Hey Tharbamar! I’d like to say that you are, undoubtedly one of the very best audio reviewers in UA-cam, congratulations! Your descrption about these great and gourgeous loudspeakers was precise, complete and objective; you do know how to transmit all the content and points that really count; besides that, you speak about other loudspeakers, show your system [very good!], and, LET US LISTEN great songs using two good microphones, that’s great! I wish you all the best and thank you so much for doing this excellent work! We, that really appreciate good music and know the benefits of this, will always be thankful to people like you, because your knowledge and experiences are very welcome! THANK YOU! God bless you and your family!
This is exactly my sentiment as well! Thank you both! I’m a subscriber now and look forward to checking out your other videos. Alas, I am a wanna-be audiophile. I have always loved excellent sound and recognized a long time ago that I’ll probably never be able to afford an audiophile system. I get my thrills from going to fine stores and hanging out in their sound rooms. 😁
This kind of presence , detail and transparency without sacrificing Coherence and preserving the musical enveloppe is quite ASTONISHING ! ......and YEs as i said before ....Class A rules with this revealing quality level of speakers.... Well done....
I just purchased the Elysian 4 and you are right. They can play anything really, really well. With my previous speakers I found myself listening to acoustic and jazz music because that is what they excelled in and not to rock music which often ended up being a gloopy mess. With the Elysian it does not matter what I play. They sound wonderful driven by my Allnic 300b tube amp and my Kinki EX M1. I am rediscovering my music collection. It's great. I can't praise them enough and your review is spot on.
My test for the Rock or Progressive Rock genre is to put on an early copy of Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon on vinyl and If the music fidelity knocks my socks off when listened to through a pair of speakers in a 2 channel setup powered by a good amplifier from a reputable brand like Yamaha or Anthem I know that I’ve got a pair of speakers that I’m going to happy with for a very long time.
Wharfedale is a guarantee of quality IMO, so their high end stuff will always be worth a look! I think this gentlemen is giving a truly honest review here!
@@RR-ci3lx I gave you both a thumbs up because one was funny and the other one was correct. What does that make me? One who loves all aspects of life perhaps? You both have a super great life..........
Great review boss, because I think you're able to communicate what it is that hear in the speaker. I would recommend now letting us know what happens when you're using higher end electronics and source.
This channel should be named as a Wharfedale reviews, because it is just a biased fanboy recommending every single wharfedale speakers regardless of the price point.
Wharfedale is on a roll in terms of sales and reviews but not because they still make great sounding speakers. Original UK Wharfedales are great, but now its nothing more than a brandname used by IAG to make money... cheap chinese built for the most part, IAG have the coffers to pay off reviewers to 5 star rate just about every product they are involved with.... Wharfedale, Audiolab, Quad, Luxman (at least still Japanese and decent). Let me tell you the Wharfedale Denton 85th has dreadful treble grain and id expect the same of the Linton which uses the same tweeter but it wont matter to most audiofool buyers because they arent aware the sound is bad, they just love the retro style with the low price and just give up on the sound. I recently tried a pair of Evo 4.1 and again theres just no life in the music which comes out smooth yet dull and with a midrange suckout effect and no body to the treble (a common flaw of Amt i find).
@@georgepopescu1327 I havent heard them myself yet. My dealer, whom i trust implicitly says the Elysian are stunning. All the reviews ive read say they are outstanding. Having heard the Evo range im sure the Elysian are considerably better still, but then they should be at many times the price! What i like about the Elysian 4 is the high sensitivity and easy load for low powered valve amps. As ever, its about listening for yourself if you can and not buying blind from anyones recommendation... trust only your own ears 👍
@@tomwebb7091 so they have nothting to do with cheaper Wharfedale speakers made in China? On my Sennheiser HD 650 the sound of those speakers, recorded by Tharbamar, is very clean, with great dinamics and no sibilance at all.
I bought the Elysian 2 in Nov 2023. I’m very pleased with them. They replaced my B&W 803d. I find them less fatiguing on longer listening sessions . I would have returned them if they had the same narrow sweet spot as the Evo line of Wharfedale speakers. The Elysian 2 don’t have quite the low end output of the B&W 803d with there three 7” woofers but on 95% of the music they are fine. The Elysian4 would have Ben to much in my 14x16 room.Great tone and easy listening with great detail.
