***UPDATE**** I decided to make a follow up video on this ua-cam.com/video/yfNQullGEuQ/v-deo.html Should answer some of the questions that were raised, I include 3 demos of this in action with close up shots. As there was some safety concerns & confusing comments raised, I felt I should clear a few things up. 1) This is a tip for certain circumstances only, I never have and never would use it on a component which would cause any safety concern to any customer. 2) The demo was done on a support bracket only, items like this or similar will not cause any safety concern. 3) I did this free of charge and on a time restraint, I noticed it when I was replacing another item, the customer needed the vehicle back that evening and I decided rather than leave it like it was, I would do this and secure it up fully. 4) The bolt was not the issue, the part that the bolt threads into is a secured piece, someone had previously damaged it, leaving the bracket loose and the bolt just tightened a turn or so. 5) The bolt can be removed and will not break, it will go in and out as usual and has helped clean up the damaged threads. 6) Used in the right application I personally believe this is a great tip and can save you a lot of time & trouble. Lastly to all the people who have watched the video, Thanks very much and I am delighted with the feedback I have received on it.
For you to make six specific points means there has be Whinging by people on a mega scale because you present a handy tip to viewers. If they need to complain about what you presented then they are obviously not fully understanding what they just saw. It is self explanatory, I thought and a good handy tip to fix someone's cock-up! John, Australia.
Interesting, never seen exactly that before, but I have a hard time picturing a situation where this is a better solution then putting a taper/pilot shaft on the bolt though. This strikes me that it would create a situation that makes it much more likely to cross the threads and damage the female threads making the situation worse. Also if you have one, some amazing things can be done with a thread file, a drastically underrated tool. Use a thread file to taper the threads and you create a kind of self tapping self aligning bolt. Some factory body bolts are like that.
Problem with your "tip" is that you are passing on bad practice rather than teaching people the correct method. There's a strong possibility that people will apply this technique to safety critical components because a "mechanic" showed them a neat little trick rather than the correct way. Mechanics get a bad name as it is, due to dodgy practices by some, your video just reinforces it and these other halfwits that are defending your "hack" are just as bad. This video just advertises to everyone that you are too lazy to do a job properly. Who taught you to do that?
It would have been faster to run a tappered tap down rather than sawing the bolt if the previous guy cross threaded them at any rate. Literally takes all of a minute. Just take the extra second to align the tap properly. Don't be afraid of one of the best tools in your box. I almost want to make an instructional video on restoring threads now. Especially for down in a tight spot in a blind hole. Bit camera shy thought lol.
I remember doing this with my dad in 1969 to repair the clutch linkage on a 65 Mercury Comet that had been totaled by a pecan tree falling on it. The bolt hole had wallowed out and it looked like the only recourse was to tap and thread the hole in an almost impossible place to access. I thought my teenage arms would fall off as I hacksawed that bolt. It worked and the clutch linkage quit falling a p apart. Dad was unique in that way!
It's not only mechanical tips or knowledge. Where ever you are, make sure you talk to older friends or family members (record whatever you find worthwhile keeping). It all adds up to a better future for all of us!
@@colorin81colorado Definately agree. When my father was ill I took a small tape player along on visits and recorded some of our chit chat. Now, 30 years later I have those memories and the ability to hear him again. JG
Young people do no realize how lucky they are haveing youtube and people like you sharing your knowledge .(Thanks to your dad ). For me i have one foot in the grave. God bless.
Yeah, me too. Im a U tube mechanic. If it wasnt gor it, i couldnt do half the stuff i do to my cars, truck, etc... saved alot of money. I once had an a/c problem on my truck. Mechanics told me my compressor was bad. I knew it wasnt somehow, but i kept watching videos of the same issues others had like mine. Come to find out, it was my temperature probe sensor underneath the glove compartment. 13.00 bucks was the fix. I went back to all the mechanic's and shamed them. Thanks u tubers!!
Very true. I didn't have a Father, the internet has taught me so much information. It baffles me how many ppl I meet that are stuck on a particular task that a simple search would show them the answer.
🤦♂️🤦♂️I thought you were quoting something he said in the video, so I watched it 2 more times, the 2nd time with subtitles, only to find out I'm a retard.
Slow and steady vs quick and fast..... well that depends on the mood Hughbert :0 The update info below is the pinned comment on this video, I know most people do not realize I made that video and it better explains/shows this method in use. I also included below details of why the job was done this way free of charge with the customer fully informed. I hope you check it out 👇👇 UPDATE* I decided to make a follow up video on this ua-cam.com/video/yfNQullGEuQ/v-deo.html Should answer some of the questions that were raised, I include 3 demos of this in action with close up shots. As there was some safety concerns & confusing comments raised, I felt I should clear a few things up. 1) This is a tip for certain circumstances only, I never have and never would use it on a component which would cause any safety concern to any customer. 2) The demo was done on a support bracket only, items like this or similar will not cause any safety concern. 3) I did this free of charge and on a time restraint, I noticed it when I was replacing another item, the customer needed the vehicle back that evening and I decided rather than leave it like it was, I would do this and secure it up fully. 4) The bolt was not the issue, the part that the bolt threads into is a secured piece, someone had previously damaged it, leaving the bracket loose and the bolt just tightened a turn or so. 5) The bolt can be removed and will not break, it will go in and out as usual and has helped clean up the damaged threads. 6) Used in the right application I personally believe this is a great tip and can save you a lot of time & trouble. Lastly to all the people who have watched the video, Thanks very much and I am delighted with the feedback I have received on it.
@@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage I still say its a good one. Of course you may not be able to use it in all engineering applications where the integrity of the bolt is important but as you said, customer was happy and there was no safety risk so i say its a good one Gerard. I had a journeyman who taught me to handle tools as follows. Three one thumb. Middle, ring and little finger wrapped around shaft or handle to give torque. Index finger stretched out to guide the tool. Thumb wrapping and gripping the shaft. I never again broke a hacksaw blade. I cut straight lines in metal and wood. I use this on all tools and it had worked for me.
Steve, I agree with you. I am 66 an work on and repaired many of cars an thing I’ve never seen or heard that before... I am working on a rebuild now that I’m having this kind of problem with now... Thank You for that great tip
Professional machinist(ticketed with some very fortunate experience)myself. Never seen this one. I prefer to recondition the thread, but I see value in this.
I'm 48 yrs old and love to listen. Thank you,your father and your generosity. Thank you for the knowledge you have shared with us. God bless you my brother.
Nice Tip , remember to always leave enough solid thread to equal ( 1.5 x Diameter ) . . According to the Machinist handbook , a thread should be 1.5 as long as it's diameter (considering it's a perfect thread) . That's fully inside the nut, or internal thread. That's as strong as it will ever be . . I always try to go more than that ( 2 x Dia ) to account for imperfect threads.. Regular commercial threads are not exactly perfect . They are great for what they do , but, Aircraft threads are perfect size . I've been a Machinist fort over 40 years .. I've made every kind of thread you can imagine .
I'm not a pro, but I try. I had just installed a new billet pendulum dogbone mount arm and insert on my A3 without issue. So, I thought, why not install a similar thing on my 2012 VW Tiguan, because it has about 400 hp. I was being an idiot taking off the bolts with an 1/2" electric impact, but I got greedy and tried to install the 21mm or M14 bolt that hold the insert in with the impact and i damaged the beginning of the threads internally. This might remedy my issue. I saw a rethreading company called Tifco, which would just so happen to be about a mile from my home. But this fix is better and cheaper.
thats more than awesome,i took my car to the mechanic, to remove the gearbox oilpan for cleaning accumulated grime, but i later noticed that transmission oil was leaking,he damaged one of the four bolt holes and kept quite, the nut was simply not sealing, i found your video, and now the nut is so tight and no oil is leaking, your father is a great man indeed, thanks a lot with love from Botswana
Thank you kindly for that Gerard! I've been a back-yard mechanic for just over forty years and have owned upwards of thirty vehicles, all of which required a lot of repair and road-side fixes. I did not know this very handy helper. I thank you and your Dad, and I certainly greatly appreciate you sharing! Brilliant!
