The Secret Messages of Spider-Punk Hobie Brown Finally Decoded!
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2023
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Spider-Man Across the Spider-verse introduced Spider-Punk Hobie Brown (Daniel Kaluuya) from Earth-138, who speaks in a subtle coded Cockney slang that is filled with interesting new hidden meanings that set up Beyond the Spiderverse! Erik Voss explains what you missed!
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As someone from England I can say I loved that he was trying to decode our slang like it was a foreign language.
Yeah, just wait till he learns that f off can means hundreds of things
Innit
Oyyyy innit
Oy innit bruv
Your slang IS a foreign language to someone who is not from England 🙄
Surprised you didn’t mention the part where Miles questions why everything has to happen like that. Jessica says “Hobie you’re not helping”, to which he replies “Good.” I agree that I think he will be a hero, but he needed Miles to question everything and stand up to Miguel to make others stand up to him too.
That was actually my favorite subtle moment in the movie. I like seeing someone else point it out
When they finish the Canon explanation & all the other spider people are entering the room for the intervention, Hobie is the ONLY one not facing Miles. He is either firmly turned around with his feet facing outward or facing the side & has to twist his body to face the center of the room
Hobie quickly became my favorite character due to these little characteristics shown.
@@thesplawnNice choice ! 😄
Its kind of like when youre a parent and you let your kid learn by experiences rather than just telling them what to expect and do
One of my favorite lines is when Miguel is fed up with Hobie, he says "I aint even here" which I think is him admitting he is "not in" the spider society.
Reaching😂
"Spider-Society" is a group forcibly and dramatically established w/o his permission - large super band of sorts, therefore he doesn’t believe in consistency mate
Hhuuuuuuugggeeeee stretch
I completely agree with this assessment! Thanks for the input.
No
Hobie is the king of “never let them know you’re next move”
Facts
he really is though to the point of questioning which side hes on.
“I don’t believe in consistency.” - Hobie
frfr
YES!!!!!!!
the best hobie contradiction is that he introduces himself by saying his real name, and then 2 seconds later he says he’s not going to give away his secret identity 😂😂
Well, he doesn't believe in consistency
@@Shadow-Shellmy first thought as well reading the comment. 😂
@@Shadow-Shelln comedy 💀
@@c_ultr4965 just kidding
Hilarious! Nice catch!
Daniel crushed it and hope he gets a lot of time to shine in Beyond The Spider-Verse.
Let's just face the facts. Daniel makes every movie he's in better.
Daniel who
@@MONKEYSCHANNEL327 Kaluuya from Get Out.
@@MONKEYSCHANNEL327 daniel kaluuya
@@MONKEYSCHANNEL327 Daniel Kaluuya, the voice actor for Hobie
“Your not helping”
“Good.”
WAS SO DAMN GOOD
Yeah!
Lessons on how to be a smart ass without being a smart ass. Purely British, might I say. Brilliant.
Also when he says "Its a metaphor for capitalism", its nod to the fact that comics never end/have some kind of crisis every other week because companies need money and the more stories they sell, the more money they make
yeah, on the metanarrative level, the whole idea of challenging the validity of the Canon is a stand-in for trying to break free of popular culture's cycle of repackaging and selling the same thing over and over again at the expense of nurturing creativity and exploring new ideas and stories. Like, sure, someone observing the world through the lens of the anarcho-punk ethos would see an all-devouring black hole as a representation of the very power structure they wage war against, but the writers clearly had something to say about corporate greed and those who push back against it, too.
Mate what’s funny is that his character specifically needed the most time, effort and money in order for animating completion.
@@cyberiagenesisalthough hobie could have existed without capitalism. Capitalism doesn't equal creativity
this line actually had me dying lol
That was the line that originally caught my attention
As a Brit, I noticed everything Hobie was saying and kinda loved how he foreshadowed it all.
I like the idea of a Band. With Hobie on Guitar, and Gwen on Drums, that leaves Miles with Vocals maybe? Given his singing in the first movie, it fits really well.
I know what you trying to say but Miles cannot sing!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
miles could be the album cover art designer or something like that
needles to say I e oh eh 🗣️🗣️‼️
Ofc Miles would learn how to sing after he was in Peter Parker's shadow for that long, he really DID have a good voice so Miles had to best him on that too.
@@thobanikhanyile1994haha. Yep 🤣😂😆
Saw this in a comment on another video
When Hobie is talking to Gwen about Miles’ place in the Spider society he calls her “Gwendy”.
Later when he helps Miles escape he calls him “Peter Pan.”
Hobie is a supporter of Miles and Gwen
I absolutely love Hobie, he’s my favorite Spider in the movie and, love the relationship with him and Miles (especially when Miles was really not sure about him when Gwen was talking about him in the beginning)
Same here
I like how he treats Miles like a little brother. even tho Miles was jealous of him at first.