These are gorgeous speakers. I bet they sound even better. I wanted to tell you, in the past two weeks based on your reviews, I bought the Quad S2's and the Denon PMA-2000IVR both on the used market at decent prices. Got very lucky with even finding that Denon, they're rarely on the market. So far so good. Thanks for your channel!
If I started from zero, I would surely copy your equipment. A beautiful class A Japanese integrated amp and those very very beautiful and exquisitely crafted standmount speakers.
What a wonderful review, Tharbamar! Woah! Immensely appreciate this!! This is my first video of yours so far. Thanks YT for the recommendation. I shall check out your other videos too! I really enjoyed your Sound Samples towards the end of the review. Really appreciate the effort you took to do it. It really allows us to 'virtually' sit in your room's sweet spot and get an almost 'close to real' feel of your music space. Could you please let us know what microphone you used to record the final sound samples?
Thanks for your review. My local dealer has the Elysian 4 driven with a Primaluna Evo 400 integrated and they sounds awesome. Considering them for my room, but would have to go with the 2 due to space issues.
Wow. Those do sound good. I really can't say anything negative about the current lineup of Wharfedale speakers. I have never heard any in person, and the first model I would like to hear is the Linton Heritage. But, these Elysian 2 sound great. I wonder what the character difference is between the two models. Tharbamar's system definitely is big bang for the buck.
I have a pair of bookshelves from Wharfedale from their Diamond 10 series and they sound beautiful. I have them positioned about 6 feet from the back wall,about 8 feet from where I sit and ever so slightly toed in to my main listening position. I’m not sure if the toe in is actually necessary because these speakers have a wide soundstage as they are but I’m single and can sit wherever I want to so toed in they are . I’ve had them for about 7 years and until I can afford something like these Elsysians they will be more than satisfying for me.
Very good review Tharbamar, Wharfedale obviously have a bit a resurgence going on to release this speaker set, I dont recall seeing anything in this price bracket from them in many years. Hope you and family are well :o)
the elysian range is a safe value, even without the assets listened to this is what emerges from the design of the speaker and the on-board materials, a little out of my budget but we'll see for retirement, thanks for the listening 😉
I think this is the kind of speaker "you marry". Maybe not as immediately impressive as others, maybe not as fun for a short affair, but with the right qualities in the long run.
Hi Tharbamar, thank you so much for this review... partially based on this and other reviews, my dad and I are planning on purchasing either the Elysian 2 or 4. Next week we will demo both speakers. I have a question for you: What would you prefer -> pair of Elysian 2 + SVS SB3000 vs pair of Elysian 4. Amp: NAD M33. Thank you in advance and good luck with the channel!
Hi, for the most music you can do without sub E2 or E4 depending on the size of the room but if you like to hear deepest notes from classical music or modern music sub is a must, you can’t go wrong with either one but watch out for workmanship, the one I had have hairline crack on veneer on one of the speaker.thanks
Thank you so much really enjoyed the review right now I’m running the B&W 802 diamonds. With Classé audio 400 mono blocks I think I really would like to listen to these beautiful speakers. 👍
Great delivery, excellent review, and I very much enjoy your vids. That said, why the Denon integrated? Sure, it has nice detail and excellent build quality, but there are so many great options in that price category. What about a CJ CAV45/50 or Manley Stingray? If you don't want tubes, what about a Plinius or LFD? Any of those would transport those Wharfdales to the next level. Cheers!!
Thanks for advice, the amps you’ve suggested can deliver 60Amp of current when is needed? Please advise. Edit; If I go tube amplifier there is only one brand which is Line Magnetic but no tube for me.
@@Tharbamar OK, fair enough, no tubes. The Plinius is a high current design, although I do not know how their amps compare to the output of the Denon PMA. I'm guessing given that since the Denon doubles power exactly going from 8Ω to 4Ω that its the high current champ in it's price range. Pass amps do that, and they are probably the best solid-state amps I have heard, but they cost more than the Denon. So your thinking is with low impedance speakers like the Wharfdales, you want an amp with sufficient current so that when you play loud you can accommodate any impedance dips? Makes good sense! Which amps did you compare the Denon to before you bought it?
@@82ivaylo So you have heard the PMA-SX11? What have you compared it to? Sonically, why is it better? I ask out of curiosity as I have never hear one and Tharbamar has piqued my interest.
mrwallen no, I am not, in Japan the prices are not far of either, Accuphase prices outside Japan are just crazy, in Japan they are the same as Luxman, people in the know have a lot of respect for the highest offerings intergrated from Denon, but unfortunately these amps are not sold in USA or Europe!