I remember mechanics using this trick years ago when I worked in a gas station with an auto repair shop, when young. Cars were not made with close precision and tolerances, as they are today and there was more space and slop back then in the engine compartment. I almost forget about this technique until I saw it again here. Those old timers were quite clever back then. It brought back memories of an earlier time. Thanks.
As a toolmaker we always took a bolt to the bench grinder. With a well dressed wheel with a good sharp corned we then grind in a corner of the wheel into the end of the bolt. This simulates the leading edge of a tap and can be used to chase bad theeads, etc. if the bolt used is hardened, like a socket head cap screw for example, the bolt will actually cut a bit of thread as well.
I had completely forgotten this trick. My grandfather had used that technique and we actually used it quite a bit on old equipment from the 20’s 50’s on our ranch.
Wow all those times I've struggled fixing these problems and then this comes up. I will never forget this idea your father has taught me. Thanks bro. 🙂
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Just a tip I learned from my father. When using a hacksaw or a file never put downward pressure on the backstroke the teeth only cut one way and putting pressure on the backstroke just breaks the teeth.
@@marmitesmate I'm a woodworker and often using Japanese saws that have a backwards power stroke. I am wondering if forward strokes in hard wood would dull the Japanese woodsaws?
Thanks for mentioning your Da as much as ya did. Every time I think of my father's contribution to my life, I really appreciate him. Our Dads are important. I'm a Dad. I guess, I'm just needing to know being appreciated, is possible. Being remembered is possible
Great tip. Love it. Love the whole thing about “what my father taught me.” I hope you don’t mind me passing on something my father drummed into me - use the whole of the hacksaw blade.😀👍
The comments here are right. He both used the saw like a child and the blade was the wrong way. Nonetheless he tried to make a helpful video, I think that counts the most.
Using whole of the blade gives power and speed, using a shorter bit gives control and accuracy. If you are not very good with a tool, do it the way you you can control it, even if it requires more work.
Same thing can be accomplished by grinding a groove down one side of the bolt on the edge of a grinding wheel. The bolt will act like a self tapping screw. Great tip thank you I will try it next time I encounter a stubborn starting bolt !
The update info below is the pinned comment on this video, I know most people do not realize I made that video and it better explains/shows this method in use. I also included below details of why the job was done this way free of charge with the customer fully informed. I hope you check it out 👇👇 UPDATE* I decided to make a follow up video on this ua-cam.com/video/yfNQullGEuQ/v-deo.html Should answer some of the questions that were raised, I include 3 demos of this in action with close up shots. As there was some safety concerns & confusing comments raised, I felt I should clear a few things up. 1) This is a tip for certain circumstances only, I never have and never would use it on a component which would cause any safety concern to any customer. 2) The demo was done on a support bracket only, items like this or similar will not cause any safety concern. 3) I did this free of charge and on a time restraint, I noticed it when I was replacing another item, the customer needed the vehicle back that evening and I decided rather than leave it like it was, I would do this and secure it up fully. 4) The bolt was not the issue, the part that the bolt threads into is a secured piece, someone had previously damaged it, leaving the bracket loose and the bolt just tightened a turn or so. 5) The bolt can be removed and will not break, it will go in and out as usual and has helped clean up the damaged threads. 6) Used in the right application I personally believe this is a great tip and can save you a lot of time & trouble. Lastly to all the people who have watched the video, Thanks very much and I am delighted with the feedback I have received on it.
To help to prevent cross-threading, start it, by turning counter-clockwise first. You'll feel the the treads pop into place, for clockwise tightening. It always works well, for bolts, nuts, screws, and the like. You'll like it.
Great tip from You and your Dad, thanks! I remember being about 7 or 8 years old and my dad saying, "if only i knew what i know now at your age.." amusing comment at my young age..but it was such a profound statement. We could learn so much if we had the opportunity and patience (as youngsters) to shadow our Dads (and Moms) through part of our daily life. Sadly my Dad passed away in Sep 2008.
Great tip Gerard, I remember being taught this tip by an old mechanic when I was a sixteen year old apprentice. One of those little tips you never forget. Made me smile remembering those days (it was a while ago 😊).
Nice tip about the hacksaw. ATF as a cutting fluid was cool. I used my dremel to notch a bolt to make a tap just last week. I've done it many times. Real taps work much better though.
And keep your finger on the disc, to make sure your cut is nice and straight 👍 OMG, of course a finger on the hacksaw frame will assist with your steering, but effs. Don't fully grown men have more significant things to discuss? Like, I don't know, perhaps How wonderful Mr Trump tells us he is or something!
"You can't teach an old dog new tricks." Well this video just proved that statement wrong. I am an old dog and I just learned a new trick. Thanks, that hack is brilliant. Thank you
I love this 'Dad hack' so much I plan to pass it along to everyone I know. Thanks for sharing...that's what it's all about! Be kind to your fellow man, love they neighbor, you learned this awesome hack, passed your knowledge on to me and others and I thank you for that. You rock!!!
I did this to a short piece of half inch threaded pipe, it worked like a cheap tap and recut the damaged threads in the brass shower fitting I was working on.
Thanks for the tip! If you have a likely stubborn bolt, try tightening it more BEFORE attempting to loosen it. It'll be less likely to break or to strip threads.
You worded that very poorly. You wouldn't know the bolt was stubborn until you tried loosening it. What you should have said if you find a bolt is stubborn, try tightening it just one degree to break it loose. Another trick is to tap on it with a hammer while turning if you don't have an impact wrench available... hopefully you can have a second person tapping it for you while you turn.. and or using a cheater bar.. or using a second wrench as a cheater bar hooking the 2 wrenches together to make it longer..
Excellent tip. I've been tinkering with cars for fifty years and there have been many times where this hack would have helped. I'm also going to share it with my son and grandson Thanks!
Back in the day folks had to make do on their own. So people got inventive. We've lost a lot of that through our ability to just "call someone". It's only gotten worse with the net. On the positive side the net gives you tips like this one. And makes one WANT to figure things out on their own. I sometimes surprise myself when not taking something as gospel but looking for, and once in a while FINDING a better way. Tip o the hat to the oldtimers, for whom we owe a debt.
Unfortunately when it comes to cars, Grandads' tips are too often the worst advice. Sometimes simply obsolete, but sometimes actually contrary to modern technologies.
very melancholy watching this as my dad did the same. He had some great ways to salvage projects that would have stalled if not for ideas like this passed on as his dad did for him. You worked with what you had, he grew up during the depression years and they used what was on hand
Just throwing a little info out . They make thread files , metric and fractional , that have four different threads on each end . Another tool that is necessary is a couple of knife files , 6in. and 8 in. . They get right down and clean and cut better threads .
Great idea. I would thread a nut all the way down the bolt before cutting the slot. Then, when I remove the nut, the nut will clean the threads where the hacksaw has left burs. (My dad also was a mechanic.)
A good idea, but I would point out that in the demo, there wasn't a nut. The bolt entered a hole in the engine. Nevertheless thanks for the enhancement to this excellent tip.
If you could get a nut on it then you wouldn't have a problem to begin with. The whole reason for slotting the bolt was to so it would taper down and get to fresh threads.
heck yeah! such common sense... it makes me ashamed at 66 that I never thought of this myself... But I always tried to re thread it or (saving everything) look into coffee cans for another bolt..This way would have been faster.. thanks Gerard!
Common practice known about it for 4 decades personally, not good practice. Its a form of thread cutting/chasing except this instance the tapped hole will now become tapered where the start untill it pulls back in to line will be virtually unusable/oversize!
The older the coffee can - the better the goodies inside! Inherited coffee cans from generations past are the best!! All kinds of do-dads, thing-a-ma-jigs, doodle-bops and zoinkle-buds.
Amazing video. I was always taught by my years of mechanic experience, that 80 to 90% of the torque on a bolt was held within the 1st 3 to 5 threads after the base seating of the head of the bolt. Very. Very good advice!
It's not really a big deal to hand start it. Get the bolt on your socket attached to your impact. Drive that thing in, who cares if its crossed threaded. The only time you run into trouble is if you are the next guy who has to take it out.
As a service writer? I've only been a mechanic 12 years but I've pulled self tapping bolts out of hundreds of cars that were installed at the factory...
