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Like u people are ignorant about islam? Especially Quran

What about the flying horse?

So what you are saying that only the parts of the Bible that push your agenda were unaltered and everything else that is against your agenda is altered.... Bro how stupid can you be? Please use common sense

if christians supposedly found muhammad in their scriptures, how would we distinguish uncorrupted verses from the corrupted ones? & why would allah direct anyone to a book that contradicts islams core teachings? the Quran answers this question in 5:48 where it claims that the quran is a criterion over it (the it being the gospel), so if you wish to find the uncorrupted verses in the torah or the gospel simply find what the quran says in parallel to what you can find in the gospel of Mark, Matthew, Luke, or John. i also recommend anyone to read 5:45 onward to have a better understanding of what the Quran is talking about when it tells christians to judge by the.gospel.

wouldnt it make more sense to instruct christians to abandon their scriptute in favor of the Quran? no, i dont think it would be. islam teaches that we affirm the torah, psalms, gospel, & the scrolls of Abraham so instructing the people of the book to abandon the scriptures wholesale would contract a major theme within the Quran, loving all of the prophets equally. and yes muhammad SAW was told to consult the jews & Christians. this is a huge evidence for the authenticity of islam and Muhammad's prophethood. why would Muhammad be told to consult the Christians about his revelation if the stories he was reciting to the arabs were informed by the christians? this would be redundant if muhammad was a fraud, the conclusion is that muhammad was getting his revelation by the Divine. this is now the final point. the deilemma. the quran doesnt affirm the bible, it affirms individual books that are not found in the bible but only share the same name and are attributed to the same people. the Quran gives adequate instructions on how to interpret these scriptures using the quran & tells Christians/jews to open up their scripture and compare revelation to come to their own conclusion on the prophethood of Muhammad. the protestant Bible has two cases where muhammad can be seen as foreshadowed. one is the prophet like moses prophecy where moses foretells a prophet who will be like himself. the second is where jesus talks of a man to come who will not speak on their own accord but only by the will of god.

​@@skibidibap4411 You say the Quran refers to only one Gospel and not Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, or the Gnostic texts; So where is this Gospel containing the TRUE teachings of Isa? Doesn't Muslims of today argue that the Gospels of the New Testament is the Injeel, corrupted by Christians, and the St. Paul? Using modern Muslim arguments, the Original Injeel/s are the New Testament Gospels, only corrupted by Christians. How can this be? I thought the Quran promises Isa that His teachings would be preserved and uncorrupted? And how can the word of Allah be corrupted by mere mortals, such as the Apostles and Disciples of the early Christians? Also to affirm which verses are corrupted and not, why would there be a need for affirmation? Isn't the word of Allah (including the Torah and the Injeel) uncorruptible? If the Bible is corrupt, then the Quran is false. And if the Bible is true, then the Quran IS STILL FALSE. Do you not know what Uthman did to all the versions of the Quran? There were so many copies containing different contents, and Uthman picked one, and burned the rest. This is affirmed in the Quran. This is in the MOST AUTHENTIC HADITH (Sahih Al-Bhukari). And regarding the Hadiths, the Hadiths, even the most authenticated ones contradict the Quran, but that's for another long discussion. But if you want to, just tell me and we can discuss this one. Also regarding Muhammad getting revelation from the Divine, I beg to differ. If Muhammad was called to consult with Jews in Christians, then that would mean Allah agrees with Jewish/Christian teachings, but how could that be? Doesn't both Old and New Testament contradict the Quran? If Muhammad is called to go to Jews and Christians, then that means Muhammad and the Quran is false, or atleast corrupt; Because why would he teach something that is far from Jewish and Christian teachings, that could only mean that the Jews, Christians, and Muhammad are all corrupt, OR the Quran and Hadiths containing Muhammad's testimonies, bibliographies, and revelations are CORRUPT. And final point, regarding to your claim that the Quran refers to different books only with the same name and attributed to the same people, where are these books? Has Allah forgotten about them? Or has he let them be corrupted by Christians and Jews alike? Either way, the only conclusion is that Allah is NOT all-powerful, as he could not even fulfill his own promises, to preserve scripture, and to make them uncorruptable. And lastly, your bold claim that Muhammad is fortold by the Prophets and by Jesus, has already been debunked by countless scholars. As the English translation differs highly from Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek textual structure. Not just in Protestant translations, but also in Catholic, and Orthodox Translations. My friend, please come to see my point, not to condemn you for being Muslim, but to help you see to the true Lord of Hosts. You are my brother in Christ, and I shall treat you like so. Peace be with you, may Christ Jesus' peace be with you. Repent for the Kingdom is near, Rejoice for the Good News is here! Anathema, Maranatha.

