I would, those Yamaha dzr10’s have more power than my 15” Mackie thumps, so I’m going to change them. I also thought of the 12” dzr, but thought of the Mackie V-Class 12” as well. But I need a compact system the has power.
@@DJBennyswift Try the Mackie DLM12 i have them for 8 years already and no complain what so ever and they are small, crazy powerful and light weight they are a little bit more expansive then the srm212 V class (about $999) but it's worth those extra $$$.
If the 12” DZR are anything like these then I can fully support them! The NX932s look and I imagine sound great too! Its always just the lack our input/outputs and DSP which lets RCF down a bit!
I'm using RCF 705-II with mine, which is excellent and has more than enough bass for our usage. They are super lightweight and compact, but they project backwards quite a bit and have no Dante; if you're using that, then I guess the logical choice is the 12” or 15” Yamaha subs. These are great and super loud for their size, but they are pretty heavy; I think the 12” sub is 6kg heavier than the 15” RCF sub I use! If that isn't an issue, I would lean towards the Yamaha! I kind of wish I had got them now, in retrospect, but my back is thanking me!
I'm not entirely sure, but the wattage and DB rating mean fairly little, and I would focus more on the frequency graph. I can only imagine that the 12” and 15” versions are louder than the 10”. This can be seen in the amount of each frequency they can effectively produce.
I have never struggled to get enough mids from these boxes! The clarity is something else that may explain why this isn't an issue. As for the low end, we have to be realistic in that they are 10" boxes. They are made to be coupled with a sub, which means they are going to be high-passed at the least 80hz. I think the 12" and 15" would deliver more than enough if you are happy to carry them and don't want to run a sub.
Hello, how do you use Yamaha Dzr 10 with a subs or just one sub. Do you use hpf filter on Dzr 10 and how much hpf frequency do you use... Thanks and Best Regards
It depends on the room, I would say about 80% of the time it's just the one sub (most venues are quite small here) and then with two subs at marquees and larger venues. Again the hpf depends on how much I need to put through the sub, it is generally either 80hz or 120hz.
Hello, so you set this settings on Dzr 10. You engage for instance hpf at 80hz on Dzr 10 if it's one or two subs. Thanks for your kindness and Best Regards
It really depends on the room! I would always stay above 80hz, though, and that is generally my go-to crossover point for these. If they need a bit more help, I would lift the crossover to take some weight off the tops! I find they can handle 80hz with no sweat!
I’m a DJ and a friend of mine bought these 10” ones and tells me that I need to get these due to the power and how clear they sound. I have the Mackie Thumps 215xt with the 15” subwoofer and they have a nice sound, but I have to upgrade due to needing something compact and also powerful. I wanted to get the Rcf, qsc, or the Mackie srm V-Class. But my friend that I need these Yamaha dzr 10’s. So now I’m searching for more info about them and reviews. Thank you for this video.
Yeah, I run the DJ through these between sets, and I can totally see why DJs would love them! They're super compact and loud, and like your friend said, the clarity at high volumes is just mad, too! I would definitely grab these over the Mackies or QSC (although I love their desks, I find the speakers hard on the ears). The RCF NX speakers look great, but I haven't managed to hear any yet!
I’m really looking forward to upgrade to these! The price point is pretty up there, but I need to make the move. Also, the reason I’m looking into the 10” is due to my vehicle size, I have a 2020 Kia Soul which is limited in space so these will fit perfectly in my car, and I was thinking on getting two QSC 12” subwoofers. I know it’s two different brands but I’m not familiar with the Yamaha subwoofers, plus I like how the design of the QSC 12” sub is narrow. Do you have a suggestion that I may not know of?
@DJBennyswift you wont be disappointed! These are great! The Yamaha subs are awesome but they are quite heavy! I use the RCF 705 which are super light and quite compact! I've fit 2 subs and 2 tops in a Nissan Juke! Was a bit of a squeeze but they went in!
@@GaryOnBass that sounds great, I also have my other gear and facade which playing Tetris as a kid helped me fit my 15” mains, 15” sub, stands, controller, cable bags in the car with a tight squeeze. I’m going to look into that Rcf subwoofer to get dimensions, watts, SPL, and price point.
how would you rate the DZR10 vs. Seeburg Acoustic or KS Audio 10" active speakers, if you've had the pleasure of using/hearing any of their comparable offerings? in other words, is their sound quality worth the extra cost?
Unfortunately, I haven't heard about the Seeburg or KS 10" boxes or anything they do as an active unit, so I can't add anything here! The Yamaha speakers are great, though. They were designed by Nexo (a comparable pro company) and come with an outstanding Yamaha warranty-that's what tipped me into buying them!
