WE DESTROYED a 1952 MICKEY MANTLE..... PSA SLAB! (EP #25)
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- Опубліковано 2 тра 2023
- In today's episode, we share a unique situation with you... a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle needs to be cracked from it's PSA slab, are we the guys to do it? Come check it out!
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Today we crack a 1952 Mickey Mantle PSA Slab and resubmit to SGC... what will it grade? How do you resub a graded card? How do you crack a BGS / PSA / SGC Slab or graded card? - Розваги
It’s much easier/safer to cut a corner off the holder and then use a flat head screwdriver to pry the case apart. Cracking it down the center seems risky
Appreciate it John!
Definitely agree I would never crack in the middle. I go top right then very carefully use a flathead around the slab.
100 % Agree
Yep I tape off both corners with painters tape diagonally as a guide, then use a chop saw to cut the corners and then pry open with a flat head. Never had a single issue doing it this way.
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Masterclass on how not to crack slabs boys take notes 😂
Yes, this was soooo painful to watch.🤔😯
Then shipping a 52 topps mantle in a bubble envelope. That is cringe
God bless!!
Holy wow. I would never crack a slab like that
God bless!!
He was dumb
Even with the practice destruction , you did it the same way 🤷♂️🤦🏻♂️
5:10 WOW! You made this a much bigger job than it is. Simple to bust 2 top corners to get a small flat head or BUTTER KNIFE in the crack and pry open around the edges.
This is nuts 5:59 NO WAY
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This is the correct way to crack a slab. Said no one ever! You literally saw the card bend in the center slightly haha
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Use painters tape on one corner, snip the corner off and then wedge your chisel or screwdriver in there while slowly pulling up and apart the slab. Works everytime for me and I never have to worry about any moving cracks pressing down over the card. SGC peels right off, PSA is a bit tougher and BGS is solid and takes some elbow grease.
Exactly, I made my comment and see nothing but the same as yours. With the high end charge, I would think PSA could offer a description on a 2k service level charge. I get they can't do this on every card, with 1.2 million graded this past month, but a premium walkthrough level should accompany added details. Help out @psacard
The slip of the screwdriver has ruined many cards. There is a better way. I posted it here but it was deleted.
Just curious what the point of using the painters tape is?
@@markn512 keeps the crack from splitting and messing up the card. Same as putting tape in cracked glass . Keeps it from splitting.
The most stressed I’ve been watching a video. 😂😂😂 great stuff Ty!
I don't want to pile on with the, "crack the corners" group, but I do agree with them. I also, was shocked when you put a 20k card into a bubble mailer, instead of in a small box. Not trying to be critical, just was very concerned for your card. I kind of figured the screw down pressed the card but guess it's worth the second opinion. Thanks for the content and keep chasing!
Thanks for watching!
For someone in the cars industry I've never seen someone ruin a card easily. Everyone I know cracks from a corner. Minimal surface area to be damaged. Ty take preemptive measures on screwing up and still doubles down! Lol. Still love the show
Cracking the top corners is the proper and safer method for cracking slabs lol what a huge risk you took with cracking down the middle 🫣
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If it used to be in a screw down holder, that is likely the reason for psa to give it an authentic altered grade. The pressure on the 4 corners from being in a screw down for a long time can cause this result. Good luck! Any ‘52 Mantle is an awesome card.
Good stuff, thanks Jeremy!
My thoughts exactly. Watch Kurts cards care video on how to check and even correct the situation.
Not
Man, I respect you. I like you and will continue to like you. But, I strongly disagree with your crack method. It may work, as you demonstrated, but it allows too much chance for damage. I dont think one should ever do anything at the bottom, only the header and just enough down a side with a short screw driver until the top comes open enough to pull the card safely. Crack a top corner off, then gently insert screw driver aimed away frm the card. I can't imagine regularly wanting the crack to go all over the card. OK, my rant is over 😅
Haha! Appreciate the feedback. ;-) Thanks for still liking us.
Who was the genius (sarcasm) that said to cut down the middle? Supposed to Crack the top sides,then pry open with thin flathead screwdriver.
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I've cracked a lot of 1/1s and super fractors of Trout for my PC. I cut horizontal at the label going across. Then take a flat head an just pry up a little. Card never moves and sits in place until I grab it. Watching you crack like this gives me stress... lol. Thanks for the videos.
Thanks Justin
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD No problem. You guys rock! Keep it up.