I don't think this modified bolt tapped the hole. What it did was as the author stated allow the bolt to enter the channel following the original threads (the threads created when the hole was tapped). Using the term "self-tapping" to describe what happened here would be incorrect. No "tapping" actually occurred. However, where the bolt was cut the outside of the bolt is slightly less in diameter as compared to the uncut part of the bold. So the cut should probably be made for a short a distance as possible. A way of overcoming that (the diameter being lessened) would be to cut a metal wedge with the wide end being the same width of the cut and then insert the narrow end of the wedge into the cut in the bolt but not all the way. Thus, after the bolt has been started the wide part of the wedge will eventually "bottom out" and the wedge will be driven up into the bolt and eventually the lower part of the cut end will resume the original diameter of the bolt. Way overkill though I think. Just cutting the bolt for only a short distance would probably in almost all cases provide enough thread contact to secure the bolt. But that would depend upon the length of the bolt to some degree.
ANOTHER WONDERFUL EXAMPLE OF THE FACT THAT WE ALL STAND ON THE SHOULDERS OF THOSE THAT HAVE GONE BEFORE US. Thank you for sharing sir. God bless. Semper fi
The update info below is the pinned comment on this video, I know most people do not realize I made that video and it better explains/shows this method in use. I also included below details of why the job was done this way free of charge with the customer fully informed. I hope you check it out 👇👇 UPDATE* I decided to make a follow up video on this ua-cam.com/video/yfNQullGEuQ/v-deo.html Should answer some of the questions that were raised, I include 3 demos of this in action with close up shots. As there was some safety concerns & confusing comments raised, I felt I should clear a few things up. 1) This is a tip for certain circumstances only, I never have and never would use it on a component which would cause any safety concern to any customer. 2) The demo was done on a support bracket only, items like this or similar will not cause any safety concern. 3) I did this free of charge and on a time restraint, I noticed it when I was replacing another item, the customer needed the vehicle back that evening and I decided rather than leave it like it was, I would do this and secure it up fully. 4) The bolt was not the issue, the part that the bolt threads into is a secured piece, someone had previously damaged it, leaving the bracket loose and the bolt just tightened a turn or so. 5) The bolt can be removed and will not break, it will go in and out as usual and has helped clean up the damaged threads. 6) Used in the right application I personally believe this is a great tip and can save you a lot of time & trouble. Lastly to all the people who have watched the video, Thanks very much and I am delighted with the feedback I have received on it.
It may add a bit of "give" that allows collapse, but it really is just making a thread chasing tap out of the bolt. The saw kerf gives a cutting face to the thread, as well as a spot for the "chip" of butchered thread removed to accumulate. Same way those self tapping machine thread bolts work, only a cross groove instead of a pie wedge. Great hack either way!
Speaking of thread chasing: I was going to suggest that he chase this bolt first to clean up the threads, making them "sharper" or more defined, then use the hacksaw to cut longitudinally into the bolt shaft. The video also reminded me to use a bit of oil or cutting fluid each time I'm cutting metal with a hacksaw. Cutting "dry" wears a sawblade out faster, similar to the need for using a few drops of oil while you're tapping new threads (or chasing old ones). Great tip, Gerard; thanks for sharing it with us.
perhaps so, d m, but actually understanding the action occurring is a step toward applying the same in other situations. the "right fix" is to run a starter tap down the hole, and dress the butchered thread. but, in that spot, it would be a chore and a half, and probably end up just butchering the thread more. his "hack" is a great real world compromise, though technically, he's chasing the thread to the bolt, which could be a tad chewed also. knowing he's actually tapping the hole, a bright lad might be inspired to use the same technique to tap a hole that has no existing threads, or to slot a nut to correct the threads on a bolt or stud, etc.
From one young dog still learning new tricks to the teachers all around, thank you, I've picked up so many tricks like this and others due to everyone's experiences
Gerard Burke Great job, well done to your Father for showing you this. I've had problems with post trolleys in the job I do, wheels kept coming loose, not able to get them to thread. Must try this if we ever get another, it would save throwing them away.
Here’s something I’ve learned from my dad too. My dad died last year when my family couldn't remember his blood type in time for the paramedics to give him a blood transfusion. As he was dying he kept insisting "be positive", but it's hard without him.
Kick ass brother! I thank you and your dad! Specialized in stainless steel welding and fitting for close to 25 years & as journeyman since 01, and that would have gotten me out of so many head aches... And now it's going to save me from many many to come! Cheerz!
Yes I agree with you 100%. The trouble with putting stuff like this on UA-cam is that you have to make sure that people don’t go off and do it to high tensile bolts or similar without thinking about it first. You will most likely get some idiot trying it out on their wheel nutts😂😂😂😂
That was an approved repair in the 50s and 60s on non safety or non load bearing parts. Brackets certainly were one of the repairs and the cut could not exceed 1/4 of the thread length.
@@nikispaniki If I remember right, The Ford manuals of the 60's showed how to do this. Ford muffler and resonator as well as hangers were put on with this kind of self tapper. And of course the parts department would never have any. Sound familiar? I can't remember if manuals of the 50s or 70s had the "If ya need one but ain't got one paragraph. We used to keep em because they came in handy.
@@briansnyder8494 FoMoCo sold self-tapping bolts that were center cut to fix stripped oil pan plugs back in the '60s-'70s. I bought a few to fix leaky pans.
@@josephtravers777 Don't tell anybody, but by the mid-70's I had left FoMoCo and gone to GM. lol. But you are right, I remember panplugs being self threading.
The update info below is the pinned comment on this video, I know most people do not realize I made that video and it better explains/shows this method in use. I also included below details of why the job was done this way free of charge with the customer fully informed. I hope you check it out 👇👇 UPDATE* I decided to make a follow up video on this ua-cam.com/video/yfNQullGEuQ/v-deo.html Should answer some of the questions that were raised, I include 3 demos of this in action with close up shots. As there was some safety concerns & confusing comments raised, I felt I should clear a few things up. 1) This is a tip for certain circumstances only, I never have and never would use it on a component which would cause any safety concern to any customer. 2) The demo was done on a support bracket only, items like this or similar will not cause any safety concern. 3) I did this free of charge and on a time restraint, I noticed it when I was replacing another item, the customer needed the vehicle back that evening and I decided rather than leave it like it was, I would do this and secure it up fully. 4) The bolt was not the issue, the part that the bolt threads into is a secured piece, someone had previously damaged it, leaving the bracket loose and the bolt just tightened a turn or so. 5) The bolt can be removed and will not break, it will go in and out as usual and has helped clean up the damaged threads. 6) Used in the right application I personally believe this is a great tip and can save you a lot of time & trouble. Lastly to all the people who have watched the video, Thanks very much and I am delighted with the feedback I have received on it.
I use this method before with a bigger Bolt. I needed to connect two steel cables together and I had no clamp it worked perfectly just slide the two cable ends together between the bolt then thread the nut on.
that might actually be superfluous as the split bolt performs a cam over action on the misaligned hole or slot and if it is a bottoming thread you run out of room.
@@peterweller8583 No real right or wrong. We must each analyze the condition of the parts we are working with and proceed in a manner that will be successful in completing the project.
@@combrogi ahhh well that is where me and your father differs. I have tools that i didn't even know i needed til the day i needed them. I know i am lame lol
I used a similar technique to re-tap a hole in my transmission when I was swapping out shift springs. I the size tap I needed was like $200, that was insane, and thought I was screwed. Then got to thinking how a tap worked. Got out the Dremel and cut two slits on each side, and I was able to get it fixed. Very good info to pass along. Not many have the mechanical expertise to come up with this solution.
I have also used castleated (castle) nuts turned over to chase threads on a lightly d ac imaged bolt when a tap is not available. Or you can make one from a nut much in the same way. I typically use a die grinder though.
I have made these in the past to chase threads. Once installed and feels good, I remove it and replace it with a spec bolt once I know the threads are good. Seems like this application was a bracket used to hold a dipstick or something non critical but important so torque is not a big deal. Could leave the bolt in as is.
i would say it will be very useful on the struts...I had this problem while helping a friend the other day putting a strut bolt in..we ended up putting the bolt in from the bottom upside down at an angle..A vise wasnt handy..
