How-To: BMW M54 TO M50/M52 MANIFOLD ADAPTER Port match!

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  • Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
  • A job came in for a port match an M54 to M50/M52 intake manifold, Dave searched UA-cam and the internet looking for some pointers on how to get this done and didn't find much...So we have a video now on how to get it done using HeadGames burrs!
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  • @GTRliffe
    @GTRliffe Місяць тому +7

    this is a good thing because 1 horsepower isnt much gain but over 14 hours of racing its huge

    • @KgiMedia601
      @KgiMedia601 Місяць тому +1

      Restrictions are friction and friction is heat so definitely a must have on an endurance build

  • @MinhDangcraft
    @MinhDangcraft 23 дні тому +1

    Woah, 3D printed template, nice!

  • @teddyroweshow5643
    @teddyroweshow5643 Місяць тому +2

    Great UA-cam channel. M54 heads have potential. 🍻

  • @bimmertbear4474
    @bimmertbear4474 Місяць тому +10

    I’d love to see your flow numbers on this head.

    • @Gtbtdx
      @Gtbtdx Місяць тому

      Yes please

    • @bimmertbear4474
      @bimmertbear4474 3 дні тому

      @@Gtbtdx Teddy Rowe show flowed the M54 head. I’m curious to see the comparison.

  • @highpsiguy4085
    @highpsiguy4085 Місяць тому +2

    Another very informative video as usual. Great job documenting the steps involved and the process in general. Have a great day Dave

  • @Marko-JZX100
    @Marko-JZX100 Місяць тому +5

    Did this same exact thing a week ago on M54B25 head with M50B25 intake manifold with a bit different approach. I cut 10mm aluminium flange on waterjet using M54 port diameter and spacing. Blended that flange to M50 manifold the same way, so intake ports are untouched in the head and only the adapter flange is port matched. Made zero max hp gains, only 3000-6000rpm torque increased 5-6Nm across the rpm range. Interestingly peak power was at 5900rpm after the adapter flange, and 6100rpm before. Had to make slight adjustments to intake cam timing to get same max hp.
    Dynoed and tuned the car before the adapter flange and after port matching the flange to the manifold. 190whp with M54B30 intake cam, headers (unequal lenght), 3" single exhaust, B30 injectors and E85. My old M54B25 with same mods otherwise but stock intake manifold made 199whp and more torque everywhere. The runners are too long and big volume in the M50 manifold compared to M54 manifold. Might make some gains on 3 liter B30, but waste of time on 2.5 and 2.8 engines.

    • @headgames
      @headgames  Місяць тому +4

      @@Marko-JZX100 man! Thanks for validation on my theory!

    • @Gtbtdx
      @Gtbtdx Місяць тому

      199 whp ???? On M54b25?

    • @exvils
      @exvils 23 дні тому +1

      thats like 235hp crank, not much.. stock m54b28 with b30 cams and nice exhaust will make 250hp, m54b30 will do the same (stroke only changes rpm where peak tq/hp is, not how much it makes)
      one of my problems with m50 intake on m54 is that you have those crankcase vent holes bellow port, you have to plug them and if they start leaking you have problem, having a turbocharged engine makes only things worse. Also n53 is much better intake than m50, more compact, more space for everything, makes power but flanges are as expensive as aluminium side mounted TB intakes (fmic pro).. m50 intakes also are going up in price (currently somewhere around 350-400€ here), have issues with boost (iav pushing out) and you will need to match m54 size of TB to M50 intake
      tldr with like 100 of bmw engines i have done, it's pointless (and waste of money) to play with intakes. What they need in 1st place is big cams (270/250 at least) which shift peak hp to something like 6800-7200rpm depending on stroke.

  • @invader_viv
    @invader_viv Місяць тому +2

    Im buying my 4th M5xx car soon, did SCCA stuff with my 330ci, but never thought of porting and polishing until like 3 days ago, and here you are one day ago on this exact application lol i just dont know how id feel about it unless it was for a turbo application with M50 runners from VAC motorsports, might have to pick up a spare Head and a lower compression gasket just to test things

  • @bhagvedsingh2147
    @bhagvedsingh2147 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks Dave! Another great video!

    • @headgames
      @headgames  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for watching!

  • @CJ5EVOLUTION
    @CJ5EVOLUTION Місяць тому +1

    Great information, because I had a lot of question marks in my head with the cylinder head you send me and installing a intake that I have not purchase yet.

    • @headgames
      @headgames  Місяць тому

      We sent you this head?

    • @CJ5EVOLUTION
      @CJ5EVOLUTION Місяць тому

      @@headgames no you send me a 4G63 2G, and like you had mention castings are very inconsistent, I guess I may need to look how the intake manifold match the Cyl head.

  • @Gtbtdx
    @Gtbtdx Місяць тому +1

    Ich hoffe wir werden erfahren welchen spec der M54b30 mit M50 brücke fahren wird. Und welche leistung das bringen wird . Danke sehr 👍

  • @adamyearsley1204
    @adamyearsley1204 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @GiovanniJulius
    @GiovanniJulius Місяць тому +3

    Hi Dave can we see Nissan SR20 cylinder head videos it will be much appreciated

    • @headgames
      @headgames  Місяць тому +1

      We haven’t worked on them in many years. You might be able to find some of the magazine articles online when we did them for modified mag and import tuner.