​@@skibidibap4411You say the Quran refers to only one Gospel and not Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, or the Gnostic texts; So where is this Gospel containing the TRUE teachings of Isa? Doesn't Muslims of today argue that the Gospels of the New Testament is the Injeel, corrupted by Christians, and the St. Paul? Using modern Muslim arguments, the Original Injeel/s are the New Testament Gospels, only corrupted by Christians. How can this be? I thought the Quran promises Isa that His teachings would be preserved and uncorrupted? And how can the word of Allah be corrupted by mere mortals, such as the Apostles and Disciples of the early Christians? Also to affirm which verses are corrupted and not, why would there be a need for affirmation? Isn't the word of Allah (including the Torah and the Injeel) uncorruptible? If the Bible is corrupt, then the Quran is false. And if the Bible is true, then the Quran IS STILL FALSE. Do you not know what Uthman did to all the versions of the Quran? There were so many copies containing different contents, and Uthman picked one, and burned the rest. This is affirmed in the Quran. This is in the MOST AUTHENTIC HADITH (Sahih Al-Bhukari). And regarding the Hadiths, the Hadiths, even the most authenticated ones contradict the Quran, but that's for another long discussion. But if you want to, just tell me and we can discuss this one. Also regarding Muhammad getting revelation from the Divine, I beg to differ. If Muhammad was called to consult with Jews in Christians, then that would mean Allah agrees with Jewish/Christian teachings, but how could that be? Doesn't both Old and New Testament contradict the Quran? If Muhammad is called to go to Jews and Christians, then that means Muhammad and the Quran is false, or atleast corrupt; Because why would he teach something that is far from Jewish and Christian teachings, that could only mean that the Jews, Christians, and Muhammad are all corrupt, OR the Quran and Hadiths containing Muhammad's testimonies, bibliographies, and revelations are CORRUPT. And final point, regarding to your claim that the Quran refers to different books only with the same name and attributed to the same people, where are these books? Has Allah forgotten about them? Or has he let them be corrupted by Christians and Jews alike? Either way, the only conclusion is that Allah is NOT all-powerful, as he could not even fulfill his own promises, to preserve scripture, and to make them uncorruptable. And lastly, your bold claim that Muhammad is fortold by the Prophets and by Jesus, has already been debunked by countless scholars. As the English translation differs highly from Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek textual structure. Not just in Protestant translations, but also in Catholic, and Orthodox Translations. My friend, please come to see my point, not to condemn you for being Muslim, but to help you see to the true Lord of Hosts. You are my brother in Christ, and I shall treat you like so. Peace be with you, may Christ Jesus' peace be with you. Repent for the Kingdom is near, Rejoice for the Good News is here! Anathema, Maranatha.

