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I’ve driven buses along Parramatta road at all times and in all wether conditions and believe me it is a congested traffic sewer. Anything to improve the travel environment and amenities in this area has to be a plus. One thing that saddens me is why the ( L4 ) line wasn’t extended from the Carlingford terminus through to Epping and even MacQuarie Park. The biggest downside to the Carlingford rail line was it not serving any areas it was desperately needed. Passenger numbers were alway scant due to the gruelling change of trains at Clyde and its low catchment through Dundas and Carlingford. As we know, the original proposal to extend the line through to Epping was cancelled and in my opinion a vital opportunity to make this new light rail line extremely relevant to future population growth has been missed by not extending it through to Epping/MacQuarie Park. I live in the Ryde area and the high rise developments going on in the MacQuarie area are astonishing. True, the Metro extension to Sydenham will prove itself undoubtedly, but the growth of multi story residential going on now between Carlingford and MacQuarie Park will have only the present bus network to serve it, which by its nature will be unreliable due to the ever increasing traffic problems on the Pennant Hills, Carlingford Road and Epping Road corridors.

The line’s crowning feature was the section between King Max Street and Balmoral Beach. I’ve visited the large cutting not far from the terminus. Truly amazing.

I believe I have seen an early track diagram for Rockdale railway station where the tramway had access to the Illawarra Line directlty from Terminus Street running straight ahead (not by a tangent track) and crossing the down main line at right angles then on to a small turntable on a siding which ran between the two main running lines. I believe this was during the time of steam trams as these tram locomotives were serviced at the Everleigh locomotive depot. I believe the Arncliffe tram also had access to the Illawarra Line so that its steam trams could proceed to Everleigh for servicing.

You may of mentioned it as you did re the Cable car system in Dunedin. The Cable Car is still running from Lambton Quay to Kelburn in Wellington.

How about the Eastern Suburbs lines?

11:02 - but some of them were sold as sheds on private properties

Awesome ❤❤❤

I hope these lines get built very soon

Sir Joh ripping out the train lines in the 1980s led to them costing hundreds of millions of dollars to replace 40 years down the line. They can run trams without having the wires now.

Great video. i was in Tasmania at the start of the year and was very interested in the former trams. The Tasmanian Transport Museum has lots to see. The Launceston Tramway Museum is excellent and definitely worth a visit.

What great tram lines these could have been if they were not closed.but the damm stupid pollies got rid of them.sure how to wipe out transport history.damm you,labour goverment at the time.great video anyway.

Just shows you how much of our transport has been destroyed by our damm goverments over the years.damm them for getting rid of sydneys tramways.how bloody stupid that was.so much history has gone forever.bring back the watson bay trams.this line should have been saved.what a great tourist tram line it could have been.great video.

All we have is boring 🚌 diesel and battery life big deal 😢😮😅

Danke für Dein interessantes Video. Als kleine Erinnerung bleibt wohl nur ein Modell des Triebwagens. Gruß aus Süden von Deutschland.

If I were to extend the L3 line . I would extend it along via the tram reservation in middle of Anzac Pde as far as Fitzgerald Ave urn left on to Fitzgerald Ave along the the southern nature strip to Maroubra Beach & then left onto Marine Pdeas far the Surf Lifesaving Club.

