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The 4070 Super is one of my favourite GPUs this gen, but I'd be doing you a disservice if I recommend it over the 3090. Sure, ot has DLSS FG, but that 24GB VRAM is going to go a long way. There arent many games yet that support FSR 3.1 FG, but in the games that do it's quite good when used with DLSS.

They are very similar in input latency. Nvidia has Reflex to help with that, and AMD has Anti-Lag.

Hmm, a 10400F will for sure hold back a 4070. At 1080p quite a bit, and less so at 1440p. I have a 10500F here and even a 3070 is not running at 99% GPU usage at 1440p in many games. There are games where it wont be a bottleneck, like Black Myth Wukong, Quake RTX, and some others, but a lot of newer games are quite CPU heavy.

Does it only do it in this game? Back when I played this game it was quite buggy, and ray tracing was completely broken. Do you have ray tracing enabled, or not?

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Thanks for watching, appreciate it. The game is extremely CPU heavy, and the differences would most probably come down to CPU. The 10900K is still a decent chip, but in this game the 14700K is quite significantly faster. I think it was PCGH that did a bunch of CPU benchmarks so you can maybe check their site out to see results of the 10900K and see if you are at least close to what they are getting.

How does the game run for you? Similar to here, or better?

And it struck me as odd as they do have good relationships with AMD too as they use their hardware in their consoles. Sure, different teams and all that, but to have nothing for AMD is a slap in the face.

Yeah, 16GB RAM is going to be rough I reckon 🤣

Ram is currently pretty affordable. Makes a radical difference. Maybe try to sell your old sticks and buy basic 6000MHz sticks?

Appreciate it 🙏

It's so funny, I never even knew this option existed, so I made a video about input latency and people pointed me to this option. It really works great, especially when using frame generation.

@@Mostly_Positive_Reviews yes it does, Ive been struggling the past 4 days, Ive done so much, Ive cleaned my pc, change thermal paste, refilled my liquid cool, cleaned all the fans too, I updated my bios, reinstalled my drivers, uninstalled a bunch of stuffs, tried alot of tweaks, worked on my overclock, I tried with/without overclocks, and god knows how much research I did. I had my cpu running at 100% and thought it was the issue, and turning FG off would give me lower and unstable FPS so I quite didnt want to use that option unless I managed to get the needed fps. I managed to hit about 130 avg but that wasnt enough I have a 165hz monitor darnit! loll your video is the one that brought the attention on this rivatuner setting, Ive been using rivatuner for years and I didnt know it would be the reason for this! I even thought it might be the effect of aging before I turned FG off and realize WOWW Im a gamer again! LOL thank you very much!

Yeah, low settings look absolutely horrible here.

When not recording I use g-sync, but when recording I dont as it messes with the recording quality. But currently playing it with g-sync enabled and the stutters are still pretty bad unfortunately.

I did turn off RT Shadows @15:12 and saw no performance improvement unfortunately. I was getting 78 fps just before that, and 78 fps when disabling RT shadows as well.

Hey bud, all good thanks and you? I'd be surprised if you got 10 fps lower than here. My RAM is only marginally slower, and the 14700K is also really not that big of a boost over the 13700K, and we are mostly GPU bound in this scenario anyway, so I reckon you'd get very similar performance.

@@Mostly_Positive_Reviews im good thanks mate,is there an option to disable hardware solution rt?I thing thats causing this horrible cpu performance.

Optimized settings have never been the focus of this channel. I have always tested presets from Highest to Lowest in all my videos. It is only to give people an idea of what the performance is like, and I often say that personalized or optimized settings are the way to go.

@@Mostly_Positive_Reviews ok.

So my personal feeling is that upscaling in UE5 games are fine. So far we have seen very, very few UE5 games that run well at native resolution, so I have now just accepted the fact that upscaling is always going to be needed for UE5 games. But frame generation should never be used to get a game to acceptable framerates. Ever.

@@Mostly_Positive_Reviews The FPS generation is the thing that annoys me the most... Without hegeneration one should get the same fps as without it with only DLSS

I'm never one to make any excuses for bad optimization or poor running games, but I do think the Stalker Devs should maybe be given a chance to redeem themselves. They had to move offices in the middle of development due to the ongoing war in Ukraine, and apart from that I am sure the war did affect them on a psychological level as well. So I'm sure they will improve performance quite a bit. Give it a few months and I'm confident the game will run much better.

@@Mostly_Positive_Reviews for sure, I think they deserve the money I've paid for the game, am sure it will improve in time.

Yeah, after the video I flew around in a slower plane and there are quite a few annoying things, like the boxes under the bridges, and I have found more flickering lighting issues when you get closer to bigger buildings etc. The flickering light / shadows really bother me, if it wasnt obvious already ;)

Yep, I'd say give it a few months and it should be okay.

This is the way. Buying games at release is dead.

I wanted to include a comparison in my video, but MSFS2020 takes almost a full day to install haha! 2024 definitely runs a lot worse than 2020, but I also think 2024 has a lot more detail, especially scenery.

The framerates I think are okay, especially on the High preset, but the stuttering and the lows are quite bad.

Yeah, I think anything other than the Epic preset is actually not bad. It is an open-world UE5 game with Lumen, so performance was always going to be on the heavy side. Epic preset is very heavy, but that is pretty much the norm with UE5 games.

Yeah, it definitely needs a lot of work. I am hopeful though because MSFS2020 actually did receive a nice patch about a year after release that improved performance quite a bit. And I think if they can sort out their server issues data streaming should be much better, meaning better performance. That's my hope anyway haha! Whether it will come to pass is another story altogether.