@@anthonyaguilar8092Thanks to the scriptwriters !
Hobie got some of Gwen.
I liked the subtle things he tells miles even at the end when he does the hands thing infront of him everyone else would think hes saying calm down but hes quietly reminding miles use your palms not just your fingers reinforcing what he said to him earlier after the barrier from the spot fight with gwen and pavitar
As a Brit, I am a absolutely loving the confusion around Cockney Slang. It was my favourite part of the film.
Hobie Brown is such a brilliantly crafted character. From the art, to his dialogue, and the whole execution. Thank you for this video New Rockstars, I feel like this gives Hobie the appreciation he deserves.
Also what someone else pointed out; when Hobie says "I hate the AM", he's not talking just about the morning hours but also about the AM radio broadcasting :)
Cool
Hobie was such a good part of the movie, Daniel Kaluya is an amazing actor
Agreed 💯👏🏽😀
My favorite British slang is we're in a bit of a Barney which is Barney Rubble, which means we're in a bit of trouble
No it is called Barney Rebel.
As a non English speaker this is like pro level English understanding
@@barnyblackwood7899you’re wrong
Oceans 11 taught me that haha 👌👌
Don Cheadle says it to brad Pitt snd the crew and they’re like huh?? And he says “…we’re in Barney… Barney rubble… TROUBLE!!”
He says “I’m just protecting my drummer” which is Gwen. Very cool because Miles answered thinking it was about himself which is crazy because he was anxious to join something but also dope because it shows he looking out for Miles and Gwen
I think most of us knew Hobie was the real MVP of the movie from the jump, I'm looking forward to seeing how he develops... He's the unsung hero and I think he prefers it that way
He’s not a hero. Because calling himself a hero makes him a self mythologising narcissistic autocrat
@@tenidas7064 real talk, but that's what an unsung hero is, someone that does great things but isn't acknowledged as such
Hobie's a real one.
@@bravewater5737 real talk
Agreed 💯👏🏽
Hobie’s lack of consistency is what makes him so likable! 😂
To be fair, he doesn't believe in consistency
Yeah, sort of
This is why writers are so important. And just that human touch. It’s little stuff like this that made this film special
I knew who and what Hobie was about the moment I saw him. I knew he didn't agree with Miguel and I knew he cared about Gwen and Miles and sees himself like an older brother to them.
He was 100% my favourite character. I hope we see more of him
This made me realise how layered our culture is, I never knew you guys didn’t have a clue what was going on with hobie😂
I mean I watch a lot of British tv so I figured most of it out lol. I’m about as surprised as you are
When I saw the film in theaters, I really really struggled to understand Hobie, and English is my first language! He just spoke so fast for me that I couldn't keep up (I've been told that people from the American South like myself speak slowly so that might be why)
@@Stardust_456 I mean if you're from South America then no, you speak American English, you wont understand slang from a country you aren't from.
Di'nt av a Scooby-Doo, mate.
It’s layered but authentic- just like Hobie…. I LOVE IT!!!
this may get mentioned by the end of the video or by someone else in the comments but Miles was singing/rapping in the first movie. There could be an argument for him being vocals in the band Gwen is putting together.
Watched the movie 4 times now and every time I catch something new from Hobie - one of the greatest comic book movie characters ever.
The more I learned about Hobie, the more I love him.
Yeah, same
I love how Hobie is like an older brother to Miles
His "Good" is one of the best lines in the movie
Yeah!
I kind of need a movie just about Hobie. At first I thought they were gonna play him as some rival to Miles but I loved him instantly! Just how cool he was and his own person and took Miles like a little brother. I loved everything about the movie but he was seriously the highlight every time he said or did anything
"taking a crap on the establishment I salute you" lol love Hobie we need a spider punk movie
I’m also deep down the idea that in the last piece of the soundtrack by Daniel Pemberton we obviously hear Gwen goin ham but the one instrument that hits us with the Spiderverse spider-people motif is a guitar, which in my head canon is signifying how Hobie was the catalyst for the gang to be more on the side of altruism instead of thinking arbitrary rules are the solution, punk as hell
I like this touch!
I am from England and I must say this was so funny to watch! 😂 It never even crossed my mind that anyone not living in England would struggle to understand what Hobie says!
I don’t think most of had a problem understanding. Just the small majority 😉
As someone from England I also understood Hobie (minus his first sentence)
Can’t wait to see Hobie again in the next movie!
As a Brit, seeing you say wank has made my day 😂 I love seeing Americans confused by our strange ways and sayings.
Actually, when I think about it, Hobie was watching Miles's is back the whole time because, according to the movie he had, Miles is back throughout the movie, supporting him and caring about him. Because Hobie was like a big brother to Miles.