@@raymondbucher49 you know strut bolts are directional and I wouldn't recommend cutting any bolt that holds sny suspension parts. That's alot of weight on them struts to take away from the structural integrity of the bolt.
I turned this around and showed it to my grandfather. It was on a 1910 model t. I didn't learn it from a UA-cam video just a hard day of figuring out methods. Use am angle grinder and get slice it in half. Get ready to get the bolt off and have an extra pair of pliers. When that cut is still hot you can squeeze the gap from the angle grinder to clear the bolt.
Use a thread file for fixing the starting threads. After a few strokes of the thread file you should be able to to thread it into a thread chaser or die to clean it up even more if needed. The hole alignment is a different issue that should be fixed separately, not cutting the bolt.
The update info below is the pinned comment on this video, I know most people do not realize I made that video and it better explains/shows this method in use. I also included below details of why the job was done this way free of charge with the customer fully informed. I hope you check it out 👇👇 UPDATE* I decided to make a follow up video on this ua-cam.com/video/yfNQullGEuQ/v-deo.html Should answer some of the questions that were raised, I include 3 demos of this in action with close up shots. As there was some safety concerns & confusing comments raised, I felt I should clear a few things up. 1) This is a tip for certain circumstances only, I never have and never would use it on a component which would cause any safety concern to any customer. 2) The demo was done on a support bracket only, items like this or similar will not cause any safety concern. 3) I did this free of charge and on a time restraint, I noticed it when I was replacing another item, the customer needed the vehicle back that evening and I decided rather than leave it like it was, I would do this and secure it up fully. 4) The bolt was not the issue, the part that the bolt threads into is a secured piece, someone had previously damaged it, leaving the bracket loose and the bolt just tightened a turn or so. 5) The bolt can be removed and will not break, it will go in and out as usual and has helped clean up the damaged threads. 6) Used in the right application I personally believe this is a great tip and can save you a lot of time & trouble. Lastly to all the people who have watched the video, Thanks very much and I am delighted with the feedback I have received on it.
***UPDATE**** I decided to make a follow up video on this ua-cam.com/video/yfNQullGEuQ/v-deo.html Should answer some of the questions that were raised, I include 3 demos of this in action with close up shots.
As there was some safety concerns & confusing comments raised, I felt I should clear a few things up.
1) This is a tip for certain circumstances only, I never have and never would use it on a component which would cause any safety concern to any customer.
2) The demo was done on a support bracket only, items like this or similar will not cause any safety concern.
3) I did this free of charge and on a time restraint, I noticed it when I was replacing another item, the customer needed the vehicle back that evening and I decided rather than leave it like it was, I would do this and secure it up fully.
4) The bolt was not the issue, the part that the bolt threads into is a secured piece, someone had previously damaged it, leaving the bracket loose and the bolt just tightened a turn or so.
5) The bolt can be removed and will not break, it will go in and out as usual and has helped clean up the damaged threads.
6) Used in the right application I personally believe this is a great tip and can save you a lot of time & trouble.
Lastly to all the people who have watched the video, Thanks very much and I am delighted with the feedback I have received on it.
For you to make six specific points means there has be Whinging by people on a mega scale because you present a handy tip to viewers. If they need to complain about what you presented then they are obviously not fully understanding what they just saw. It is self explanatory, I thought and a good handy tip to fix someone's cock-up! John, Australia.
joandar1 common sense is not that common at all Johnno
Interesting, never seen exactly that before, but I have a hard time picturing a situation where this is a better solution then putting a taper/pilot shaft on the bolt though. This strikes me that it would create a situation that makes it much more likely to cross the threads and damage the female threads making the situation worse.
Also if you have one, some amazing things can be done with a thread file, a drastically underrated tool. Use a thread file to taper the threads and you create a kind of self tapping self aligning bolt. Some factory body bolts are like that.
Problem with your "tip" is that you are passing on bad practice rather than teaching people the correct method.
There's a strong possibility that people will apply this technique to safety critical components because a "mechanic" showed them a neat little trick rather than the correct way.
Mechanics get a bad name as it is, due to dodgy practices by some, your video just reinforces it and these other halfwits that are defending your "hack" are just as bad.
This video just advertises to everyone that you are too lazy to do a job properly.
Who taught you to do that?
It would have been faster to run a tappered tap down rather than sawing the bolt if the previous guy cross threaded them at any rate. Literally takes all of a minute. Just take the extra second to align the tap properly. Don't be afraid of one of the best tools in your box.
I almost want to make an instructional video on restoring threads now. Especially for down in a tight spot in a blind hole. Bit camera shy thought lol.
Tip: Before cutting the bolt, screw a nut onto the bolt down to the head. Cut the slot and upon removing the nut, it'll clean up the bolt threads ...
Was just about to tell him the same.
I do that when cutting threaded rod also
@@gellotion
Great minds ...
@@gellotion Same here, good to see that this knowledge is still around.
Yup. Always
Excellent tip!
When an old man dies a library burns down..
Very true, learn from them while you have them.
I remember doing this with my dad in 1969 to repair the clutch linkage on a 65 Mercury Comet that had been totaled by a pecan tree falling on it. The bolt hole had wallowed out and it looked like the only recourse was to tap and thread the hole in an almost impossible place to access. I thought my teenage arms would fall off as I hacksawed that bolt. It worked and the clutch linkage quit falling a p apart. Dad was unique in that way!
When my library burned down a dozens of old people died.
It's not only mechanical tips or knowledge. Where ever you are, make sure you talk to older friends or family members (record whatever you find worthwhile keeping).
It all adds up to a better future for all of us!
@@colorin81colorado Definately agree. When my father was ill I took a small tape player along on visits and recorded some of our chit chat. Now, 30 years later I have those memories and the ability to hear him again. JG
Young people do no realize how lucky they are haveing youtube and people like you sharing your knowledge .(Thanks to your dad ). For me i have one foot in the grave. God bless.
Thanks for the kind words 🙏🙏
Yeah, me too. Im a U tube mechanic. If it wasnt gor it, i couldnt do half the stuff i do to my cars, truck, etc... saved alot of money. I once had an a/c problem on my truck. Mechanics told me my compressor was bad. I knew it wasnt somehow, but i kept watching videos of the same issues others had like mine. Come to find out, it was my temperature probe sensor underneath the glove compartment. 13.00 bucks was the fix. I went back to all the mechanic's and shamed them. Thanks u tubers!!
Very true. I didn't have a Father, the internet has taught me so much information. It baffles me how many ppl I meet that are stuck on a particular task that a simple search would show them the answer.
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IF your having trouble getting the other foot in, just cut it down the middle (bonus, it's self lubricating).
My apprentice master used to tell me, "Huey, I pay for the whole hacksaw blade, so use all of it".
🤦♂️🤦♂️I thought you were quoting something he said in the video, so I watched it 2 more times, the 2nd time with subtitles, only to find out I'm a retard.
Slow and steady vs quick and fast..... well that depends on the mood Hughbert :0
The update info below is the pinned comment on this video, I know most people do not realize I made that video and it better explains/shows this method in use.
I also included below details of why the job was done this way free of charge with the customer fully informed. I hope you check it out 👇👇
UPDATE* I decided to make a follow up video on this ua-cam.com/video/yfNQullGEuQ/v-deo.html Should answer some of the questions that were raised, I include 3 demos of this in action with close up shots.
As there was some safety concerns & confusing comments raised, I felt I should clear a few things up.
1) This is a tip for certain circumstances only, I never have and never would use it on a component which would cause any safety concern to any customer.
2) The demo was done on a support bracket only, items like this or similar will not cause any safety concern.
3) I did this free of charge and on a time restraint, I noticed it when I was replacing another item, the customer needed the vehicle back that evening and I decided rather than leave it like it was, I would do this and secure it up fully.
4) The bolt was not the issue, the part that the bolt threads into is a secured piece, someone had previously damaged it, leaving the bracket loose and the bolt just tightened a turn or so.
5) The bolt can be removed and will not break, it will go in and out as usual and has helped clean up the damaged threads.
6) Used in the right application I personally believe this is a great tip and can save you a lot of time & trouble.
Lastly to all the people who have watched the video, Thanks very much and I am delighted with the feedback I have received on it.
