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@@flakcannon722 moriori were occupying the chatham islands in the 1500s maoris were already in nz during the 1300s lol, considering the chatham islands are far away it would seem that would be the last place to be occupied.

@@flakcannon722 stop spreading misinformation and considering the chatham islands are apart of nz now lol.

@@flakcannon722 wheres your proof?

@@flakcannon722 I know my shit bruh, i whakapa directly to ranghaeta who was te rauparahas nephew lol whom his dad was te kawa and his mother te wharepouri sister of te rauparaha. I know my shit bruh my bloods thicker than majority of maori. Ngahoata Te Ramapiupiu go look that shit up.

not exactly true. the two iwi who went to the chathams to attack moriori were ngati mutunga and ngati tama. they were displaced from their taranaki homelands by waikato maori, not by the british. the british did bring guns into the country, and that enabled waikato maori to attack taranaki iwi, so i guess you could say "because of the british", but it was not the british who displaced them.

@@eeeaten that is what i meant, i was gonna point waikato out but i didnt want to lol, hence why i dont respect kiingitanga lol, i can get down to the nitty gritty but yeah, Im a te ramapiupiu but most know me as a ngahoata, Ngahoata Te Ramapiupiu was brother to Ngati Te Ramapiupiu who was titokowarus wife, but ngahoata te ramapiupiu married hinerangi who was daughter of rangihaeta and hine kura, rangihaeta was te rauparahas nephew lol. rangiahaeta was the son of te kawa whom married te rauparahas sister.

​@@Breezeyy kia ora, i grew up near patea, down the road from kuranui paa. it's been a long time since i heard these names.

At the time of the invasion of the Chatham Islands in the 1830s, the British Crown had begun establishing its presence in New Zealand, but it was not yet fully established or in control of all regions. The British formally annexed New Zealand in 1840 with the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi. Prior to this, the British had some level of influence and presence, but their authority was not comprehensive or fully enforced throughout New Zealand or its surrounding territories like the Chatham Islands. The Chatham Islands were not formally part of New Zealand at the time of the invasion. The British government and its representatives were aware of the situation, but their control and influence over such distant regions were limited. The invasion and subsequent treatment of the Moriori people were largely driven by local Māori iwi rather than direct British intervention or control.

Watch the video

The chatham Islands are in nz

@@TuiPolitics according to the demograph today but back in those days Wharekauri or Rēkohu the Moriori name for it did not come under the colonised umbrella of NZ

@@YIUDUUB you should watch the video. the misconception is stated then refuted.

@@eeeaten I read your comment so I watched it and yes, it's a great video. I was blinded by my tiresome anger of constant Māori bashing that I turned it off as soon as I heard the statement of Moriori being first peoples of Aotearoa. Well done @TuiPolitics your work is thorough and well presented. Mauri Ora

you should watch a bit longer to see if it's really saying what you think it's saying, then if you still disagree, what do you disagree on?

race essentialist nonsense

You’re halfway there but are being obtuse. Obviously not all Māori are responsible for the actions of a few in the 1830s. Just like all Europeans aren’t to blame for the actions of the Nazis in the 1940s. Make sense? The British aren’t at responsible for the attack on moriori either. The responsibility of the British crown began when the treaty extended the rights of British subjects to moriori and Māori, which meant moriori should be liberated from slavery. Added to that, the native land court dispossessed moriori of their lands. The inaction regarding slavery, and the action taking the land from moriori, are the two things the crown needed to address.

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@@ourpeople-g7r racist drivel

you are lumping all white people together just like you are accusing pakeha of doing. few people today justify the actions of the crown using the genocide of moriori.

What a disgrace , did u even watch it?

this is what dumb people say about science and history.

you are agreeing with the video

Maoris always consider themselvs as one entity when it is to their advantage. But as soon as there is something negative....no no. That was those other maoris. 😂😂😂

@@ourpeople-g7r vague racist nonsense. You have no clue.

you are still grouping people together by race. maori were very diverse and regarded themselves as different peoples. there was conflict in nz like there was conflict in many parts of the world.

@eeeaten regardless if a group of people THINK they are different based on tribal views, genetically, they were the same people. And yes, no ones saying conflict is confined to Maori. Conflict was and still is, a human trait. I look at Maori back when they came here as a Stone Age peoples to those that roamed the Britanic region thousands of years ago. They fought with clubs, sticks, they took lands, slaves, they cannabalised eachother. All our ancestors did that at some point over our history, its not just Maori. Others just developed faster then Maori which in its own is fascinating. What kept Maori so isolated from other sea going travelers is a big question.

"Just like you cant blame the ancestors today, of those English who colonised NZ, for what happened back then." @eeeaten won´t let you get away with that comment.😂 @eeeaten, just like all maoris, puts the blame onto others. @eeeaten will tell you that it´s not the fault of the maoris that they killed the Moriori but that is was the fault of the collonisers. And that makes it ok. Blame it on someone else. That preservs their mana.

