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dude it's 50+ going to the Philippines XD you can get the new Hachidorii XS68 and XS60 from Quadview Germany. Also, there's a thingiverse link in the description for the V2 in the other video

@im_ricebowl thanks so much man! Ikr shipping is crazzzyyyy!!!

hmmm I'd assume that's only in ideal conditions when the wind is the same direction as thrust. Small motors will struggle with wind that's going against it's thrust direction

@ oh yeah I mean light winds. A breeze is a gust to a whoop for sure. It’s no 5”. I recently made a build with 32,500kv and took it outside during somewhat heavier winds and by golly it actually flew. All of the lower kv motors I tried before were unflyable in the same winds. I can’t fly it inside. Maybe I got lucky with the motors but I did notice a big difference flying it outside.

@@WindChillFPV I'll agree to that XD I think having higher KV kinda helps a motor keep up with winds. Though, you can always add a throttle limit and play around with throttle expo when flying indoors. That's why I do the "fly under the car" test cause these high kv motors make throttle so sensitive

@ I could but I rarely fly inside. It was more of an experiment with extra parts. I’m more of a 75mm guy but after trying out these motors I’m rethinking it. Never would have thought 65mm could even fly outside. Saw you ripping your yard with this and bumping into stuff inside. It just felt familiar. Might throttle limit a tad bit anyway. 32,500kv is insane. Keep on ripping, sir. Always awesome content! 🤙

@WindChillFPV I gotta try those higher KV stuff too soon. Even at 30000kv, I feel like I gotta expo it XD. Maybe I'm not as skilled as some of you guys. Thanks for watching and the support my guy! this whole thing is like a dream of mine XD so definitely!

I'd honestly say that's just a normal thing for whoops. never turtle mode in grass XD. I think even if the escs were 12a, they'd still burn out. Also, grass usually is moist so that probably also contributed. hope it was a fun 5 packs tho XD thanks for watching!

just checked it out and yeah! pretty good actually. I'd still say not as good as the c03 but definitely a lot more usable than using the v3.1 aio. very interesting. will make an updated post and pinned comment soon about it thanks man!

@@im_ricebowl Credit goes to Heads @infinityloops hes the one that let me know.

thanks man! I highly suggest betafpv's air65/75 or their meteor 75 pro. I am recommending analog over digital as it's not fun worrying about replacing a vtx and camera that is worth a whole analog drone XD. And less weight generally gives a better experience. the air 65 is the best for indoors and is honestly really fun to fly even outdoors. however, you may want to play around with the throttle mid and expo to have better throttle control the air75 is generally what I give people who want to fly both indoors and outdoors. it's not the best in either but it'll handle both well - just need a little extra effort and skill when flying indoors. similarly, play around with throttle expo and mid. the meteor 75 pro is the one with the most controllability out of the three. when I say controllability, it's like it just goes the to the direction you point it to go to. Like it's on rails. it's also the tankiest so no need to worry about breaking stuff. however, it is big, it is the heaviest, and it is prettyyyyy calm compared to how punch the air 65 or 75 are. would honestly recommend this only if you fly outdoors. there's videos about this on my channel if you want more indepth commentary around them!

@im_ricebowl thank you!!!

@crechr no problem man! have fun!

I'm glad my humor is coming across 😂 I swear, that was just a result of me doing an all nighter and deciding "it would be really funny to try to record before I sleep" 😂

I also like how it flies and even after a month of testing, it still is performing pretty great. actually just checked - placed the camera on an air75 and it looks significantly better (but not better than the c03). Something about nbd's aio not having an osd chip making it look like that. thanks for sharing your experience man!

osd is probably the single most common comment here XD and I'll agree to that. actually connected the camera to a different aio and it looked alot better. actually, now I'm thinking what if you just cut the wires short and solder on normal silicon wires XD. no pcb at the motor side but still usable

someday I gotta make a "ricebowl out of context" video 😂

@@im_ricebowl i would love to see it man great content!

it do be pretty fun!

