What Happens to Men? (John Lennon)
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- Опубліковано 21 бер 2024
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In this fifth episode, I'd like us to ask "What Happens to Men".
What happens to men like my father who wasn’t equipped to be a father or a husband, or his father. What chain of events lead to long-lasting generation trauma and a struggle to connect for men?
This episode will focus on the one and only John Lennon, English singer, songwriter, musician and peace activist who achieved worldwide fame as founder, co-songwriter, co-lead vocalist and rhythm guitarist of the Beatles.
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As a distressed teen, I found comfort in “Imagine”, so it was likewise a shock to discover the other side of him. Something I’ve learned since is that poetry can be a way for narcissistic people to tap into their own emotions. I first realised this with my difficult Dad, who repeatedly stole my childhood poetry books. Years later, he proudly sent me a photocopy of Larkin’s “This be the Verse” - probably the closest I got to an apology from my Dad for his bad behaviour. Larkin had great insight into inter-generational trauma and expressed it brilliantly but also had very troubled relationships with the women in his life. Another conundrum that we trauma survivors have to grapple with - people can have beautiful and vindictive emotions at the same time.
this is so interesting! my grandma also liked poetry.
What is amazing is how all that dysfunction somehow translated into art. I struggle to create when dealing with stress, pressure and the drama of relationships that are dysfunctional.
Yes, but who's to say he didn't also? Maybe he wrote his stuff when he was in the best moods?
Insightful. Think of how much more he could have accomplished with out his childhood trauma.
Maybe music was the medium/form of art he (John Lennon) chose to express his inner conflicts.
It has always bothered me that John Lennon abandoned his son, Julian, but I had never made the connection before that he had narcissistic tendencies before as a result of his own childhood trauma. I knew about the drug and alcohol addictions. Drugs and alcohol can make people present as possessed by demons or narcissistic. Thank you for this deep dive. His money would have been better spent on more therapy than on drugs and alcohol. I am glad for his positive contributions to society and am sad for the sad waste of potential at the same time. I would also like to think that John Lennon would have made progress in his healing, had he lived longer.
My recollection is that the therapy available in the 70’s, and prior, was less than ideal as compared to today’s options. The culture of the times didn’t make it easy for someone, even with money like Lennon, to get proper psychological help. Add the drugs, alcohol, and worship of fans that he experienced and the groundwork was laid to perpetuate his narcissistic tendencies.
I don't know or search anythg about these artists, but am listening to it in order to listen to this type of content. I believe, John Lennon, did could do a lot better with his child Julian, that his parents with him because family separation for his parents time was a lot less easy from society & legal was. He mistreated his 1st wife a lot & same to kid. Help like always,by the present new partner. I say always in the case we're the biological parent is bad to their own children, whomever is with them is going to have to do the same, at least a little if that is how the bio parent wants to treat his children.
Love this Patrick. Great work. I'd love to hear you collaborating with a client that's not a well-known celebrity or public figure because I'd like to hear about how the common man or woman deals with their family dynamic, Especially those that had to escape or emancipate themselves from their bio family of origin.. For me it would be more relatable. And "a working class hero is something to be".
Chester Bennington would be a good person to make a video on.
Oh fuck. Heartbreaking, though.
I can relate to Cynthia. She had a lot invested in Lennon, but they were ultimately incompatible. It’s hard not to feel sorry for her and not dislike Yoko.
Wow this is absolutely FASCINATING! Thank you for the incredible amount of research it must have taken to accomplish this insight! Great stuff 👍
Really interesting, fascinating and eye opening! Thank You!!! I knew the Julienne story; how John abandoned him but I didn’t know most of the other abusive behaviors. What an asshole! The wife beating…naw dog, completely unacceptable. I can totally understand and forgive all the other things, if he got healthy and took responsibility, but not beating up his wife. He sounds like a malignant narcissist to me.
This.
I really like that you give your own stories, along with history. It helps. Thank you🦋
I really appreciate all the research and work and time and energy you put into creating these. They are so fascinating,and very well done. Tho I may struggle to agree with parts of it, I think a lot of that comes from my own childhood stuff that's on its way to being healed. Mostly that I'm in a heavy space of anger and pushing back on the blame shifting and projecting and gaslighting. This is such a sad story for all the many many people he grew up around and then chose to continue to surround himself with. That part I can relate to as well. I'm grateful for therapists like yourself and that we have such access to watch and learn on here. I shudder to think what my life would be like now, if I'd not gotten at least a little benefit from therapy and the few folks who have stood for my health and well being.
Poor Julian. At least he and his brother are close. Julian deserved love from his father as a child. All his Dad gave him was a wicked stepmother. How could John sing about a peaceful loving world when he couldn't even love his older son😢
Reminds me of Alice Miller's son's story. After reading, "The Drama...", "The Body Never Lies", I was aghast to hear of her parenting when "she knew better." But this seems to be s big part of the Intergenerational Trauma, bringing one to an intellectual understanding which cannot yet be grounded in a lived life. I can relate. "All false gods..." Ayaya!
Interesting. I'm from UK and remember some of this going on. Blast from the Past!!! Thanks
That is an interesting perspective of the life of John Lennon. Thanks
Patrick -- this was really amazing and so interesting. Love your approach using the stories of well known people that all or most of us know, what a great idea. If I could be so bold, I would like to hear your analysis of a complex person that I'm particularly fond of, that being Maynard James Keenan of the band Tool....just thinking out loud....maybe others would be curious about that also? Fantastic job, thanks for all you do!
So fascinating. You weave the childhood trauma and its effects into the narrative so well or rather you are simply making astute observations. Either way it is very interesting.
Listening 4 days late because I was waiting for this episode to hit my podcast platform, and it didn't l.
Thanks Patrick ❤
An outstanding presentation as usual, thank you PT.
This couldn't have come at a better time 🖤 thank you for this insight. It's really tough to reconcile that, when an artist and their art is so far apart.
Super interesting content!
I really loved this! Thank you Patrick. Can you do more of these episodes on some famous men and their traumas?
Very interesting! I’d been listening to John Lennon videos this week, so naturally this popped up. Thanks!
Patrick, the background you provided, alongside your therapeutic observations were helpful. Thank you.
Very well done thankyou
Hi Patrick please could you do one on Kurt Cobain's childhood
I’m so excited to immerse in another one of your videos! Thanks Patrick!!
So is this a reupload of the previous video of the same name but in podcast/audio only form?
Michael Jackson 🎶
Are you out of Boston? Just hearing the beginning of this story. Ugh my heart from this story and I love your videos so helpful. ❤️
I was hesitant to listen to this podcast because of how so many people tend to gloss over the history of trauma and abuse. I'm not personally able to separate the art from the artist in Lennon's case for many reasons but the largest one is most likely because I work directly with survivors of domestic violence. However, as you say, he is an important study in intergenerational trauma and the complications that make us human.
Maybe music was the medium/form of art he (John Lennon) chose to express his inner conflicts.
What happened Brian Epsteins son thou 👀
When you say John’s parents were not completely void of sense or morality
Yes , true however Yoko was void of sense and morality and I believe she was evil an evil doer and an agent for evil doers, I believe she was instrumental in setting him up to be assassinated by her evil doer controllers