@@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage I still say its a good one. Of course you may not be able to use it in all engineering applications where the integrity of the bolt is important but as you said, customer was happy and there was no safety risk so i say its a good one Gerard. I had a journeyman who taught me to handle tools as follows. Three one thumb. Middle, ring and little finger wrapped around shaft or handle to give torque. Index finger stretched out to guide the tool. Thumb wrapping and gripping the shaft. I never again broke a hacksaw blade. I cut straight lines in metal and wood. I use this on all tools and it had worked for me.
Haha! "Waste not want not" was a thing for me also...early on in life
thats a really good lesson ;p i was kinda triggered by his short stroke and fast moves aswel ;p
After 40 years as a machinist, I've certainly learned quite a few tricks over the years. This being one of them.
Thanks for passing this one along!
Machinist as well and i never thought of making videos of how our everyday fixes might help others.
Steve, I agree with you. I am 66 an work on and repaired many of cars an thing I’ve never seen or heard that before... I am working on a rebuild now that I’m having this kind of problem with now... Thank You for that great tip
@@msharon8119 please tell if it worked
Professional machinist(ticketed with some very fortunate experience)myself. Never seen this one. I prefer to recondition the thread, but I see value in this.
Tell me more
I'm 48 yrs old and love to listen. Thank you,your father and your generosity. Thank you for the knowledge you have shared with us. God bless you my brother.
Reminds me of the only dating advice my father gave me - "Everyone likes to talk. Few like to listen. Shut up and listen!"
50 here and would always hang out with the old timers sponging all the info I could. Still learning
Two years later this showed up in my “thread” better late than never and it’s in my tool box forever thankyou
Its a hacksaw hack!
Nice Tip , remember to always leave enough solid thread to equal ( 1.5 x Diameter ) . . According to the Machinist handbook , a thread should be 1.5 as long as it's diameter (considering it's a perfect thread) . That's fully inside the nut, or internal thread. That's as strong as it will ever be . . I always try to go more than that ( 2 x Dia ) to account for imperfect threads.. Regular commercial threads are not exactly perfect . They are great for what they do , but, Aircraft threads are perfect size . I've been a Machinist fort over 40 years .. I've made every kind of thread you can imagine .
As a professional, im glad to see others also struggle with that particular VW diesel Cat top bracket 😂😂.
🤣🤣
absolute bitch of a job haha
I'm not a pro, but I try. I had just installed a new billet pendulum dogbone mount arm and insert on my A3 without issue. So, I thought, why not install a similar thing on my 2012 VW Tiguan, because it has about 400 hp. I was being an idiot taking off the bolts with an 1/2" electric impact, but I got greedy and tried to install the 21mm or M14 bolt that hold the insert in with the impact and i damaged the beginning of the threads internally. This might remedy my issue. I saw a rethreading company called Tifco, which would just so happen to be about a mile from my home. But this fix is better and cheaper.
thats more than awesome,i took my car to the mechanic, to remove the gearbox oilpan for cleaning accumulated grime, but i later noticed that transmission oil was leaking,he damaged one of the four bolt holes and kept quite, the nut was simply not sealing, i found your video, and now the nut is so tight and no oil is leaking, your father is a great man indeed, thanks a lot with love from Botswana
Wow, your exact same situation happened to 32 different people!
"Necessity is mother of invention" thanks to u r father and u as well give solution to practical problem..
Indeed, nothing better than getting a mechanical problem solved via a video, and at 71 I am finally taking full advantage of this fact!
Vamsi V. The real secret is to fit all the bolts loosely before tightening any. If you do that there will never be any need to cut the bolt.
I miss my dad. Knowledge like this dies forever every day.
Ditto.
UA-cam is the new memory of mankind.
@@paulwhite8024 sadly not for long buddy :(
Funny how we've got Patrick, Paul, and Peter on this same comment :)
@@peter81083 why do you say that?
Thank you kindly for that Gerard! I've been a back-yard mechanic for just over forty years and have owned upwards of thirty vehicles, all of which required a lot of repair and road-side fixes. I did not know this very handy helper. I thank you and your Dad, and I certainly greatly appreciate you sharing!
Brilliant!
Duct tape.
Paul Homsy-you can’t seriously be that stupid can you?
Definitely duck tape
Excellent. Thank you for sharing this !!!! Pete
Or you could say "now you tell me!".
Neat trick! My dad woulda said "long, slow strokes, let the saw do the cutting, lad!"
exactly what my Dad said...
And the metalwork teacher would bellow "6 strokes a minute boy, not 60!" Not as scary as Nurse Ratshit, mind.
Yer muddier said the same thing
Or " use the whole blade , you paid for it"
LOL, my dad would say let the saw do the cutting too, something I'll have to teach on to my kids when I have them
There are so many great tricks from old mechanics. Those guys were so clever
My father was a mechanic, he taught me many good tricks, I do not think he knew this one. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks Kevin
I remember mechanics using this trick years ago when I worked in a gas station with an auto repair shop, when young. Cars were not made with close precision and tolerances, as they are today and there was more space and slop back then in the engine compartment. I almost forget about this technique until I saw it again here. Those old timers were quite clever back then. It brought back memories of an earlier time. Thanks.
As a toolmaker we always took a bolt to the bench grinder. With a well dressed wheel with a good sharp corned we then grind in a corner of the wheel into the end of the bolt. This simulates the leading edge of a tap and can be used to chase bad theeads, etc. if the bolt used is hardened, like a socket head cap screw for example, the bolt will actually cut a bit of thread as well.
I do this all the time.for cleaning up truck ubolt threads
I had completely forgotten this trick. My grandfather had used that technique and we actually used it quite a bit on old equipment from the 20’s 50’s on our ranch.
Wow all those times I've struggled fixing these problems and then this comes up. I will never forget this idea your father has taught me. Thanks bro. 🙂
Thank you Kevin
Great tip! A Dremel tool (or similar) with a cutting disc would also be a perfect tool for making the cut.
I never had a father. So this video helped me out heaps. Thanks!
I’m sure you had a father, you may not have known him but you had one.
*NO ONE IS EVER TRULY LOST WHEN SAVED, OR BORN AGAIN, WE WILL SEE THEM AGAIN IF WE'RE SAVED AND BORN AGAIN--THIS LIFE IS ONLY TEMPORARY, BUT THE NEXT ONE IS FOREVER! ;-)*
B strong bro.
Just a tip I learned from my father. When using a hacksaw or a file never put downward pressure on the backstroke the teeth only cut one way and putting pressure on the backstroke just breaks the teeth.
Jake Ginter Thanku !for sharing ! good to know 👍
Great tip. I didn't know that.
@@marmitesmate I'm a woodworker and often using Japanese saws that have a backwards power stroke. I am wondering if forward strokes in hard wood would dull the Japanese woodsaws?
So now my exercise is cut in half. Haha.
Thanks for mentioning your Da as much as ya did.
Every time I think of my father's contribution to my life, I really appreciate him.
Our Dads are important.
I'm a Dad.
I guess, I'm just needing to know being appreciated, is possible.
Being remembered is possible
Great tip. Love it. Love the whole thing about “what my father taught me.” I hope you don’t mind me passing on something my father drummed into me - use the whole of the hacksaw blade.😀👍
Chris Curnow to right! Also have teeth the facing the right way
The bahaha the...the
One pass is the cutting, the other direction is to clean the cut or teath. That's what my grandfather passed on to me....
The comments here are right. He both used the saw like a child and the blade was the wrong way. Nonetheless he tried to make a helpful video, I think that counts the most.
Using whole of the blade gives power and speed, using a shorter bit gives control and accuracy.
If you are not very good with a tool, do it the way you you can control it, even if it requires more work.
Are you sure we didn't have the same Dad?! BRILLIANT!
Ha ha Who knows :) Thanks very much
Then who is the bastard? Lol
You might have to ask your mother about this
Same thing can be accomplished by grinding a groove down one side of the bolt on the edge of a grinding wheel. The bolt will act like a self tapping screw. Great tip thank you I will try it next time I encounter a stubborn starting bolt !
Or two grooves on opposite sides of the bolt...works just as good.
Dads always have the best knowledge.