What
@@ladiesmannumerouno Hobie was watching miles's back because he care about him I think Hobie is a great friend to Miles I think miles is a great example to Hobie as Hobie is a great example to Miles that is how friends look out for each other.
come again..?
@@MrHaydnSir what do you mean, come again? you come again.
@@ladiesmannumerounohe is also a spider who was supposed to be the prowler
I think Hobbie sees his past self in Miles maybe? That's why he's helping him
Hobby: I don't believe in teams
Miles: Aren't you in a band?
Hobby: .... I don't believe in consistency.
I really think Hobie is going to want Miles to kill spot (since hobie is actually a killer, at least in his comic) and Miles will choose to not do it (probably at odds with Miles-42)
Hobie as the Prowler in the comics, or Hobie as Spider-Punk in the comics?
@@magnusavidon982 Hobie as spider punk beheaded Osborn in the comics with his guitar
OKAY WAIT. since we're talking about hobie's slang, i need input on his use of "Peter Pan" and "Gwendy" to address gwen and miles. theres a lot of people on the internet talking about hobie and gwen having a possible love interest, but that doesnt make any sense since hobie has basically rooted for miles since before he even met him, and even so, he treats miles like a younger brother. (hence, "younger from 1610") im also just curious if anyone else noticed the way he seems to be on board with gwen and miles being together because its almost like he uses Peter Pan and WENDY's love interest (like the fairy tale) as a reference to 'love from another world' (i.e. neverland?). some of my friends said "peter pan" could just be like hobie's way of saying miles is a "lost boy" which makes sense, but hobie always has a deeper meaning, right ?
Nah Hobie is the older brother figure, he calls them that because he ships them
I love how Hobie’s watch opens a portal as unique as him. 😂😂
I have never in my life heard anybody over here call a plane, a tarzan and Jane 😂😂😂😂😂
Looks like Hobie was the most Smartest Spiderman in the Spider-verse
The thing is that Cockney rhyming slang is anachronistic so is more of a cultural flex. The examples of "apple and pears" or "Arthur J" have gone the way of the dinosaurs as they're not useful. "Scooby" is still in usage as it allows voice inflexion to vary its context. Daniel Kaluuya is using "scooby" defensively which is him protesting too much. But mostly my British ear got a disillusioned tone from Hobie rather than defiance (which is the punk spirit). We're yet to see the full Spider-Punk experience.
I thought the Scooby Doo line was him saying he won't pull the mask off the true villians face for Miles (Miguel?) like they did at the end of SD episodes. He said that's what they'd want him to do as in snitch so they could determine his true loyalty which would put him in the middle more than he should properly be. I thought he was saying that Miles has to figure it out himself to take responsibility over his own situation and free himself not be freed by someone else.
@@mentlinc we'll have to see how much the character does know in the next film. But "scooby" is a common usage figure of speech so I wouldn't draw too much from it.
If there is a such thing as "too cool" its Hobie
Hobie was a bad ass! He put his palms up to remind Miles how to get out of the force field!
Yeah I noticed that!
"Just don't enlist until you know what war you're fighting in" seems Like a snarky call back to Peter Parker in Earth 616 When we first introduced to him in the Marvel Cinematic Universe in the midst of their civil war
Hobie is my favorite designed character both looks and personality
I never considered that people might not understand Hobie until I watched it with friends and noticed how confused they were at times 😂
I think Hobie and Spider-Ham are going to get along great.
Hello! British person here. The actual area of the country that still uses this slang is limited to about 10 square miles in London now. No-one beyond there, unless they're from there, uses it. You want completely unintelligible but still English? Look up Yorkshire slang from round my way haha.
Hobie is by far my favorite character of the movie
Miles: "How are you even cooler underneath your mask?"
Hobbie: "I was alway cool"
The fact that we need a whole video just to break down British slang really shows how the Brit’s are a piece of work 😅.
"I'm heading to the pub for a beer because I'm done." Is that what you said at the end??
Just want to continue to shout out the shout outs to the writers and researchers! And your collab pals! Love seeing the bts peeps on the breakroom ❤
as a british person he talks normal to me but they did make his accent alot thicker then most people
If a Cockney ever calls you Berk, be insulted. Be very insulted. It’s derived from Berkeley Hunt.
Can you please break down The Spot at the collider with Miles in Mumbattan? Spot showed the Spider-Verse to Miles before Miguel did.
Also Hobie was overly excited when Miles broke the "canon event".
Nah he was perfectly excited
That's good. I thought he was just pumped about miles' heroics but now that you mention it I see he was excited about breaking canon.
