Hey Tharbamar! I’d like to say that you are, undoubtedly one of the very best audio reviewers in UA-cam, congratulations! Your descrption about these great and gourgeous loudspeakers was precise, complete and objective; you do know how to transmit all the content and points that really count; besides that, you speak about other loudspeakers, show your system [very good!], and, LET US LISTEN great songs using two good microphones, that’s great! I wish you all the best and thank you so much for doing this excellent work! We, that really appreciate good music and know the benefits of this, will always be thankful to people like you, because your knowledge and experiences are very welcome! THANK YOU! God bless you and your family!
This is exactly my sentiment as well! Thank you both! I’m a subscriber now and look forward to checking out your other videos. Alas, I am a wanna-be audiophile. I have always loved excellent sound and recognized a long time ago that I’ll probably never be able to afford an audiophile system. I get my thrills from going to fine stores and hanging out in their sound rooms. 😁
I just purchased the Elysian 4 and you are right. They can play anything really, really well. With my previous speakers I found myself listening to acoustic and jazz music because that is what they excelled in and not to rock music which often ended up being a gloopy mess. With the Elysian it does not matter what I play. They sound wonderful driven by my Allnic 300b tube amp and my Kinki EX M1. I am rediscovering my music collection. It's great. I can't praise them enough and your review is spot on.
My test for the Rock or Progressive Rock genre is to put on an early copy of Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon on vinyl and If the music fidelity knocks my socks off when listened to through a pair of speakers in a 2 channel setup powered by a good amplifier from a reputable brand like Yamaha or Anthem I know that I’ve got a pair of speakers that I’m going to happy with for a very long time.
Wharfedale is a guarantee of quality IMO, so their high end stuff will always be worth a look! I think this gentlemen is giving a truly honest review here!
This kind of presence , detail and transparency without sacrificing Coherence and preserving the musical enveloppe is quite ASTONISHING ! ......and YEs as i said before ....Class A rules with this revealing quality level of speakers.... Well done....
I bought the Elysian 2 in Nov 2023. I’m very pleased with them. They replaced my B&W 803d. I find them less fatiguing on longer listening sessions . I would have returned them if they had the same narrow sweet spot as the Evo line of Wharfedale speakers. The Elysian 2 don’t have quite the low end output of the B&W 803d with there three 7” woofers but on 95% of the music they are fine. The Elysian4 would have Ben to much in my 14x16 room.Great tone and easy listening with great detail.
@@RR-ci3lx I gave you both a thumbs up because one was funny and the other one was correct. What does that make me? One who loves all aspects of life perhaps? You both have a super great life..........
These are gorgeous speakers. I bet they sound even better. I wanted to tell you, in the past two weeks based on your reviews, I bought the Quad S2's and the Denon PMA-2000IVR both on the used market at decent prices. Got very lucky with even finding that Denon, they're rarely on the market. So far so good. Thanks for your channel!
This channel should be named as a Wharfedale reviews, because it is just a biased fanboy recommending every single wharfedale speakers regardless of the price point.
Wharfedale is on a roll in terms of sales and reviews but not because they still make great sounding speakers. Original UK Wharfedales are great, but now its nothing more than a brandname used by IAG to make money... cheap chinese built for the most part, IAG have the coffers to pay off reviewers to 5 star rate just about every product they are involved with.... Wharfedale, Audiolab, Quad, Luxman (at least still Japanese and decent). Let me tell you the Wharfedale Denton 85th has dreadful treble grain and id expect the same of the Linton which uses the same tweeter but it wont matter to most audiofool buyers because they arent aware the sound is bad, they just love the retro style with the low price and just give up on the sound. I recently tried a pair of Evo 4.1 and again theres just no life in the music which comes out smooth yet dull and with a midrange suckout effect and no body to the treble (a common flaw of Amt i find).
@@georgepopescu1327 I havent heard them myself yet. My dealer, whom i trust implicitly says the Elysian are stunning. All the reviews ive read say they are outstanding. Having heard the Evo range im sure the Elysian are considerably better still, but then they should be at many times the price! What i like about the Elysian 4 is the high sensitivity and easy load for low powered valve amps. As ever, its about listening for yourself if you can and not buying blind from anyones recommendation... trust only your own ears 👍
@@tomwebb7091 so they have nothting to do with cheaper Wharfedale speakers made in China? On my Sennheiser HD 650 the sound of those speakers, recorded by Tharbamar, is very clean, with great dinamics and no sibilance at all.
Hi Tharbamar, thank you so much for this review... partially based on this and other reviews, my dad and I are planning on purchasing either the Elysian 2 or 4. Next week we will demo both speakers. I have a question for you: What would you prefer -> pair of Elysian 2 + SVS SB3000 vs pair of Elysian 4. Amp: NAD M33. Thank you in advance and good luck with the channel!