@@gryphongryph Yes, but just about every offering from Accuphase and *modern* Luxman (they had their dark times) is top shelf. Not so true with Denon. Their line is more in the class with Marantz. Now, the PMA-SX11 may be exceptional... I have yet to hear one so I can't say. The specs are great, but so are the specs of other PMA-series amps and some of them are nothing to get too excited over. If it indeed as good as you say, Denon need to do a better job of marketing their gear so that the consumer doesn't have to dig through their product line in order to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Tharbamar my mouth is watering and would be so glad to know your valuation of Wharfedale Evo 4.2 to Elysian 2 being aware of the huge difference in the price tag to make it easy if Elysian 2 is 100 in scale what is Wharfedale Evo 4.2 grade
the Aria 948 are Wharfedale Evo 4.4 competitors. These are 2 levels above those. This one competes with Dali Epicon, Monitor Audio Platinum, B&W 800 Diamond etc.
Some Reviewers say, elac vela 409s sound more open, with little netter bass dynamics. To me, the listening fatigue is also one of the most important characteristics. So if the Elysian is better @ listening fatigue and tonality IT should be the better speaker. Anyway a Thambahar comparison of Elysian and elac vela would be a very interesting thing.
Hi and greetings from sunny Malta, very detailed and informative video as usual, can you tell from where I can buy the cds as I did manage to find on amazon thanks
Hello Tharbamar.....greeting form sunny Malta, great review and video, always a pleasure to watch. In a room the size of 12 feet x 12 feet do you think this model is more ideal than the Elysian 4....thanks
Hi Tharbamar. Nice set up, sound very good as well. Will that be your endgame system? I already have the end game system. I think the system is good enough for me and I really enjoy it but I still interest to read and watch other hifi stuffs. Any chance you can review the new ls50 and ls50 wireless. I really wonder how it sound different than the old one? Thank you for your videos. I really enjoy them. 😀👍👍👍.
Hi Tharbamar, Love the review. Heard u compared it with the B&W805D3, would like your views as I am interested in both the Elysian 4 and the B&W800D3. I know there is a big price difference but looking at the build quality and sound of the Elysian i am really keen to explore as it look very good value and I listen to vocals and like an engaging non-fatiguing and musical sound. Look forward to your views !
Hi, I tried B&W speakers in diamond range, they’re very impressive but they do have a little fatiguing sound for me in the long run. This Elysian range is perfectly balanced sound that I can enjoy without getting tired. Thanks
@@Tharbamar Great reply :D I thought they were in the same price range. I'm kind of already set on buying a Heritage Linton and a Bluesound Powernode 2i with Hdmi for my TV, but still doubt myself sometimes if they're the right choice
@@REGameFly Get the Linton's. With the Bluesound PowerNode 2i you can't get the SQ out of the Elysians. The Bluesound Powernode neither has the power/quality to bring out the best of the Elysians. Neither is the DAC good enough either. No reason to hook up a dac amp combo of nearly 1/5th of the price of the speakers. Seriously.
Lovely review and speakers, maybe try diamond wiring with those speakers. Look up pursuit of perfect system here goes over it. Most hifi shops I go to also does this configure. If it doesn't work at least it was free to try
No matter what you post some one will always have bad thing to say, The best is to enjoy it. You can not please even two people so enjoy just like I am ans move on.
Should do focal Aria 948 comparison to theses even these are like big big bookshelf speakers still what one sounds better with details! That would be great review
I got very similar speaker for 120$ , its MB Quart 650s , it has 8inch woofers , but i change that put in 8,5inch newer ones rest is the same . So that is i think the same Woofer as in there maybe a bit smaller . Midrange driver is a bit smaller on MB quarts 650s and tweeter is titanium dome not Ribon . But its very similar . Tho i trust Elysian 2 sounds better , but does it sound 20x better , that i doubt of course , i guess its maybe 2x better .
I was considering trying the Linton Heritage, but I could stretch my budget to this speaker if I sell off a couple things. I want a speaker that doesn't make bad recordings unlistenable. I know it's almost silly to compare a 1500 dollar speaker to a 7500 dollar speaker but I was hoping you could shed some light on that aspect... i.e. is the Linton Heritage better for bad recordings?