Suggestion/question - why don’t you use painter’s tape when packaging up the card so that the grader can more easily unwrap the card and not potentially damage it trying to get it out of shipping tape?
Thanks Brian...
I always cut the top corner and then use a flat tip screwdriver and go gently down the sides and it works flawlessly
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You're the first person I've ever seen crack open a slab like that. I think it'd be a lot more safer to crack off one of the top corners, and wedge apart the slab using a flat screwdriver
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Cut both top corners off. Then cut the top horizontally. Then slowly peel open the slab from the top to the bottom. Safest way in my opinion.
Absolutely on a BGS slab…PSA is slightly different.
I’ve cracked many slabs and the way you cracked these slabs has to be the most dangerous method of cracking. Regardless of the grader the safest imo is to snip off the side and pry the slab apart with a flathead. Just too risky having cracks anywhere near the actual card itself.
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD That PSA center cracking is wild. HAHA!
That clickbait title tho 🤣🤣
Ha.
Next time you’re cracking slabs contact me. I want to be there to buy the damaged cards at 40% discount 😂
Haha! I'll give you a ring! ;-)
Great video as always. I've never seen a case cracked like that but it does look easier but more heart wrenching at the same time.
Thanks SCP!
Everytime you squeeze plyers on any case you are taking a chance. Once the torque is applied then you can't always control the crack lines. I suggest a Dremel Tool with the cutting wheel on the lock spots.
@@TedWilliams1959Fleer Yes! This! How are you the _only_ person I've seen recommend this?? Have people never heard of Dremels?
I’m loving these noon releases! Such a great surprise when I go on my lunch break 🙌🏼
Awesome!!! I think it works better for schedules!
Never seen anyone crack one open that way. As someone may have said earlier, break both top corners and pry through the top to get the top half loose to pull back the top half. I nearly had a heart attack watching you practice knowing that was going to be the process.😳 Glad it worked out well!
Thanks for watching!
That was fun. I felt nervous for you (and Harlan). Thanks for bringing us along
You got it!
Corner corner corner! Why the heck would you want a crack through the middle of the card. Corner, pry, pry, pry, and then eventually the case pops open if you've done it right. Wow
Thanks for watching!
This was awesome to see. It was more heart-pounding watching it than giving the okay to do it. Saying yes over the phone was easy but, despite knowing the outcome before watching, I was still sweating a little. I've also only ever watched people crack the top and pry previously, so I too was surprised by the method. Seems to work well though. Thanks guys.
Thanks Harlan!
the way I've seen it done is cut from the side. then take a flat head and prie it open.
Thanks RJ
It probably got that "Altered" because it had been in a screw-down case. Those smash the card & make it seem like someone was trying to "smooth out" wrinkles or something.
Yeah you could be right.
It looks like the black border line above Mickey's bat was added in using a black felt tip pen. Pretty easy to spot in the video.
May want to title how not to crack a slab... yikes! I'd never feel comfortable with a crack going straight over the face of my card! Chris Sewall gave a great tutorial on how to properly and seems to be the safest way to crack slabs.
Will consider the title swap ;-)
...yeah. Never crack the middle. Always crack the corner of the holder.
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I've never seen anyone break a PSA slab the way you did. It's corners or bust.
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@@CHASINGCARDBOARD Card looked better in SGC holder anyways
Awesome video.. My heart would have been thumping cracking a 52 Mantle!! Was there a follow up video on SGC's grade? If not, would love to know the results?
"I've done countless of these" goes to buy pliers and destroy a bunch of cards. Looks like he's learning on the fly to me
Haha. Do you really think we were going to buy pliers for the first time? Really?
I was wondering, do companies like PSA intentionally lower their grade hoping the customer resubmits for another grading (possibly with them)? At 2k Grading fee they are charging you almost 15% of the cards value. Thats insane to me. The grading companies are bending over the entire community. As a collector for almost 50 years i can 100% tell you buy the card not the grade.
There is def some shadiness that happens…wouldn’t be surprised by anything these days
they could honestly do whatever they want to do with a card.
P lease
S ubmit
A gain
Congratulations on seeing it through! Smart decision to cross it over. Love the content
Thanks Lanny!
That was crazy!! I understand the laughter, wow!
You are braver than I am. I would be shaking. Lol
You are a FAR braver man than me, Ty! Well done! :) Another great episode!