You think DZR12 (no sub) can replace/pass for a Hi-Fi 12” system for home-use? Clarity and detail wise. Wondering if they could be a nice, cheaper alternative to expensive HiFi speakers like JBL L100, Klipsch Forte/Cornwall, etc. Any hiss, noise, hum while turned On at idle w/ no music playing? Edit: Ah, I see you have studio monitors in the back! I use HS8 for music-listening (but wanna upgrade to 12” speakers)… wondering if the DZR are as clear, clean, flat, accurate, neutral sounding as your studio monitors.
There is a massive amount of clarity in these speakers and I haven't noticed any hiss or hum, even at very high volumes. If I were to use a PA speaker for hi-fi I think this would be my pick, they are probably the most neutral spunding PA speaker out there! But they are really difficult to compare to my Adam audio monitors in the back, which actually make great hi-fi speakers! The reason for this is that they are built to be VERY loud! Your talking about 10x the output of some of those hi-fi speakers you mentioned! I'm not sure how they would sound at lower volumes as you will never be pushing the speakers to the point where they are designed to be used. So overall, I'm not sure! They would probably be my pick if I were to do that, but I'm not sure how comparable they would be to a speaker which is specifically made for that purpose! I'm sure they would sound great though and you would never have issues about not having enough volume! Haha
@@GaryOnBass Thanks for the detailed reply! Nice to hear they don't have any hiss/hum/noise! I may have to give them a try, hehe (I could never afford super expensive HiFi speakers nor amps anyways) And volume/power never hurts... esp when it's needed for parties, haha. Just as long as the sound quality is clear, neutral and nice. :D
@LessTalkMoreDelicious they would definitely be great for parties! I think they could definitely work! They also do a passive version, the CZR12 but I would most likely get the active ones! Keep me updated on how they do! I would be really interested to hear your experience!
I have 2 DZR12s, there is a soft background hiss when in a quiet room. These things are designed to be high DB output boxes so I imagine the output stage is pretty hot. But I have no complaints using them in a quiet dinner setting for background music and lounge music.
I have a pair of Adam T8V lus the Adam 10 inch sub (T10) in the livingroom and I am very happy with them. At the basement I have a LD Systems Curv 500 with two more satelites (2 + 2 satelites and the sub) for movies and music. Superb sound. Upstairs I have two EV ZLX 12P BT plus an Alto TS 12S sub for movies and music and I take them to parties from time to time. They sit in a large livingroom, arround 60 m². Very, very happy with the sound but they have a buzzing sound when not in use. I'm looking to upgrade the EV ZLX to probably these or EV ETX 10P
Haha, I worried about the same thing! We are a three to six-piece wedding band that runs everything directly through the PA, and we do 90 weddings a year, ranging from 100 to 300 people. These really have been great! I have only seen the limiter twice, and we play with one of the loudest drummers I know! You're not running festivals with these playing to thousands, but I would be hiring a crew and a PA I wouldn't want to carry myself for that! If you're a gigging musician, they will do the job and surprise you! I ran EV 15" tops and 18" subs before these, which can't touch this rig in terms of volume or sound quality!
@@GaryOnBass sounds nice, have you looked into the seeburg k20 dp? double 10 inch in a small form factor. they sound superb. i use the passive version.
Yeah, the Seaburg stuff has always been great! One of my friends had a big passive set, which I loved, but I couldn't handle the weight now! I like the look of their array systems, but they are rare to hear in the UK! These Yamahas are designed by NEXO, and you can see the pro audio background coming into play!
You might be surprised at just how loud and also how clear these things are when HPF over a sub. I also use Yamaha DSR115, RCF 932 and RCF NX945 and my DZR 10's can keep up with any of them if they are used over a decent sub!
Would you think about swapping your 12" or 15" tops for 10" tops? Let me know below!
I would, those Yamaha dzr10’s have more power than my 15” Mackie thumps, so I’m going to change them. I also thought of the 12” dzr, but thought of the Mackie V-Class 12” as well. But I need a compact system the has power.
Dzr 12 the best in class with jbl 812p & etx 12
@@DJBennyswift take dzr 12 with two subs 15 - nuq 15 turbo sound & rcf 905 mk3 - this setup can take 150 pepole very easy .
@@DJBennyswift Try the Mackie DLM12 i have them for 8 years already and no complain what so ever and they are small, crazy powerful and light weight they are a little bit more expansive then the srm212 V class (about $999) but it's worth those extra $$$.
