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I don't think this was more effective than a simple overloaded flank. WOWWWSSGG shoot into the side with Glade Guard (G) from the rightmost flank while Orion (O) and the Wardancers (W) hold the left flank, use Stag Knights (S) to charge the rear of the right flank. Where feigned retreat really comes into effect is against the AI by using a single unit to shoot an enemy unit, keeping it so close that the enemy keeps chasing either with a vulnerable unit or their Lord and then you lead them to your entire army to get a free kill, you can do this when the enemy takes a defensive position, once you kill their unit they will often abandon their defensive position allowing you to fight them on your preferred ground as well, real Sun Tzu. You can also split your cavalry splitting the enemy force before converging on an enemy with several cavalry units while leaving the chasing units behind, rinse and repeat. You will never get a human to do something so completely braindead but it would work here. I saw an interesting feigned retreat tactic using spears to support cavalry, you get the opponent to commit their cavalry against yours then your cavalry flees through your spears, wraps around and flanks the enemy cavalry engaged against your spears. Empire Huntsmen do not have 360 firing and aren't super suited for this tactic, I actually don't think melee units are a bad choice for enticing the enemy into this manouvre, especially against humans where you could be a lot more subtle about using your melee infantry in this way. Maybe 2 Treekin on either flank each supported by a hero and 2 Dryads, then 4 Dryads in the centre that give ground and 4 more Dryads behind the Treekin that envelop the enemy after you give ground in the centre. The trouble with this kind of tactic is that you can get enveloped or your line holders can get destroyed. Something to consider with these strategies is what the goal is, because if you have a stack of archers the checkerboard is simple and works, in the same way the overloaded flank usually just works.

Excellent work!

Trying to do this with rattling gunners and the formations get wonky they don't stay in the order of the control click

Great video! This strategy is a personal favorite because of how incredibly effective it is with most of my favorite factions. It's funny that a strategy so risky and difficult in real world history is incredibly easy and effective in the game. It's almost like heving total control of your army allows results historic generals could only have dreamed of!

Wood elves are indeed very well suited for this, being very fast and punchy. A variant I quite like is to move back the center about an AoE's worth, so naturally the enemy will get into a more circular formation, perfect for your wizard. It also allows archers on the side to fire on the side/back of the enemy frontline easily. Best if they can fire while moving so you don't waste firing time when repositioning.

This certainly works well with stalking units like Chameleon Skinks, Nasty Skulkers, Crypt Ghouls etc. I'm looking forward to try this someday...

Nice video! You should try this tactic in a large scale battle with your "ambushing" units being concealed using terrain or the stalk ability so that they can envelop the chasers!

Love this series! Happy to see another video :) Really enjoy the short history lesson in each. Would like to see a full 20v20 army with this tactic!

so good, can you make a longer video about this Tactics ?

I love your videos. Some of my favorite of all of youtube. Your connecting the historical background, the tactics utility, and in-game use. Love you

I wish AI in each faction had some unique tactics currently they are just annoying in the campaign map mostly Skaven to be precise

The most famous users of the feigned retreat was the German army during 2nd world war - thanks to this strategy the Germans dominated first few years of the war. Later Hitler (after problems on the east front) ordered execution of any soldier that retreated (saying "German soldier never retreats!") with a side effect of banning this strategy as well. From that point Germans started to lose almost all their battles, leading to their ultimate defeat.

easily my favorite Warhammer 3 series on UA-cam, great stuff!

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What other historical military tactics would you like to see?

I just tested this formation in Medieval 2 in a battle between HRE and France at medium difficulty on flat terrain but, since it takes a ridiculous amount of turns to unlock gunpowder units, I decided to replace them with Pavise Xbows and Catapults and single entities with heavy cavalry (like Teutonics). I also gave France more heavy horsemen, 6 Xbows (including 3 Aventuriers) and a trebuchet to make it moderately more hard (with units size at max). Result = Crushing victory with 354 losses

said a lot of things and didn't show how to do the damn formation or with which units it's best to do the formation

With kislev I've had a lot of success with a simple __ /*\ __ formation. Where the __ is ice guard, streltsi or kossars and the /\ are armoured kossars. For large Armies, you can make things like. _ /*\ _ ^_^ _ /*\ _ Where the ^^ is artillery and * is heroes.

Is Malleus your surname? Is it of galician origin?

Spot on Magic guide. Thanks for all your hard work....

Bump..... An excellent game play guide. Thanks so much for all your hard work!