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I have NEVER seen a slab cracked open this way, this is crazy and reckless lmao, I can’t believe he did it this way 😂
Right
That is definitely not the best way to crack a slab. Very risky.
Thanks Ken!
Great video as always. Definitely the first person I've seen crack a slab down the middle.
Appreciate it!
@@CHASINGCARDBOARDyeah I don’t think ops comment was a compliment.
You have got some balls, my friend. Great video!
Nice crackin! Did SGC say how the card was altered? I thought they put that now on the slab?
Just curious, do you let psa know when you cracked it so they can take it off the POP reports?
On larger cards, we do...
screw downs, over time press down on cards and is always a risk of coming back altered.
True that.. Thanks Larry
Not the case here. Looks like the black border line above Mickey's bat was added in using a black felt tip pen.
My anxiety went through the roof on this one! Great episode!
Haha!!
Tile cutter is better option than traditional pliers
Noted!
At the 11:59 mark I thought I was about to swallow my gum in anticipation.
Wait you shipped a Mickey mantle in a bubble mailer with some cardboard around it? You got some balls man
Curious, how did you destroy it? LOL. Nice job.
Did you enjoy the content?
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD oh my yes!!!
Also use painter’s tape outside the cardboard, never put tape on the card sleeve bag around the cardboard, they can damage it getting the tape off.🤦🏼♂️
Thanks for watching!
The right side was altered/ cut.. did u check side view to see rough cut? Thats why it was declared, Altered
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If a card grades below a 1 does it come back as Authentic Altered? or does PSA and SCG both think this card has been altered? It would nice if they notified you about the alterations.
That's definitely the biggest frustration. Tell us why you think it's altered... we paid $2,000 for crying out loud!!
Have you ever just sent something to SGC in a PSA slab to ask for a re-grade?
We haven’t…
Bro, you gotta cut it on the corner…then take the flat head and pry it…you should’ve UA-cam’s it first🤣 I’ve done a few, much less stress brother
UA-cam? What’s that? 😘 Appreciate ya Lou
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD either way…I was entertained…shoot I was stressed just watching
Yeah I couldn’t find the courage to do that. 😅
Same!
Haha!!
I've never seen it done in the middle..if you do a corner its so easy
Even though I knew you didn't damage the card in the end I almost still couldn't watch lol. Great job!
Haha! Thanks Andy
Love your videos. This one especially made me laugh because I had a similar situation where I was cracking a 1960 tops Roberto Clemente and my flat head screwdriver carved a big divot out of the face of the card. Lol. 😢😢
Thanks for watching!
Crack the corner then use the screwdriver to pry it Open I've did it probably around 100 times with all grading companies cases and never had 1 problem with any of the cards
Thanks for watching!
Reggie Wayne sacrifice reaction was the best part.
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When you ship a grading submission to the grading company, do you insure for the raw value or expected graded value of the cars?
Raw value
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD better late than never! Thanks for the reply and keep hunting. We all appreciate the content you guys put out showing how great the community is.
Hi, have you ever cracked a numbered card graded by psa (9) and try to resubmit to shoot for a psa 10? Is this possible (because it’s numbered)? Thoughts please 🙏🏼
No, that is a hard gamble.
Ha! Ha! When you say, "Let's grab some tools", that was my cue to grab a Xanax. You are braver than me.
Thanks for watching!
I like the way you cracked it out. FYI, I’ve always cut my cards out using a small $50-$100 bandsaw. Can get one at harbor freight or Home Depot.
I’ve had 100 percent success over the last 30 years.
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL! Cracking Mantles, Pour Overs and Good Vibes. How could it get any better!
LESSSGO!
LIkely altered due to compression from the screw down. Let it air out, rehydrate a bit and I bet the card would stand back up a bit and maybe grade out PSA. Also looks like a good candidate to go to Gone with the Stain.
Gone with the Stain!
Very wise to do a few practice runs ahead of the Mantle. Although eye protection is important as well methinks 🤓
Fair point.
Great episode. Now I’m off to crack some cases !
Thanks for watching!
I'm glad you sold it. It looked trimmed to me. Personally, I would have a huge moral hurdle to overcome once I got the Authentic back from PSA. I wouldn't be able to rationalize enough to send the card off to another grader. But I understand getting a second opinion.
It looks like the black border line above Mickey's bat was added in using a black felt tip pen. Pretty easy to spot in the video.
@@gametimegallery7661 🤔...