Hi, for the most music you can do without sub E2 or E4 depending on the size of the room but if you like to hear deepest notes from classical music or modern music sub is a must, you can’t go wrong with either one but watch out for workmanship, the one I had have hairline crack on veneer on one of the speaker.thanks
Great review boss, because I think you're able to communicate what it is that hear in the speaker. I would recommend now letting us know what happens when you're using higher end electronics and source.
What a wonderful review, Tharbamar! Woah! Immensely appreciate this!! This is my first video of yours so far. Thanks YT for the recommendation. I shall check out your other videos too! I really enjoyed your Sound Samples towards the end of the review. Really appreciate the effort you took to do it. It really allows us to 'virtually' sit in your room's sweet spot and get an almost 'close to real' feel of your music space. Could you please let us know what microphone you used to record the final sound samples?
Wow. Those do sound good. I really can't say anything negative about the current lineup of Wharfedale speakers. I have never heard any in person, and the first model I would like to hear is the Linton Heritage. But, these Elysian 2 sound great. I wonder what the character difference is between the two models. Tharbamar's system definitely is big bang for the buck.
I have a pair of bookshelves from Wharfedale from their Diamond 10 series and they sound beautiful. I have them positioned about 6 feet from the back wall,about 8 feet from where I sit and ever so slightly toed in to my main listening position. I’m not sure if the toe in is actually necessary because these speakers have a wide soundstage as they are but I’m single and can sit wherever I want to so toed in they are . I’ve had them for about 7 years and until I can afford something like these Elsysians they will be more than satisfying for me.
Very good review Tharbamar, Wharfedale obviously have a bit a resurgence going on to release this speaker set, I dont recall seeing anything in this price bracket from them in many years. Hope you and family are well :o)
If I started from zero, I would surely copy your equipment. A beautiful class A Japanese integrated amp and those very very beautiful and exquisitely crafted standmount speakers.
Thanks for your review. My local dealer has the Elysian 4 driven with a Primaluna Evo 400 integrated and they sounds awesome. Considering them for my room, but would have to go with the 2 due to space issues.
Hello Tharbamar Place the Elysian 2s on a reinforced built in bookshelf /against a wall in an otherwise very large room… what’s your prediction on the sound quality change? Still acceptable or better to look to a different speaker? Thank you.
Some Reviewers say, elac vela 409s sound more open, with little netter bass dynamics. To me, the listening fatigue is also one of the most important characteristics. So if the Elysian is better @ listening fatigue and tonality IT should be the better speaker. Anyway a Thambahar comparison of Elysian and elac vela would be a very interesting thing.
mrwallen no, I am not, in Japan the prices are not far of either, Accuphase prices outside Japan are just crazy, in Japan they are the same as Luxman, people in the know have a lot of respect for the highest offerings intergrated from Denon, but unfortunately these amps are not sold in USA or Europe!
@@gryphongryph Yes, but just about every offering from Accuphase and *modern* Luxman (they had their dark times) is top shelf. Not so true with Denon. Their line is more in the class with Marantz. Now, the PMA-SX11 may be exceptional... I have yet to hear one so I can't say. The specs are great, but so are the specs of other PMA-series amps and some of them are nothing to get too excited over. If it indeed as good as you say, Denon need to do a better job of marketing their gear so that the consumer doesn't have to dig through their product line in order to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Great delivery, excellent review, and I very much enjoy your vids. That said, why the Denon integrated? Sure, it has nice detail and excellent build quality, but there are so many great options in that price category. What about a CJ CAV45/50 or Manley Stingray? If you don't want tubes, what about a Plinius or LFD? Any of those would transport those Wharfdales to the next level. Cheers!!
Thanks for advice, the amps you’ve suggested can deliver 60Amp of current when is needed? Please advise. Edit; If I go tube amplifier there is only one brand which is Line Magnetic but no tube for me.
@@Tharbamar OK, fair enough, no tubes. The Plinius is a high current design, although I do not know how their amps compare to the output of the Denon PMA. I'm guessing given that since the Denon doubles power exactly going from 8Ω to 4Ω that its the high current champ in it's price range. Pass amps do that, and they are probably the best solid-state amps I have heard, but they cost more than the Denon. So your thinking is with low impedance speakers like the Wharfdales, you want an amp with sufficient current so that when you play loud you can accommodate any impedance dips? Makes good sense! Which amps did you compare the Denon to before you bought it?
@@82ivaylo So you have heard the PMA-SX11? What have you compared it to? Sonically, why is it better? I ask out of curiosity as I have never hear one and Tharbamar has piqued my interest.
Tharbamar my mouth is watering and would be so glad to know your valuation of Wharfedale Evo 4.2 to Elysian 2 being aware of the huge difference in the price tag to make it easy if Elysian 2 is 100 in scale what is Wharfedale Evo 4.2 grade
@Tharbamar Can you tell who the artist is on the first one "halleluja" ? I tried with Shazam but it didnt findt it. Also the second audio clip if you can tell, the vocals sounds familiar. Wait I think the last one is Grace Mahya right ? From the album Last Live at DUG.