thre is a big difference between light rail and a tram

A selection of points: - A problem with light rail, especially when built on-street, it that its construction is often disruptive to businesses in that location for extended periods, without reimbursement. It will ultimately help most businesses along the route, but for a small business it can be too long to survive. - Light rail often involves extra costs generated by 'discovering' unanticipated pipelines, gas and electricity lines and communications cables while excavating the surface for tracks. This can be a significant problem in older areas where such infrastructure may even not be on any maps or diagrams. It's less of an issue where an existing right of way can be used, or in 'greenfield' areas. - So, because of the above (and other reasons), I suggest also give consideration to alternatives to modern low-floor light rail (like L1 to L4) - such as stadtbahn (city trains) and light metro. The Canadian vlogger RM Transit has good clips on both, and describes them far more lucidly than I ever could. - Hardly anyone seems to have noticed, but Greater Sydney is soon to get its first 'light metro' in the form of the WSI Airport Metro. It will be operating in quite a different environment than the other two metros. It is at the premium end of the concept, using 3 cars expandable to 4, driverless, running at grade / elevated / underground where appropriate, with a high passenger capacity, and the ability to surge to meet sudden demands within minutes. It's well suited for being a major Western N-S transport spine. - Other examples of light metros are things like the London DLR and Vancouver SkyTrain. At the other end of the scale are the small 'people-movers' such as used to transfer passengers (who have already been security checked) to and from distant terminals at major airports. The Miami Metro is an attempt to apply an elevated people mover system to provide transport within a city (though arguably not as successfully as the Gold Coast G-Link has done using light rail). - City trains can be used as a cheaper method for moving people mainly along dedicated tracks, but extending to on street running when needed. They sometimes take advantage of existing rights of way, (like up the grassed median or along the verge of existing major roads, or along power or canal easements, etc). They may also run fast on straight stretches, then slow right down to make tight turns or climb overpasses to negotiate 'urban obstacles' judged too expensive to remove. Examples of such systems are Hanover Stadtbahn, and Dallas and Denver airport links. - Western Sydney has places where light rail might work for local transport, but maybe not just yet. Penrith, Blacktown, Liverpool and Camden/Campbelltown all each have populations just over 200,000, That probably means each of their centres is still below the population density threshold for light rail right now, unless something else is creating demand. - Penrith, for example, has a set of sports venues, adventure attractions, entertainment / eat streets, shopping centres, rail stations, a major hospital and a university, all within the sort of distance that make sense for light rail. It would also help it further develop both a 'day' and 'night' economy, and make it a 'go to' place to commute to celebrate an event, run a conference, indulge in an afternoon game or adventure, or for an enjoyable evening out. Those attractions plus an ability to trundle easily between all of them, along with a suitable marketable image, could well make Penrith the dominant beneficiary of the close proximity of WSI. Plus Penrith is 'core west', and Westies are really good at making all that sort of stuff happen. - Not as sure whether the other centres (Blacktown, Liverpool / Fairfield, Camden / Campbelltown) are in quite as potentially good a position. Liverpool is in with a chance, but as a local government area, rather than a city CBD. The Airport and Bradfield are contained within its area. Liverpool will always be a bigger than Bradfield, with more affordable housing for rank and file airport workers, and with the M7 and the Moorebank Logistics Depot in its patch, it might do fine. - St Marys might also do well, say if it positions itself as a 'one short ride', well connected, affordable tourist and business traveller accommodation centre ('Stay in the West, and train it to the rest!). - I would disagree with using light rail to connect western city centres. They're just a bit too far apart, and LR is just a bit too slow, for that. For example, Penrith and Blacktown share an existing rail corridor, and improving it (e.g. quad the tracks west of St Marys, improve signalling, and run freight traffic on dedicated lines), would probably result in a much better solution. Generally, light rail should be limited to providing a set of trips that you could conceivably walk, but which are made a lot easier by getting the tram. - I certainly would also advocate more frequent bus services, longer hours of operating, and bus priority / stops to provide a more effective 'last mile' component of public transport; and for longer and lighter routes, such as airport buses between Liverpool et al and WSI.

My man you should upload a full comprehensive video proposal for Light rail lines in Sydney like what Building Beautifully did with the metro. I would love to see where you think areas of Sydney could do with a light rail line, I would love to watch that, even if it is totally unrealistic and unlikely to happen.

What's the topography issue with the eastern transit corridor reserved for the Green Square line? I don't think the short L1 trams would be suitable for servicing high density Green Square unless frequency is increased significantly. The L1 can get very crowded at times and even full since it is so short.

i worked on the light rail and the original plan was from the now terminus at POW hospital it would continue up to bondi junction and meet with the train line. The randwick line was also meant to go to maroubra junction. both were cut due to opposition from residents and cost blowouts.

The worst part of ANY engineering to metro/light rail is the amount of time they take to build it ... For 40 years we stopped building transport in Sydney and concentrated on road systems that will NEVER be big enough.... Wish government would just bite the bullet and build it ... 🙏 FAST!!!

if we're dreaming, a rail along the northern beaches replacing the b line service?

I think with the coogee beach idea, rather then the typical all the way two track layout, could maybe be bettet just having it be single track and then double at the terminus as not long from Randwick plus Randwick is already a major tram destination so theres that

Mmm, Parra to Redbank & Parra to Castle Hill are 2 tramways. Still watching for the 3rd ...

Hi Marty, thanks for another great video. The only problem with a new line to Bondi is that the original cutting is no longer available. It is a pity they didn't keep that reservation area. It would be great if all these lines could become a reality. If they decide to run the light rail back to Darling Street Wharf, they may need to get the counterweight back. Bringing light rail along Elizabeth would be excellent and would pass Museum and St James stations, as the trams used to do in the old days. They could also extend the light rail to La Perouse, reusing the reservation there. Incidentally, what about taking back the two road lanes on the east side of the Sydney Harbour Bridge, converting it to light rail, running from North Sydney through to Wynyard station platforms 1 and 2? This should ease road traffic on the Harbour Bridge. At the tunnel end, they only need to turn the Cahill Expressway exit slightly to allow the tram tunnel to be accessed again. Road traffic shouldn't suffer too much, especially when they now have the Harbour Road Tunnel as an alternative way across. Anyway, that is just my idea. Take care and all the very best. Rob in Melbourne Australia.