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Oof.. you're breaking the slab wrong.. gotta cut the corner. great video as always though!
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that was entertaining, I'll give you that! I wouldn't have had the guts to try it.
Haha. Thanks for watching
690 comments about how you crack the slabs 😂.. I have to say the comments are well warranted though.. that was crazy haha
Thanks for sharing the outcome right away instead of making us wait
You got it!! We almost did a 2-parter...glad we didn't ;-)
Another great episode yall are killing it!! The Mantle looks better in a Tux anyway! Such a dream card to have in a PC. Even if it's considered "altered," does any of the chasing cardboard team own a mantle themselves?
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I heard screw downs flatten the card and can lead to an authentic/altered grade . Great episode.
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Awesome video…thank you for sharing it with us!
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Heartwrenching LOL Guessing Altered due to it being in a screw down. Happy you guys didn't lose on subbing through SGC. Feel like most would prefer vintage authentic in SGC vice PSA. Thanks Guys! Take care! Eddie
Yeah looking at it I was thinking it should get an authentic. Still amazed to see that middle slab cut 😓
"How dare you sir, how dare you??!!" - Reggie Wayne
Loved this. Thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Wow were did you learn to do it that way😮this is the most intense video to watch.
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Shame that corrupt PSA put you through that. Cards formerly in screw-downs are not altered. That is pure BS, and anyone who uses PSA is nuts, unless the love oppressive wait-times, inaccurate grades, ugly slabs and non-existent customer service.
You can also use a Dremel cutter but you have to have someone to help you hold it tight for you. You need to have the person helping you slide it off a sturdy surface about 1" and let the person cutting it but you have got to hold it tight because that's the trick.
TY...I find it much easier and safer to hand saw or dremel the corners, then slowly crack it open using a small flat. Less cracks for sure.
Thanks J
If you've cracked hundred and hundreds of slabs why did you not have the tools on hand to do it lol? Also I would never crack a slab like that. Like many of said I cut both top corners and slowly pry it open.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for taking us along for the nerve-wracking journey, Ty! It worked out in the end and it looks pretty slick in the tux.
I’m wondering if the reason it received the Authentic grade from both companies is because of the screw down pressing it down for all those years. I think Harlan already had it in a card saver when you guys visited him, so not sure if it was in a screw down with no recess for the card. The card could be thinner as a result, thus the authentic grade. Just a thought.
Thanks for watching!
Dunno why but I enjoy watching people crack slabs. It's pretty exciting. I haven't cracked sports cards but I've cracked comic books out of slabs...and it's nerve racking even for comics that are nowhere near as valuable as that mantle card! Two questions: 1) could you have sent it to sgc in the psa slab and have them crack then grade/encapsulate? or are you risking they'll just throw an authentic label on it if they see psa did already? and 2) any particular reason you weigh your beverage (presume it's coffee)?
Love the show!
Thanks Pauly!
I have found that end cutting pliers are the cats meow for doing this. Cuts very cleanly along the top edge. I have done this many times and i find it the safest way by far.
Thanks for watching!
Enjoyed the video. Cracking that slab took some cajones.
Great video, 2nd time watching it. I still don’t understand why grading companies have fee tiers based on the value of the card. From their perspective, what difference does it make?👍❤️
Great video ❤
Is a Dremel tool not an option?
Wow, never seen anyone do it that way. Interesting concept, part of me understands, part of me is terrified.
SGC slabs are the easiest slabs to open, there's a slit that runs along the entire edge of the slab that has really weak plastic holding the whole thing together. I've literally used ONLY a dull dinner knife before and perfectly separated the front and back. My preferred method is a box cutter though. Three swipes per side and the slab is in two perfectly separated pieces. Flathead if anything is still stuck.
Thanks for watching!
SGC is easiest by far. Screwdriver in side and twist. Takes 15 seconds.
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I’ve cracked some 9’s and the porta band to get the corners is super clean! Then standard screw driver to pry.
Would a Dremel with a cutting wheel be a better tool to use than pliers or the big dikes?
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Can you explain the difference in grading pricing. When does the grading price get up to $2k per card. I had no idea it was that pricy. What is the cut off. Is that based on raw value. I love these behind the scenes so to speak eepisodes
Thanks for watching!
If that's the method that you're going to use, attempting to split it straight up the middle then I would recommend getting a plexiglass cutter and scoring the face of it first.