Also over 6.8 million views, good going.
The update info below is the pinned comment on this video, I know most people do not realize I made that video and it better explains/shows this method in use.
I also included below details of why the job was done this way free of charge with the customer fully informed. I hope you check it out 👇👇
UPDATE* I decided to make a follow up video on this ua-cam.com/video/yfNQullGEuQ/v-deo.html Should answer some of the questions that were raised, I include 3 demos of this in action with close up shots.
As there was some safety concerns & confusing comments raised, I felt I should clear a few things up.
1) This is a tip for certain circumstances only, I never have and never would use it on a component which would cause any safety concern to any customer.
2) The demo was done on a support bracket only, items like this or similar will not cause any safety concern.
3) I did this free of charge and on a time restraint, I noticed it when I was replacing another item, the customer needed the vehicle back that evening and I decided rather than leave it like it was, I would do this and secure it up fully.
4) The bolt was not the issue, the part that the bolt threads into is a secured piece, someone had previously damaged it, leaving the bracket loose and the bolt just tightened a turn or so.
5) The bolt can be removed and will not break, it will go in and out as usual and has helped clean up the damaged threads.
6) Used in the right application I personally believe this is a great tip and can save you a lot of time & trouble.
Lastly to all the people who have watched the video, Thanks very much and I am delighted with the feedback I have received on it.
Your Dad is a smart man - thank you for passing it on- God Bless
To help to prevent cross-threading, start it, by turning counter-clockwise first. You'll feel the the treads pop into place, for clockwise tightening.
It always works well, for bolts, nuts, screws, and the like.
You'll like it.
John Heigis I’ve done that for years and I always have someone tell me I’m threading it backwards try to explain but most people don’t get it
Learned that from my late father-law-law 45 years ago. It worked then and now.
Never seen it fail.
Doesn’t work on bolts manufactured after 2015
Great tip from You and your Dad, thanks! I remember being about 7 or 8 years old and my dad saying, "if only i knew what i know now at your age.." amusing comment at my young age..but it was such a profound statement. We could learn so much if we had the opportunity and patience (as youngsters) to shadow our Dads (and Moms) through part of our daily life. Sadly my Dad passed away in Sep 2008.
Great tip Gerard, I remember being taught this tip by an old mechanic when I was a sixteen year old apprentice. One of those little tips you never forget. Made me smile remembering those days (it was a while ago 😊).
💪💪👌👌
Great tip, you are essentially creating a self-tapping bolt by doing this. A Dremel tool with a cutoff wheel can also be used to cut the slot.
Black Waterdogs I was thinking the same thing. Would be faster too.
And would cause a lot of heat, potentially weakening the bolt
Not a BFD, it`s only a HOLD-DOWN bolt, not a highly-stressed SUPPORT bolt.
i like the dremel idea
Nice tip about the hacksaw. ATF as a cutting fluid was cool. I used my dremel to notch a bolt to make a tap just last week. I've done it many times. Real taps work much better though.
Absolute humdinger of an idea..take a bow
Thanks a lot Conor :)
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And keep your finger on the disc, to make sure your cut is nice and straight 👍 OMG, of course a finger on the hacksaw frame will assist with your steering, but effs. Don't fully grown men have more significant things to discuss? Like, I don't know, perhaps How wonderful Mr Trump tells us he is or something!
"You can't teach an old dog new tricks." Well this video just proved that statement wrong. I am an old dog and I just learned a new trick. Thanks, that hack is brilliant. Thank you
Biden
you'll never remember because of alzheimers
Thanks dillwizard
I love this 'Dad hack' so much I plan to pass it along to everyone I know. Thanks for sharing...that's what it's all about! Be kind to your fellow man, love they neighbor, you learned this awesome hack, passed your knowledge on to me and others and I thank you for that. You rock!!!
Thank you Wendy
I've been in this situation a few times so thank you! I will remember this.
Brilliant! Essentially you are allowing the bolt tip to taper around the damaged threads
I did this to a short piece of half inch threaded pipe, it worked like a cheap tap and recut the damaged threads in the brass shower fitting I was working on.
Great tip man. My old man showed me a lot of tricks but never this !
Your father is a very wise man and he taught you well.
*taught
John Smith corrected ! , sorry for typo.
Thanks for the tip!
If you have a likely stubborn bolt, try tightening it more BEFORE attempting to loosen it. It'll be less likely to break or to strip threads.
Really?
I will try that. Unfortunately I deal with quite a few seized bolts on aging equipment and I usually break them.
@@gardenwasteman1600 :)
You worded that very poorly. You wouldn't know the bolt was stubborn until you tried loosening it. What you should have said if you find a bolt is stubborn, try tightening it just one degree to break it loose. Another trick is to tap on it with a hammer while turning if you don't have an impact wrench available... hopefully you can have a second person tapping it for you while you turn.. and or using a cheater bar.. or using a second wrench as a cheater bar hooking the 2 wrenches together to make it longer..
Excellent tip. I've been tinkering with cars for fifty years and there have been many times where this hack would have helped. I'm also going to share it with my son and grandson Thanks!
Or you cold learn the correct way and pass that on with confidence that your son and grandson are learning the correct method of repairing things.
Which you would have included in your reply if you had a clue what the "correct way " was. But you don't... so all we got was this smart-ass reply.
McScott76 cover tour butt repair when you install things wrong
Jim Prong , find something else to tinker with, if you work on car for 50 years you should know all the tricks.
My Grandfather said, "Learn to cut your nails with your left hand. You never know when your right hand will get cut off."
Smart man.
his wisdom came from his ballsack
... oh, toenails
heheh, right.
would be a riot if your left hand gets cut off
@@lordjaashin this is horrible when taken out of context
I can see your tidy shop in the background which to me signifies a professional at work (and adds credit to your advice). Thank you for the tip.
Very informative, if all us young guys listened to our Dads & Grandads we would make jobs easier for our selves
Back in the day folks had to make do on their own. So people got inventive. We've lost a lot of that through our ability to just "call someone". It's only gotten worse with the net. On the positive side the net gives you tips like this one. And makes one WANT to figure things out on their own. I sometimes surprise myself when not taking something as gospel but looking for, and once in a while FINDING a better way. Tip o the hat to the oldtimers, for whom we owe a debt.
Unfortunately when it comes to cars, Grandads' tips are too often the worst advice. Sometimes simply obsolete, but sometimes actually contrary to modern technologies.
yea but why do they gotta be such assholes
I was absolutely amazed at how much my father learned when I turned 30.
RONS BEERS & TOOLS I tell my son the same thing all the time.
very melancholy watching this as my dad did the same. He had some great ways to salvage projects that would have stalled if not for ideas like this passed on as his dad did for him. You worked with what you had, he grew up during the depression years and they used what was on hand
you must be a very good son, for honoring a father’s work.
to us parents: sometimes, we just have to tell our kids about our past.
Yes, your Father is a smart man.! God Bless , and again, thank you 🙏🏻
Thank you, Gerard. I imagine you just saved me from throwing a tool through my garage drywall sometime in the (not too distant) future....
Just throwing a little info out . They make thread files , metric and fractional , that have four different threads on each end . Another tool that is necessary is a couple of knife files , 6in. and 8 in. . They get right down and clean and cut better threads .
Great idea. I would thread a nut all the way down the bolt before cutting the slot. Then, when I remove the nut, the nut will clean the threads where the hacksaw has left burs. (My dad also was a mechanic.)
great idea!
@@JohnJones1987 There is an added benefit. The nut holds the bolt-nut assembly steadier than a bolt alone when you saw a bolt in a vise.
A good idea, but I would point out that in the demo, there wasn't a nut. The bolt entered a hole in the engine. Nevertheless thanks for the enhancement to this excellent tip.
If you could get a nut on it then you wouldn't have a problem to begin with. The whole reason for slotting the bolt was to so it would taper down and get to fresh threads.
@@Watthead80 There was nothing wrong with the thread on the bolt. It was the bolt hole.
Cheers Gerard you have just saved me £147 I was quoted from my local mechanic , I did it your way and it worked first time
Knowing this could’ve saved me SO MUCH TIME AND ENERGY. Dammit, I live UA-cam. Thanks!
