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We make the world of Ancient history accessible and engaging to all, anywhere in the world. All of Ancient Greek mythology is covered as well as religion and history from the smallest allusion in Ovid to the broadest application of critical theory!
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The most extraordinary tale in Greek mythology
The myth of Dionysus Zagreus is probably the most unique and intriguing narrative in all of Greek mythology. It revolves around the origin and death of the Greek god Dionysus (here born to Zeus and Persephone and named Zagreus). According to the myth, the god met a tragic fate when the monstrous Titans brutally attacked and dismembered him. In retaliation for the Titans' actions, Zeus unleashed his wrath upon them, obliterating them with his thunderbolts. From their ashes, a new race emerged - mankind.
The myth of Dionysus Zagreus has been associated with the concept of the duality of man's nature, suggesting that humans possess both divine and mortal aspects. Some scholars, such as Guthrie, have interpreted the myth as a central dogma of this duality, with the Titans representing the wicked element in humans and Dionysus representing the divine. While the myth has been linked to Orphic beliefs regarding the soul's imprisonment in the body, there is limited evidence to support the idea that humans share in the Titans' crime and have an "original sin" based on their actions. The fragmentary nature of the myth and the lack of comprehensive sources contribute to the complexity of understanding Dionysus Zagreus, making it a subject of ongoing scholarly exploration
Questions? Drop me (Aaron) a comment below or email at contact@keimelia.com
Greek myth explained:
What is Myth?: ua-cam.com/video/VWd112lLVdc/v-deo.html
Was Greece an Egyptian colony?: ua-cam.com/video/4aeq-AyPwMw/v-deo.html
Did Ancient Greece have Ancient History?: ua-cam.com/video/tTY8YUZFqu8/v-deo.html
Did the Greeks Believe in their Myths?: ua-cam.com/video/UmNPmM6C1Sk/v-deo.html
Greek Religious Practice:
The Truth about Ancient Sacrifice: ua-cam.com/video/5bxxTLwXZB8/v-deo.html
The Orphic Mysteries: https: //ua-cam.com/video/AAwFXX864pM/v-deo.html
Homer's Theory of the Soul: ua-cam.com/video/9_h6wd-DxY4/v-deo.html
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction
00:31 - The myth of Dionysus Zagreus
01:38 - Olympiadorus’ commentary on Plato
03:26 - The Orphics on suicide
04:31 - Other sources: Onomacritus to Plutarch
06:21 - Alchemical philosophy
08:21 - Conclusions
The myth of Dionysus Zagreus has been associated with the concept of the duality of man's nature, suggesting that humans possess both divine and mortal aspects. Some scholars, such as Guthrie, have interpreted the myth as a central dogma of this duality, with the Titans representing the wicked element in humans and Dionysus representing the divine. While the myth has been linked to Orphic beliefs regarding the soul's imprisonment in the body, there is limited evidence to support the idea that humans share in the Titans' crime and have an "original sin" based on their actions. The fragmentary nature of the myth and the lack of comprehensive sources contribute to the complexity of understanding Dionysus Zagreus, making it a subject of ongoing scholarly exploration
Questions? Drop me (Aaron) a comment below or email at contact@keimelia.com
Greek myth explained:
What is Myth?: ua-cam.com/video/VWd112lLVdc/v-deo.html
Was Greece an Egyptian colony?: ua-cam.com/video/4aeq-AyPwMw/v-deo.html
Did Ancient Greece have Ancient History?: ua-cam.com/video/tTY8YUZFqu8/v-deo.html
Did the Greeks Believe in their Myths?: ua-cam.com/video/UmNPmM6C1Sk/v-deo.html
Greek Religious Practice:
The Truth about Ancient Sacrifice: ua-cam.com/video/5bxxTLwXZB8/v-deo.html
The Orphic Mysteries: https: //ua-cam.com/video/AAwFXX864pM/v-deo.html
Homer's Theory of the Soul: ua-cam.com/video/9_h6wd-DxY4/v-deo.html
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction
00:31 - The myth of Dionysus Zagreus
01:38 - Olympiadorus’ commentary on Plato
03:26 - The Orphics on suicide
04:31 - Other sources: Onomacritus to Plutarch
06:21 - Alchemical philosophy
08:21 - Conclusions
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Why do philosophers hate poetry?
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Did the philosophers hate the poets in Ancient Greece? Plato believed that poetry played a vital role in educating Athenian citizens but was flawed because it relied on imitation (mimesis) rather than true knowledge. Plato criticized poetry for its unreliable moral guidance and the danger of swaying people by emotions. In contrast, Plato believed philosophy was the true path to the Forms and ph...