@@Tharbamar Thx I missed the picture but see it now. I know them both then. A shame they are not on Tidal but I have some of Grace Mahya's on SACD and one of Yao Si Ting as Flac files. They both sound great. Thx again.
Hi Tharbamar. Nice set up, sound very good as well. Will that be your endgame system? I already have the end game system. I think the system is good enough for me and I really enjoy it but I still interest to read and watch other hifi stuffs. Any chance you can review the new ls50 and ls50 wireless. I really wonder how it sound different than the old one? Thank you for your videos. I really enjoy them. 😀👍👍👍.
I think this is the kind of speaker "you marry". Maybe not as immediately impressive as others, maybe not as fun for a short affair, but with the right qualities in the long run.
Thank you so much really enjoyed the review right now I’m running the B&W 802 diamonds. With Classé audio 400 mono blocks I think I really would like to listen to these beautiful speakers. 👍
Hello Tharbamar.....greeting form sunny Malta, great review and video, always a pleasure to watch. In a room the size of 12 feet x 12 feet do you think this model is more ideal than the Elysian 4....thanks
I was considering trying the Linton Heritage, but I could stretch my budget to this speaker if I sell off a couple things. I want a speaker that doesn't make bad recordings unlistenable. I know it's almost silly to compare a 1500 dollar speaker to a 7500 dollar speaker but I was hoping you could shed some light on that aspect... i.e. is the Linton Heritage better for bad recordings?
Dear Tharbamar, may I kindly ask you for a few words of comparison to the KEF R11? I’m considering the Elysian 4, the bigger brother. Any insight would be much much appreciated
R11 is more exciting with any genre of music, in the beginning Elysian series was great but after awhile they were not as dynamic or exciting to listen especially when playing rock or modern music in general. They are both great sounding HiFi speakers but if you are after real live music quality like speed and impactful sound both lacks in that direction, thanks
@@Tharbamar Thank you! Any suggestion as to what speaker in the 5-10k€ category could have those properties that you mention? Additionally, do you think those properties changes as the speakers “broke in” or rather as you got used to the sound? Have you by any chance heard the JBL SYNTHESIS HDI 3800?
@@martin.krencey B&W Diamonds, KEF Reference can deliver, if you want to see the difference of braking-in, here is what I do. when you received brand new speaker play your favorite music, take some notes and put them in a room that you don't use let it play for 24/7 for 3-4 days without listening, then bring it back out to your main listening space and play very same songs as before and follow your hearing and compare to the notes from the out of the box listening section.
I never get why people test speakers using this chamber music which sounds good on any speaker. Feed it some good live recordings of pop/rock bands and you will hear the limitations (or none). Otherwise nice video, keep it up!
Hi Tharbamar, Love the review. Heard u compared it with the B&W805D3, would like your views as I am interested in both the Elysian 4 and the B&W800D3. I know there is a big price difference but looking at the build quality and sound of the Elysian i am really keen to explore as it look very good value and I listen to vocals and like an engaging non-fatiguing and musical sound. Look forward to your views !
Hi, I tried B&W speakers in diamond range, they’re very impressive but they do have a little fatiguing sound for me in the long run. This Elysian range is perfectly balanced sound that I can enjoy without getting tired. Thanks
No matter what you post some one will always have bad thing to say, The best is to enjoy it. You can not please even two people so enjoy just like I am ans move on.
Nice review!! would you recommend these speakers for a small room? say 4 x 5 meter 8 Ft tall ceilings, listening distance will only be around 6 to 6'6" so around 1.85 meter to 2 meter. only, please advise
Chris Well why ask the question then if you already know the answer? The question seems like one from an absolute beginner and barely makes sense to anyone experienced with room setup. Not to worry, carry on knowing everything but somehow still asking dumb questions and I’l go help someone else.
the elysian range is a safe value, even without the assets listened to this is what emerges from the design of the speaker and the on-board materials, a little out of my budget but we'll see for retirement, thanks for the listening 😉
Hi and greetings from sunny Malta, very detailed and informative video as usual, can you tell from where I can buy the cds as I did manage to find on amazon thanks
I am lucky enough to have heard these and the 4's. They are most definitely in the 'End Game' bracket. Sound quality is subjective and if you are looking for a speaker of similarly high levels of build quality, very similar sound quality, and having in my opinion, an even better representation of single-point source sound you should try the Tannoy XT 8F. They have now finished production but can still be bought new for under £2000 UK. I have owned the Tannoys for 18 months and have never experienced quality like that at the price point. Many Reviewers and also Kevin Deal from Upscale Audio in California have compared the Tannoys to speakers in the $10000 bracket when they cost $2700. The Tulip WaveGuide tweeter invented by Tannoy literally allows the speakers to disappear. In my opinion, it is even more effective than the Air Motion Transducer. I am not putting the Warfedales down in any way as being from the UK, I have always loved the brand, but at £5000 they only trump the Tannoys in ultimate build detail and esthetics.