🙏🙏👌👌
My late father showed me that hack several decades ago and I have used it and shared it many many times thanks for the share!
Paul Norman h
heck yeah! such common sense... it makes me ashamed at 66 that I never thought of this myself... But I always tried to re thread it or (saving everything) look into coffee cans for another bolt..This way would have been faster.. thanks Gerard!
tinkmarshino gotta love those coffee cans and glass jars with lids nailed to under side of cabinets.
Common practice known about it for 4 decades personally, not good practice.
Its a form of thread cutting/chasing except this instance the tapped hole will now become tapered where the start untill it pulls back in to line will be virtually unusable/oversize!
tinkmarshino the coffee cans..
The older the coffee can - the better the goodies inside! Inherited coffee cans from generations past are the best!! All kinds of do-dads, thing-a-ma-jigs, doodle-bops and zoinkle-buds.
It's nice to see that all these little old school shadetree mechanic's tricks are still around.
sure makes life as a 10 year tech a lot easier.
Amazing video. I was always taught by my years of mechanic experience, that 80 to 90% of the torque on a bolt was held within the 1st 3 to 5 threads after the base seating of the head of the bolt. Very. Very good advice!
I don't tighten anything until all bolts are hand threaded.... good idea
You'd be surprised how many people don't do that
Take out the hardest one to get out first. Don’t wait till the end to put the hardest one in place.
It's not really a big deal to hand start it. Get the bolt on your socket attached to your impact. Drive that thing in, who cares if its crossed threaded. The only time you run into trouble is if you are the next guy who has to take it out.
@@HermitsHome yeah because that's the honorable thing to do....
Cross-threaded bolts don't need loctite 🤷♂️
I was married to a mechanic for 32 years - and I never saw him do this! Very helpful - will def show this to my sons!
he was a good mechanic thats why
Great tip! I’ve been in the automotive industry since 94 and I have never seen this before. Well done.
As a service writer? I've only been a mechanic 12 years but I've pulled self tapping bolts out of hundreds of cars that were installed at the factory...
Derrick Hodges This is no ordinary self taping bolt.
I don't think this modified bolt tapped the hole. What it did was as the author stated allow the bolt to enter the channel following the original threads (the threads created when the hole was tapped). Using the term "self-tapping" to describe what happened here would be incorrect. No "tapping" actually occurred.
However, where the bolt was cut the outside of the bolt is slightly less in diameter as compared to the uncut part of the bold. So the cut should probably be made for a short a distance as possible.
A way of overcoming that (the diameter being lessened) would be to cut a metal wedge with the wide end being the same width of the cut and then insert the narrow end of the wedge into the cut in the bolt but not all the way. Thus, after the bolt has been started the wide part of the wedge will eventually "bottom out" and the wedge will be driven up into the bolt and eventually the lower part of the cut end will resume the original diameter of the bolt. Way overkill though I think. Just cutting the bolt for only a short distance would probably in almost all cases provide enough thread contact to secure the bolt. But that would depend upon the length of the bolt to some degree.
pffft i've been in the automotive industry for 2 days and i already knew this.
Awesome thanks
ANOTHER WONDERFUL EXAMPLE OF THE FACT THAT WE ALL STAND ON THE SHOULDERS OF THOSE THAT HAVE GONE BEFORE US. Thank you for sharing sir. God bless. Semper fi
The update info below is the pinned comment on this video, I know most people do not realize I made that video and it better explains/shows this method in use.
I also included below details of why the job was done this way free of charge with the customer fully informed. I hope you check it out 👇👇
UPDATE* I decided to make a follow up video on this ua-cam.com/video/yfNQullGEuQ/v-deo.html Should answer some of the questions that were raised, I include 3 demos of this in action with close up shots.
As there was some safety concerns & confusing comments raised, I felt I should clear a few things up.
1) This is a tip for certain circumstances only, I never have and never would use it on a component which would cause any safety concern to any customer.
2) The demo was done on a support bracket only, items like this or similar will not cause any safety concern.
3) I did this free of charge and on a time restraint, I noticed it when I was replacing another item, the customer needed the vehicle back that evening and I decided rather than leave it like it was, I would do this and secure it up fully.
4) The bolt was not the issue, the part that the bolt threads into is a secured piece, someone had previously damaged it, leaving the bracket loose and the bolt just tightened a turn or so.
5) The bolt can be removed and will not break, it will go in and out as usual and has helped clean up the damaged threads.
6) Used in the right application I personally believe this is a great tip and can save you a lot of time & trouble.
Lastly to all the people who have watched the video, Thanks very much and I am delighted with the feedback I have received on it.
It may add a bit of "give" that allows collapse, but it really is just making a thread chasing tap out of the bolt. The saw kerf gives a cutting face to the thread, as well as a spot for the "chip" of butchered thread removed to accumulate. Same way those self tapping machine thread bolts work, only a cross groove instead of a pie wedge. Great hack either way!
Speaking of thread chasing: I was going to suggest that he chase this bolt first to clean up the threads, making them "sharper" or more defined, then use the hacksaw to cut longitudinally into the bolt shaft. The video also reminded me to use a bit of oil or cutting fluid each time I'm cutting metal with a hacksaw. Cutting "dry" wears a sawblade out faster, similar to the need for using a few drops of oil while you're tapping new threads (or chasing old ones). Great tip, Gerard; thanks for sharing it with us.
ludditeneaderthal
What a nerd
+d m Thank you 4 the great tip.👍
perhaps so, d m, but actually understanding the action occurring is a step toward applying the same in other situations. the "right fix" is to run a starter tap down the hole, and dress the butchered thread. but, in that spot, it would be a chore and a half, and probably end up just butchering the thread more. his "hack" is a great real world compromise, though technically, he's chasing the thread to the bolt, which could be a tad chewed also. knowing he's actually tapping the hole, a bright lad might be inspired to use the same technique to tap a hole that has no existing threads, or to slot a nut to correct the threads on a bolt or stud, etc.
ludditeneaderthal Agreed, but if it's 10:00pm and you don't have a tap or thread chaser....👍
Necessity is the mother of invention, thanks to Gerard's father :)
Thanks for sharing Gerard.
Thank you Sparky
Thanks for the tip, I wish I knew this 50 years ago.
From one young dog still learning new tricks to the teachers all around, thank you, I've picked up so many tricks like this and others due to everyone's experiences
Great hack ! I love it wish I had learned this years ago ! Thank You!
Gerard Burke Great job, well done to your Father for showing you this. I've had problems with post trolleys in the job I do, wheels kept coming loose, not able to get them to thread. Must try this if we ever get another, it would save throwing them away.
Here’s something I’ve learned from my dad too.
My dad died last year when my family couldn't remember his blood type in time for the paramedics to give him a blood transfusion.
As he was dying he kept insisting "be positive", but it's hard without him.
Moving On............. now I’m confused to give any reaction. What should I do 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Being a pessemist, my Dad couldn't help but to be negative !
B+
That's so depressing and funny at the same time
This is where you can use 😥😊 at the same time. Sorry you lost your dad, but you seem to be okay positive, that's the way forward.
Kick ass brother! I thank you and your dad! Specialized in stainless steel welding and fitting for close to 25 years & as journeyman since 01, and that would have gotten me out of so many head aches... And now it's going to save me from many many to come! Cheerz!
Commonly called a bodge. A useful tip I have always used is to do the job properly.
Yes I agree with you 100%.
The trouble with putting stuff like this on UA-cam is that you have to make sure that people don’t go off and do it to high tensile bolts or similar without thinking about it first. You will most likely get some idiot trying it out on their wheel nutts😂😂😂😂
Well, yeah. But where I go Off-roading, something like this could be the difference between dinner at home or dinner for coyotes.
I like those son and dad days.. were dad teaches us some things on Sunday 😍😍
Yes, take full advantage of them my friend, it too late when you dad gone!
QWE , where, should have taught you to spell.
Nice tip! My dad also taught me how to repair just about anything or at least have a go. My kids are simply not interested!
They have too many phones and video games to care for anything practical. Sadly, my nephew is the same way.
you are thier mother are probably giving them too much..
Steve. Thanks for all of your help. It is greatly appreciated
GREAT TIP
Fender bolts used to use tapered threads at the end but that was because there was no concern about clearance/bottoming.