I never get why people test speakers using this chamber music which sounds good on any speaker. Feed it some good live recordings of pop/rock bands and you will hear the limitations (or none). Otherwise nice video, keep it up!
I'm with ya. I remember being at an expo and even a prospective buyer had to request some decent music and he brought acdc. It was glorious to hear it through a high end system. The whole room thought so too.
I would suggest replacing the Star Quads. I used them for a while until my oldest son replaced his and told me to replace mine as well. He first noticed the problems. Not only sonically, but my amp ran cooler after replacing them. Measurable increase in dynamics. He went to Belden Ten White (5T00UP). I and my younger son went to shotgunned Monster. All of us have very different but turntable based audiophile systems. The improvement was very noticeable in every case.
Canare Star Quad are great cables. Of course not the greatest. If I hear a speaker at a dealer singing great with 5k speaker cables and 7k ICs, I'd be wary to buy them unless I tried them with cables that I can afford. I think the focal point of this review is the speakers. And it makes sense to keep the rest of the chain as down-to-earth as possible.
Dang, what a civilized way to kick off a video... wishing the audience a good day. Nice!
Hey Tharbamar!
I’d like to say that you are, undoubtedly one of the very best audio reviewers in UA-cam, congratulations!
Your descrption about these great and gourgeous loudspeakers was precise, complete and objective; you do know how to transmit all the content and points that really count; besides that, you speak about other loudspeakers, show your system [very good!], and, LET US LISTEN great songs using two good microphones, that’s great!
I wish you all the best and thank you so much for doing this excellent work!
We, that really appreciate good music and know the benefits of this, will always be thankful to people like you, because your knowledge and experiences are very welcome! THANK YOU! God bless you and your family!
Thank you very much!
This is exactly my sentiment as well! Thank you both!
I’m a subscriber now and look forward to checking out your other videos. Alas, I am a wanna-be audiophile. I have always loved excellent sound and recognized a long time ago that I’ll probably never be able to afford an audiophile system. I get my thrills from going to fine stores and hanging out in their sound rooms. 😁
Tharbamar hello.. what yor speakers cabel brand.. thanks
I'm so happy to find a real audiophile. Thanks to you Man.
This kind of presence , detail and transparency without sacrificing Coherence and preserving the musical enveloppe is quite ASTONISHING ! ......and YEs as i said before ....Class A rules with this revealing quality level of speakers....
Well done....
Yes, I can't afford these, but would love a set...
Hopefully building my own, at approx 1/3 of the price!
Enter new dream speaker... They are perfect!
I just purchased the Elysian 4 and you are right. They can play anything really, really well. With my previous speakers I found myself listening to acoustic and jazz music because that is what they excelled in and not to rock music which often ended up being a gloopy mess.
With the Elysian it does not matter what I play. They sound wonderful driven by my Allnic 300b tube amp and my Kinki EX M1.
I am rediscovering my music collection. It's great. I can't praise them enough and your review is spot on.
Thank you for sharing your experience.
My test for the Rock or Progressive Rock genre is to put on an early copy of Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon on vinyl and If the music fidelity knocks my socks off when listened to through a pair of speakers in a 2 channel setup powered by a good amplifier from a reputable brand like Yamaha or Anthem I know that I’ve got a pair of speakers that I’m going to happy with for a very long time.
@@richardwestmoreland4796
Wharfedale is a guarantee of quality IMO, so their high end stuff will always be worth a look! I think this gentlemen is giving a truly honest review here!
Can be fussy with placement
one of the best audio youtubers. 👌
Sound transfers incredibly via youtube to my iPad. WOW!
There is more to be had from UA-cam reviews for those who leave cynicism behind.
@@RR-ci3lx
I gave you both a thumbs up because one was funny and the other one was correct.
What does that make me?
One who loves all aspects of life perhaps? You both have a super great life..........
The arguing was your Evo 4.2 speakers saying, "Hey, don't kick us to the curb, man!" ;) But seriously, nice review. Thanks for putting in the time.
Nice clean looking system. Those speakers look very nice too with those stands. I sold Wharfedale years ago, they look a lot better now.
Great review boss, because I think you're able to communicate what it is that hear in the speaker. I would recommend now letting us know what happens when you're using higher end electronics and source.
the bass is tight and accuracy. low end is fantastic
Wharfedale seem to be getting a lot of love at the moment, Anniversary Denton. Linton, Evo 4.2, 4.4, Elysian 2.
