.
Thanks! I definitely was super impressed with this setup when I first saw it. Very nice to swap weights without redoing everything.
Using 2 splitrings 1 to tie on line and 1 for the weight is the original jikarig how it's supposed to be
Fantastic video, I have a pack of smaller jig rig hooks in size 1 with an EWG from Japan, I believe they're from a company called Zappu. Wish I did this set up a couple days ago. Even a normal Ned head with an EWG gets stuck on grass and sometimes gets hung up as well.
I agree, this setup has been a game changer for me. Just love it.
Love this concept! Ringed hooks aren't available locally for me, so thanks for the links. I was however to find some larger 3/0, 4/0, 5/0 Gika rigs and extra weights at big box stores. Can't wait to get these little ones; makes bank and kayak fishing so much easier.
I really like the smaller sizes. I think they are going to do really well.
Thanks for the tip Steve. I get a kick out of toying around with hooks and jig heads.
It is a lot of fun for sure.
New subscriber. Your content and video production are top notch brother, (and kudos for your messaging at the end of every video).
Thank you! And thanks so much for watching.
I will try and see, thank you very much.
That is a great looking rig Steve! I fish a lot of laydowns in my lake. I have tried the neds with the weed guards, but gave up real quick after loosing them in the wood! Can't wait to try this rig out!!
Thanks for the underwater footage!
Good luck!
Steve thanks for the tips.
Thanks for watching!
Awesome tip brother
Always enjoy your content Steve, simple yet informative. Spice it up a little and add a small screw in blade to the back of that rig 👊
That would be a nice addition! Thank you!
Thank you Steve
Great follow up to your recent video about fishing deeper lay downs.
I didn’t even think about that. Lol.
Thanks Steve. Could work with other plastics as a snagless and different presentation.
Definitely!
Great to see ya, Steve. Great video, brother. Be safe
Will do! Great to hear from you as well.
I have had good luck using a similar setup involving a finesse neko tokyo rig and smaller Ned baits and such. It also comes through cover extremely well and keeps your bait from getting lost in muckier bottom lakebeds. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for adding this for everyone!
Okay, I think you just showed me the ned rig alternative I've been searching for! That setup just blew my mind! I wonder, though if I can possibly fabricate something similar and maybe save a penny or two.
I bet you sure can. I was really impressed with it. It came through wood so nicely and I am interested to see how it does in all your vegetation.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors I have some spit rings, some tiny 1/16 ball drop shot weights, and a new pack of barrel swivels. It might not be as good as the real deal, but I'm sure it'll get me in the ballpark. I'm heading to the water tomorrow morning to record some content. I'll make sure to get some footage of me trying this rig and send you a copy of my results.
@@LowBrowFishing That is awesome. Looking forward to it!
I like that! Looks similar to a Tokyo rig
Very similar. I was really impressed with it.
Thanks good rig
Thanks for watching! I really enjoy fishing this rig.
I love my ewg Ned heads.
If you try Jika Rig you'll put those Ned EWG heads back in your tackle box. 🤣
I use the owner offset block head for the trd. Cheap and I've had no trouble hooking up. 1/8th is about heavy as I go.
Thanks for adding this!
Thanks for your clear explanation and images to go along with the examples mentioned. Does any company make a like a tear drop or dipsy drop weight with a snap ring line connector?
The ones that I used was from a company that makes lots of salt water gear. The name is Varivas.
Steve, I've used the VMC Rugby jig head that comes with an EWG hook as well as a Texas rigged Ned bait with an offset worm hook(size 1 for a TRD) but, the ability to change the weight size changes things. The weight is also free to move like the wobble headed jig heads. I was able to throw my Ned rig into a known lay down or brush pile (can't see it underwater but it's there. I've lost plenty of setups on it) with the Texas rigged TRD and snagged a few bass. The biggest problem I encountered was getting the hook point to stay in Elaztech ( or, really any bait) it's nearly impossible so, the hook point constantly popped out . That made it hook onto the structure and resulted in lost baits. I had to bury it so deep I was missing bites. I guess I shouldn't use Elaztech TRD baits when Texas rigging, it's not gonna stand up anyway without the shroomz head. BTW, in the video you showed what looked like a flat bottom/topped jig head. Who makes that? I may want to move off of ZMan's Shroomz if I can find a better "stand up" head. Maybe I'll try your idea. I'm big on using a Ned! Thanks
Thanks for all this info! That jig head is a Strike King ned head. It can definitely be tricky getting the Elaztech to sit right.
Great video. Looks something like a Tokyo Rig.
Definitely a scaled down version of one. I used it a lot in Minnesota in June and worked really well. Thanks for watching!
Thanks Steve. I had to check first before this comment but it looks like a Tokyo rig without the weight shaft.
Very similar for sure. I am excited about using it.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors couple ways i am going to try this. I will cut the full weight shaft off and try it with a clip weight and just cut the weight shaft enough to put a small weight and bend the shaft. Then just replace the weight of i need to
I tend to avoid all cover with a light leader
Hey Steve I like it hey Steve you want to know another rig . It's called the child rig a little different than your rig but the hook is Texas rigged into the bait and you put a weight into the bottom of the ned bait . Your rig is like a little baby toko rig awesome thanks for the links so we can pick up the rig . God bless you and your family.
It is like a baby Tokyo rig. Just love that little setup.