The Gods of War: Mars vs Ares
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The gods of war ARES and MARS -one Greek one Roman- exemplify some stark differences in cultural attitudes towards ancient battle. The character and worship of Roman Mars suggests an emphasis on military prowess, reflected in organized cult practices and elaborate festivals. On the other hand the bloodthirsty Ares revealed a more ambivalent stance on battle - with good elements and bad elements...
Uncovering the Sacred Language of Homer
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The most ancient form of commentary is sacred commentary. Allegorical readings of literature-above all the mythological poems of Homer and Hesiod, were decoded as accounts of the physical world or the truths of morality. These coded and cypher readings are not modern but appear in our sources as early as the 6th century BCE. They were an established (if controversial) practice by the end of the...
Did the Greeks Think their Statues were Literally Gods?
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What was a cult image? In ancient Greece, a cult image was a representation of a deity that was housed in a temple or sanctuary - it held a central place in cult. But Greek temples were inundated with all sorts of images and statues. Were only _some_ of them real representations of the gods? The cult statue was an important focal point of worship and served as a physical embodiment of the deity...
Hecate: The Mysterious Goddess of Witchcraft and the Crossroads
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Hecate (sometimes spelled Hekate) is an ancient Greek goddess associated with magic, witchcraft, the moon, and crossroads. Into the modern age, the goddess Hekate has been known as the mistress of ghosts, as the demonic mediator par excellence between above and below. She is closely associated with magic and the "use" of the spirits of the dead. Particularly in later antiquity, she is herself r...
Were the Romans as Corrupt as we Think?
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Was ancient Rome more corrupt than ancient Athens? Why was there so much political instability? It depends. At Rome, there were powerful cultural factors which made maintaining fair governance a challenge. A charge of ambitus was an accusation of electioneering or corruption: bribery or influencing voters in an election. But these charges were not always interpreted fairly or wielded appropriat...
How Civil Wars Started in the Ancient World
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Thucydides' description of civil war on the island of Corcyra is a uniquely shocking and illuminating moment in his history of the Peloponnesian war. The stasis at Corcyra (modern-day Corfu) in the 5th century BCE was a struggle for power between two factions: the wealthy landowning aristocrats and the common people. The conflict eventually escalated into a brutal civil war, in which both sides...
How to Understand Greek Tragedy
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Greek Tragedy is one of the most influential literary forms that originated in Greece. It is particularly associated with Athens in the 5th century BCE - the period that saw its growth to preeminence. Set in the context of Greek festival practice, Greek Tragedy was formally very complex. Here we take a look at Tragedy's origins, its early history, its form and performance at the dramatic festiv...
What Did Socrates Believe?
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Socrates was an enigma, an inscrutable iconoclast. Despite writing nothing, he is considered to be one of the handful of philosophers who changed how we think about our world, our lives and philosophy itself. In 399 BCE he was put to death by the Athenian state for the crime of asebeia "impiety". The time was a turbulent one for Athens - they had just lost the Peloponnesian war, suffered throug...
Homer's Theory of the Mind: Psyche, Thumos, and Nous.
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Homer's Theory of the Mind: Psyche, Thumos, and Nous.
The Ancient Olympics: a day in the life of a competitor!
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The Ancient Olympics: a day in the life of a competitor!
Did the Greeks Believe in their Myths?
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Did the Greeks Believe in their Myths?
Did "Ancient" Greece have Ancient History?
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Did "Ancient" Greece have Ancient History?
Was Ancient Greece an Egyptian colony?
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Was Ancient Greece an Egyptian colony?
The truth behind HERAKLES' twelve labors
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The truth behind HERAKLES' twelve labors
Apollo, the Healing God of the Greeks.
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Apollo, the Healing God of the Greeks.
The Nine Muses. Ancient Greek Mythology: Greek gods of poetry, the arts and memory.
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The Nine Muses. Ancient Greek Mythology: Greek gods of poetry, the arts and memory.
Poseidon. Ancient Greek Mythology: god of the sea, earthquakes and horses.
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Poseidon. Ancient Greek Mythology: god of the sea, earthquakes and horses.
Prometheus. Ancient Greek Mythology: Prometheus, a Friend of Man and Foe to the Gods.
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Prometheus. Ancient Greek Mythology: Prometheus, a Friend of Man and Foe to the Gods.
The Sophists. Ancient Greek Civilization: Socrates and Philosophy.
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The Sophists. Ancient Greek Civilization: Socrates and Philosophy.
Periklean Athens. Ancient Greek Civilization: Art and Architecture.