This channel should be named as a Wharfedale reviews, because it is just a biased fanboy recommending every single wharfedale speakers regardless of the price point.
Wharfedale is on a roll in terms of sales and reviews but not because they still make great sounding speakers. Original UK Wharfedales are great, but now its nothing more than a brandname used by IAG to make money... cheap chinese built for the most part, IAG have the coffers to pay off reviewers to 5 star rate just about every product they are involved with.... Wharfedale, Audiolab, Quad, Luxman (at least still Japanese and decent). Let me tell you the Wharfedale Denton 85th has dreadful treble grain and id expect the same of the Linton which uses the same tweeter but it wont matter to most audiofool buyers because they arent aware the sound is bad, they just love the retro style with the low price and just give up on the sound. I recently tried a pair of Evo 4.1 and again theres just no life in the music which comes out smooth yet dull and with a midrange suckout effect and no body to the treble (a common flaw of Amt i find).
@@tomwebb7091 what about the speakers from this review?
@@georgepopescu1327 I havent heard them myself yet. My dealer, whom i trust implicitly says the Elysian are stunning. All the reviews ive read say they are outstanding. Having heard the Evo range im sure the Elysian are considerably better still, but then they should be at many times the price! What i like about the Elysian 4 is the high sensitivity and easy load for low powered valve amps. As ever, its about listening for yourself if you can and not buying blind from anyones recommendation... trust only your own ears 👍
@@tomwebb7091 so they have nothting to do with cheaper Wharfedale speakers made in China?
On my Sennheiser HD 650 the sound of those speakers, recorded by Tharbamar, is very clean, with great dinamics and no sibilance at all.
I bought the Elysian 2 in Nov 2023. I’m very pleased with them. They replaced my B&W 803d. I find them less fatiguing on longer listening sessions . I would have returned them if they had the same narrow sweet spot as the Evo line of Wharfedale speakers. The Elysian 2 don’t have quite the low end output of the B&W 803d with there three 7” woofers but on 95% of the music they are fine. The Elysian4 would have Ben to much in my 14x16 room.Great tone and easy listening with great detail.
Thanks for sharing! I end up not liking them for the long term.
@@TharbamarCan you tell us why?
@@quinto34 Good sound but no excitement in long run for me.
@@Tharbamar You mean the Elysian 2 or the B&W 803D?
@@Tharbamarwhy?
Great review! Thank you for taking the time.
Great speakers. Love the stands too. Wharfedale is good at that..
thanks for your time and dedication !
Thanks
Thank you so much for your review on these, you have helped me to make my next speaker purchasing decision.
These are gorgeous speakers. I bet they sound even better. I wanted to tell you, in the past two weeks based on your reviews, I bought the Quad S2's and the Denon PMA-2000IVR both on the used market at decent prices. Got very lucky with even finding that Denon, they're rarely on the market. So far so good. Thanks for your channel!
would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the sound Trent
Gives new meaning to the term "bookshelf speakers."
standmounts
this like half tower speaker?
I like your “just woke up” look...
Hahaha
Wow very warm and relaxing.
If I started from zero, I would surely copy your equipment. A beautiful class A Japanese integrated amp and those very very beautiful and exquisitely crafted standmount speakers.
Beautiful looks and sound.
What a wonderful review, Tharbamar! Woah! Immensely appreciate this!!
This is my first video of yours so far. Thanks YT for the recommendation. I shall check out your other videos too!
I really enjoyed your Sound Samples towards the end of the review. Really appreciate the effort you took to do it. It really allows us to 'virtually' sit in your room's sweet spot and get an almost 'close to real' feel of your music space. Could you please let us know what microphone you used to record the final sound samples?
I had these 10 days at home,... i keep my klinger favre studio 17 ..another world
Like the base very much, gorgeous textures.
Thanks for your review. My local dealer has the Elysian 4 driven with a Primaluna Evo 400 integrated and they sounds awesome. Considering them for my room, but would have to go with the 2 due to space issues.
Wow. Those do sound good. I really can't say anything negative about the current lineup of Wharfedale speakers. I have never heard any in person, and the first model I would like to hear is the Linton Heritage. But, these Elysian 2 sound great. I wonder what the character difference is between the two models. Tharbamar's system definitely is big bang for the buck.