Awesome video thank you mate

All Sydney beaches are completely clogged with horrible vehicular traffic. Going to Sydney beaches is actually quite a stressful experience because of all the aggressive and impatient car drivers who are frustrated because they can’t find somewhere to park their 2 tonne metal/plastic box on 4 wheels.

I like that the Elizabeth Street proposal creates a city Circle loop but for trams

Last time I was in Syney, there was only 1 line. And now, he put's it on almost every street, lol!

This video is an utter travesty! The channel host does not outline the essential need to revive the former Watsons Bay line through Double Bay, Point Piper, Rose Bay Vaucluse before terminate at its namesake. The good people from this hardworking and maligned district are not well served with public transport at all. The ferry routes are just not enough. The revived tram line ought to be called the Silver Spoon Line. Marty, do not forget to vote for your Liberal candidate on Saturday’s local government election. In the meantime, a video about the future commercial prospects of Luna Park is well worth your time. Spoiler alert: the historic and obsolete Milsons Point amusement park is probably not financially viable. There is no comparison to the Gold Coast whatsoever. ua-cam.com/video/1RITpg2hb-g/v-deo.htmlsi=bnq3f_liuK3A1TRA

Great EP

Light Rail is absolutely the best transport solution for cities. How stupid the NSW government was in the mid-twentieth century to get rid of them! It's good to seet good to see that a new generation is seriously looking at giving Sydney a tram network again.

When will we get a rail line to Sydney's northern beaches "NEVER" 😡😠🤬thanks Marty.🍺

Extend the T4 train line to Bondi Beach....not light rail down the constantly congested Bondi Road.

Good spot re the the Elizabeth Street link. George street is great - but slow. Any serious expanson of light rail in the east of Sydney needs a faster, higher capacity connection between Central and the Quay. This is the big flaw in the ALTRAC L5 proposal.

Agree that the Balmain line would be great as a small tram semi-historic line but probably not feasible in the context of 'modern light rail' practice. Another great nostalgic line would be the old tram route through backstreet Paddington (389 bus route)

It would be lovely to see a Mona Vale to Manly tram line.

A team connecting Central and Bondi Beach going down Oxford St would be great but after they've added such wide bicycle lanes all along Oxford St I worry that it won't be practical to build light rail down Oxford St as there won't be enough space. At least there should be a tram line from Bondi Junction to Bondi Beach

Would be very interested to see Light Rail proposals for northern Sydney as well as the east and west of the CBD. Along the Pacific Highway through the lower North Shore to Chatswood, Willoughby and maybe beyond to Roseville or further. Even if it's a major hypothetical I'd be keen to hear some ideas how it could all work.

Crazy thought -have a small fleet of steam trams built for a "high days and holidays" tourist service on the Bondi line.....

Lots of proposals for extensions to L3 focus on the old Anzac Pde tramway... this misses the point of the enormous development at Eastgardens. So maybe Bunnerong Rd would be better or extend to Maroubra J and then across to Eastgardens.

There were a whole bunch of proposals branching out of Parramatta. This includes lines to Castle Hill, Macquarie Park, and Bankstown. Those were rejected leaving the 2 stages of the PLR.

lightrail to manly beach. There is bus car or ferry to manly .

Crows Nest to Balmoral and then across The Spit and all the way to Newport. Or a metro tunnel to the Northern Beaches. The Woy Woy to Palm Beach Ferry is quicker than the M1, so that's an option for commuting from Central Coast as well.

I actually have the thought that the light rail to Strathfield could go to Homebush, and Parramatta Stage 2 goes to Homebush instead of Lidcombe. So the system can connect there instead.

Some very interesting proposals. However, the most beneficial ones, in my opinion, are the "L6" Parramatta Road Line from Summer Hill to Green Square and the Eastern Suburbs Line from Central to Bondi. Other proposals that I'd think would be beneficial would be Light Rail Line extensions from Carlingford to Epping, Juniors Kingsford to La Perouse, Randwick to Coogee and a Light Rail line from Parramatta to Macquarie Centre/University (which is a line that the UA-cam channel Building Beautifully conceived in an attempt to close the public transport gap between Epping/Macquarie Park and Parramtta.)

how about a lightrail to the northern beaches as the B-line is at capacity :)

Sydney had an enormous tram network, one of the largest, if not the largest in the world, in the first half of the last century. Newcastle also had an extensive tram network back then. Now that the government is returning trams to Sydney, it would be logical to be doing the same in Newcastle. Trouble is that Newcastle always misses out as being "regional" when metropolitan planning is done. But it also gets labelled as "metropolitan" when funds are allocated for regional planning. Go figure! So I won't be holding my breath waiting for the government to allocate any meaningful planning resources to Newcastle for a rebuild of that city's tram/light rail network.

This just hurts me cus I know none of this is happening

I'd like to see some options return to the Northern Beaches. A LR line between Palm Beach and Manly Ferry would be amazing