As a Londoner I’ve never met people rhyming words to indicate other words 💀
The Fact That You Pointed Out The Nuance Of Hobi Is Beautiful
I love that you included his interaction with Mayday😂😅
Tarzan and Jane!? You ain’t got a Danny, mate! Haha
I freaking love Hobbie and I love that the band going to be able to get together in the 3rd one miles lead vocals Gwen on the drums hobbie on the guitar
Spider-Ham on the kazoo
Peni Parker on therimin
Nicolas Cage yelling “not the bees!”
These vids are so cool, love how much time and effort you guys put in to these 👍
What I think a lot of people skipped over is when they showed the mcu prowler and hobie said I caught this one so where and when at one point did mcu clash with hobie meet and who in the mcu built a possible collider
This is SOOOOO DOPE!!! I understood everything when I watched it. I was stationed in London from 2000-2003. I absolutely loved it!!
When I watched this movie for the first time, it was Hobie me and my brother only talked about cause of his uniqueness of his character
Hello, Brit here - no-one has ever said ‘Tarzan and Jane’ when they mean ‘Plane’. Also a lot of what the character said wasn’t ‘cockney’ just urban UK. It was great that they went to the effort to get this right
What is cockney and what do you call planes in Britain?
Planes
Happy I watched it with subtitles & normally watch things from across the pound
After the second movie viewing, it was clear Hobie was the secret hero of the film
Hobie: "Is this the younger from 1610?"
Me: "Uhh, I'm pretty sure Miles is from the 21st century... ohhhh, wait, he's not talking about the year."
Crazy, Im actually watching ATSV for the 1st time rn 💀
Enjoy peak!
I'm doin my 16th round bruh
Criminal offense side eye 👀
I understand everything spider punk said because I live just outside of London in a town called Woking
You didn't mention how Hobie literally asked miles why he wanted a spider society watch, and then tells him to make his own. Which he does himself later in the movie
Many thanks for this insightful video!
I watched this awesome video breaking down Hobie’s deception and the character depth! It had some crossover with this! Video titled “When a deep character pretends to be shallow”
When he said “I don’t like consistency” that was so deep it still went above my head.
I don't think chaos has the right word I would say he's more for Anarchy and it definitely fits with the time in the place from where he's from not to mention the whole anti-establishment thing
true, people that dont understand Anarchism have a hard time explaining it
It’d be absolutely amazing if the third installment in beyond the spider-verse introduces us with Spider Punk story just like Gwen’s
L
Gonna be honest, if they introduce anyone, I reckon it’ll either be Miguel’s story and about why he lost his family in the first place or the spot and how he ended up at the science place
I talk like Hobie now. My friends and family Really Love It..
I know I had to pause and rewind to read the insets for the meanings and just to catch what Hobie said! Thanks for this one.
Their is a rap duo called Pete & Bas that is from that area that rap with Cockney slang. They are two older dudes in like their 70's and are probably the best rap duo out right now.
of all of my favorite spider characters, hobie b and, regardless of the movie protrayal, miguel are at the top and their portrayals in spiderverse was impressively outstanding! learning the way they used the varying framerates for hobie makes it 1000% better!
I like the part of the video where you don't decode any secret messages of spider-punk because there were none in the movie and you explain that he is talking in a cool stylized way. It really fits the title of the video.
lol i loved your cockney rhyming slang example... i always wondered what that meant in austin powers hahahaha
It's funny listening to this since I'm British and I understood everything he said and was laughing everytime he spoke
A kid find an abandoned house filled with ghosts he later finds out he himself is a ghost
Nothing to do with the video at all
Hobie could be a villain undercover, in the comics Earth 616 Hobie Brown is actually The Prowler. It’s obviously a speculation but you never know with all the twists n turns in ATSV, there’s bound to be some kinda twist in Beyond the Spiderverse..
It’s Miguel
The line that stuck out to me was when Jessica said "Hobie, you're not helping." he answers with "Good"
Coz Jessica wanted Hobie to help out Miguel... He's helping Miles, so it's "Good" he isn't helping their common enemy!
Like sneaky sneaky-
Great review!!!
I love Hobie!
Ik I needed this Eric Boss Hobbie Brown video the moment the movie introduced him 😂😂😂
Solidarity with unions everywhere! Power to the people!
This is exactly what I was thinking when I saw the movie. I need to watch this again and slower and more methodically because there is too much going on.
Hobie's a hero that's such a rebel that makes him likable
Erik Voss.. you crushed this. And finally you may understand a little Cockney English. Cheers from the UK.
Don Cheadle also does this as basher in oceans 11. "Unless we tend to do this job in reno we're in barney ". Everyone looks at him like what. Then he says "barney rubble". Everyone still like what the hell. Then he says "trouble".
hobie will risk his life to help save miles & his father
"for the record... I quit" G shit