  • @goyocarreras
    @goyocarreras Місяць тому +2

    Hi Dave, just next week they will bring me a cylinder head like that to do the same thing.
    My question is what honest opinion do you have about doing that and if the intake port is already excessively large.
    People go crazy with the m50 intake manifold, but I think that with the m54 it has enough air.
    Greetings and thanks for your time.
    Goyo

    • @bimmertbear4474
      @bimmertbear4474 Місяць тому +2

      If you can get the m54 head to flow like an m50 then the intake swap is worth it. I did this to my e83 x3 and several others.

    • @headgames
      @headgames  Місяць тому +2

      @@goyocarreras I agree it probably is already big and okay. Problem is, I don’t anything about this head or the combo so I can’t speak intelligently if it’s a gain or worth it. When I know these things, I won’t let people hurt themselves by just doing what they want. I try to stick to what they need.

    • @goyocarreras
      @goyocarreras Місяць тому

      @@headgames thanks Dave

  • @AmrinderSingh-zx9hr
    @AmrinderSingh-zx9hr Місяць тому +1

    Very good..!!!

  • @CJ5EVOLUTION
    @CJ5EVOLUTION Місяць тому +2

    I know what you mention about flow numbers don't tell the sorry, and speed is king, did you check a before and after to see what was affected or improved since this is a new cylinder head for you.

    • @headgames
      @headgames  Місяць тому +1

      No, I just did it. Because it’s a head we don’t see at all. If it’s a popular one, then it would get on the bench.

  • @superconscious.
    @superconscious. Місяць тому +1

    🔥

  • @Christopher-re2hl
    @Christopher-re2hl Місяць тому +1

    This might be a dumb question. Stock to mild cam verses wild race cam with lots of duration ...etc. Do ported heads make more power difference as you go from stock smooth cam to radical cam? I'm building a Pontiac 400 and I'm wondering if it would be worth the effort to port the heads if I'm using a BP6014SP cam and I wonder how much it would gain with that cam I'm thinking about 25 hp? increase with #13 heads? I still can't decide what valves to get for it

    • @headgames
      @headgames  3 дні тому

      @@Christopher-re2hl buying an eldebrock head would be a better choice than porting the stock Pontiac heads.

  • @georgef1176
    @georgef1176 3 дні тому +1

    This is a turbo thing for the m54 because the factory m54 intake is poo poo pretty much like all BMWs are poo poo. Jk. I have a e46 vert but it’s Ls3/t56 swapped but no really bmws are shiz boxes when compared to Japanese or American cars. Ultimate driving machine sure! they drive good when they run and you get past all the stupid quirks like bump steer, or a rear end that’s glass, and the cracks in the body’s suspension pickup points. etc etc. they look great tho!

    • @headgames
      @headgames  3 дні тому

      @@georgef1176 haha I feel the love/hate in your comment

  • @Supra_Kewl
    @Supra_Kewl Місяць тому +1

    Can you do 1uz head flow bench test? I keep hearing the heads do not flow very well.

    • @headgames
      @headgames  Місяць тому

      @@Supra_Kewl we don’t work on them

  • @myrx2
    @myrx2 Місяць тому +1

    What process do you use when doing something like this? 100% complete one port then use it as a reference for the rest or rough out all of them at once then sand then all?

    • @headgames
      @headgames  Місяць тому

      If it’s a whole port, I would do one and then match it

  • @jacobjarvis2545
    @jacobjarvis2545 Місяць тому +1

    What gaskets did use use for the port matching

    • @headgames
      @headgames  3 дні тому

      @@jacobjarvis2545 there is a few companies that make the template. It’s not a gasket

    • @jacobjarvis2545
      @jacobjarvis2545 3 дні тому

      @@headgames I ended up getting the template from seems light garage

  • @arturozarate1752
    @arturozarate1752 Місяць тому +1

    What was the white template for?

    • @kostadiamantis5637
      @kostadiamantis5637 Місяць тому +2

      I believe I have bought the same kit from "seems legit garage" and quickly had a look when inspecting the same question on my cylinder head and from memory it was for the front and possibly the rear inlet port as the studs are in a different position as per the rest of the inlet runner

    • @headgames
      @headgames  Місяць тому +1

      @@kostadiamantis5637 that is correct

  • @ICTPerformance268
    @ICTPerformance268 Місяць тому +1

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    🙇🏾‍♂️

  • @rcr286
    @rcr286 Місяць тому +1

    What the heck is up with the casting of that head? Did they just press a bunch of aluminum beads together, or actually cast it? It looks like painted styrofoam. Building that way seems like you are asking for cracks, etc. with no consideration for longevity. Is this the current trend in OE manufacturing? Can you do a video on the evolution of head manufacturing?

    • @headgames
      @headgames  Місяць тому +2

      @@rcr286 this head is 34 years old

    • @dan1906
      @dan1906 Місяць тому +2

      What are you on about? All cast parts have a texture. There is nothing out of the ordinary with that head.
      To be fair, the lighting, along with some dirt in the low spots, does make it appear exaggerated in the video.

    • @rcr286
      @rcr286 Місяць тому +1

      @@dan1906, I realize that. However, look at how the head was made and it looks like a bunch of beads were pressed together like styrofoam. It doesn't look like aluminum was poured into a sand mould. I've simply not seen a head made like that before.

    • @rcr286
      @rcr286 Місяць тому

      @@headgames weird. Was this manufacture technique normal 34 years ago? Has it continued?

    • @5angles114
      @5angles114 Місяць тому +2

      @@rcr286 I see the styrofoam looking alloy heads pretty often both import and domestic. It's a thing.