I got very similar speaker for 120$ , its MB Quart 650s , it has 8inch woofers , but i change that put in 8,5inch newer ones rest is the same . So that is i think the same Woofer as in there maybe a bit smaller . Midrange driver is a bit smaller on MB quarts 650s and tweeter is titanium dome not Ribon . But its very similar . Tho i trust Elysian 2 sounds better , but does it sound 20x better , that i doubt of course , i guess its maybe 2x better .
I would suggest replacing the Star Quads. I used them for a while until my oldest son replaced his and told me to replace mine as well. He first noticed the problems. Not only sonically, but my amp ran cooler after replacing them. Measurable increase in dynamics. He went to Belden Ten White (5T00UP). I and my younger son went to shotgunned Monster. All of us have very different but turntable based audiophile systems. The improvement was very noticeable in every case.
Canare Star Quad are great cables. Of course not the greatest. If I hear a speaker at a dealer singing great with 5k speaker cables and 7k ICs, I'd be wary to buy them unless I tried them with cables that I can afford. I think the focal point of this review is the speakers. And it makes sense to keep the rest of the chain as down-to-earth as possible.
Dang, what a civilized way to kick off a video... wishing the audience a good day. Nice!
Hey Tharbamar!
I’d like to say that you are, undoubtedly one of the very best audio reviewers in UA-cam, congratulations!
Your descrption about these great and gourgeous loudspeakers was precise, complete and objective; you do know how to transmit all the content and points that really count; besides that, you speak about other loudspeakers, show your system [very good!], and, LET US LISTEN great songs using two good microphones, that’s great!
I wish you all the best and thank you so much for doing this excellent work!
We, that really appreciate good music and know the benefits of this, will always be thankful to people like you, because your knowledge and experiences are very welcome! THANK YOU! God bless you and your family!
Thank you very much!
This is exactly my sentiment as well! Thank you both!
I’m a subscriber now and look forward to checking out your other videos. Alas, I am a wanna-be audiophile. I have always loved excellent sound and recognized a long time ago that I’ll probably never be able to afford an audiophile system. I get my thrills from going to fine stores and hanging out in their sound rooms. 😁
Tharbamar hello.. what yor speakers cabel brand.. thanks
I just purchased the Elysian 4 and you are right. They can play anything really, really well. With my previous speakers I found myself listening to acoustic and jazz music because that is what they excelled in and not to rock music which often ended up being a gloopy mess.
With the Elysian it does not matter what I play. They sound wonderful driven by my Allnic 300b tube amp and my Kinki EX M1.
I am rediscovering my music collection. It's great. I can't praise them enough and your review is spot on.
Thank you for sharing your experience.
My test for the Rock or Progressive Rock genre is to put on an early copy of Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon on vinyl and If the music fidelity knocks my socks off when listened to through a pair of speakers in a 2 channel setup powered by a good amplifier from a reputable brand like Yamaha or Anthem I know that I’ve got a pair of speakers that I’m going to happy with for a very long time.
Wharfedale is a guarantee of quality IMO, so their high end stuff will always be worth a look! I think this gentlemen is giving a truly honest review here!
Can be fussy with placement
I'm so happy to find a real audiophile. Thanks to you Man.
Enter new dream speaker... They are perfect!
This kind of presence , detail and transparency without sacrificing Coherence and preserving the musical enveloppe is quite ASTONISHING ! ......and YEs as i said before ....Class A rules with this revealing quality level of speakers....
Well done....
Yes, I can't afford these, but would love a set...
Hopefully building my own, at approx 1/3 of the price!
The arguing was your Evo 4.2 speakers saying, "Hey, don't kick us to the curb, man!" ;) But seriously, nice review. Thanks for putting in the time.
I bought the Elysian 2 in Nov 2023. I’m very pleased with them. They replaced my B&W 803d. I find them less fatiguing on longer listening sessions . I would have returned them if they had the same narrow sweet spot as the Evo line of Wharfedale speakers. The Elysian 2 don’t have quite the low end output of the B&W 803d with there three 7” woofers but on 95% of the music they are fine. The Elysian4 would have Ben to much in my 14x16 room.Great tone and easy listening with great detail.
Thanks for sharing! I end up not liking them for the long term.
@@TharbamarCan you tell us why?
@@quinto34 Good sound but no excitement in long run for me.
@@Tharbamar You mean the Elysian 2 or the B&W 803D?
Sound transfers incredibly via youtube to my iPad. WOW!
There is more to be had from UA-cam reviews for those who leave cynicism behind.
@@RR-ci3lx
I gave you both a thumbs up because one was funny and the other one was correct.
What does that make me?
One who loves all aspects of life perhaps? You both have a super great life..........
These are gorgeous speakers. I bet they sound even better. I wanted to tell you, in the past two weeks based on your reviews, I bought the Quad S2's and the Denon PMA-2000IVR both on the used market at decent prices. Got very lucky with even finding that Denon, they're rarely on the market. So far so good. Thanks for your channel!
would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the sound Trent
one of the best audio youtubers. 👌
Nice clean looking system. Those speakers look very nice too with those stands. I sold Wharfedale years ago, they look a lot better now.