​​@@skibidibap4411You say the Quran refers to only one Gospel and not Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, or the Gnostic texts; So where is this Gospel containing the TRUE teachings of Isa? Doesn't Muslims of today argue that the Gospels of the New Testament is the Injeel, corrupted by Christians, and the St. Paul? Using modern Muslim arguments, the Original Injeel/s are the New Testament Gospels, only corrupted by Christians. How can this be? I thought the Quran promises Isa that His teachings would be preserved and uncorrupted? And how can the word of Allah be corrupted by mere mortals, such as the Apostles and Disciples of the early Christians? Also to affirm which verses are corrupted and not, why would there be a need for affirmation? Isn't the word of Allah (including the Torah and the Injeel) uncorruptible? If the Bible is corrupt, then the Quran is false. And if the Bible is true, then the Quran IS STILL FALSE. Do you not know what Uthman did to all the versions of the Quran? There were so many copies containing different contents, and Uthman picked one, and burned the rest. This is affirmed in the Quran. This is in the MOST AUTHENTIC HADITH (Sahih Al-Bhukari). And regarding the Hadiths, the Hadiths, even the most authenticated ones contradict the Quran, but that's for another long discussion. But if you want to, just tell me and we can discuss this one. Also regarding Muhammad getting revelation from the Divine, I beg to differ. If Muhammad was called to consult with Jews in Christians, then that would mean Allah agrees with Jewish/Christian teachings, but how could that be? Doesn't both Old and New Testament contradict the Quran? If Muhammad is called to go to Jews and Christians, then that means Muhammad and the Quran is false, or atleast corrupt; Because why would he teach something that is far from Jewish and Christian teachings, that could only mean that the Jews, Christians, and Muhammad are all corrupt, OR the Quran and Hadiths containing Muhammad's testimonies, bibliographies, and revelations are CORRUPT. And final point, regarding to your claim that the Quran refers to different books only with the same name and attributed to the same people, where are these books? Has Allah forgotten about them? Or has he let them be corrupted by Christians and Jews alike? Either way, the only conclusion is that Allah is NOT all-powerful, as he could not even fulfill his own promises, to preserve scripture, and to make them uncorruptable. And lastly, your bold claim that Muhammad is fortold by the Prophets and by Jesus, has already been debunked by countless scholars. As the English translation differs highly from Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek textual structure. Not just in Protestant translations, but also in Catholic, and Orthodox Translations. My friend, please come to see my point, not to condemn you for being Muslim, but to help you see to the true Lord of Hosts. You are my brother in Christ, and I shall treat you like so. Peace be with you, may Christ Jesus' peace be with you. Repent for the Kingdom is near, Rejoice for the Good News is here! Amen! Anathema, Maranatha.

We have manuscripts from before the time of Muhammad, and during the time of Muhammad, that affirms the Bible which we have now. Infact, the Bible was completely canonized nearly 3 centuries before Muhammad was even born. Also, are you saying that Allah's words can be changed, declaring something which Allah said false? Allah contradicted himself when he said his word can't be changed? Furthermore, it's not talking about scripture being corrupted, but rather people who would write something and say it is scripture, then sell it for a price. For example, the people who made the Pseudepigrapha. Christians were dealing with people writing books and declaring them yet the canonical scripture hasn't been distorted.

@koderamerikaner5147 That is not this video's argument, and using history to prove Islam is false isn't a smart idea, imagine somone uses science to prove Jesus can't be born from a Virgin, Same thing I said the torah and the gospel can be changed, read the rset of my comment The gospel wasn't fully corrupted. There were descriptions of the prophet there, and even tho we don't have it now, there are common things between the gospel and the quran, so it's not fully corrupted I don't know what's the point of your last argument, but the pseudepigrapha during the 2 and the 3 century, which is the time when the Bible didn't even exist so in what scale did they use to prove it has historical errors

@dioda2989 The Islamic Dilemma is that though. It's that the Quran affirms the previous scripture, and we have scripture from the time of Muhammad and before him, so the Quran must be affirming the same scripture we have now, as it affirms the scripture from Muhammad's time. The Bible wasn't canonized until the 300s, but all the books of the New Testament were written within the 1st Century and were constantly reaffirmed. The pseudepigrapha comes long after Christ, and unlike the New Testament, has historical and textual contradictions. You made a false equivalency. The Quran directly mentions the scripture and affirms it. We know that Jesus's conception defies conventional science because it's supernatural and scripture affirms it. The point is, your direct word of Allah (the Quran) can't be wrong if it's the actual word of God, and so it affirming the scriptures can't be wrong. We use history to determine not that there was no scripture, which is the parallel you drew, but rather we determined what the scripture specifically is; Thus, you made a false equivalency. To use your example, it would be like arguing what the nature of Mary's virginity is, rather than arguing she wasn't.