@ I imagine

give it a try man! honestly really like the tune on this and even more so after doing some of Chris's changes. now I gotta practice powelooping a spinning fan 🤔

@ haha yah moving targets are tough. I like flying analog but HATE editing it so I’ve been grabbing walksnail and splitcam builds every chance I get. So it seems like a cool quad but I have no desire or need to fly it. Haha it is really cheap though… maybe I get it and add a split cam to it. It’d be about the same weight as the original mob6

@@Shauny_D speaking of that actually, I remember you mentioning you fly HD 65 on a 2s right? what kind of build have you been using lately? ngl, might be better to go with the betafpv air g4 to pair with a split camera 🤔 seems like several issues with the hummingbirds v3.1 aio based on the other comments

@@im_ricebowl yah I agree that new Betafpv FC with better bec. I love my 2 board builds in the 75mm 1s setup. FC and HD or Splitcam dvr board with 0802 25000kv motors. I can't beat that setup. Looks like the DJI 04 lite is just 1 gram heavier than the walksnail and splitcam. Well 2 grams over walksnail after pulling that crazy heatsink off. Yes i do have a couple 2s 65mm one analog and one splitcam hd. I have the parts ready for a walksnail version but haven't taken the time to build yet. Tried 75pro too but it sucked. That 75mm is perfect for it.

I just searched it up 😂 I think it's ironic using that to bleep out some of the curse words here 😂

Is this for real?! The good old EEWs that I buy in at least strips of 100 because they generally last less than 100 packs of my type of flying before their resistances go haywire and kill flight performance, or just downright burn out??? Nice. I generally don't use NBD AIOs because of the OSD, and don't do repairs on them. But damn.

@@xer125 mannnnmn I actually was gonna add that in my review but couldn't get a definitive answer from anyone. Saw comments in other reviewer videos but....sucks man. I'll pin a comment in the morning. thanks for bringing this up!

@@lemonsquareFPV yep eews, same here for nbd, the proprietary osd means relying on nbd for bf updates (an example of why this is bad is rn the v3.1 rs aio isn’t updated to a version of bf with some dynamic idle fixes for whoops) Good thing about the 5a fets is when they do go out they go quietly and don’t take the board with them unlike real 12a fets that often destroy the copper under them.

@@xer125 Thank you for the info. I have been running nightly builds on all my Betaflight stuff over the past few years, and have had much less issues than the official releases. So I don't like proprietary for this reason. And yes, over the probably around 1000 EEWs that I have swapped, for myself and others, over the years. All have been internal failures and there has never been board/copper damage, at all. Thankfully almost all the manufacturer's AIO designs, except BetaFPV, make swaps ridiculously quick and easy. But honestly even having to work on both sides of the board, remove and reinstall new plugs, and work around stupidly placed tiny components is still sub 10 minutes to swap all the MOSFETS. So while annoying, it's not bad.

Fr tho I need a hachidorii v2 for my air75. That frame is broken in like 7 different places and is all out of stock (plus it's my only working quad)

YEAH BABYY need to Speedrun some videos XD might get busy with thesis and some projects (hahidorii compilation and documentation) soon

I heard that betafpv frames break so easily in cold weather XD had that issue too when I went to the US. Give the V2 a try! pair it up with some mob 7 v2 ducts or 3d printed ones

Sounds good!

KAACK is for racing, we use with pro spec and other spec races with RPM limiting

The main issue with this drone is there is no OSD chip on the FC, they use a special firmware to add on the OSD and that limits your ability to adjust vtx channel and power from LUA script. you have to use usb or osd VTX menu.

I use the bribrian tbell lifted 3d print at 40 degree cam angle

The motor wires snap off, and then you have to solder a ever shorter enameled wire. its a PAIN at the race to do

NBD had an issue with their early batch of the lite af frame, making them more fragile, so many have an incorrect assessment

@@JoelSilva-gk4hq Thank you for supporting it man! happy to see people still flying analog especially on these tiny drones XD. Great choices btw for your first drones - was eying the Nimble65 too but never got the chance to try it but liked what it was going for. yeah even I struggled with this one XD very fast and it's target demographic is really for racers XD or people who have the space. Thanks again for stopping by and watching man! hope you continue to enjoy the fpv hobby!

@@DanteKeith such a fun word to shout XD

It is in all caps. You pretty much have to shout it 😂

@@JoelSilva-gk4hq you know the rules and so do I XD

@@jkpisces I think either is fine. the 75 pro has a bit more control and flight time but it's bigger and heavier. I think the air 75 can have those with some changes like triblade props and lower camera angle

purely outdoors just get the 75 pro since it has more control and more flight time. however, I'd say the air 75 has more fun and punch

@@im_ricebowl thanks , will take it into consideration . great flying in your videos

@@jkpisces I think you'll have loads of fun regardless of what you get XD thanks man!