Wharfedale seem to be getting a lot of love at the moment, Anniversary Denton. Linton, Evo 4.2, 4.4, Elysian 2.
This channel should be named as a Wharfedale reviews, because it is just a biased fanboy recommending every single wharfedale speakers regardless of the price point.
Wharfedale is on a roll in terms of sales and reviews but not because they still make great sounding speakers. Original UK Wharfedales are great, but now its nothing more than a brandname used by IAG to make money... cheap chinese built for the most part, IAG have the coffers to pay off reviewers to 5 star rate just about every product they are involved with.... Wharfedale, Audiolab, Quad, Luxman (at least still Japanese and decent). Let me tell you the Wharfedale Denton 85th has dreadful treble grain and id expect the same of the Linton which uses the same tweeter but it wont matter to most audiofool buyers because they arent aware the sound is bad, they just love the retro style with the low price and just give up on the sound. I recently tried a pair of Evo 4.1 and again theres just no life in the music which comes out smooth yet dull and with a midrange suckout effect and no body to the treble (a common flaw of Amt i find).
@@tomwebb7091 what about the speakers from this review?
@@georgepopescu1327 I havent heard them myself yet. My dealer, whom i trust implicitly says the Elysian are stunning. All the reviews ive read say they are outstanding. Having heard the Evo range im sure the Elysian are considerably better still, but then they should be at many times the price! What i like about the Elysian 4 is the high sensitivity and easy load for low powered valve amps. As ever, its about listening for yourself if you can and not buying blind from anyones recommendation... trust only your own ears 👍
@@tomwebb7091 so they have nothting to do with cheaper Wharfedale speakers made in China?
On my Sennheiser HD 650 the sound of those speakers, recorded by Tharbamar, is very clean, with great dinamics and no sibilance at all.
the bass is tight and accuracy. low end is fantastic
Hi Tharbamar,
thank you so much for this review... partially based on this and other reviews, my dad and I are planning on purchasing either the Elysian 2 or 4. Next week we will demo both speakers.
I have a question for you: What would you prefer -> pair of Elysian 2 + SVS SB3000 vs pair of Elysian 4. Amp: NAD M33.
Thank you in advance and good luck with the channel!
Hi, for the most music you can do without sub E2 or E4 depending on the size of the room but if you like to hear deepest notes from classical music or modern music sub is a must, you can’t go wrong with either one but watch out for workmanship, the one I had have hairline crack on veneer on one of the speaker.thanks
Great review boss, because I think you're able to communicate what it is that hear in the speaker. I would recommend now letting us know what happens when you're using higher end electronics and source.
What a wonderful review, Tharbamar! Woah! Immensely appreciate this!!
This is my first video of yours so far. Thanks YT for the recommendation. I shall check out your other videos too!
I really enjoyed your Sound Samples towards the end of the review. Really appreciate the effort you took to do it. It really allows us to 'virtually' sit in your room's sweet spot and get an almost 'close to real' feel of your music space. Could you please let us know what microphone you used to record the final sound samples?
Gives new meaning to the term "bookshelf speakers."
standmounts
this like half tower speaker?
Wow. Those do sound good. I really can't say anything negative about the current lineup of Wharfedale speakers. I have never heard any in person, and the first model I would like to hear is the Linton Heritage. But, these Elysian 2 sound great. I wonder what the character difference is between the two models. Tharbamar's system definitely is big bang for the buck.
I have a pair of bookshelves from Wharfedale from their Diamond 10 series and they sound beautiful. I have them positioned about 6 feet from the back wall,about 8 feet from where I sit and ever so slightly toed in to my main listening position. I’m not sure if the toe in is actually necessary because these speakers have a wide soundstage as they are but I’m single and can sit wherever I want to so toed in they are . I’ve had them for about 7 years and until I can afford something like these Elsysians they will be more than satisfying for me.
Great review! Thank you for taking the time.
Very good review Tharbamar, Wharfedale obviously have a bit a resurgence going on to release this speaker set, I dont recall seeing anything in this price bracket from them in many years. Hope you and family are well :o)
Thank you.
thanks for your time and dedication !
Thanks
If I started from zero, I would surely copy your equipment. A beautiful class A Japanese integrated amp and those very very beautiful and exquisitely crafted standmount speakers.
Wow very warm and relaxing.
Great speakers. Love the stands too. Wharfedale is good at that..
Thanks for your review. My local dealer has the Elysian 4 driven with a Primaluna Evo 400 integrated and they sounds awesome. Considering them for my room, but would have to go with the 2 due to space issues.
Thank you so much for your review on these, you have helped me to make my next speaker purchasing decision.
Hi Tharbamar, why did you part with the Elysian 2? Didn't like it after all or?