I have a pair of bookshelves from Wharfedale from their Diamond 10 series and they sound beautiful. I have them positioned about 6 feet from the back wall,about 8 feet from where I sit and ever so slightly toed in to my main listening position. I’m not sure if the toe in is actually necessary because these speakers have a wide soundstage as they are but I’m single and can sit wherever I want to so toed in they are . I’ve had them for about 7 years and until I can afford something like these Elsysians they will be more than satisfying for me.
Gorgeous!
Using 2 ScanSpeak drivers? Wharfedale well done, as a ProAc owner I get it
Very good review Tharbamar, Wharfedale obviously have a bit a resurgence going on to release this speaker set, I dont recall seeing anything in this price bracket from them in many years. Hope you and family are well :o)
Thank you.
I love big speakers on stands.... just looks light compared to heavy floorstanders
the elysian range is a safe value, even without the assets listened to this is what emerges from the design of the speaker and the on-board materials, a little out of my budget but we'll see for retirement, thanks for the listening 😉
room treatment looks awesome
Love the finish.
Very good video @Tharbamar and beautiful speakers , thanks for the review👍
I think this is the kind of speaker "you marry". Maybe not as immediately impressive as others, maybe not as fun for a short affair, but with the right qualities in the long run.
I discovered Wharfedale Speakers on UA-cam and now I'm sure I need to hear them in real life. 😊☺
Bravo to them. A very old speaker company sould have real hi end speakers. Now for a center and sub in the series XD!?
Looks GREAT! WOW..
Wau so well round and dynamic
Hi Tharbamar,
thank you so much for this review... partially based on this and other reviews, my dad and I are planning on purchasing either the Elysian 2 or 4. Next week we will demo both speakers.
I have a question for you: What would you prefer -> pair of Elysian 2 + SVS SB3000 vs pair of Elysian 4. Amp: NAD M33.
Thank you in advance and good luck with the channel!
Hi, for the most music you can do without sub E2 or E4 depending on the size of the room but if you like to hear deepest notes from classical music or modern music sub is a must, you can’t go wrong with either one but watch out for workmanship, the one I had have hairline crack on veneer on one of the speaker.thanks
Sounds so amazing
Jaw dropped..great sounding speakers..end game really..😍😍😍👍👍👍👍👍
Great presentation with good preparation. Well said! Love it!
Love your reviews. Also where did you get those wall panels their Awesome. Thank you so much.
You can get them on Amazon called Art 3D, thanks
@@Tharbamar Thank you.
And what else did you use to make panel? Thanks again.
There is another more expensive model, the Wharfedale Airdale Heritage, let's try that!!!
Thank you so much really enjoyed the review right now I’m running the B&W 802 diamonds. With Classé audio 400 mono blocks I think I really would like to listen to these beautiful speakers. 👍
Great delivery, excellent review, and I very much enjoy your vids. That said, why the Denon integrated? Sure, it has nice detail and excellent build quality, but there are so many great options in that price category. What about a CJ CAV45/50 or Manley Stingray? If you don't want tubes, what about a Plinius or LFD? Any of those would transport those Wharfdales to the next level. Cheers!!
Thanks for advice, the amps you’ve suggested can deliver 60Amp of current when is needed? Please advise.
Edit; If I go tube amplifier there is only one brand which is Line Magnetic but no tube for me.
@@Tharbamar OK, fair enough, no tubes. The Plinius is a high current design, although I do not know how their amps compare to the output of the Denon PMA. I'm guessing given that since the Denon doubles power exactly going from 8Ω to 4Ω that its the high current champ in it's price range. Pass amps do that, and they are probably the best solid-state amps I have heard, but they cost more than the Denon. So your thinking is with low impedance speakers like the Wharfdales, you want an amp with sufficient current so that when you play loud you can accommodate any impedance dips? Makes good sense! Which amps did you compare the Denon to before you bought it?
Nevermind, I see you have a couple vids on the subject already. I'll watch those to get your opinions. Thanks!
Why Denon? Because its great sounding amplifier, the build quality is outstanding and its made in Japan. I will say best in class to my ears.
@@82ivaylo So you have heard the PMA-SX11? What have you compared it to? Sonically, why is it better? I ask out of curiosity as I have never hear one and Tharbamar has piqued my interest.
That is too funny. I will have to buy this speaker just for the fun of getting my wife confused. That is scary realistic. What a speaker?
amazing, it looks like you're all set to start exploring music + recreational drugs...