@@im_ricebowl which one has a longer flight time with a 1s 550mah?

@jkpisces generally drones with larger props = more efficient so thats the 75 pro

thanks man! they do but this was because one of his motors was damaged from a crash he had. not sure what they're like brand new. still waiting for betafpv to see if they want me to review the 75 pro 04 as they're currently on holiday

omg I'm taking a screenshot of this! made my day man thank you so much for stopping by!!

@@GideonFPV very much XD I'm used to analog so I can feel the latency and the O4 version is a lot hevsuer than the analog version. honestly for the O4, I'd rather go 2s

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@@im_ricebowl wait mode ako sa meteor75 pro. Cny dun kaya ang bagal. Update kita.

@cyrusserrano2356 sige sige hope you enjoy it man!

thanks man!

@@im_ricebowlhow long you been flying?

@kekmaestro3627 close to 7 years!

@@danonfpv If you don't mind me asking man I'd love to know what parts you went with and what you parts you designed! ngl, I did find it fiddly with the amount of screws that needed to be removed everytime you needed to access smth but kinda brushed it off to cinewhoops usually having lots of screws XD. thank you man! and for watching! I appreciate your insight and I'm glad this video reached its audience XD

thanks man! a lot more is gonna come soon on the hachidorii series of frames! I gotchu man 🤝

yupp it fits!

@im_ricebowl Are u sure? like 2 people Say me its not good 550mh ..... idk u can try? 🫤

@@Son1c55 well your question was if you could use a 550 XD if it's any good...I guess it'll be on the heavier side which will definitely affect performance but not make it unflyable

thanks man XD

just some filter changes, removed d max, adjusted the D gains a bit, and changed rpm filtering to 48khz. Actually just things people recommend for the standard analog 75 pro but seems to be fine for the O4 variant too. I do actually plan to make a review for it but it's also up to betafpv if they want me to review it XD I can't review this one since it's my friend's and It had damage already when I tried it. but Incase I don't get to review it, my current thoughts of it is that, it's really only worth getting if you just plan to cruise. Lots of propwash, great control but definitely no punch, and ultimately suited for slow cruising. I mean you can push it to do freestyle like I am trying but....it's not fun fun. Really have to stay in that throttle to get any altitude and the fov of the 04 lite is just too narrow. with this in mind, it's great for cruising and the flight time is actually respectable [around 4 to 5 mins]. the turning and throttle control is pretty good and smooth. kinda treat it like a cinewhoop. now I do have a Hachidorii HD planned that is going to be a 2s cinewhoop. And I did get to try a prototype recently. I kinda prefer 2s more XD. you now have the option to have more power for flying outdoors but can turn it down a bit with throttle limits to have it docile and smooth for indoors.

I gotchu man. I'll even hand you a certificate if you want XD

@im_ricebowl yes please xD Edit: would you recommend the air75 or the meteor75 pro for a beginner? I've never flown with an fpv drone before (i don't count my DJI mini 1 as a fpv in this case xD) and would use it for fun outside and try out tricks.

PIDs I have on this were the defaults and I believe you can find the diff file for the 75 pro on betafpv's website [support.betafpv.com/hc/en-us/articles/16846305078297-CLI-for-Meteor75-Pro-2024] Always make sure you have all your hardware secured and none of the motors or props are causing excessive vibrations here's my rates which I use for all my drones # rateprofile 1 set rateprofile_name = RiceBowl set rates_type = ACTUAL set quickrates_rc_expo = OFF set roll_rc_rate = 54 set pitch_rc_rate = 34 set yaw_rc_rate = 59 set roll_expo = 6 set pitch_expo = 3 set yaw_expo = 5 set roll_srate = 85 set pitch_srate = 83 set yaw_srate = 150 set roll_rate_limit = 1998 set pitch_rate_limit = 1998 set yaw_rate_limit = 1998 set roll_level_expo = 0 set pitch_level_expo = 0

sadly can't say XD this is my friend's that needed some adjustments after a bad crash that made one of the motors have extra vibrations.

@CyanideFPV will actually have a full documentation and build video for the hachidorii series soon! this includes the recommended parts that each hachidorii version can use, the tune, and links to all the printable parts. the V2 can use the the injection molded frames like the mob 7 v2/v4 ducts or the air75. If you're gonna print the ducts, expect the ducts to be a disposable item but they do last a while. You can check out my IG as many people have built their own V2s - including digital and even 2s builds. the reason the ducts break is because they essentially take all the impact. and if you have a piece of foam under the camera, the electronics and cf frame will be virtually completely safe.