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Periklean Athens. Ancient Greek Civilization: Art and Architecture.
Democracy and Empire. Ancient Greek Civilization: Athenian Democracy.
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Democracy and Empire. Ancient Greek Civilization: Athenian Democracy.
There is no such thing indoEuropean enough with this bulshit
Tyrian's Veil From ocean's depths, a hue divine, Tyrian purple, rare and fine. A snail's secretion, precious art, A color born from nature's heart. In oracles' hands, a mystic brew, Visions danced, a psychedelic view. A portal opened to realms unknown, Where secrets whispered, softly sown. On parchment scrolls, its ink did flow, Chronicling histories, ebb and flow. A royal hue, for Cleopatra's grace, Adorning queens in regal space. Beyond the senses, a potent blend, Medicinal magic, to heal and mend. A color steeped in mystery's lore, From ancient rites, forevermore.
Paris is the son not brother of priam he is the brother of Hector. I would not expect you to make such a mistake.
I heard the Orphic / Dionysian ecstasy described and it recalled an experience I had, after chanting The Jesus Prayer for some hours. I felt like I was literally outside of myself, sort of above and behind, but, at the same time, I think, I never left the body. Something happened, on a spiritual level, with the locus of the "I". This mind-body mechanism continued to go about its business, like the whole thing was just a movie playing out; a river of celluloid passing under a lamp and a lens. The biological and cultural programing was all "I" had to work with, so to speak. But what had been a more rigid constellation of associations, between points of light, seemed to shatter, like ice crystals, then, to melt and pool and resurrect. While it was the same constellation as before, somehow, it was not so confining to me as it had been. As with the body, I seemed to overlook the connections in my own mind's experience, so that every point of data was now directly related to every other point; or, at any rate, if I could not anticipate every relation, nonetheless, I was poignantly impressed with the sense of my mental apparatus as a unity, in which the available information would surface, or find its way, through chain reactions; it was only a matter of time. The process could not be accelerated; but, at this point, it could be recognized; accepted. No longer was I so personally identified with those chemical and metaphysical reactions, like a pinball in my own mind, but, rather, I dispassionately "knew what I knew". My assumptions were all provisional, and I knew (i.e. assumed) that they did not need to be more, or other, than they were, in fact. The only possible associations between ideas were still just taking place, automatically, including doubts, reconfigurations, and deconstructions; as this "I" was felt by the body to be nothing but an eavesdropper, or a witness; more of an Eye, than an I. Everything happened with preternatural spontaneity. The body prepared tea, sat down, and sipped from it. The mind, or brain, was sort of vainly struggling to make sense of what had happened; to classify the experience, and identify with it, but none of the mental operations were "sticking". They just sort of broke up and floated off like smoke. After a while, the brain was speculating that "I" was a guardian angel or maybe just a light of awareness, overlooking this eternal river of mud. At the same time, it seemed plain that there was nothing else. Reality was fully present and there was nothing to compare with present reality, so there was no resistance or impatience; just a matter of fact awareness that it was all one thing; a sequence or stream in which "not one tittle of the law could be skipped", or overstepped. This person, whose life was the only life I had, at present, had no practical choice but to play out his karma/dharma, under the ever watchful eye of consciousness. Even if he/I became enlightened, there would still be nowhere else to go, nothing to discover, realize, transcend, or escape. All of that is it. This is it. This is the only world. Right here. Hello. Nothing is more spiritual than what is now, and your spiritual progress, so called, has nothing to do with you. We attach labels and invent distinctions but, ultimately, it's just this; I mean, that attaching was it, all along. A game to occupy the mind. As the ego is an identity for the light of awareness to occupy, inhabit, inherit, or receive as grace from God. It - He - can't do anything else but be Itself - Himself, like we can't; it is what it is. Sometimes I like to call it This. We may speak conveniently of "the other side", but, when we get "there", we do not call it "the other side"; rather, we will continue to say, just as we always have, "We are in this world", just as we shall always be. Amid reflections of this type, something clicked or reconnected; I seemed to decide that it was better to embrace this experience, since it was going to happen regardless, - it was the literal word and will of God, - and since it would be more interesting to surrender to the current; or allow myself to become reinvested with the journey. Since that day, I've been measurably much less anxious, more present, authentic, honest, confident, and courageous. I can date so many changes to that point. Another breakthrough, was fasting on water and electrolytes; specifically, potassium chloride and sodium chloride [SEE: "snake juice", or "snake diet"], and a generally low-carb, high-protein, high-fiber diet. That's my story, until it changes! 🙏 'NEAR IS AND DIFFICULT TO GRASP THE GOD' ~ Friedrich Hölderlin
Ten seconds in and I hit subscribe. That’s a rare move but I doubt I’ll be wrong on that judgement.