I liked them very much but for my wide range of musical taste, KEF R11 fit my need. thanks
I like your “just woke up” look...
Hahaha
I had these 10 days at home,... i keep my klinger favre studio 17 ..another world
I love big speakers on stands.... just looks light compared to heavy floorstanders
Like the base very much, gorgeous textures.
Beautiful looks and sound.
Very good video @Tharbamar and beautiful speakers , thanks for the review👍
Hello Tharbamar
Place the Elysian 2s on a reinforced built in bookshelf /against a wall in an otherwise very large room… what’s your prediction on the sound quality change? Still acceptable or better to look to a different speaker? Thank you.
Hi, It will muddy the sound output and stereo image will not be as good, I would suggest to try front ported speakers.
How do you think the Elysian range compares to the Wharfdale Revas? I have the Reva 4s.
More dynamic attack and detail sound with bigger scale.
Did you Get the chance og listening to Elysian 1?
And why did u choose Kef r11 over these?:)
R11 is more accurate, better stereo image and bass quality, not as genre sensitive as Elysian series. Thanks
@@Tharbamar aha:) good to know. I am considering elysian 1. but maybe kef r3 or r5 would be a good choice.
Using 2 ScanSpeak drivers? Wharfedale well done, as a ProAc owner I get it
Some Reviewers say, elac vela 409s sound more open, with little netter bass dynamics.
To me, the listening fatigue is also one of the most important characteristics. So if the Elysian is better @ listening fatigue and tonality IT should be the better speaker. Anyway a Thambahar comparison of Elysian and elac vela would be a very interesting thing.
Gorgeous!
I discovered Wharfedale Speakers on UA-cam and now I'm sure I need to hear them in real life. 😊☺
Beautiful speakers and listening room, and to everyone dissing Denon, Denon highend amps are world class, up there with Accuphase and Luxman
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣......you’re kidding right?
mrwallen no, I am not, in Japan the prices are not far of either, Accuphase prices outside Japan are just crazy, in Japan they are the same as Luxman, people in the know have a lot of respect for the highest offerings intergrated from Denon, but unfortunately these amps are not sold in USA or Europe!
@@gryphongryph Yes, but just about every offering from Accuphase and *modern* Luxman (they had their dark times) is top shelf. Not so true with Denon. Their line is more in the class with Marantz. Now, the PMA-SX11 may be exceptional... I have yet to hear one so I can't say. The specs are great, but so are the specs of other PMA-series amps and some of them are nothing to get too excited over. If it indeed as good as you say, Denon need to do a better job of marketing their gear so that the consumer doesn't have to dig through their product line in order to separate the wheat from the chaff.
gryphongryph do you also think Lada is right up there with BMW and Mercedes as well? A Denon A110 is just flashy junk compared to a Luxman L-509X.
mrwallen ahh, you are a brand follower, sorry I took you for an audiophile, so this will be a waste of everyone’s life to discuss, have a nice day!
Beautiful sound. Not very bassy so not very fatiguing. Upper midrange sounds really good. No wonder female singers sound great .
Hey, thank you for your detailed review, appreciate it. Could you say a few words regarding KEF Reference 1 VS Elysian 2? Thank you in advance.
Will put KEF reference speakers shame!
Great delivery, excellent review, and I very much enjoy your vids. That said, why the Denon integrated? Sure, it has nice detail and excellent build quality, but there are so many great options in that price category. What about a CJ CAV45/50 or Manley Stingray? If you don't want tubes, what about a Plinius or LFD? Any of those would transport those Wharfdales to the next level. Cheers!!
Thanks for advice, the amps you’ve suggested can deliver 60Amp of current when is needed? Please advise.
Edit; If I go tube amplifier there is only one brand which is Line Magnetic but no tube for me.
@@Tharbamar OK, fair enough, no tubes. The Plinius is a high current design, although I do not know how their amps compare to the output of the Denon PMA. I'm guessing given that since the Denon doubles power exactly going from 8Ω to 4Ω that its the high current champ in it's price range. Pass amps do that, and they are probably the best solid-state amps I have heard, but they cost more than the Denon. So your thinking is with low impedance speakers like the Wharfdales, you want an amp with sufficient current so that when you play loud you can accommodate any impedance dips? Makes good sense! Which amps did you compare the Denon to before you bought it?
Nevermind, I see you have a couple vids on the subject already. I'll watch those to get your opinions. Thanks!
Why Denon? Because its great sounding amplifier, the build quality is outstanding and its made in Japan. I will say best in class to my ears.
@@82ivaylo So you have heard the PMA-SX11? What have you compared it to? Sonically, why is it better? I ask out of curiosity as I have never hear one and Tharbamar has piqued my interest.
Tharbamar my mouth is watering and would be so glad to know your valuation of Wharfedale Evo 4.2 to Elysian 2 being aware of the huge difference in the price tag to make it easy if Elysian 2 is 100 in scale what is Wharfedale Evo 4.2 grade
So far the reviews I've read is that many actually prefer the EVO 4.2's. Smother in the mid-highs with the soft-dome mid and AMT combo.