@CyanideFPV it's the built in stabilization on the O4 lite XD without it, it'll look like the usual snappy dvr XD will also actually stay with analog for a long time too. I just got the 04 and G3 so I can cater to digital pilots too when I design frames

Fair enough lol! Would like to see some raw footage/DVR 👀

@CyanideFPV will do on the next ones!

I appreciate the kind words my guy! shes flying pretty well despite some damage on one motor XD. And I am using my custom rates

Fair play! Can only hope to gain your skill sets at some point. How about the PID tune? Are they stock or have you tinkered?

@@KontrollaKid6969 I think the 75 pro will always be my go to beginner drone. I've even handed mine to some new pilots to try and they like it. It's docile, tanky, and generally more controllable than other whoops. There's also tons of mods for it, so when you grow, it grows too. There's a review of it in my channel if you wanna check it out!

@im_ricebowl thx for the advice, I'd already seen both reviews XD

Thanks for the support man XD hope you enjoy which ever you choose! you won't go wrong with either

@im_ricebowl yeah love your vids, keep up the work!

@KontrollaKid6969 will do! thanks again!

@cyrusserrano2356 I have the vifly whoopstor which let's me fully charge to 4.2v and storage charge to 3.8v. If I'm not gonna use it for multiple days, it's at the storage voltage.

yeah 30000kv sucks the battery quick XD I think it got a little more than 2mins and 30sec on a 380. tho, I'll add that my whoop at the time was easily 20g dry

love the days where I can fly casually after studying hard XD. appreciate the kind comment man!

@@im_ricebowl Hey did you know that you can change the sound of start up to a custom sound on your radio

@FusionKiwi-s9k ohhh I didn't know that XD got any tutorial for it?

@@im_ricebowl i don't sorry. I've done it to my radio but there is a chance i could show you if you really wanted to do it.

@FusionKiwi-s9k no worries man! I'll hit you up if I ever decide to though I think I know how you did it....changed the audio file in the SD card for the startup?

@FusionKiwi-s9k thank you man!

@@GideonFPV dw man 🙌 it'll get better soon!

@prayerone1067 thanks! currently using fatshark HDO with the eachine pro58 with achillez firmware.

@@im_ricebowlthanks!!

@Cyan1deFPV thanks man!

thanks man! appreciate it!

@@Shrubs_stuff hell yeah it does. Didn't get to appreciate that in my original video but I swear - it was so windy during this day

@FusionKiwi-s9k between the air65 and Hummingbird RS?

@@im_ricebowl Over any quad / whoop

@FusionKiwi-s9k personally, an all rounder is definitely the air 65. I think the air g4 is a great aio for analog and it's easy to get sub 17g builds with it. the motors are pretty standard - definitely some other more capable and stronger motors but they're completely fine as a bnf kit. I love the c03 camera and I think it's a great camera. It's also a bnf that can easily be turned into smth like a fractal 65 pro or my hachidorii XS60 so lots of mods and changes that can be done if you want to play around with that stuff

Interesting Thanks

@@im_ricebowl I will Be buying a Meteor 75 pro Around June Which will be fun. i hope .

@@angeldimagiba7848 if copyright stuff wasn't so scary, I'd be sharing a lot more XD.

@cyrusserrano2356 kinda mentioned this in 9:20 since one could be "better" in one aspect but not as good in another. Air75 is lighter and punchier but the 75 pro has more control

@@im_ricebowl watching both of your video reviews.. cannot unsee the tacos scene. lol.. ok, noted on those info. im beginner fpv, im trying to weigh which quad to buy.

@cyrusserrano2356 I love the taco scene I delayed this video just to get some tacos XD honestly, my advice for beginners is to not overthink it. These newer drones are pretty good out of the box, decent enough QC to lessen hassle, and are capable enough for a beginner. Get the cheaper option (or more available option - including spares cause you'll eventually need them) and you should be good to go.

@@im_ricebowl i actually dont want to over spend, which i actually did. i have some DJI gears already. Neo and Googles N3. so im eyeing the Meteor75 Pro 04, with extra batt and props and a few motors..

@cyrusserrano2356 hmmm if that's the case tho you should check out the 75 pro 04 bnfs since the analog ones will definitely be a lot different from the 04 ones. gonna review one as soon as betafpv gives the green light