@koderamerikaner5147 don't know about the books you say they are from the time of the prophet, but during the time of the prophet, no one claimed these claim, even the romans and same thing about the jews and if I learned something from the biography of the prophet is that these jews wouldn't let something like that slide so it's either your sources or mine are wrong , I think I don't have to tell which one I will choose 🤷‍♂️ why ? Simply because they are the true Muslims who followed the prophet to the letter, unlike Christians back in that time like the romans who did the exact opposite of what Jesus thought, so the Islamic sources are more trustworthy . I think I will have to stop right here because I am not into Christian history . How did you have the books of the New Testament but not the Bible it self aren't they the same ? In surah 5 47 "So let the people..." When Allah says, "Let," you can understand that he is taking to someone, specifically , who could be this one be ? Right, the prophet ,but wait a minute, the prophet is dead, so how could he ask you questions while he is dead? Exactly that was during his lifetime, So yes, Allah's talks specifically about Christians back then, Finally, I don't think I said there were no scriptures, but looks like you don't see other Christians' arguments. It's basically "The quran says A and history says B so the quran I'd falls " and it seemed to me you are no different

Neither does allah

I'll reply to u. Tell me wut is ur point, but after i reply to u, u will accept islam or at least accept that u people and ur "david wood" was lying.

@@NameLess-sw4yi debunking the Islamic Dilemma wont make any mentally stable person convert but indeed i will stop using it if you debunk it

@@NameLess-sw4yi my point is simple. Quran says the Gospel and Torah is the word of God, it also says that the word of God cannot be changed. the Quran tells the people of the Gospel to judge by what Allah has revealed in it, when Mohammed was in doubt of the revelation, Allah told him to consult with the people of the book to confirm the revelation. These verses suggest the preservation of the Gospel. So if the Quran is right and the Bible has been preserved then Islam is false since it goes against the core teachings of Islam. If the Quran is wrong and the Bible has been corrupted then Islam is false since it affirms these scriptures

Wrong, if your interpretation of the Bible seems wrong to you, then you need to look at the Bible from a different perspective. The Bible is the word of God, so try and understand what the Bible is trying to tell. (It's a story about the savior of humanity, Jesus)