Steve I have been fishing this rig most of the summer. You can definitely make some heavy duty versions of the Jika Rig using Spror's HD Prime mini clips 30 Lbs. Size #4 or the tactical angler clips in the 50 lb class rating. Or if you're using some big hooks like a 5.0, you can use their 75 lb rated clips. Bass Pro Stacy king is a well versed angler with the Jika Rig and there's a few articles he's written. He power fishes this setup using heavy weights 3/8 oz to half ounce. He uses it instead of a Texas rigged, worm and even a jig. Sometimes. He says he loves throwing it into brush pile and heavy cover. If you Google him with the chica reg, you'll see the articles I'm talking about. One last note. Steve, I have made many variations of the Jika Rig and I have used a barrel swivel on the end of my setup. I found that it hung up more with the barrel swivel
it was not necessary like you would use on the Tokyo rigs. The clips I mentioned previously make this rig extremely weedless. Plus You can change at hooks and weights on the fly to accommodate your situation . You could make them with split rings but I don't like using split rings because your line can get caught in the gap and fray plus the hook eye gets stuck in the gap and it does not allow as much range of motion. If you wanted to go to the split ring route. The best way to do it would be by a ring hooked such as the ones VMC makes or gamagatsu. This way you have a solid ring to tie your line too and the hook will have full range of motion. Then you would only need to use a number two or three split ring to attach your drop shot weight. This would be equivalent to the jig rig that owner used to make which they have now discontinued. But owner will be coming out with a new line of ringed extra-wide gap hooks this fall.
This is great! Thank you for taking the time to share all of this. I very much appreciate it and will have to get these components. Thanks!
@@SteveRogersOutdoors Happy to share the information. Steve. If you ever have any questions feel free to reach out. Like I said, I spent quite a bit of time tinkering with tackle as a retired lure manufacturer. I enjoy tinkering and testing out components to see what gives me the best outcome.
@@vincentlivoti4184 thank you! That means a lot to me.
@@SteveRogersOutdoors a few weeks ago I was fishing on a local pond near my home on my lunch break from work. I only had about a half an hour to fish using the Jika Rig with a floating purple worm. I was able to catch nine bass in less than 20 minutes. The bass were a good size for this small pond. One additional tips Steve I have found. I really like soft plastics that have some buoyancy or float. Pretty much love using any of the z-man products as the elastic is extremely durable and has good buoyancy for the most part. It definitely helps keep the bait off the bottom. Also, if you're dead sticking this like a shaky head, I think it gives the lure some natural action.
@@vincentlivoti4184 Totally agree with you. I use the Elaztech lures Z man makes for Strike King all the time. Love them.
0:42 It's called the "Jika Rig". Jee-Kah.
Originated from Japan. The invention being one of many solutions to fishing high pressured waters for LMB.
Those anglers have come up with lots of great techniques. Incredible perseverance.
there is a weedless ned rig available.i could t find them in any local tackle shop so I ordered some
Let me know how they do for you. Thanks for watching!
Love the content. With area of the country do you shoot most of your videos?
Thank you! Most of them are filmed in northern Ilinois but I travel all over the county getting content.
I just might modify a Tokyo rig to try it out. Have you done any experiments with the hover strolling technique? I would love to see some of your underwater footage of that and your thoughts on it
I haven't tried that technique yet. I would love to see how it looks underwater.
Looks like a good idea!! Looks like you can make your own by using a 1/0 or 2/0 hook, split ring, barrel swivel then you can connect the clip on weight. Might be cheaper?? Did you ever try the EWG Ned Rig Jigheads?? Stay Safe & God Bless!!!!
I have not tried those. I will have to. Thank you!
Been doing that for several years. Works great.
Where can I get the clip on weights?
The link where I got them is in the description below.
For $ saving purposes only, I wonder if a #2 EWG with a split ring around the line tie. Attach a quality swivel to the split ring & a small bell shape lead sinker? Comments welcome & tia!
I would sure think that would work!
What size hook would you recommend with a 2 3/4" Finesse TRD? Maybe a #1? Thx
Yes, I would use a #1.
Where can I find those small egg snap sinkers? I can't find em anywhere?????
I get them directly from Varivas on their website. They are called the TG Grenade.
thank you Steve!@@SteveRogersOutdoors
I wonder if you could just use a Tokyo rig and cut the metal rod real short and use a small tungsten weight? Maybe a little less expensive?
I think it would definitely be worth a try!
A rig that does a lot of the same thing is the Tiny Child rig. It has it's own down side in that the weight goes into the end of your plastic but you can save some $ by using nails and super glue. It is best to flip it in gently as opposed to casting it but it has a really different look that is not widely used. Just saying
That is a nice rig! Thank you for adding this for everyone.
Gika rig
Jika Rig
It definitely is just a scales down Jika. Thanks for watching!
Fun concept, but there are weedless mushroom heads already out for the Ned. I see no use to have something else dangling from a “weedless” presentation.
Absolutely. I was most impressed with it in the wood. Thank you for adding this.
Why not just use a #texasijig ?
You most definitely could! This rig just gives me a little more confidence, if I am already wanting to fish a ned style presentation, around some stuff I normally wouldn't. I appreciate you watching and thank you for sharing.
personally i think its bs i use a texas rigged trd with either a eighth ounce or a quarter ounce weight and usually only break off once or twice a trip
Just maybe, people may fish in areas that are more prone to hang up. Personally I hate and can't stress hate enough breaking off. BS sounds a little strong for a technique that reduces hang ups.
I think the black bean rig is similar and saves money on this rig and the ned rig. Very few videos on it though
I haven’t seen that one. Thanks for adding this.
Too many components. I would rather use a Texas Ned Rig hook with a mushroom head.