News from the Rotorua Daily Post: "Child, 2, dies after Rotorua driveway accident, family member steals from doctor trying to save child's life." As hospital staff tried to save the life of a 2-year-old boy run over in a Rotorua driveway, a family member swiped a doctor's two phones and a bank card and went on a spending spree. The child died a short time later but Melissa Herewini (A MAORI) had already taken the bank card to four stores in Rotorua and bought alcohol, food, petrol, phone credit and cigarettes.

Got a source for that? Or is it just "trust me bro"

This is incorrect and no legitimate scientist or historian agrees with you

New Zealand Hearald news headline 29 May, 2024 “Raglan man Simon Terence Hamiora Kereopa drags partner outside naked, pours boiling water over her“ Kereopa ( A MAORI) dragged her outside through the kitchen door by her arms, down the kitchen steps and onto the ground. He then grabbed the kettle, which was just inside the door, and poured the boiling water over the victim - who was naked at the time - directly onto her skin. As he did so, Kereopa told her “you deserve it, and that’s what you get”. He then told her he would reboil the jug and pour it on her face. She ran to seek help from her sister but she was asleep, before running into her daughter’s room and hugging her. Kereopa then went into the room and said, “once you let go, I’m burning your face”. Judge Stephen Clark noted Kereopa’s 17 family violence convictions, eight of which were against the current victim. The man responsible, Simon Terence Hamiora Kereopa, was today jailed for the incident, his ninth conviction against the victim during their 20-year-plus relationship.

what are you talking about? which europeans? when?

nope.

you'd think they know what they call themselves?

This is incorrect. You got a source for that?

Māori were the first people of nz. Brailsford is a notorious kook. Māori did not attack moriori until 1835.

To educate?

@@eeeaten a certain point of view....yeah.

@@tast7017I feel like you have an agenda but are too afraid to say what you really mean.

@@eeeaten lol really? no agenda. Im neutral. Not even a kiwi lol, Just here with an open mind to learn things. Certainly not afraid to say what i think...even without you attempting to bait me lol. All i ask for in videos like this is 100% accuracy. Coming at this from a neutral perspective i found it interesting that the instances that some people could potentially be critical of maori culture for, the Moriori situation for example, this video exonerates the maori people of any wrong doing whatsoever. Theres other examples too. I have no interest in a back and forth with you though lol

@@tast7017 if you think the video intended to exonerate the people who attacked the moriori you misunderstood. those people went to the chathams to take the land and people as their own, slaughtered and enslaved peaceful people. the issue is whether we blame "maori" for it, when maori were many different peoples. to blame "maori" as a group is like saying white people are responsible for the actions of the nazis.

Did you disagree with something in the video?

I couldn't tell you why they did it, all that matters is they did do it. They took a European made boat to the chattam islands. It's just the history fact

those iwi were displaced from their taranaki homeland by other iwi (waikato) to the north. they were in wellington with their allies ngati toa, considering their options. they made a conscious decision to go to an island nation to take the lands and people there. so they hijacked the british ship and went to the chathams. the existence of moriori on the chathams hadn't long been known about - they were isolated until a british ship found them in the 1790s.

@@eeeaten think the British operated the ship their not the Maori. Secondly a lot of Maori knew about them living in the Chathams. I feel like the pakeha provoked it and even loaded ngati mutunga up just in case. The moriori had a meeting and the Maori overheard ior thought they were gonna get attacked so they initiated it first. It was a tactic used so the crown could steal the land from their original taranaki whenua. Yea other tribes were claiming some and sold off to pakeha but a lot of it was confiscated from them from the crown. Hence why Ngati mutunga jumped at the chance to fight against the crown in the taranaki wars.

@@joshua29885 as above, maori hijcaked the ship, forcing the crew to sail them to the chathams. it's nonsense to think pakeha provoked the situation, and did not provide provisions. when the _rodney_ arrived in the chathams the warriors were sick and starving from the journey, and moriori nursed them back to good health. it is documented that moriori met to discuss the violence being done to them, some younger men wanted to fight but they were denied by the elders. the crown had not stolen the land in taranaki back then, there were less than 1000 british people in the country. waikato maori had invaded and driven ngati mutunga and ngati tama off. the wars with the british crown were decades after, so are not relevant to motivation for the attack. you can read all of this online, or i recommend michael king's books.

@@eeeaten yea we know so why do pakeha blame all Maori for chathams island attack. And use that as an excuse for the poor treatment of Maori on mainland. 🤷‍♂️. But ngati mutunga did participate in the fighting on mainland aswell. The moriori if they had fought back might have been a different outcome come due to their numbers at the time.