Salve padre Poseidón señor de los océanos poderoso hermanos del padre Zeus!!!
Glad I discovered your channel. Very good content.
Great work. Excellent breakdown. Simple but very good production value.
A+. Thank you.
Aaron, I’m a university student doing undergraduate research into Thucydides and Euripides, kind of doing a comparison of literature and identifying connecting elements of the two. I’ve been watching you for over a year and I always come back to this video. Your other videos have also inspired me and taught me so much since I started my undergrad in classics! Looking forward to your future content :)
Thank you that information on the Salii. Is there enough Information about them and their dance to merit a video?
He would seem to be Apollo/Helios of Troy. Although maybe not the same but they are related Apollo/ Helios is the son of Zeus. However Troy was built by dardanus an”” son of Zeus lol but Dardanus is really Darda son of Zerah, and Zerah is the son of Judah. Sometime before the Hebrew (Habiru) exodus from Egypt with Moses, there was a pre-exodus with Zerah, and Darda who went to Crete before sailing to Troy to found the city. While in Crete they must have stayed for a while where idk but maybe Zerah had some children namely Minos, Rhadamanthus, and Sarpedon and they were adopted by Asterion king of Crete. Antiphates is a son of Sarpedon and he travelled to Italy with Aneas, a distant relative of his. Aneas is a dardanian descendant of Dardanus/Darda and the three boys are like his great uncles or something. They’re also related to Demeter and Cybele through a brother of Dardanus named Iasion who consorted with those two godess and nymph, and with Demeter he father Ploutus the god of wealth. The Dardanians and the Persians are related through Perses son of Helios and Perseis; Perses was murdered by his niece Medea, and Iran was first called Persia and Medea after them. Around that time was the Atlantean kingdom. The swastica was found in Troy and the swasticas is an ancient sun symbol. Achilles being a descendant of Dan the progenitor of the Mycenaeans, may have been a god of war would no doubt have a problem with a sun god that won’t fight him, and Achilles with all the other heroes sacks the town, Apollo being Helios and father to the kings of the East.
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Nice video! I would also consider doing another video in the future to cover some of the other major words related to mental action and mental activity. There are a total of eight words that are notoriously difficult to translate: phrenes, kradie, kardia, ker, and prapides. They also overlap in peculiar ways. I have written about these previously in a paper called “Minds in Homer” (available online; just Google it). I make this recommendation because it’s important to remember that the ancients used these words differently than we do. Please keep up the terrific work!
Mars and ares are same...
Attic dialect: nominative ὁ Ζεύς Ζῆν genitive τοῦ Διός Ζηνός dativeτῷ τῷ Διῐ́ Ζηνῐ́ accusative τὸν Δίᾰ Ζῆνᾰ vocative ὦ! Ζεῦ Dialectal forms in the nominative case: Δάν, Σδεύς Dan,Sdeus (aeolic type ) Διεύς Diaeus (laconic) Ζάν Jan (Doric type ) Ζεῦς Zeus (lesbian type Ζήν Zen (poetic form) Θιός, Σιός Thios, Sios (Boeotian type) Τάν Tan (Cretan type)
Excellent work. Keep it up
I believe in my religion of vodoun and i like atheist, Blessed Be.
good video
Bribery was an interesting concept in ancient Rome.Senators/wealthy businessman,for example would often pay off the debts of other politicians in order to secure their patronage/ votes.We would call that bribery,but in their world,it was common practice. The problem for the person taking bribes was they had been bought and paid for.That meant you were beholden to the person giving you the bribe.The real crime was then betraying that trust.You have accepted a bribe - you honour it.
top effort
I hate Plato and Socrates
Title is misleading, as you started talking about cultural connections between Egypt and Phoenicia, not even answering clearly on question 'was Greece and Egyptian colony?' (it wasn't).
'Thebes' is Greek name. Egyptian names is Uaset. Greeks were the one who called it 'Thebes'. So name came solely from Greece, not Egypt.
great and succint video, thank you. perhaps you could make a mention of the derveni papyrus also?
check out this video: ua-cam.com/video/UmNPmM6C1Sk/v-deo.html for a brief discussion
Great lecture but the music causes anxiety and the camera clicks make me think I’m pressing the camera button on my iPhone
haha
Modern day Corfu - Κέρκυρα
This is too good
I really appreciate your presentations - scholarly and always pushing us into deeper aspects of the classical world view.