👍🤖👍
Beautiful speakers and listening room, and to everyone dissing Denon, Denon highend amps are world class, up there with Accuphase and Luxman
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣......you’re kidding right?
mrwallen no, I am not, in Japan the prices are not far of either, Accuphase prices outside Japan are just crazy, in Japan they are the same as Luxman, people in the know have a lot of respect for the highest offerings intergrated from Denon, but unfortunately these amps are not sold in USA or Europe!
@@gryphongryph Yes, but just about every offering from Accuphase and *modern* Luxman (they had their dark times) is top shelf. Not so true with Denon. Their line is more in the class with Marantz. Now, the PMA-SX11 may be exceptional... I have yet to hear one so I can't say. The specs are great, but so are the specs of other PMA-series amps and some of them are nothing to get too excited over. If it indeed as good as you say, Denon need to do a better job of marketing their gear so that the consumer doesn't have to dig through their product line in order to separate the wheat from the chaff.
gryphongryph do you also think Lada is right up there with BMW and Mercedes as well? A Denon A110 is just flashy junk compared to a Luxman L-509X.
mrwallen ahh, you are a brand follower, sorry I took you for an audiophile, so this will be a waste of everyone’s life to discuss, have a nice day!
They looks like milion $$$ Beautiful shape and look.
Tharbamar my mouth is watering and would be so glad to know your valuation of Wharfedale Evo 4.2 to Elysian 2 being aware of the huge difference in the price tag to make it easy if Elysian 2 is 100 in scale what is Wharfedale Evo 4.2 grade
So far the reviews I've read is that many actually prefer the EVO 4.2's. Smother in the mid-highs with the soft-dome mid and AMT combo.
Beautiful sound. Not very bassy so not very fatiguing. Upper midrange sounds really good. No wonder female singers sound great .
Beautiful songs, beautiful speakers and listening room, just perfect !
Sound is pretty awesome.
Man, these are beautiful! Well articulated review mate
dangit... I thought my aria 948 was my end game speakers.... now I need to hear these...
the Aria 948 are Wharfedale Evo 4.4 competitors. These are 2 levels above those. This one competes with Dali Epicon, Monitor Audio Platinum, B&W 800 Diamond etc.
Some Reviewers say, elac vela 409s sound more open, with little netter bass dynamics.
To me, the listening fatigue is also one of the most important characteristics. So if the Elysian is better @ listening fatigue and tonality IT should be the better speaker. Anyway a Thambahar comparison of Elysian and elac vela would be a very interesting thing.
👍🏻beautiful speaker,good video bro
Thanks!
Nice loudspeakers and nice integrated amp.
$3,500 each. You are really moving on up!
They just went on sale for $5500 directly from Wharfedale
Beautiful setup!
Hi and greetings from sunny Malta, very detailed and informative video as usual, can you tell from where I can buy the cds as I did manage to find on amazon thanks
hi, ebay is the easiest place to find these SACDs, thanks
Good review - you have here a new subscriber.
Hello Tharbamar.....greeting form sunny Malta, great review and video, always a pleasure to watch. In a room the size of 12 feet x 12 feet do you think this model is more ideal than the Elysian 4....thanks
Hi Daniel, Yes Elysian 2 is more suitable for your room, thanks
İ would listen to these speakers only from youtube
Magical..
Anybody know why he doesn't have the Elysian 2 anymore since he spoke so highly of it? Thanks.
Hi Tharbamar. Nice set up, sound very good as well. Will that be your endgame system?
I already have the end game system. I think the system is good enough for me and I really enjoy it but I still interest to read and watch other hifi stuffs.
Any chance you can review the new ls50 and ls50 wireless. I really wonder how it sound different than the old one?
Thank you for your videos. I really enjoy them. 😀👍👍👍.
Great Sound
That amaia's, very well done review. Loved the sound samples. Where can I purchase that album by Yao Si Ting. Thanks again. Jeff, Tampa, Fl.
Hi Tharbamar,
Love the review. Heard u compared it with the B&W805D3, would like your views as I am interested in both the Elysian 4 and the B&W800D3. I know there is a big price difference but looking at the build quality and sound of the Elysian i am really keen to explore as it look very good value and I listen to vocals and like an engaging non-fatiguing and musical sound. Look forward to your views !
Hi, I tried B&W speakers in diamond range, they’re very impressive but they do have a little fatiguing sound for me in the long run.