Yeah, when I read that and saw the performance I was quite surprised. But hopefully it wont be much heavier than it is now. If we have a look at Silent Hill 2 with and without hardware RT, the performance hit isnt as huge as in other games, so I'm thinking the similar might apply here. It is already using software ray tracing, so hopefully it wont bring the performance down into single figures!

Yeah, I expected worse based on the reviews.

I am whipping out the 3070 now to give it a shot!

If you're getting 80 frames after frame gen then that means your base fps is sub 60, possibly 40 fps. "Mild" input latency is not believable.

@skinscalp222 80 in town, its 110+ most the times outside where combat happens. It feels fine tbh, much better than remnant 2 Edit: also im on 1080p, medium everything except for textures I have on high.

Frame generation doesn't work for 3000 cards or did something change?

@CMasta121 FSR frame gen works for all cards, think of Nvidias frame gen like apple phone charging cords

Apparently they have a few hundred terabytes of data that they use for assets etc. That's what I read in a blogpost anyway. Hence the move to a streaming model. But the fact that you cant play it offline with reduced asset quality at all is just a bad decision.

Ru serious?

​@@aatifrehman4150 obviously dude didn't play the game. "Minor inconvenience?? Refund!'

@@Nizzle89 It runs like shit on most hardware. Barely getting 100fps with a 4080 with DLSS is laughable. Terriblle frametime consistency and 1% lows. So many games to play, no reason to put up with stuttery bs. Do you think everyones rockin 4070 supers or better with 9800x3ds or somethin?

@@muffin0608 I agree, if a game is not performing to your liking then give it back. I think the people saying "this is fine" are hardcore Stalker fans and are used to Stalker games running like crap. And after having a chat with a few of them I understand where they are coming from. It's almost as if poor performance is part of the package as it has been for so long. But I am one of those people that will refund a game if it runs horribly, whether I am a fan or not. If we always just accept broken games at launch we will never see devs or publishers improve on this.

​@@muffin0608 totally agree with your comment. Im saving my money for Monster Hunter Wilds despite the beta pc performance because the beta was using a much older and unstable build and the beta was just for network testing, so full release performance will most likely be much better than beta

Thanks, I confirmed after the video that it does use Lumen. There are actually a few UE5 games that dont use Lumen so I wanted to confirm before saying it definitely has.

I havent run into the FPS dropping issue when talking to NPCs. I'll give it a shot again and see. Was there a specific spot where it happened for you?

@@Mostly_Positive_Reviews I think it's more cut scenes talking to NPCs actually, had it when you first get attacked and need to find a way out using a bolt in the anomaly. it went really slow in fps when spoke to that guy who gives you the bolt, and then I just quit the game and re did it & was fine😆It might just randomly do it but it was twice talking ppl in cut scenes i'm sure of it. Maybe it's got different issues with different CPUs

I haven't been using Frame Gen so not sure if FG helps with the FPS dropping

@@RJTHEGAME Ugh, that is annoying though

@@RJTHEGAME I believe FG gets disabled during cutscenes anyway. It seems that way for me anyway.

Not even RTX5090 will help if the game stutters and has uneven frame time.

@@PabloB888 💯stalker is UE5.1 - SHADER COMPILATION on-demand for developers is source mistake. It is written: - This system is still under development and its performance will improve in future engine releases. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 UE 5.4 is 100% faster multithreading optimised lumen on the CPU and 20% faster on the GPU and shaders pre compiled - no stuttering. UE5.5 has DENOISER for low graphic (seen in Matrix demo 5.4 & Robo cop on low graphic) I have seen FPS fluctuations 50-90 in 1 STALKER benchmark 🤣

Agreed. Let us play offline at least, even if it means lower asset and scenery quality. Having to rely on streaming for everything is not it.

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I thought the FPS was pretty good for me considering it's UE5 but the FPS falls off a cliff at moments in the game to like 7-10fps, some memory leak

Yeah, Epic preset is extremely heavy for sure, but I think custom settings, or the High preset is reasonable. I am going to try it with the 3070 now and see how it does with 8GB of VRAM. Apparently it's unplayable, but you also know how much the media tries to go out of their way with hyperbole.

@@Mostly_Positive_Reviews Yeah wouldn't surprise me because 8GB, I used to have the 3070, liked the card but the vram of 8GB was becoming a issue for me in The Last of us Part 1 and Forspoken, was forced to lower settings at 1440p

My feeling is there are just really unoptimized parts in Stalker 2 that need to be fixed, I felt it ran pretty well on the EPIC until these silly slowdowns for me, I know fps drops in cut scenes but it felt really silly to go as low as 7 fps lol

I don't even like it when games drop cut scenes to 30fps either because that can cause some slowdown

Appreciate the reply. Last I used VR I had a 3080 and frame generation wasnt an option for me so I wasnt sure whether it was available or not.

Dropping down to low 40s fps with the second best CPU around is... bad. I wonder what people who tell other people "You can't complain about bad performance if you're still using your old hardware from a generation ago!" are going to say about this one. Your second best CPU is too old and unless you use supercomputer you can't complain about bad performance?

@@skinscalp222 Yeah, a 7800X3D not being able to maintain 60 fps is horrible. That argument holds up when people use 3770K with 4090's, but the 14700K is Intel's best gaming CPU currently (sure, the 14900K exists, but the differences in gaming arent that big) and it's struggling. A friend of mine tested the 9800X3D and in this settlement it still drops below 60 fps due to the CPU.

You might be right. I think Ultra on 2020 does look better than Medium here. High-End looks quite good though, and that's probably where I'll be playing for now.

2020 didn't get so much better.. just a little..... Don't expect 2024 to be neither