Glad you like them!
Most excellent philology and etymology. Thanks so much.
Another great video!
Appreciated!🙏
The TRUTH is this! The Greek civilization is earlier than Egypt's. In the dialogue between Critias and Socrates(Plato) it is mentioned that when the lawgiver and one of the seven sages of antiquity, Solon the Athenian, in 639 to 559 BC visited Egypt, the Egyptian priests told him that in their holy books are recorded, among others, the following: "There were many cataclysms on earth and not one of Deucalion as you (Greeks) mention, and because of these cataclysms certain older civilizations were lost, such as for example the civilization of the Greeks that existed before the cataclysm of Deucalion. The Greeks they do not know this because after the flood those who remained did not know how to write. The Greek civilization is older than the Egyptian, and the Greek, taking into account that which existed before the flood of Deucalion, is 9,000 years old, and the Egyptian a thousand years less years, i.e. 8,000 years. They also say: "You know only one great cataclysm, but before Deucalion there were many other great cataclysms which our ancients recorded." So the priests said to him, there is no reason why I should not do it, Solon, but I will tell you everything, both for your sake and for the sake of your state, but above all for the sake of the goddess who protected, nurtured and educated yours. and then our own place, starting with you a thousand years ago"
The idea of humans coming from the Titans was something I was not aware of in this topic, truly fascinating.
Great video ❤
thank you!
Absolutely one of my favorite myths 🍷
I've missed your content 🧿🧿
Please post stuff related to the origins and developments of Greek drama. Oedipus analysis and themes.
Idea noted
I think there’s still some truth to the general sentiment. Artists may be remarkably adept at communicating their beliefs, but that doesn’t mean an artists’ beliefs are particularly accurate. Just that they’re presented in a remarkably entertaining way.
I've always heard of the labors of Herakes'. You did such a good job of telling about them, I'm going to have to actually read them. Thanks for raising my interest.
Cool thanks mate
In Plato, the Ion and the Phaedrus go in depth as to how divine and beautiful poetry is, and Socrates quotes poetry constantly. This video is misinforming. The expulsion of the poets from the republic is a fairly specific issue and a sacrifice of sorts, it assumes that everything short of philosophy is an inferior form of fulfillment anyways so there is no need of compromises (like poetry) in a controlled setting. The Poets also played a role in the demise of Socrates so it is partly a political issue.
Agree to disagree
My man, the AI art lends a cheap and unserious tone to an otherwise nice video
lol point noted
@@Keimelia haha no worries, man. Tons of cool public domain paintings out there of philosophers too
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For the same reason Israel hates the Islamic world
Plato was a failed playwright. THAT's why he hated poetry--he couldn't do it. Hypocrite. Aristotle, on the other hand, basically laid out almost everything necessary to say about how poetry actually works. He just doesn't sufficiently appreciate "diction" because he's talking only about poetry which emphasizes plot and character, not lyric poetry which emphasizes the texture and rhetorical structure of language. Otherwise you don't need anything more to understand why "poetry is more philosophical than a history of facts."
good points
I am a philosopher and I do not hate poetry. What I hate instead, is pseudo - science. I cannot understand why some people advertise a product as safe and effective and then treat those who criticise it like conspirators who are conspiring against their interests when in reality all they are doing is merely criticising them. Pseudo - science is much, much, much more dangerous than the declining state of contemporary poetry. All you can do about that state, is to improve poetry. There is a ton of philosophers who absolutely love poetry and who are huge admirers of famous and lesser known poets. Back in the day I mistook pseudo - science as some kind of a rebellion and realised later on that the reason people hate it, is because it is standardised. The quest for a standardised mind is over. There is no such thing as a standardised mind and all pseudo - science is based on standardised thinking. The idea of a successfully marketable Trump vaccine that is 110 per cent safe, is not a godsend but a pseudo - science based on nothing but bias. As a philosopher, I would like to see more poets in the world and not just more mathematicians and just more physicists and just more politicians and that´s it - more diversity is needed and ergo new poets are required to create a greater vision of what the 21st century should be like to future generations. Hating poets is like hating moon landing sceptics - it is a futile battle. Thanks for your video!! Best wishes all the way from Reykjavik, Iceland!!
Fascinating! Thanks for taking the time to do this.
Definitely more on Hecate. Why is she associated with dogs? Does she have healing aspects?
This is a very interesting way to think about creative arts, disturbing, but interesting.
Many people starting with Plato's student Aristotle thought he was missing the point badly
Well learning about the concept of Numen here has really made Elden Ring lore even more fun for me now. I love when writers pull from our world to build a fantastical world.