Love your reviews. Also where did you get those wall panels their Awesome. Thank you so much.
You can get them on Amazon called Art 3D, thanks
@@Tharbamar Thank you.
And what else did you use to make panel? Thanks again.
@Tharbamar Can you tell who the artist is on the first one "halleluja" ? I tried with Shazam but it didnt findt it. Also the second audio clip if you can tell, the vocals sounds familiar. Wait I think the last one is Grace Mahya right ? From the album Last Live at DUG.
I have included artist name with big picture in each video. First one is Yao Si Ting and 2nd is Grace Mahya.
@@Tharbamar Thx I missed the picture but see it now. I know them both then. A shame they are not on Tidal but I have some of Grace Mahya's on SACD and one of Yao Si Ting as Flac files. They both sound great. Thx again.
@@Tharbamar unfortunately both are not in Tidal
Beautiful songs, beautiful speakers and listening room, just perfect !
Hi Tharbamar. Nice set up, sound very good as well. Will that be your endgame system?
I already have the end game system. I think the system is good enough for me and I really enjoy it but I still interest to read and watch other hifi stuffs.
Any chance you can review the new ls50 and ls50 wireless. I really wonder how it sound different than the old one?
Thank you for your videos. I really enjoy them. 😀👍👍👍.
I think this is the kind of speaker "you marry". Maybe not as immediately impressive as others, maybe not as fun for a short affair, but with the right qualities in the long run.
Thank you so much really enjoyed the review right now I’m running the B&W 802 diamonds. With Classé audio 400 mono blocks I think I really would like to listen to these beautiful speakers. 👍
They just went on sale for $5500 directly from Wharfedale
amazing, it looks like you're all set to start exploring music + recreational drugs...
👍🤖👍
Hello Tharbamar.....greeting form sunny Malta, great review and video, always a pleasure to watch. In a room the size of 12 feet x 12 feet do you think this model is more ideal than the Elysian 4....thanks
Hi Daniel, Yes Elysian 2 is more suitable for your room, thanks
Love your videos! Is this the best bookshelf under 10k? I'm using them for studio monitors that must be clear and get loud! Thanks.
I was considering trying the Linton Heritage, but I could stretch my budget to this speaker if I sell off a couple things. I want a speaker that doesn't make bad recordings unlistenable. I know it's almost silly to compare a 1500 dollar speaker to a 7500 dollar speaker but I was hoping you could shed some light on that aspect... i.e. is the Linton Heritage better for bad recordings?
Dear Tharbamar, may I kindly ask you for a few words of comparison to the KEF R11? I’m considering the Elysian 4, the bigger brother. Any insight would be much much appreciated
R11 is more exciting with any genre of music, in the beginning Elysian series was great but after awhile they were not as dynamic or exciting to listen especially when playing rock or modern music in general.
They are both great sounding HiFi speakers but if you are after real live music quality like speed and impactful sound both lacks in that direction, thanks
@@Tharbamar Thank you! Any suggestion as to what speaker in the 5-10k€ category could have those properties that you mention? Additionally, do you think those properties changes as the speakers “broke in” or rather as you got used to the sound? Have you by any chance heard the JBL SYNTHESIS HDI 3800?
@@martin.krencey B&W Diamonds, KEF Reference can deliver, if you want to see the difference of braking-in, here is what I do.
when you received brand new speaker play your favorite music, take some notes and put them in a room that you don't use let it play for 24/7 for 3-4 days without listening, then bring it back out to your main listening space and play very same songs as before and follow your hearing and compare to the notes from the out of the box listening section.
I never get why people test speakers using this chamber music which sounds good on any speaker. Feed it some good live recordings of pop/rock bands and you will hear the limitations (or none). Otherwise nice video, keep it up!
Exactly bro... Like do audiophiles only listen to one kind of genre? come one put on some Rock or Techno some EDM maybe even.
@@kedduff1814Techno?, se joden los altavoces con esa música.
That is too funny. I will have to buy this speaker just for the fun of getting my wife confused. That is scary realistic. What a speaker?
Hi Tharbamar,
Love the review. Heard u compared it with the B&W805D3, would like your views as I am interested in both the Elysian 4 and the B&W800D3. I know there is a big price difference but looking at the build quality and sound of the Elysian i am really keen to explore as it look very good value and I listen to vocals and like an engaging non-fatiguing and musical sound. Look forward to your views !
Hi, I tried B&W speakers in diamond range, they’re very impressive but they do have a little fatiguing sound for me in the long run.
This Elysian range is perfectly balanced sound that I can enjoy without getting tired. Thanks
Jaw dropped..great sounding speakers..end game really..😍😍😍👍👍👍👍👍
Great presentation with good preparation. Well said! Love it!