Shalom so You would agree this is Your opinion, Your interpretation and not rooted in fact based on the Bible. Why do I say this , to many verses in the Torah , Ketuvim and Nevi'im foretells the arrival of the Messiah Jesus. I quote your comment ''. All the places where Christians read in references to him are mistakes and imposition'' Your opinion as hundreds of Scholars both Jew and Christian would disagree with You. Below are 47 47 Old Testament Verses About Jesus as Messiah , I challenge You to read each one and then methodically refute each. I will give You a month and You can revert. Prophecies of Jesus Old Testament Scripture New Testament Fulfillment 1 Messiah would be born of a woman. Genesis 3:15 Matthew 1:20 Galatians 4:4 2 Messiah would be born in Bethlehem. Micah 5:2 Matthew 2:1 Luke 2:4-6 3 Messiah would be born of a virgin. Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:22-23 Luke 1:26-31 4 Messiah would come from the line of Abraham. Genesis 12:3 Genesis 22:18 Matthew 1:1 Romans 9:5 5 Messiah would be a descendant of Isaac. Genesis 17:19 Genesis 21:12 Luke 3:34 6 Messiah would be a descendant of Jacob. Numbers 24:17 Matthew 1:2 7 Messiah would come from the tribe of Judah. Genesis 49:10 Luke 3:33 Hebrews 7:14 8 Messiah would be heir to King David's throne. 2 Samuel 7:12-13 Isaiah 9:7 Luke 1:32-33 Romans 1:3 9 Messiah's throne will be anointed and eternal. Psalm 45:6-7 Daniel 2:44 Luke 1:33 Hebrews 1:8-12 10 Messiah would be called Immanuel. Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:23 11 Messiah would spend a season in Egypt. Hosea 11:1 Matthew 2:14-15 12 A massacre of children would happen at Messiah's birthplace. Jeremiah 31:15 Matthew 2:16-18 13 A messenger would prepare the way for Messiah. Isaiah 40:3-5 Luke 3:3-6 14 Messiah would be preceded by a forerunner. Malachi 3:1 Matthew 11:10 15 Messiah would be rejected by his own people. Psalm 69:8 Isaiah 53:3 John 1:11 John 7:5 16 Messiah would be a prophet. Deuteronomy 18:15 Acts 3:20-22 17 Messiah would be preceded by Elijah. Malachi 4:5-6 Matthew 11:13-14 18 Messiah would be declared the Son of God. Psalm 2:7 Matthew 3:16-17 19 Messiah would be called a Nazarene. Isaiah 11:1 Matthew 2:23 20 Messiah would bring light to Galilee. Isaiah 9:1-2 Matthew 4:13-16 21 Messiah would speak in parables. Psalm 78:2-4 Isaiah 6:9-10 Matthew 13:10-15, 34-35 22 Messiah would be sent to heal the brokenhearted. Isaiah 61:1-2 Luke 4:18-19 23 Messiah would be a priest after the order of Melchizedek. Psalm 110:4 Hebrews 5:5-6 24 Messiah would be called King. Psalm 2:6 Zechariah 9:9 Matthew 27:37 Mark 11:7-11 25 Messiah would enter Jerusalem on a donkey. Zechariah 11:12 Matthew 21:4-5 26 Messiah would be praised by little children. Psalm 8:2 Matthew 21:16 27 Messiah would be betrayed. Psalm 41:9 Zechariah 11:12-13 Luke 22:47-48 Matthew 26:14-16 28 Messiah's price money would be used to buy a potter's field. Zechariah 11:12-13 Matthew 27:9-10 29 Messiah would be falsely accused. Psalm 35:11 Mark 14:57-58 30 Messiah would be silent before his accusers. Isaiah 53:7 Mark 15:4-5 31 Messiah would be spat upon and struck. Isaiah 50:6 Matthew 26:67 32 Messiah would be hated without cause. Psalm 35:19 Psalm 69:4 John 15:24-25 33 Messiah would be crucified with criminals. Isaiah 53:12 Matthew 27:38 Mark 15:27-28 34 Messiah would be given vinegar to drink. Psalm 69:21 Matthew 27:34 John 19:28-30 35 Messiah's hands and feet would be pierced. Psalm 22:16 Zechariah 12:10 John 20:25-27 36 Messiah would be mocked and ridiculed. Psalm 22:7-8 Luke 23:35 37 Soldiers would gamble for Messiah's garments. Psalm 22:18 Luke 23:34 Matthew 27:35-36 38 Messiah's bones would not be broken. Exodus 12:46 Psalm 34:20 John 19:33-36 39 Messiah would be forsaken by God. Psalm 22:1 Matthew 27:46 40 Messiah would pray for his enemies. Psalm 109:4 Luke 23:34 41 Soldiers would pierce Messiah's side. Zechariah 12:10 John 19:34 42 Messiah would be buried with the rich. Isaiah 53:9 Matthew 27:57-60 43 Messiah would resurrect from the dead. Psalm 16:10 Psalm 49:15 Matthew 28:2-7 Acts 2:22-32 44 Messiah would ascend to heaven. Psalm 24:7-10 Mark 16:19 Luke 24:51 45 Messiah would be seated at God's right hand. Psalm 68:18 Psalm 110:1 Mark 16:19 Matthew 22:44 46 Messiah would be a sacrifice for sin. Isaiah 53:5-12 Romans 5:6-8 47 Messiah would return a second time. Daniel 7:13-14 Revelation 19

Your people helped Mohamed somehow in founding Islam

@@SamsonZionist Isaiah 9:6 Talks of a son being born, and called god

@@SamsonZionist Wow, that's quite a homework assignment. And I didn't even sign up for your course!...But I'll make a deal with you: I'll allow you to name what you consider to be the Top Five pieces of evidence for Jesus among the 47 you copied. If I can reasonably argue that those five aren't valid Christological references, then presumably I could do so with the rest. I think that's a pretty generous offer on my part. A lot of them are extremely weak anyway, and I'll give you a free example right now: Number 10 states that you think Jesus was the messiah because you believe Isaiah indicates that the messiah will be named "Immanuel." Well, Isaiah isn't talking there about the messiah, but even if he were, Jesus-obviously-wasn't named Immanuel. And Matt 1:23 doesn't even claim that Jesus was named Immanuel; he writes in verse 21 that the child will be called Jesus, and then quotes Isaiah 7:14 that the child will be named Immanuel.

That is true that is why we have the full Bible, Shalom

You can throw out the old one and only read the new one and you will still understand what Jesus wanted.