This Elysian range is perfectly balanced sound that I can enjoy without getting tired. Thanks
Should I get the Heritage Lintons or these?
That’s six thousand dollars question, my answer is yes if you don’t mind spending $6k more over Linton for better sound quality.
@@Tharbamar Great reply :D
I thought they were in the same price range. I'm kind of already set on buying a Heritage Linton and a Bluesound Powernode 2i with Hdmi for my TV, but still doubt myself sometimes if they're the right choice
@@REGameFly Get the Linton's. With the Bluesound PowerNode 2i you can't get the SQ out of the Elysians. The Bluesound Powernode neither has the power/quality to bring out the best of the Elysians. Neither is the DAC good enough either. No reason to hook up a dac amp combo of nearly 1/5th of the price of the speakers. Seriously.
Sounds like you found your Holy Grail buddy. Now keep them and live with them for a couple years.
Great review!
The AMT tweeter is the winner here for soundstage
how do you compare this to kef reference 1 im planning about this wharfedale
Lovely review and speakers, maybe try diamond wiring with those speakers. Look up pursuit of perfect system here goes over it. Most hifi shops I go to also does this configure. If it doesn't work at least it was free to try
No matter what you post some one will always have bad thing to say, The best is to enjoy it. You can not please even two people so enjoy just like I am ans move on.
Very true. Thanks
Great review of absolutely gorgeous speakers, love the sound samples.
Should do focal Aria 948 comparison to theses even these are like big big bookshelf speakers still what one sounds better with details! That would be great review
Ide like to see that as well.
Fantastic.
Just wondered if your going to review the new Wharfedale Diamond 12 series speakers as think it's about time i upgraded from my JPW Sonata speakers
You can't go wrong with any speaker from the Diamond series. They all punch way above their price bracket and look yummy to boot!
Hi Tharbamar, why did you part with the Elysian 2? Didn't like it after all or?
I liked them very much but for my wide range of musical taste, KEF R11 fit my need. thanks
where do you buy that stereo stand at..
Love your videos! Is this the best bookshelf under 10k? I'm using them for studio monitors that must be clear and get loud! Thanks.
I got very similar speaker for 120$ , its MB Quart 650s , it has 8inch woofers , but i change that put in 8,5inch newer ones rest is the same . So that is i think the same Woofer as in there maybe a bit smaller .
Midrange driver is a bit smaller on MB quarts 650s and tweeter is titanium dome not Ribon .
But its very similar .
Tho i trust Elysian 2 sounds better , but does it sound 20x better , that i doubt of course , i guess its maybe 2x better .
I was considering trying the Linton Heritage, but I could stretch my budget to this speaker if I sell off a couple things. I want a speaker that doesn't make bad recordings unlistenable. I know it's almost silly to compare a 1500 dollar speaker to a 7500 dollar speaker but I was hoping you could shed some light on that aspect... i.e. is the Linton Heritage better for bad recordings?
Great review~!
I never get why people test speakers using this chamber music which sounds good on any speaker. Feed it some good live recordings of pop/rock bands and you will hear the limitations (or none). Otherwise nice video, keep it up!
Exactly bro... Like do audiophiles only listen to one kind of genre? come one put on some Rock or Techno some EDM maybe even.
@@kedduff1814Techno?, se joden los altavoces con esa música.
I'm with ya. I remember being at an expo and even a prospective buyer had to request some decent music and he brought acdc. It was glorious to hear it through a high end system. The whole room thought so too.
you pay what you get, 7500$ speakers sound grogerous
How do you think the Elysian range compares to the Wharfdale Revas? I have the Reva 4s.
More dynamic attack and detail sound with bigger scale.
Very informative video, well done.
I would suggest replacing the Star Quads. I used them for a while until my oldest son replaced his and told me to replace mine as well. He first noticed the problems. Not only sonically, but my amp ran cooler after replacing them. Measurable increase in dynamics. He went to Belden Ten White (5T00UP). I and my younger son went to shotgunned Monster. All of us have very different but turntable based audiophile systems. The improvement was very noticeable in every case.
Thanks for advice.
Canare Star Quad are great cables. Of course not the greatest.
If I hear a speaker at a dealer singing great with 5k speaker cables and 7k ICs, I'd be wary to buy them unless I tried them with cables that I can afford.
I think the focal point of this review is the speakers. And it makes sense to keep the rest of the chain as down-to-earth as possible.