Man, these are beautiful! Well articulated review mate
Isn't the Elephant in the room the Wharfedale Elysian 4 ? Wouldn't they be quite similar ? Would I get anything more from spending extra for the 4's ?
how do you compare this to kef reference 1 im planning about this wharfedale
Will the Elysian 2 notably benefit from Bi-Wiring? (with NAD C298)
No matter what you post some one will always have bad thing to say, The best is to enjoy it. You can not please even two people so enjoy just like I am ans move on.
Very true. Thanks
Do you use room correction with crazy high end gear like this?
I use room treatments.
Love the finish.
👍🏻beautiful speaker,good video bro
Nice review!! would you recommend these speakers for a small room? say 4 x 5 meter 8 Ft tall ceilings, listening distance will only be around 6 to 6'6" so around 1.85 meter to 2 meter. only, please advise
It may not be the best space for them, Bass will overload the room.
Chris Well why ask the question then if you already know the answer? The question seems like one from an absolute beginner and barely makes sense to anyone experienced with room setup. Not to worry, carry on knowing everything but somehow still asking dumb questions and I’l go help someone else.
Great review of absolutely gorgeous speakers, love the sound samples.
room treatment looks awesome
Great review. Who’s the singer of the first sample track Hallelujah?
the elysian range is a safe value, even without the assets listened to this is what emerges from the design of the speaker and the on-board materials, a little out of my budget but we'll see for retirement, thanks for the listening 😉
Hi and greetings from sunny Malta, very detailed and informative video as usual, can you tell from where I can buy the cds as I did manage to find on amazon thanks
hi, ebay is the easiest place to find these SACDs, thanks
My room is about 12ft x 18ft. I have Marantz sr7015 with SVS SB2000 pro. Will the elysian 2's be enough for my space?
Sounds like you found your Holy Grail buddy. Now keep them and live with them for a couple years.
$3,500 each. You are really moving on up!
Bravo to them. A very old speaker company sould have real hi end speakers. Now for a center and sub in the series XD!?
They looks like milion $$$ Beautiful shape and look.
Looks GREAT! WOW..
İ would listen to these speakers only from youtube
There is another more expensive model, the Wharfedale Airdale Heritage, let's try that!!!
I am lucky enough to have heard these and the 4's. They are most definitely in the 'End Game' bracket. Sound quality is subjective and if you are looking for a speaker of similarly high levels of build quality, very similar sound quality, and having in my opinion, an even better representation of single-point source sound you should try the Tannoy XT 8F. They have now finished production but can still be bought new for under £2000 UK. I have owned the Tannoys for 18 months and have never experienced quality like that at the price point. Many Reviewers and also Kevin Deal from Upscale Audio in California have compared the Tannoys to speakers in the $10000 bracket when they cost $2700. The Tulip WaveGuide tweeter invented by Tannoy literally allows the speakers to disappear. In my opinion, it is even more effective than the Air Motion Transducer. I am not putting the Warfedales down in any way as being from the UK, I have always loved the brand, but at £5000 they only trump the Tannoys in ultimate build detail and esthetics.
Thanks for the advice.
I noticed there is a piece of foam within the slotted bass port. Is it meant to be removed?
Not removable It’s part of the design.
Wau so well round and dynamic
Sounds so amazing
Anybody know why he doesn't have the Elysian 2 anymore since he spoke so highly of it? Thanks.
I got very similar speaker for 120$ , its MB Quart 650s , it has 8inch woofers , but i change that put in 8,5inch newer ones rest is the same . So that is i think the same Woofer as in there maybe a bit smaller .
Midrange driver is a bit smaller on MB quarts 650s and tweeter is titanium dome not Ribon .
But its very similar .
Tho i trust Elysian 2 sounds better , but does it sound 20x better , that i doubt of course , i guess its maybe 2x better .
The AMT tweeter is the winner here for soundstage
That amaia's, very well done review. Loved the sound samples. Where can I purchase that album by Yao Si Ting. Thanks again. Jeff, Tampa, Fl.
Sound is pretty awesome.
What speaker cables are you using on your Elysian 2 ?
Not bad. If you are mostly pleased with the sound and presentation, I would add an SVS PB-3000 ($1,300) and call it done.
I have the sub already. The speakers are next!
Nice loudspeakers and nice integrated amp.
Beautiful setup!
I would suggest replacing the Star Quads. I used them for a while until my oldest son replaced his and told me to replace mine as well. He first noticed the problems. Not only sonically, but my amp ran cooler after replacing them. Measurable increase in dynamics. He went to Belden Ten White (5T00UP). I and my younger son went to shotgunned Monster. All of us have very different but turntable based audiophile systems. The improvement was very noticeable in every case.
Thanks for advice.
Canare Star Quad are great cables. Of course not the greatest.
If I hear a speaker at a dealer singing great with 5k speaker cables and 7k ICs, I'd be wary to buy them unless I tried them with cables that I can afford.
I think the focal point of this review is the speakers. And it makes sense to keep the rest of the chain as down-to-earth as possible.