Thats why you should buy a Gibson
Thank you Gerard. I found that useful, and I'm sure I'd use it someday soon! Thanks for passing it down!
That was an approved repair in the 50s and 60s on non safety or non load bearing parts. Brackets certainly were one of the repairs and the cut could not exceed 1/4 of the thread length.
Thank you.
Knew the trick but didn’t know the 1/4 length spec. As one old timer to another “Thanks”
@@nikispaniki If I remember right, The Ford manuals of the 60's showed how to do this. Ford muffler and resonator as well as hangers were put on with this kind of self tapper. And of course the parts department would never have any. Sound familiar? I can't remember if manuals of the 50s or 70s had the "If ya need one but ain't got one paragraph. We used to keep em because they came in handy.
@@briansnyder8494 FoMoCo sold self-tapping bolts that were center cut to fix stripped oil pan plugs back in the '60s-'70s. I bought a few to fix leaky pans.
@@josephtravers777 Don't tell anybody, but by the mid-70's I had left FoMoCo and gone to GM. lol. But you are right, I remember panplugs being self threading.
Now that is one helluva hack move, freakin awesome. Thanks to you and your father for both sharing. Cheers!
The update info below is the pinned comment on this video, I know most people do not realize I made that video and it better explains/shows this method in use.
I also included below details of why the job was done this way free of charge with the customer fully informed. I hope you check it out 👇👇
UPDATE* I decided to make a follow up video on this ua-cam.com/video/yfNQullGEuQ/v-deo.html Should answer some of the questions that were raised, I include 3 demos of this in action with close up shots.
As there was some safety concerns & confusing comments raised, I felt I should clear a few things up.
1) This is a tip for certain circumstances only, I never have and never would use it on a component which would cause any safety concern to any customer.
2) The demo was done on a support bracket only, items like this or similar will not cause any safety concern.
3) I did this free of charge and on a time restraint, I noticed it when I was replacing another item, the customer needed the vehicle back that evening and I decided rather than leave it like it was, I would do this and secure it up fully.
4) The bolt was not the issue, the part that the bolt threads into is a secured piece, someone had previously damaged it, leaving the bracket loose and the bolt just tightened a turn or so.
5) The bolt can be removed and will not break, it will go in and out as usual and has helped clean up the damaged threads.
6) Used in the right application I personally believe this is a great tip and can save you a lot of time & trouble.
Lastly to all the people who have watched the video, Thanks very much and I am delighted with the feedback I have received on it.
I use this method before with a bigger Bolt. I needed to connect two steel cables together and I had no clamp it worked perfectly just slide the two cable ends together between the bolt then thread the nut on.
That's a very clever idea, thanks !
Who else is thinking, "Man I wish I knew this that time when I was working on..... (fill in the blank)" Great vid, thanks!
Heck yeah! I have great tips too. Come check them out.
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Ha ha! Yep!
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No one because when you that bolt let's go you are going to hate your life.
@540 MUDSTAIN common sense would dictate do it right or not at all.
I had one situation like that. I wish I’d seen this video a long time ago. Thanks for the tip.
I don't believe it!
An actual useful and genuine hack on youtube.
Tanks, Gerard.
Also if you shorten a screw, screw on a nut before, so you can unscrew it later, and get the thread back into position.
Leberkas Semmel yeah, and if you forget that just tapper the end off with a grinder
Was going to say the same...lol
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Ty Gerard for the information you given us you made someone life easier well done 👍🏻👏😊
Thank you for being a kind soul.
Thanks for sharing. My father taught me this will make more people watch. They feel it comes from experienced person & is time tested.
To make this even more effective, taper the end of the bolt slightly on a grinder to aid in properly entering the receiving threads.
that might actually be superfluous as the split bolt performs a cam over action on the misaligned hole or slot and if it is a bottoming thread you run out of room.
@@peterweller8583 No real right or wrong. We must each analyze the condition of the parts we are working with and proceed in a manner that will be successful in completing the project.
Good job!! Very used full! Exept if the bolt continues to produce rust then it will break and never come out in one piece.
Anti sieze....
My dad always said, 'If it doesn't fit, use a hammer, if it still doesn't fit use a bigger hammer' mind you he was drunk most of the time! 😜
Addendum: If it breaks it wasn’t worth fixing anyhow.
Funny you say that, i many hammers and never knew why. Now i do lmao
Gm Kof Hard My mother always said my father had a hammer for every occasion but no other tools 😬
@@combrogi ahhh well that is where me and your father differs. I have tools that i didn't even know i needed til the day i needed them. I know i am lame lol
@@GmKofHard Be greatful for your good fortune.
I used a similar technique to re-tap a hole in my transmission when I was swapping out shift springs. I the size tap I needed was like $200, that was insane, and thought I was screwed. Then got to thinking how a tap worked. Got out the Dremel and cut two slits on each side, and I was able to get it fixed. Very good info to pass along. Not many have the mechanical expertise to come up with this solution.
A beautiful youtube moment. This is what it's all about
This is great ...we at our shop have some old timers that do tricks of the trade like this too..
Thanks Steve
I have also used castleated (castle) nuts turned over to chase threads on a lightly d ac imaged bolt when a tap is not available.
Or you can make one from a nut much in the same way. I typically use a die grinder though.
An excellent trick to keep in your back pocket.
These are the videos that are most precious.
Thank you very much.
Thank you Eric
Your dad taught you now you taught me. Thank you.
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I have made these in the past to chase threads. Once installed and feels good, I remove it and replace it with a spec bolt once I know the threads are good. Seems like this application was a bracket used to hold a dipstick or something non critical but important so torque is not a big deal. Could leave the bolt in as is.
grabir01 . Naturally I do the same thing.
Lol just saw ur post after i did mine
i would say it will be very useful on the struts...I had this problem while helping a friend the other day putting a strut bolt in..we ended up putting the bolt in from the bottom upside down at an angle..A vise wasnt handy..
@@raymondbucher49 you know strut bolts are directional and I wouldn't recommend cutting any bolt that holds sny suspension parts. That's alot of weight on them struts to take away from the structural integrity of the bolt.
i did, thank you. could of used this tip many, many years ago.
Wow thanks for sharing. You are very fortunate to have had a man such as your father in your life.
I turned this around and showed it to my grandfather. It was on a 1910 model t. I didn't learn it from a UA-cam video just a hard day of figuring out methods.
Use am angle grinder and get slice it in half. Get ready to get the bolt off and have an extra pair of pliers. When that cut is still hot you can squeeze the gap from the angle grinder to clear the bolt.
Use a thread file for fixing the starting threads. After a few strokes of the thread file you should be able to to thread it into a thread chaser or die to clean it up even more if needed. The hole alignment is a different issue that should be fixed separately, not cutting the bolt.
Duct tape it
The update info below is the pinned comment on this video, I know most people do not realize I made that video and it better explains/shows this method in use.
I also included below details of why the job was done this way free of charge with the customer fully informed. I hope you check it out 👇👇
UPDATE* I decided to make a follow up video on this ua-cam.com/video/yfNQullGEuQ/v-deo.html Should answer some of the questions that were raised, I include 3 demos of this in action with close up shots.
As there was some safety concerns & confusing comments raised, I felt I should clear a few things up.
1) This is a tip for certain circumstances only, I never have and never would use it on a component which would cause any safety concern to any customer.
2) The demo was done on a support bracket only, items like this or similar will not cause any safety concern.
3) I did this free of charge and on a time restraint, I noticed it when I was replacing another item, the customer needed the vehicle back that evening and I decided rather than leave it like it was, I would do this and secure it up fully.
4) The bolt was not the issue, the part that the bolt threads into is a secured piece, someone had previously damaged it, leaving the bracket loose and the bolt just tightened a turn or so.
5) The bolt can be removed and will not break, it will go in and out as usual and has helped clean up the damaged threads.
6) Used in the right application I personally believe this is a great tip and can save you a lot of time & trouble.
Lastly to all the people who have watched the video, Thanks very much and I am delighted with the feedback I have received on it.
Thank you to you and your father my friend. You're gonna be the coolest dad!
Thanks a million, I am trying to be :)