Great vid; this is some of the best Total war warhammer content Ive seen!

Got any ideas for what i should do with my Skryre formation? I usually got a warlock engineer, 4 jezzails, 4 ratlings, 2 plagueclaw catapults, 6 skavenslaves, and 3 rat ogres. Cant seem to make good use of it

I see a lot of people commenting on disabling "control large armies" option, but honestly, this option shouldn't even be in game in the first place. It's just a crutch for people with poor PC's and should only be used for that purpose. It trivializes the battles, you otherwise had no chance winning.

Full cavs roster. Hammer & Hammer tactic.

One epic last stand I was ambushed by the skaven with reinforcements. The artillery died quickly but Inwas able to pull cavalry and pistoliers into space. Some scrambled fighting later and I somehow managed to set up a firing squad at one end of the valley and could use the cav and captain to make sure the reinforcements funnelled right into it. It was glorious.

Fight some one with more Leadership. This is a bad example because your vampire lord probably could have killed that army by himself with wind of death. just hide your cav, let them blob and cast. Then mop up with the cav. Not to mention they could not use winds of magic, which is a huge problem, if they had a life wizard healing that lord you would have lost or a death wizard negating your healing.

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i didn't see this get posted earlier but i have questions on your army comp this early in a campaign xD

Right when I try another tactic, hammer and anvil pulls me back in

That one halberd unit that is just doing suicide sprints the whole time lmao... RIP

Love the Warhammer III tactics videos! I find this game tough to play, but your strategy showcases have helped me a lot. Keep 'em coming!

Men At Arms, basically peasants are just overall weak and low morale so it's already a won battle with much superior units, despite being outnumbered. All you really did was just a rear charge attack into a blob of extremely weak and poor morale units with a charging, large unit that are of high quality. A true hammer and anvil technique is a rear attack with multiple flanking units where the blob of enemies are now nearly or fully attacked on all sides. Would have liked to see hammer and anvil technique in a full battle with quality units on both sides...

What seemingly hopeless battles have you ended up winning? What armies were involved and how did you pull off your epic victory?

When utilizing this tactic be sure that the anvil is sturdy to absorb the charge. For your mom's bed was not.

Alexander the Great also has a badass Iron Maiden song about him

I find it quite fitting the addition of the zweihanders to the formation, as it still keeps with the theming. Indeed, zweihanders were developed to help counter enemy pike formations at the same time the Tercio formation was at it's height.

I'm not quite done with the Prologue yet, but I hadn't even thought about the fact that of course rifles don't shoot their missiles in an arc like archers do xD I appreciate the many little ways in which the game(s) choose to make things work logically/believably; there's a level of depth to combat I hadn't expected. Interesting video. I'll have to give these formations a try.

Sheesh i wonder what their wars were like, how they really were in real life. Not that id wanna be there im set where im at here in this timeline 😂 But inagine if they had video recordings back then

I just want to say I'm learning a lot from your videos, I can actually feel my brain getting larger lol. Really appreciate your guide bro❤

Can you please try the eastern steps strategy of retreat and hit. I have been using it quite a lot, retreat the center into ranged units and advance heavy flanks that also retreat eventually to pull units out of formation.

Inknow this video is old however if you make room for crossbow men or archers hell even the cavalry with grenade launchers you could put them in the square so even when you do get surrounded you could still have some range support

Thanks for your guide, very fun to watch, i'm a beginner of Total War and i like play legit with historical formations and such. It will be very helpful to me =)

thanks for the upload sir! what system are you playing on? I was going to say if you are on PC we should play a few matches

thanks for the upload sir! what system do you play on? I was wondering if you'd be interested in doing a few matches with me?

I can play one round and just dominate as assault class. Then play another round with the same set up and have my ass handed to me. I got caught is a barrage of barbed vines, whip tyranids and spore mines. Guy picked me up for me to only make in maybe 10 feet before getting beat down again. I hate barbed vines and struggle with timing to parry whip tyranids.

None of thoses tactics works against nurgle

No wonder I’ve been getting chunked health more, they took away what little I-frame you had with gun strikes. Gun strikes should have i-frames only because it forces you into an animation and you get extra headshot damage making so you can kill things quicker rather than swinging around a wet noodle of a melee weapon with 9 perks. Gun strikes are key in this game just like parrying and dodging.

Great videos, Malleus. Always good to see well-meaning people helping each other out in the Warhammer community.