@@giancarlohernandez1967I never knew they existed, I was looking at it but still in decision mode, really nice though thanks!
What about the 12” DZRs? What about these bad boys in comparison to the new RCF ART 932s? That’s something I’d be interested to see😎
If the 12” DZR are anything like these then I can fully support them! The NX932s look and I imagine sound great too! Its always just the lack our input/outputs and DSP which lets RCF down a bit!
I have the 12s, had no issues with them, absolute work horses!
I feel like I should have gone with the 12s!
I have 2 Yamaha DZR10-D and I’m looking for a good sub to use with them. Any sugestion?
I'm using RCF 705-II with mine, which is excellent and has more than enough bass for our usage. They are super lightweight and compact, but they project backwards quite a bit and have no Dante; if you're using that, then I guess the logical choice is the 12” or 15” Yamaha subs. These are great and super loud for their size, but they are pretty heavy; I think the 12” sub is 6kg heavier than the 15” RCF sub I use! If that isn't an issue, I would lean towards the Yamaha! I kind of wish I had got them now, in retrospect, but my back is thanking me!
Does anyone know why the 12 and 15 inch versions have significantly lower RMS ratings?
I'm not entirely sure, but the wattage and DB rating mean fairly little, and I would focus more on the frequency graph. I can only imagine that the 12” and 15” versions are louder than the 10”. This can be seen in the amount of each frequency they can effectively produce.
bummer that midrange dip and that they don’t extend to 40 hz even.
I have never struggled to get enough mids from these boxes! The clarity is something else that may explain why this isn't an issue. As for the low end, we have to be realistic in that they are 10" boxes. They are made to be coupled with a sub, which means they are going to be high-passed at the least 80hz. I think the 12" and 15" would deliver more than enough if you are happy to carry them and don't want to run a sub.
Hello, how do you use Yamaha Dzr 10 with a subs or just one sub. Do you use hpf filter on Dzr 10 and how much hpf frequency do you use... Thanks and Best Regards
It depends on the room, I would say about 80% of the time it's just the one sub (most venues are quite small here) and then with two subs at marquees and larger venues. Again the hpf depends on how much I need to put through the sub, it is generally either 80hz or 120hz.
Hello, so you set this settings on Dzr 10. You engage for instance hpf at 80hz on Dzr 10 if it's one or two subs. Thanks for your kindness and Best Regards
It really depends on the room! I would always stay above 80hz, though, and that is generally my go-to crossover point for these. If they need a bit more help, I would lift the crossover to take some weight off the tops! I find they can handle 80hz with no sweat!
I get... So you engage the hpf on Dzr not on subs. Thanks
I have 2 DZR10 and 2 DXS 15,sound very good, loud and clear, super compact,,, love it... Regards from Indonesia
That does seem like a killer combo!
I’m a DJ and a friend of mine bought these 10” ones and tells me that I need to get these due to the power and how clear they sound. I have the Mackie Thumps 215xt with the 15” subwoofer and they have a nice sound, but I have to upgrade due to needing something compact and also powerful. I wanted to get the Rcf, qsc, or the Mackie srm V-Class. But my friend that I need these Yamaha dzr 10’s. So now I’m searching for more info about them and reviews. Thank you for this video.
Yeah, I run the DJ through these between sets, and I can totally see why DJs would love them! They're super compact and loud, and like your friend said, the clarity at high volumes is just mad, too! I would definitely grab these over the Mackies or QSC (although I love their desks, I find the speakers hard on the ears). The RCF NX speakers look great, but I haven't managed to hear any yet!
I’m really looking forward to upgrade to these! The price point is pretty up there, but I need to make the move. Also, the reason I’m looking into the 10” is due to my vehicle size, I have a 2020 Kia Soul which is limited in space so these will fit perfectly in my car, and I was thinking on getting two QSC 12” subwoofers. I know it’s two different brands but I’m not familiar with the Yamaha subwoofers, plus I like how the design of the QSC 12” sub is narrow. Do you have a suggestion that I may not know of?
@DJBennyswift you wont be disappointed! These are great! The Yamaha subs are awesome but they are quite heavy! I use the RCF 705 which are super light and quite compact! I've fit 2 subs and 2 tops in a Nissan Juke! Was a bit of a squeeze but they went in!
@@GaryOnBass that sounds great, I also have my other gear and facade which playing Tetris as a kid helped me fit my 15” mains, 15” sub, stands, controller, cable bags in the car with a tight squeeze. I’m going to look into that Rcf subwoofer to get dimensions, watts, SPL, and price point.
Haha I know the feeling, although my van now feels empty with these sitting in the back! I can fully recommend the RCF subs too! Thanks for watching!
how would you rate the DZR10 vs. Seeburg Acoustic or KS Audio 10" active speakers, if you've had the pleasure of using/hearing any of their comparable offerings? in other words, is their sound quality worth the extra cost?
Unfortunately, I haven't heard about the Seeburg or KS 10" boxes or anything they do as an active unit, so I can't add anything here!
The Yamaha speakers are great, though. They were designed by Nexo (a comparable pro company) and come with an outstanding Yamaha warranty-that's what tipped me into buying them!
You think DZR12 (no sub) can replace/pass for a Hi-Fi 12” system for home-use? Clarity and detail wise.
Wondering if they could be a nice, cheaper alternative to expensive HiFi speakers like JBL L100, Klipsch Forte/Cornwall, etc.
Any hiss, noise, hum while turned On at idle w/ no music playing?
Edit:
Ah, I see you have studio monitors in the back!
I use HS8 for music-listening (but wanna upgrade to 12” speakers)… wondering if the DZR are as clear, clean, flat, accurate, neutral sounding as your studio monitors.
There is a massive amount of clarity in these speakers and I haven't noticed any hiss or hum, even at very high volumes. If I were to use a PA speaker for hi-fi I think this would be my pick, they are probably the most neutral spunding PA speaker out there! But they are really difficult to compare to my Adam audio monitors in the back, which actually make great hi-fi speakers!
The reason for this is that they are built to be VERY loud! Your talking about 10x the output of some of those hi-fi speakers you mentioned! I'm not sure how they would sound at lower volumes as you will never be pushing the speakers to the point where they are designed to be used.
So overall, I'm not sure! They would probably be my pick if I were to do that, but I'm not sure how comparable they would be to a speaker which is specifically made for that purpose! I'm sure they would sound great though and you would never have issues about not having enough volume! Haha
@@GaryOnBass
Thanks for the detailed reply!
Nice to hear they don't have any hiss/hum/noise! I may have to give them a try, hehe (I could never afford super expensive HiFi speakers nor amps anyways)
And volume/power never hurts... esp when it's needed for parties, haha. Just as long as the sound quality is clear, neutral and nice. :D
@LessTalkMoreDelicious they would definitely be great for parties! I think they could definitely work! They also do a passive version, the CZR12 but I would most likely get the active ones!
Keep me updated on how they do! I would be really interested to hear your experience!
I have 2 DZR12s, there is a soft background hiss when in a quiet room. These things are designed to be high DB output boxes so I imagine the output stage is pretty hot. But I have no complaints using them in a quiet dinner setting for background music and lounge music.
I have a pair of Adam T8V lus the Adam 10 inch sub (T10) in the livingroom and I am very happy with them. At the basement I have a LD Systems Curv 500 with two more satelites (2 + 2 satelites and the sub) for movies and music. Superb sound. Upstairs I have two EV ZLX 12P BT plus an Alto TS 12S sub for movies and music and I take them to parties from time to time. They sit in a large livingroom, arround 60 m². Very, very happy with the sound but they have a buzzing sound when not in use. I'm looking to upgrade the EV ZLX to probably these or EV ETX 10P
10 inch box for foh?! what are you mixing? a micky mouse band?!
Haha, I worried about the same thing! We are a three to six-piece wedding band that runs everything directly through the PA, and we do 90 weddings a year, ranging from 100 to 300 people. These really have been great! I have only seen the limiter twice, and we play with one of the loudest drummers I know! You're not running festivals with these playing to thousands, but I would be hiring a crew and a PA I wouldn't want to carry myself for that! If you're a gigging musician, they will do the job and surprise you! I ran EV 15" tops and 18" subs before these, which can't touch this rig in terms of volume or sound quality!
@@GaryOnBass sounds nice, have you looked into the seeburg k20 dp? double 10 inch in a small form factor. they sound superb. i use the passive version.
Yeah, the Seaburg stuff has always been great! One of my friends had a big passive set, which I loved, but I couldn't handle the weight now! I like the look of their array systems, but they are rare to hear in the UK! These Yamahas are designed by NEXO, and you can see the pro audio background coming into play!
You might be surprised at just how loud and also how clear these things are when HPF over a sub. I also use Yamaha DSR115, RCF 932 and RCF NX945 and my DZR 10's can keep up with any of them if they are used over a decent sub!
@pooleywooley I couldn't agree more!